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May 06 06:21:30 <Abhishek_> Morning
May 06 12:52:37 <av500> vvu|Log: ping
May 06 12:52:47 <vvu|Log> av500: pong
May 06 12:52:57 <av500> vvu|Log: hos do I get my n7 back to stock kernel?
May 06 12:52:59 <av500> how
May 06 12:53:23 <vvu|Log> only kernel not full reflash right ?
May 06 12:53:52 <vvu|Log> you need to download the n7 image from google site and then with fastboot you can flash just the kernel
May 06 12:53:53 <av500> yes
May 06 12:53:59 <av500> I found something
May 06 12:54:01 <av500> let me see
May 06 12:54:05 <vvu|Log> oki
May 06 12:54:11 <vvu|Log> still have my hacky kernel there ?
May 06 12:54:21 <av500> yes :)
May 06 12:54:37 <vvu|Log> oh well i can see how often you hack on the tablet :)
May 06 12:55:03 <Abhishek_> vvu|Log: for kernel, wouldn't replacing the zImage file or similar do the trick?
May 06 12:55:29 <vvu|Log> mainly think so but still fastbook is the sane way to do it
May 06 12:55:56 <av500> vvu|Log: I need it to test stuff, so I need it stock
May 06 12:56:23 <vvu|Log> okok
May 06 12:57:32 <Abhishek_> vvu|Log: when did you upload your video presentation last year?
May 06 12:57:49 <vvu|Log> kinda late :) like after 1.5 months think so
May 06 12:58:50 <Abhishek_> I have begun work on my presentation but it is still to completed, once I get this cross-compile and deploy script right
May 06 12:59:34 <Abhishek_> lots of host, build, prefixes, vars and stuff
May 06 13:03:37 <vvu|Log> no worries, maybe upload a draft somewhere so people can check on it
May 06 13:03:42 <vvu|Log> av500: works ?
May 06 13:03:57 <av500> sec
May 06 13:04:13 <Abhishek_> okay, will show the draft in tomorrow's meeting
May 06 13:04:51 <Abhishek_> karki: How was today's paper?
May 06 13:41:05 <karki> Abhishek_ : Exam not  so great; but on the bright side I'm now running debian on BBB!
May 06 13:41:43 <Abhishek_> so, repaired the SD slot?
May 06 13:44:37 <karki> Apparently my BBB heals over time ;)
May 06 13:44:52 <av500> time is a healer
May 06 13:45:18 <karki> :P
May 06 13:45:33 <Abhishek_> time is the *best* healer
May 06 13:45:46 <av500> time and aspirin
May 06 13:49:25 <karki> panto_ : I was wondering how to split up the various components of the project. what should I start off with?
May 06 13:57:45 <DiegoTc> hi jkridner & VoltVisionSteve, this is just a small layout design with the 2 connector: http://jsfiddle.net/DiegoTc/V9LrV/1/
May 06 13:57:47 <karki> panto_ : just want to chalk the plan out (my initial plan didn't have any time for the device driver! )
May 06 14:07:56 <jkridner> hi DiegoTc
May 06 14:08:10 <jkridner> They stick out too far.
May 06 14:08:24 <jkridner> they don't look like they are in the right places..
May 06 14:09:06 <jkridner> also, is it possible to eliminate the left-side border where these intersect to make it *just* an outline?
May 06 14:09:21 <jkridner> thanks for the before/after hint... I was trying to figure that out.
May 06 14:09:46 <Abhishek_> morning jkridner
May 06 14:11:02 <jkridner> hi Abhishek_
May 06 14:23:34 <jkridner> DiegoTc: I still need to get the right locations, but I think this is closer: http://jsfiddle.net/jkridner/K39xR/
May 06 14:25:39 <DiegoTc> jkridner: thatt one with the lines white color?
May 06 14:26:10 * DiegoTc thinks jkridner likes to play with in in CSS :p
May 06 14:26:16 <DiegoTc> inches
May 06 14:28:09 <jkridner> if you want to convert them, directly use the 96px = 1in conversion. I like making the proportions look right compared to the board!
May 06 14:34:57 <DiegoTc> jkridner: you want something like this : http://screencast.com/t/lrvZzSHVFchF please ignore the square and the not good lines
May 06 14:35:05 <DiegoTc> but with that effect
May 06 14:35:19 <jkridner> ignoring the dimensions, yes
May 06 14:35:41 <DiegoTc> Ok
May 06 14:35:47 <jkridner> http://jsfiddle.net/jkridner/K39xR has close to the right dimensions....
