**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 07 02:59:58 2014
May 07 03:57:12 <jkridner> DiegoTc: yes, I saw it.
May 07 03:57:21 <jkridner> DiegoTc: I prefer to be bugged here than on chat.
May 07 03:58:09 <DiegoTc> jkridner: sorry forgot I was here
May 07 03:58:21 <jkridner> I lost the last chats.
May 07 03:59:01 <DiegoTc> jkridner: that way displaying the cards is fine?
May 07 03:59:16 <DiegoTc> I will begin with the Zoom, I want to have each card to Zoom and display in the center. Is that good for you
May 07 03:59:22 <DiegoTc> or you want it how it is right now?
May 07 04:00:32 <jkridner> DiegoTc: yes, that's my expectation, much like your existing lightbox example.
May 07 04:01:15 <jkridner> you asked me two questions that are the opposite of each other, making my response ambiguous.
May 07 04:01:25 <jkridner> I was answering the first question.
May 07 04:01:49 <jkridner> "I want to have each card to Zoom and display in the center. Is that good for you[?]" ... yes
May 07 04:02:38 <DiegoTc> ahh sorry. I did bad the translation. I mean that having the cards display together is fine
May 07 04:02:46 <DiegoTc> I wasn't talking about the Zoom
May 07 04:06:05 <jkridner> display together when? when they are small?
May 07 04:06:29 <DiegoTc> yes, if the space between cards look fine
May 07 04:06:33 <jkridner> I like your layout of multiple "decks" (unzoomed cards representing a series of cards each)
May 07 04:06:59 <jkridner> DiegoTc: I guess so. I think they could be a bit closer to each other.
May 07 04:07:24 <jkridner> I believe all of the content will be inside the cards/decks, so so much space isn't necessarily needed.
May 07 04:09:00 <jkridner> DiegoTc: personally, I feel http://jsfiddle.net/jkridner/UWtMb/embedded/result/ is enough space
May 07 04:09:08 <jkridner> Do you feel the greater space is needed?
May 07 04:15:34 <DiegoTc> jkrinder for me is fine, but I remember Steve talking about spaces.I think we should wait for his feedback tomorrow
May 07 04:16:36 <karki> is there  BBB port for the RIOT OS?
May 07 04:19:25 <jkridner> got disconnected
May 07 04:19:33 <jkridner> DiegoTc: k.
May 07 04:19:43 <Abhishek_> jkridner: Do you know someone I could consult, someone into HTML5 & UX Design, or someone who has built real-time data processing (large amounts of data) apps in HTML5/JS who could be able to give me some feedback wrt the web frontend for BeagleLogic?
May 07 04:20:53 <jkridner> Abhishek_: I met some people at Fluent that were doing a bit of data streaming on pages, but I'm not sure at your requirements. I need to go through my cards to try to find them.
May 07 04:23:46 <Abhishek_> ok, do let me know when it is convenient to you.
May 07 05:16:00 <Abhishek_> jkridner: just got to the web page of Fluent, reading if there is something interesting for me there.
May 07 05:22:52 <jkridner> Abhishek_: Does this guy look like he has some of the right skills to help? https://github.com/unsignedzero
May 07 05:35:57 <Abhishek_> jkridner: I'm not sure.
May 07 07:53:58 <vvu|Log> av500: did the flashing worked? i went offline yesterday
May 07 08:51:22 <av500> vvu|Log: no
May 07 08:51:38 <av500> even with the stock kernel it refused the 4.4 update
May 07 08:51:41 <av500> I wiped it
May 07 09:37:09 <vvu|Log> but is there 4.4 for old n7 ?
May 07 09:38:38 <av500> "about" says so
May 07 09:38:42 <av500> the cutoff was the GN
May 07 09:44:55 <vvu|Log> my chromebook arrived...really enjoying this small thingie.
May 07 09:45:16 <Abhishek_> cool, what's the screen size and resolution?
May 07 09:45:18 <vvu|Log> it forced me to switch to everything console-wise apps...just chromium as browser :)
May 07 09:45:24 <vvu|Log> 11" samsung one
May 07 09:45:46 <vvu|Log> i should have waited for the next gen to be out but needed a laptop for finals period
May 07 09:46:30 <vvu|Log> for what coding i'm doing on my local machine this is way too good.
May 07 13:36:13 <Abhishek_> morning
May 07 13:36:19 <vmayoral> hi!|
May 07 13:38:52 <Abhishek_> mranostay: Have a few queries regarding the server to be built over libsigrok (and the corresponding PRU Bindings). I hope you will be there for some time after the meeting.
May 07 14:36:20 * Abhishek_ is overwhelmed by the variety of JSes, angular.js, express.js, backbone.js, ***.js, .....
May 07 14:37:20 <vvu|Log> Abhishek_: how about lib*, there is a lib for everything
May 07 14:39:54 * karki agrees with Abhishek_
May 07 14:40:10 * karki and vvu|Log
May 07 14:40:16 <Abhishek_> libtroll.a , libtroll.so, libtroll.so.4, libtroll.so.4.2.0, ...
May 07 14:40:45 <Abhishek_> ah yes, and libtroll.pkgconfig
May 07 14:42:38 <Abhishek_> almost 1:20 to meeting
May 07 14:43:02 * vvu|Log hopes he finishes his quiz in time to drop by the meeting
May 07 14:43:41 <Abhishek_> is it a home quiz?
May 07 14:43:56 <vvu|Log> no, i have a class from 17:15 to 18:30
May 07 14:44:07 <vvu|Log> and there should be a quiz
May 07 14:44:22 <Abhishek_> 'kay, good luck :)
May 07 14:45:22 <vvu|Log> called distributed systems course....distributed luck
May 07 14:58:46 <jkridner> about an hour out from our meeting
May 07 15:04:28 <Abhishek_> morning jkridner, recently being viewing a lot of JS Frameworks and I'm almost overwhelmed. Can you suggest where to begin?
May 07 15:11:14 <praveendath92> vvu|Log: ping
May 07 15:11:26 <praveendath92> av500: ping
May 07 15:13:52 <Abhishek_> praveendath92: vvu|Log has a quiz now, would be back by the meeting
May 07 15:14:32 <praveendath92> Abhishek_ thanks
May 07 15:14:42 <praveendath92>  I will wait then
May 07 15:14:50 <praveendath92>  How is it going ?
May 07 15:15:09 <praveendath92> You reached you intern place ?
May 07 15:15:17 <Abhishek_> yep, home ;)
May 07 15:16:02 <praveendath92> Haha. Same here but after an unexpected hectic journey.
May 07 15:21:29 <vmayoral> meeting in a few minutes, right?
May 07 15:21:45 <Abhishek_> 40 minutes
May 07 15:29:15 <vmayoral> ;)
May 07 15:45:24 <vvu|Log> back here :)
May 07 15:46:13 <Abhishek_> was it distributed good?
May 07 15:46:29 <vvu|Log> yep...RSA, DSA and some things to compute over there
May 07 15:48:35 <praveendath92> Is it about the quiz ?
May 07 15:49:20 <praveendath92> I updated the blog and wiki. vvu|Log
May 07 15:49:26 <vvu|Log> links ?
May 07 15:49:28 <praveendath92> Did you see?
May 07 15:49:47 <praveendath92> It's on beagle projects page.
May 07 15:49:56 <praveendath92> On mobile right now.
May 07 15:52:03 <jkridner> Abhishek_: I'd avoid most of the frameworks, personally.
May 07 15:52:11 <praveendath92> http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2014_Projects
May 07 15:53:30 <Abhishek_>   hmm, I too feel the same.
May 07 15:54:30 <praveendath92> vvu|Log: Can you take a look ?
May 07 15:54:54 <praveendath92> av500: Hello.
May 07 15:55:47 <Abhishek_> It's almost time.
May 07 15:57:13 <Abhishek_> Morning cdsteinkuehler, and welcome :)
May 07 15:57:19 <jkridner> hi cdsteinkuehler
May 07 15:57:47 <cdsteinkuehler> Testing...
May 07 15:57:55 <_av500_> hi praveendath92
May 07 15:58:13 <cdsteinkuehler> I have to leave in 30 minutes...
May 07 15:58:59 <jkridner> hopefully we are ALL done by then this week.
May 07 15:59:12 <jkridner> I think we have 2 weeks still before coding starts, yes?
May 07 15:59:34 <Abhishek_> yeah, 12 days to go.
May 07 16:00:04 <praveendath92> I updated a few more details on elinux page.
May 07 16:00:27 <praveendath92> Added a blog post for weekly updates.
May 07 16:00:42 <jkridner> thanks praveendath92
May 07 16:00:45 <vvu|Log> praveendath92: ok now on desktop lemme check
May 07 16:00:56 <praveendath92> Sure :)
May 07 16:01:27 <praveendath92> I had some unexpected trips last week so, couldn't complete the video yet.
May 07 16:01:35 <jkridner> seems vmayoral is still the only one to have already created an intro video. :)
May 07 16:01:54 <Abhishek_> Blog update: http://www.theembeddedkitchen.net/gsoc2014/beaglelogic-update-1-7th-may-2014/ , Draft Presentation for video: http://www.theembeddedkitchen.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/GSoC14_Presentation_Rev1.pdf , to be recorded this weekend
May 07 16:02:21 <Abhishek_> *by this weekend
May 07 16:02:27 <praveendath92> It's time catch up.
May 07 16:02:46 <vvu|Log> praveendath92: can't find the links
May 07 16:03:03 <jkridner> ok, let's call to order with a quick roll call
May 07 16:03:13 <praveendath92> Just a min.
May 07 16:03:14 <jkridner> who all is here?