May 06 14:35:53 <jkridner> needs to be checked against the design.
May 06 14:36:08 <jkridner> but, it should only be the outline, ideally.
May 06 14:36:21 * jkridner is looking at the zoom right now.
May 06 14:36:51 <jkridner> http://jsfiddle.net/jkridner/ESp7T/ has the zoom.
May 06 14:36:58 <jkridner> but not the left side
May 06 14:37:33 <DiegoTc> jkridner: you want the Zoom effect that way? No as the lightbox but with that design?
May 06 14:37:40 <jkridner> http://jsfiddle.net/jkridner/K39xR/7/ has zoom, but doesn't move the stuff on the left side.
May 06 14:37:58 * jkridner doesn't know what a "lightbox" really is.
May 06 14:38:44 <jkridner> I would think you'd probably take over the page for the zoomed view.
May 06 14:38:52 <DiegoTc> jkridner: like this one, the first card
May 06 14:38:56 <jkridner> not just have it be modal.
May 06 14:39:08 * jkridner read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightbox_(JavaScript)
May 06 14:40:14 <DiegoTc> jkridner: so the idea changes here a little
May 06 14:40:21 <DiegoTc> still want the next and back
May 06 14:40:34 <DiegoTc> so user can see all the cards?
May 06 14:40:36 <jkridner> absolutely want next and previous.
May 06 14:40:41 <jkridner> and "show all"
May 06 14:41:08 <DiegoTc> light the one I have with modal: http://diegotc.github.io/bone101/Support/GSOC/tempboot3cards.html
May 06 14:43:07 <DiegoTc> jkridner: where do you want the arrows?
May 06 14:43:35 <DiegoTc> I'm guessing that bellow
May 06 15:08:10 <av500> vvu|Log: no dice to upgrade to 4.4
May 06 15:08:16 <av500> upgrade process aborts
May 06 15:10:44 <DiegoTc> av500: do you speak spanish?
May 06 15:11:46 <av500> no habla espanol
May 06 15:27:51 <jkridner> DiegoTc: My preference is that we figure out a layout that allows the cards to have a fixed size such that they are easy to embed in other people's pages.
May 06 15:28:32 <jkridner> that may mean arrows below or inside at the bottom, but I'd want to keep the card layout fairly rectangular and easy to figure out the size...
May 06 15:28:51 <jkridner> for the "show all", this also works nicer since they can be one below the other.
May 06 15:29:09 <jkridner> you also need to think about how it is going to look in a print view.
May 06 15:29:44 <DiegoTc> I definetly like this challenge :)
May 06 15:29:53 <DiegoTc> I will work on that today and tomorrow
May 06 15:35:07 * Abhishek_ has cross-compilation blues now...
May 06 16:08:49 <jkridner> DiegoTc: I have a new proto of the two sizes, but I am really disliking the lines: http://jsfiddle.net/jkridner/K39xR/
May 06 16:10:11 <jkridner> DiegoTc: this is an ugly hack to remove the lines: http://jsfiddle.net/jkridner/K39xR/12/
May 06 16:21:37 <DiegoTc> haha
May 06 16:21:55 <DiegoTc> jkridner: I was plannig to do that     border-right: 3px solid white; :p
May 06 16:22:22 <jkridner> just saw that width of 6px and border-right of 2px looks better.
May 06 16:23:07 <DiegoTc> have ths jsfiddle?
May 06 16:23:28 <Abhishek_> how would it be with if the background is non-white?
May 06 16:23:51 * jkridner thinks http://jsfiddle.net/jkridner/K39xR/embedded/result/ looks nice
May 06 16:24:04 <jkridner> Abhishek_: I applied a white background for the cards.
May 06 16:24:27 <jkridner> you can click the cards to see a "zoomed" size.
May 06 16:25:30 <Abhishek_> I meant to ask, how would the problem be addressed if the background was non-white?
May 06 16:25:43 <Abhishek_> or maybe an image?
May 06 16:26:57 <DiegoTc> Abhishek_: the background of the cards will be always white
May 06 16:27:33 <DiegoTc> jkridner: can we have more than one card Zoom  In?
May 06 16:27:56 <Abhishek_> okay, I used transparent instead of white, with the same effect
May 06 16:29:06 <jkridner> DiegoTc: sure
May 06 16:29:23 <jkridner> I wasn't trying to go for functionality, just appearance.