May 07 16:03:21 <_av500_> I am
May 07 16:03:27 <ds2> I might be
May 07 16:03:36 * vvu|Log is here
May 07 16:03:41 <praveendath92> Wiki: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/BARD
May 07 16:03:44 * Abhishek_ thinks he's here
May 07 16:03:45 <jkridner> hi ds2. :)
May 07 16:04:05 <praveendath92> Yo !
May 07 16:04:06 <cdsteinkuehler> present
May 07 16:04:38 <alexanderhiam> ahoy
May 07 16:05:25 <jkridner> DiegoTc said he might not be able to make it, but we've been in regular contact and sync'd up before the meeting
May 07 16:05:53 <rseethamraju> present!
May 07 16:06:01 <jkridner> vmayoral was here earlier. still here?
May 07 16:06:04 <vvu|Log> praveendath92: k, look over them
May 07 16:06:11 <vvu|Log> s/look/looked
May 07 16:06:12 <jkridner> karki?
May 07 16:06:29 <vmayoral> jkridner: here i am
May 07 16:07:27 <praveendath92> vvu|Log: how does it look ? Any suggestions for edits ?
May 07 16:07:41 <jkridner> students here: vmayoral, rseethamraju, praveendath92, Abhishek_
May 07 16:07:58 <bradfa> jkridner, how many students do we have in total (not just the ones who are present)
May 07 16:07:59 <bradfa> ?
May 07 16:07:59 <jkridner> karki and DiegoTc are logged in, but idle
May 07 16:08:02 <jkridner> 7
May 07 16:08:03 <vvu|Log> praveendath92: good for now, we do not really have much to put in.
May 07 16:08:05 <DiegoTc> I will be here but more in pasive mode. Sorry about that :(
May 07 16:08:17 <praveendath92> True.
May 07 16:08:20 * jkridner tries to remember who the 7th is
May 07 16:08:28 <bradfa> joel_, are we meeting on mmc now, too, in parallel?
May 07 16:08:35 <vvu|Log> praveendath92: try for the blog to maintain separate posts for each week.
May 07 16:08:47 <Abhishek_> disdi, Saket is not here yet
May 07 16:08:56 <vvu|Log> it will be difficult to just target a specific week if you have just one post with all of em
May 07 16:09:04 <jkridner> disdi?
May 07 16:09:11 <praveendath92> I will do that.
May 07 16:09:20 <praveendath92> And update link at one place.
May 07 16:09:23 <jkridner> bradfa are you meeting without disdi?
May 07 16:09:29 <praveendath92> *Links
May 07 16:09:46 <bradfa> jkridner, we (joel_ and I) met with disdi last week on irc
May 07 16:10:03 <jkridner> I don't have much for topics today other than to again confirm that "bonding" is indeed going on with your mentors.
May 07 16:10:08 <bradfa> but no one is in our channel but myself at this point
May 07 16:10:20 <jkridner> what channel is that for the curious?
May 07 16:10:32 <praveendath92> Can you send me the link for kernel programming practices again ?
May 07 16:10:32 <bradfa> #beagle-mmc
May 07 16:10:38 <praveendath92> I lost it.
May 07 16:10:47 <DiegoTc> jkridner: still haven't been in contact with jongseuk
May 07 16:11:06 <praveendath92> @ vvu|Log
May 07 16:11:10 <vvu|Log> praveendath92: the eudyptula challange ?
May 07 16:11:10 <Abhishek_> praveendath92: Is that eudytptula-challenge.org ?
May 07 16:11:14 <vvu|Log> that one is it
May 07 16:11:30 <praveendath92> I think so.
May 07 16:11:31 <jkridner> DiegoTc: I think we'll be ok the 3 of us mentors: dcschelt, VoltVisionSteve and me
May 07 16:11:43 <praveendath92> I was online from mobile that time also.
May 07 16:11:57 * jkridner appreciates that VoltVisionSteve has been attentive!
May 07 16:12:00 <praveendath92> I will bookmark right away.
May 07 16:12:14 <ds2> Abhishek_: are you getting my late responses to your questions? (i.e. by scrolling back)
May 07 16:12:52 * karki is here
May 07 16:12:58 * karki had wandered off
May 07 16:13:49 <jkridner> for all, I believe Abhishek_ is having some concerns on real-time web integration and is looking for some extra counsel on that.
May 07 16:14:40 <vvu|Log> real-time web integration as in presenting real time data *graphs and other sutff* ?
May 07 16:14:44 <jkridner> The libsigrok implementation seems to be moving forward from an outsider perspective
May 07 16:14:56 <jkridner> ds2 interaction going well?
May 07 16:15:23 <jkridner> vvu|Log: I think. I know he'd shown off a nice singal graphing utility.