May 06 16:29:47 <DiegoTc> jkridner: meaning for the project
May 06 16:29:52 <karki> panto : I was wondering how to split up the various components of the project. what should I start off with? just want to chalk the plan out (my initial plan didn't have any time for the device driver! )
May 06 16:29:52 <DiegoTc> not your example
May 06 16:30:12 <DiegoTc> do you want that?
May 06 16:30:17 <panto> karki, start with what you're most familiar first
May 06 16:30:28 <panto> emulate the stuff that's not ready yet
May 06 16:30:31 <panto> test early
May 06 16:30:33 <panto> test often
May 06 16:31:30 <karki> panto : emulate in what sense
May 06 16:31:50 <karki> panto : I will need some sort of a driver first, right?
May 06 16:32:04 <panto> yes
May 06 16:32:14 <panto> start by emulating the driver calls in user-space
May 06 16:32:23 <panto> then write a kernel driver that does the emulation
May 06 16:32:31 <panto> then link it to the PRU code
May 06 16:35:56 <VoltVisionSteve> DiegoTc, jkridner : I am here watching your progress.  Great work!
May 06 16:36:29 <DiegoTc> VoltVisionSteve: do you think it will be good to Zoom different cards or just one?
May 06 16:36:50 <karki> panto : by emulating driver calls in user-space, do you mean develop a solid interface (or are they also supposed to do something functional? )
May 06 16:37:24 <panto> just get the API down right first
May 06 16:37:33 <panto> well, scratch that
May 06 16:37:41 <panto> get a first version that sort-a looks good
May 06 16:37:43 <VoltVisionSteve> DiegoTc, honestly I am still not clear on the zoom thing.  Is this for the main page or just only inside the tutorial?
May 06 16:38:07 <VoltVisionSteve> *main index page*
May 06 16:39:05 <VoltVisionSteve> when would someone zoom?
May 06 16:39:27 <VoltVisionSteve> ..in the middle of a tutorial or before they start the tutorial?
May 06 16:39:53 <DiegoTc> main page. Instead of the lightbox
May 06 16:40:00 <DiegoTc> right now I have this way: diegotc.github.io/bone101/Support/GSOC/tempboot3cards.html
May 06 16:41:20 <VoltVisionSteve> So, on your "main page" you have the master list of ALL tutorials...which right now is 6 tutorials.  You are saying that when they pick a tutorial and click on it that it will zoom INSTEAD of taking you inside the tutorial?
May 06 16:42:18 <DiegoTc> Yes and No
May 06 16:42:28 <DiegoTc> its going to Zoom
May 06 16:42:35 <VoltVisionSteve> ...or does it "Zoom to that tutorial" and the rest of the tutorials disappear?
May 06 16:43:08 <DiegoTc>  its going to have the next and back option and the View All option.
May 06 16:43:16 <DiegoTc> exactly
May 06 16:45:47 <VoltVisionSteve> ...ok... so you look at the master tutorial list...there could be 50 of them....then you click on one to "zoom into it"... at that point all of the other tutorials disappear and you are now "inside of" the tutorial with the appropriate navigation buttons?
May 06 16:46:26 <DiegoTc> yes
May 06 16:46:32 <VoltVisionSteve> What if you want to "go back" to the master list?
May 06 16:46:39 <DiegoTc> Esc
May 06 16:46:52 <DiegoTc> like this one: http://diegotc.github.io/bone101/Support/GSOC/tempboot3cards.html
May 06 16:48:23 <VoltVisionSteve> DiegoTc, 1) Should you tell people about the "Esc"? 2) The "Esc" worked for me until I hit the "All" button, then "ESC" didnt work anymore.
May 06 16:49:22 <DiegoTc> VoltVisionSteve: Esc or a home icon
May 06 16:49:54 <VoltVisionSteve> "Esc" worked until I hit "view all", then I had to use the "backspace" button
May 06 16:51:06 <DiegoTc> That template is going to change. I will work on it. But the concept what do you think?
May 06 16:52:23 <VoltVisionSteve> I love it!  I look forward to testing it.  We need to make it user friendly and intuitive,
May 06 16:52:25 <jkridner> DiegoTc, VoltVisionSteve: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard-gsoc/fJkEEVKtMFI
May 06 16:52:26 <VoltVisionSteve> .
May 06 16:53:13 * jkridner doesn't really like the left-hand navigation of the "view all"
May 06 16:53:41 <DiegoTc> jkridner: could you change the link for this one http://diegotc.github.io/bone101/Support/GSOC/tempboot3cards.html
May 06 16:53:46 <DiegoTc> the first one is ugle :(
May 06 16:53:48 <DiegoTc> ugly
May 06 16:54:01 <jkridner> you can say that in a reply.