May 07 16:15:30 <jkridner> s/singal/signal/
May 07 16:16:00 <karki> jkridner : I set up my blog with github pages, still to make my video [exams :( ]. I had a couple of meetings with panto to break my project into smaller chunks
May 07 16:16:08 <jkridner> Abhishek_, DiegoTc, karki, praveendath92, rseethamraju, vmayoral: are you somewhat familiar with the projects your peers are implementing?
May 07 16:16:23 <jkridner> karki: cool.
May 07 16:16:46 <praveendath92> I looked at DiegoTc samples
May 07 16:16:49 <ds2> jkridner: yep...tweaking timezone differences
May 07 16:16:52 <Abhishek_> vvu|Log : like a web-frontend for a logic-analyzer
May 07 16:16:57 <jkridner> karki: I met with the creator of BotSpeak last week as well as the current maintainer (Tufts University Center for Engineering Education Outreach)
May 07 16:17:02 <karki> jkridner : overall I know how the project will be broken down and what processes I'll be following.
May 07 16:17:03 <vmayoral> i am a bit into praveendath92's work, needless to say I am interested
May 07 16:17:05 <praveendath92> I know some web stuff.
May 07 16:17:29 <praveendath92> Glad to know vmayoral
May 07 16:17:48 <vmayoral> ;)
May 07 16:17:50 <DiegoTc> not really. I watch vmayoral video. And have read about his project
May 07 16:17:54 <DiegoTc> good video!
May 07 16:18:01 <vmayoral> thanks!
May 07 16:18:15 <praveendath92> I watched too. I suppose we all did ;)
May 07 16:18:24 <jkridner> karki: they were fairly excited to hear about a PRU implementation and gave me a task to create a socket.io-based version of the BoneScript implementation.
May 07 16:18:32 * Abhishek_ wonders he could use praveendath92's works for the front-end to BeagleLogic too ;)
May 07 16:18:36 <praveendath92> It's good. And a nice seed for us all.
May 07 16:19:22 <praveendath92> Abhishek_: i would be glad if i could help.
May 07 16:19:28 <DiegoTc> also rseethamraju project
May 07 16:19:39 <jkridner> karki: they have a Chrome plug-in that enables loading BotSpeak programs over a serial port or network connection and typing directly into the interpreter.
May 07 16:19:52 <rseethamraju> me too! not really. I only know whats on vmayoral’s video
May 07 16:20:00 <DiegoTc> planning to use PyBBIO lib for writing the python tutorial
May 07 16:20:10 <jkridner> karki: they also demonstrated all their stuff with LabView and Blockly.
May 07 16:20:27 <vvu|Log> Abhishek_: i asked about the frontend on my university s CS club page...we have some frontend geeks over here maybe they can give any hints
May 07 16:20:34 * karki looks like I was a bit late for the meeting :(
May 07 16:20:55 <Abhishek_> praveendath92: I have a 9.7" A31 2048x1536 tablet if you need any non-Nexus tabs to try on
May 07 16:20:55 <praveendath92> You are looking for graphing tools ?
May 07 16:21:00 <praveendath92> On web ?
May 07 16:21:37 <praveendath92> Sure. That will be of good help later :)
May 07 16:22:05 <praveendath92> @Abhishek_: prev ques.
May 07 16:22:16 <vmayoral> Abhishek_: what functions are you implementing in the Logic Analyzer?
May 07 16:22:51 <jkridner> Abhishek_: I'd encourage use of socket.io for communication to the browser. It is really rather nice and simple. I'd think you'd want your C sigrok app to produce JSON on STDOUT and have a node.js listener forward it to the web page using socket.io. Alternatively, though I don't recommend it, you could use another websockets implementaiton: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_WebSocket_implementations
May 07 16:23:20 <Abhishek_> currently sample, view and protocol decoding. Trigger implementation would be something basic at first, we'll see how far we can get.
May 07 16:23:30 <jkridner> karki: you could also use a memory mapped circular buffer monitored by node.js.
May 07 16:24:19 <jkridner> karki: https://www.npmjs.org/package/mmap
May 07 16:24:21 <Abhishek_> jkridner: I too am in favour of Socket.io , will try it out soon.
May 07 16:24:23 <karki> jkridner : I had mailed the creator of botspeak much before gsoc. He was excited!
May 07 16:25:08 <jkridner> rseethamraju: are you encountering any issues? engaging with your mentors well?
May 07 16:25:36 * jkridner looks for alexanderhiam and VoltVisionSteve
May 07 16:25:51 <karki> jkridner : "monitored by node.js" ? I didn't get that bit...
May 07 16:26:43 <rseethamraju> no. We’ve had a Skype call every Tuesday
May 07 16:26:45 <alexanderhiam> hey, sorry, bit distracted
May 07 16:26:55 <jkridner> karki: I mean, node.js would act as an intermediary handling the http requests on the client side and collecting data dumps from the sigrok side to forward on to the client.
May 07 16:27:19 <jkridner> karki: by monitoring, I mean having event listeners for when new data comes from sigrok.