May 06 16:55:06 <karki> panto : one more thing - would you want me to finish each component before going for the next one or would you want me to iterate through the whole process (i.e. develop a beta version of the API followed by a basic kernel driver then linking it to PRU code. then repeat the process adding a few more features - so at evry step I will have a some what working project)
May 06 16:55:38 <VoltVisionSteve> jkridne
May 06 16:55:57 <VoltVisionSteve> jkridner, DiegoTc : I am late for my PyBBIO meeting.  Talk later.!  Thx!
May 06 16:58:14 <panto> iterate
May 06 16:58:32 <panto> you're not going to get it right first time
May 06 16:58:35 <panto> no-one does
May 06 17:00:50 <karki> panto : Sure! Thanks, I have to leave. Exams going on :( I'll start working as soon as I get some free time!
May 06 17:01:23 <Abhishek_> jkridner: Is the agenda of tomorrow's meeting the same?
May 06 17:01:54 <jkridner> pretty much, until we get up to coding day. Just want to know you are interacting with your mentors and getting hardware.
May 06 17:02:15 <Abhishek_> 'kay
May 06 17:06:49 <DiegoTc> jkridner: I don't know jongseuk
May 06 17:07:19 <jkridner> DiegoTc: yeah, hopefully we'll re-engage him, but we might just drop him at this point if he doesn't get involved...
May 06 17:07:36 <jkridner> at least Steve and I are involved and hopefully we'll get Dave more engaged too.
May 06 17:08:20 <Abhishek_> jkridner: I look forward to interacting with Charles Steinkuehlet as well
May 06 17:08:29 <Abhishek_> *Steinkuehler
May 06 17:08:44 <jkridner> Abhishek_: can you bug him by e-mail?
May 06 17:09:49 <Abhishek_> okay.
May 06 17:11:06 <jkridner> Abhishek_: have you seen http://eskimon.fr/beaglebone-black-gpio-interactive-map ?
May 06 17:11:29 <jkridner> I know you have the nifty timing diagram tool, but I thought that thing was interesting too.
May 06 17:13:11 <DiegoTc> jkridner: Dave talks with me
May 06 17:13:21 <DiegoTc> he has quite being offering help
May 06 17:13:26 <DiegoTc> more in g+
May 06 17:13:30 <DiegoTc> that in IRC
May 06 17:17:30 <Abhishek_> jkridner: The tool is nice, but it would need more polishing. I am facing issues running this on Firefox 29
May 06 17:17:37 <jkridner> k
May 06 17:30:57 <Abhishek_> But then I liked the idea of hovering over a pin and getting the details of the pin. We could use it as a pin selector in the frontend
May 06 19:05:41 <Abhishek_> jkridner: Just got a reply from Charles, said he should make it to tomorrow's meeting for ~30min.
May 06 19:05:49 <jkridner> cool!
May 06 19:08:48 <Abhishek_> panto: what would be the result of AND R3, R1, R1 ? R3 = R1 or R3 = LSByte of R1
May 06 19:09:07 <Abhishek_> [PRU assembly instruction]
May 06 19:09:23 <ds2> R3 = R1
May 06 19:10:01 <Abhishek_> the PRU mentions it as OP(255), I had a confusion
May 06 19:11:10 <ds2> Rn by itself is 32bit per my understanding
May 06 19:11:19 <ds2> Rn.bM is a byte
May 06 19:11:28 <ds2> Rb.wM is a word (16bit)
May 06 19:11:34 <ds2> Rb.tM is a bit
May 06 19:12:42 <Abhishek_> the PRU ref for AND says: AND REG1, REG2, OP(255)
May 06 19:13:55 * ds2 looks
May 06 19:16:36 <ds2> look at teh definition of OP(255)
May 06 19:16:42 <ds2> search for OP(255)
May 06 19:16:52 <ds2> it can be an immediate or a register
May 06 19:16:59 <ds2> lunch beckons...bbl
May 06 19:17:11 <Abhishek_> k, sleep time for me too
May 06 19:30:02 <Abhishek_> 'night
May 06 19:51:34 <DiegoTc> jkridner, VoltVisionFrench: http://jsfiddle.net/DiegoTc/KVWFj/6/embedded/result/
May 06 19:52:29 <DiegoTc> please ignore the zoom right now
May 06 20:45:37 <panto> Abhishek_, it's an and instructions
May 06 20:45:46 <panto> look at the PRU instruction ref
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