May 07 16:28:11 <rseethamraju> I’ll put up the video by tomorrow. And I’m working which parts of code to optimise and looking at C extensions
May 07 16:28:13 <jkridner> alexanderhiam: understood. hope you don't mind the check-in with everyone to keep the interactions going.
May 07 16:28:55 <alexanderhiam> no problem
May 07 16:29:03 <praveendath92> av500: any recommendations for next week ? Video and some practice on writing kernel modules is what i have in mind currently.
May 07 16:29:03 <Abhishek_> jkridner, mranostay: I was lately thinking of keeping the server completely in node.js and use JS bindings (which do not exist currently, but I recall you mentioning how to do native lib calls in node) for libsigrok to implement it. I would need more counsel on this too.
May 07 16:29:24 <praveendath92> Also vvu|Log.
May 07 16:29:38 <jkridner> Abhishek_: ah, node-ffi to use libsigrok directly. that'd be pretty easy.
May 07 16:29:43 <karki> Abhishek_ : you are dealing with sigrok, right?
May 07 16:29:47 <mranostay> Abhishek_: what server part?
May 07 16:30:26 <Abhishek_> By server, I mean an app running on the BBB like sigrok-cli and sampling data from the PRU and processing it to pass it to the frontend
May 07 16:30:56 <alexanderhiam> panto, karki: I haven't heard much about the botspeak project, let me know how I can help
May 07 16:30:58 <DiegoTc> jkrinder, VoltVisionSteve just as an FYI, I'm planning to finish the BBB lightbox similarity plugin for friday. It will be easier to do it from 0, than trying to modify the lightbox plugin I was using.
May 07 16:31:09 <mranostay> Abhishek_: using what for frontend?
May 07 16:31:20 <cdsteinkuehler> Signing off...I have prior committments on Wednesdays :(   ...but I'm always available via email.
May 07 16:31:21 <Abhishek_> jkridner mranostay ds2 cdsteinkuehler : http://www.theembeddedkitchen.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/GSoC14_Presentation_Rev1.pdf <= Draft PPT for video
May 07 16:31:26 <panto> everyone is doing the same thing
May 07 16:31:32 <panto> PRU basics are important
May 07 16:31:50 <Abhishek_> mranostay: do go through that presentation
May 07 16:31:56 <mranostay> and if i see anyone toggleing the pinmux via PRU here :)
May 07 16:32:10 <vmayoral> praveendath92: can you share with me your tentative schedule?
May 07 16:32:16 <vvu|Log> praveendath92: mainly the video needs to be about your project not linux kernel coding style
May 07 16:32:22 <vvu|Log> or how to do modules
May 07 16:32:23 <cdsteinkuehler> PDF looks good!
May 07 16:34:18 <jkridner> Abhishek_: I like it. I'd just encourage you to spend a bit of time at the front to explain why you are motivated to create this and what makes running it on microcontrollers (PRUs) within a Linux computer with shared memory so interesting in a concise way.
May 07 16:34:38 <praveendath92> vmayoral: I made while making my proposal.
May 07 16:35:03 <praveendath92> Just a min. I will get you the link.
May 07 16:35:15 <vmayoral> praveendath92: thanks!
May 07 16:35:19 <karki> alexanderhiam : It's going quite steady, still figuring out the different chunks of the project! I'm looking at panto 's code (remote proc device driver ) and learning
May 07 16:35:21 <jkridner> Abhishek_: a single example of how you envision using this as a learning tool (show me don't tell me sort of thing) right at the beginning would go a ways.
May 07 16:35:32 <jkridner> Abhishek_: I like the whole way the project seems to be going.
May 07 16:36:01 <praveendath92> vvu|Log: no no it won't be about kernel programming style. That's just for my reference.
May 07 16:36:43 <praveendath92> vmayoral: http://blog.praveenkumar.co.in/2014/05/gsoc-14-proposal-for-beagleorg.html
May 07 16:36:48 <vvu|Log> perfect if so
May 07 16:36:51 <praveendath92> :)
May 07 16:37:09 <jkridner> I think I've heard from everyone but disdi that communication is going well and issues are being addressed before the official start of coding in 12 days.
May 07 16:37:26 <praveendath92> I'm lagging a bit but i will catch up.
May 07 16:37:35 <_av500_> praveendath92: will you be on irc for the next 2 weeks?
May 07 16:37:36 <jkridner> Please contact me directly if you have any concerns about how the program is going.
May 07 16:37:39 <_av500_> before ocding starts?
May 07 16:37:43 <_av500_> coding
May 07 16:38:04 <praveendath92> Of course. I sorted out other issues.
May 07 16:38:34 <jkridner> praveendath92: good to hear you'll be "bonding"!
May 07 16:38:46 <praveendath92> I was missing for last 2 weeks.
May 07 16:39:03 <praveendath92> Haha. Yeah just like Google said.
May 07 16:39:13 <praveendath92> Sorry about that.
May 07 16:39:21 * jkridner sounds gavel and leaves discussion to the active issues raised.
May 07 16:39:45 <vvu|Log> praveendath92: i'm mainly idling around here all day so u can ping whenever u have questions
May 07 16:40:20 <praveendath92> You won't disappointed anymore.
May 07 16:40:37 <Abhishek_> thanks for the suggestion jkridner, I'll incorporate that in my video (and a slide or two).  I'm not exactly sure on the meaning of "a learning tool (show me don't tell me sort of thing)"
May 07 16:40:50 <praveendath92> * won't be disappointed
May 07 16:41:31 * praveendath92 hates the he misses few words while typing.
May 07 16:41:51 <praveendath92> *the way he misses.
May 07 16:41:59 <jkridner> Abhishek_: some sort of graphic or bullet points where you can take in the value of this as a learning tool all at once.
May 07 16:42:42 <jkridner> Abhishek_: the web image later on kinda helps, but you should be talking about implementation by that point and it doesn't give you the most complete picture of how you'd use the hardware.
May 07 16:42:56 <VoltVisionSteve> jkridner, DiegoTc , alexanderhiam, rseethamraju : Sorry I am late.  I lost track of time in another meeting.  Reading today's history now...
May 07 16:43:16 <Abhishek_> jkridner: maybe something like the text here (I updated the page today): http://www.theembeddedkitchen.net/gsoc-2014-beaglelogic/
May 07 16:43:25 <vmayoral> praveendath92: looks really good in a quick view, you're also well supported (vvu|Log did quite a nice job last year, i'm certain he'll be a great mentor). I'll try to go tonight through your schedule and i'll ping you if something comes to my mind. I'll try to follow your progress as well ;)
May 07 16:43:48 <jkridner> Abhishek_: I'm just thinking there is some way to make the lights turn on for people that don't realize you can be running I2C Linux drivers at the same time as monitoring the pins with this decoder app.
May 07 16:44:54 <praveendath92> vmayoral: thanks :) now I should really start working. More people watching ;)
May 07 16:45:31 <jkridner> Abhishek_: I think you represent the idea there, indeed! A slide that puts it in a picture might help people get it early on in your presentation before you elaborate.
May 07 16:46:16 <praveendath92> I support jkridner there.
May 07 16:46:32 <praveendath92> A graphical illustration of your project.
May 07 16:46:58 <praveendath92> At first look i didn't get the idea.
May 07 16:47:47 <praveendath92> No criticism intended.
May 07 16:48:33 <praveendath92> I have similar thoughts about my 1st slide.
May 07 16:48:39 <Abhishek_> okay, thanks for the suggestions! I'll incorporate them into my presentation.
May 07 16:48:50 <praveendath92> :)
May 07 16:55:22 <mranostay> Abhishek_: looks good overall. have you thought of doing any RLE?
May 07 16:55:37 <praveendath92> Abhishek_ av500 vvu|Log I'm signing off for today then. I will be around from tomorrow :)
May 07 16:55:54 <_av500_> praveendath92: np
May 07 16:56:01 <_av500_> and good to see you back
May 07 16:56:05 <praveendath92> Ciao vmayoral :)
May 07 16:56:16 <praveendath92> :)
May 07 16:56:32 <Abhishek_> g'night praveendath92
May 07 16:56:37 <vvu|Log> cya praveendath92
May 07 16:58:03 <Abhishek_> mranostay: yeah thought of it, but I'd need your help too :) . I was just about to ping you
May 07 17:00:08 <Abhishek_> mranostay: RLE in the bindings or at the PRU firmware level?
May 07 17:02:11 <mranostay> Abhishek_: firmware.. bindings would be silly to do it
May 07 17:03:38 <Abhishek_> I need to put more thought into it for the firmware. Do you have any ideas?
May 07 17:04:33 <Abhishek_> How would it impact the sample rate?
May 07 17:07:38 <joel__> mranostay, settled for the salae logic-8 for my needs btw..
May 07 17:07:49 <mranostay> joel__: clone?
May 07 17:08:44 <joel__> mranostay, the $149 one. I picked mine from Amazon
May 07 17:08:55 <joel__> they have clones of that too? I saw something similar on ebay
May 07 17:09:04 <mranostay> yes for a fraction of the cost
May 07 17:09:23 <Abhishek_> IIRC the clones are 15$ around eBay
May 07 17:09:24 <joel__> didn't want to risk it, didn't know if the probes/clips all came with that one
May 07 17:09:38 <joel__> or if it even worked
May 07 17:10:18 <Abhishek_> I'm not sure about saleae logic software, but it would definitely work with sigrok/PulseView
May 07 17:11:50 <Abhishek_> their own software does have some built-in counterfeit detection schemes I've heard of
May 07 17:15:40 <vmayoral> all right gentleman, i'm off as well, looking forward to see more about this year's outcomes. Keep in touch!
May 07 17:15:56 <cwicks_> hello GSoc mentors - i have an important interruption
May 07 17:16:09 <cwicks_> I only have 4 student addresses on this sheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtD7XdBlve3HdFRaU1NEZE40cUgxNFlYTEdjNklYcEE&usp=sharing#gid=1
May 07 17:16:42 <cwicks_> I need addresses for 2 students in India asap as only 3 of the students living in India are listed on the sheeet
May 07 17:17:33 <ds2> does Abhishek_ have an entry?
May 07 17:17:40 <Abhishek_> cwicks_: I'm one of them and I'm currently in Jakarta. How do I send you a new address (Apparently I don't need anything for now)
May 07 17:17:41 <ds2> cwicks: does Abhishek_ have an entry?
May 07 17:17:48 <ds2> n/m
May 07 17:18:02 <ds2> Abhishek_: talk to mranostay
May 07 17:18:50 <Abhishek_> mranostay: ping
May 07 17:18:59 <cwicks_> Abhishek thanks for answering my plea
May 07 17:19:03 <mranostay> yes?
May 07 17:19:29 <ds2> mranostay: u have access to the spreadsheet for addresses, right?
May 07 17:19:35 <cwicks_> Abhishek_ are you going to be living in Jakarta for the summer to do the work and do you already have your BeagleBone Black?
May 07 17:20:09 <mranostay> ds2: which spreadsheet?
May 07 17:20:22 <ds2> mranostay: the GSoC student address spreadsheet
May 07 17:20:26 <Abhishek_> cwicks_: Yes, I'm here for the summers and as for the hardware requirements, I already have a BBB A6A now. I requsted jkridner to hold my shipment for either a Rev C or in lieu of a cape
May 07 17:20:38 <ds2> mransostay: the one cwicks pasted a link to about 10-20 lines up
May 07 17:21:08 <rseethamraju> I have to go as well. See you guys next wednesday
May 07 17:23:25 <ds2> cwicks_: do you have one for vmayoral?
May 07 17:23:50 <jkridner> hi cwicks_
May 07 17:23:59 <cwicks_> Hi jkridner
May 07 17:24:11 <mranostay> Abhishek_: you don't need any HW iirc?
May 07 17:24:26 <cwicks_> Okay Abhishek_ we'll hold until Rev C.  Please advise a new address for yourself on the spreadsheet
May 07 17:25:33 <Abhishek_> mranostay: Not for now. We might have to design a level shifter cape at a later point so that people do not fry their BBB.
May 07 17:25:50 <mranostay> yeah well that is a simple oshpark order
May 07 17:26:37 <Abhishek_> mranostay: I want to edit my shipping address on that sheet
May 07 17:27:05 <mranostay> Abhishek_: ah you don't have access?
May 07 17:27:16 <Abhishek_> nope, let me request access
May 07 17:27:32 <ds2> mraonstay: it is primary mentor access only, hence the reason I told him to ping you
May 07 17:28:06 <Abhishek_> ah sorry
May 07 17:28:28 <mranostay> Abhishek_: email your address i'll get to putting it up
May 07 17:29:00 <biot> mranostay: did you see the release last night?
May 07 17:29:07 <cwicks_> Hello ds2 I don't have anything on the sheet for BeaglePilot.  i had an address last year I think for Victor Mayoral Vilches , but need a new one verified an placed in the sheet please
May 07 17:30:07 <ds2> cwicks_: tridge (primary mentor for that) is in .AU and is probally asleep right now
May 07 17:30:28 <ds2> will pester him if I see him
May 07 17:30:37 <ds2> vmayoral: ping?
May 07 17:30:47 <Abhishek_> vmayoral left
May 07 17:30:54 <ds2> doh
May 07 17:32:23 <cwicks_> ds2 and jkridner   I would appreciate if you can email me at beagleship@list.ti.com the email addresses to the mentors and students that are not on the google doc yet so I can ask for shipping information
May 07 17:32:40 <Abhishek_> mranostay: Mail sent, another upcoming
May 07 17:33:14 <cwicks_> Question for any additional mentors - do you have what you need for the projects at each of your co-mentors desks?
May 07 17:42:36 <mranostay> Abhishek_: yeah email is best this time of day.. day job and all :)
May 07 17:42:37 <cwicks_> Hello mentors and students - one more logistics thing to help me - I will insert a column in the spreadsheet to indicate your IRC chat name.  please fill that out this week when you get a chance
May 07 17:43:39 <jkridner> cwicks_: note, I have only given the primary mentors access to writing the spreadsheet.
May 07 17:44:15 <cwicks_> thanks for that jkridner I'll only bug the primary mentors then :)
May 07 17:44:26 <cwicks_> primary mentors - there are always small prizes involved :)
May 07 17:45:07 <cwicks_> with being on your toes on logistics_in addition to getting the students what they need
May 07 17:49:39 <cwicks_> Mentors and students - any other logistics questions before I exit stage right on the IRC channel today?
May 07 17:50:25 <cwicks_> Per last week's meeting, I have ordered Matt Richardson's book - Getting Started with BeagleBone for each of the students and will ship those also
May 07 17:50:50 <cwicks_> joel_ did you get a raspberry pi for your student yet?
May 07 17:51:01 <alexanderhiam> cwicks_: are there any official channels for mentors to ship stuff to students?
May 07 17:51:39 <mranostay> alexanderhiam: $5 declared and a gift :P
May 07 17:51:58 <mranostay> bradfa: hey book dude
May 07 17:52:09 <bradfa> hi mranostay dude!
May 07 17:52:10 <jkridner> alexanderhiam: for the ones in India, I believe cwicks_ is making a shipment in-batch to TI-India and have them ship from there.
May 07 17:52:28 <cwicks_> alexanderhiam: not through GSoC.  We handle it as the mentoring org.  TI is donating the BBB to the students and using the TI shipping channel
May 07 17:53:03 <cwicks_> alexanderhiam: yes for Rekha, I have her address and shipped a BBB to our TI India colleagues and they will forward to her.  I expect w/in the next couple of days
May 07 17:53:27 <alexanderhiam> ok, I was thinking about sending a few sensor ICs her way as well
May 07 17:54:25 <cwicks_> alexanderhiam: can you please email me at beagleship@list.ti.com and give me the scoop. Either you can ship the items to me, or if they are low cost, send me the links and i'll order and reship to the student
May 07 17:54:49 <cwicks_> alexanderhiam: do you already have the bacon cape for her?
May 07 17:55:20 <Abhishek_> cwicks_: Would the book ship with the BBB or separately? How would you handle shipments to Indonesia, would it be direct or through your local arm here?
May 07 17:55:36 <alexanderhiam> no, am I meant to get the bacon cape?
May 07 17:56:01 <cwicks_> Abhishek_ the books are on their way to my India office for the 5 students I thought were in India... i'm going to have to pause and ask how best to get things to Indonesia
May 07 17:56:42 <cwicks_> Abhishek_: we don't have a TI office there for easy handling of customs/duties so I'll need some time to figure out how to get things to you in the best way
May 07 17:57:08 <cwicks_> Abhishek_ do you have a business office in Jakarta I can ship to ?  home addresses are really touch
May 07 17:57:15 <jkridner> cwicks_: I just sent you most of the e-mail addresses
May 07 17:57:19 <cwicks_> touch and go regarding getting them there
May 07 17:57:39 <cwicks_> jkridner: thanks - I"m a bit old fashioned I guess w/ email :)
May 07 17:58:01 <cwicks_> alexanderhiam  I can get the bacon cape for her and ship it
May 07 17:59:19 <alexanderhiam> cwicks_: maybe I could send a few things to you to go along with it then
May 07 17:59:56 <cwicks_> alexanderhiam that would be perfect - just email me your plan at beagleship@list.ti.com and we'll tie out that way
May 07 18:00:06 <alexanderhiam> great, thanks!
May 07 18:05:18 <cwicks_> jkridner do you know the status of rev C shipments from CCo?
May 07 18:06:28 <disdi_> cwicks_: I have some questions
May 07 18:09:22 <cwicks_> disdi_sure what team are you with?
May 07 18:09:39 <disdi_> I am with joel__
May 07 18:09:47 <disdi_> from india
May 07 18:20:37 <cwicks_> g'night gsoc folks - happy coding!
May 07 18:20:44 <vvu|Log> night cwicks_
May 07 18:20:50 <Abhishek_> g'night cwicks_
May 07 18:24:46 <jkridner> cwicks_ Rev C started shipping yesterday
May 07 18:25:04 <Abhishek_> cwicks_ just left
May 07 18:25:58 <Abhishek_> ah, does that mean Rev C is on schedule!
May 07 18:43:21 <jkridner> yup
May 07 18:47:43 <Abhishek_> the boards are shipping with Debian?
May 07 18:47:59 <jkridner> yes
May 07 18:49:05 <Abhishek_> the 23rd April image (the last release)?
May 07 18:49:49 <vvu|Log> jkridner: any hint how circuitco does the flashing of the eMMC? like mass flashing of boards ?
May 07 18:51:06 <Abhishek_> I think there are gang programmers for the task, that flash eMMC chips in bulk
May 07 18:58:20 <Abhishek_> vvu|Log: found a video, might be interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-cRw8fFlio
May 07 19:00:04 <_av500_> Abhishek_: vvu|Log: these days most stuff is flashed on the production like
May 07 19:00:13 <_av500_> as part of prod testing
May 07 19:00:35 <vvu|Log> mhmhmh
May 07 19:14:55 <Abhishek_> wow, in the video, they program 48 eMMCs in 6 minutes (tray - programmer - back to tray).
May 07 19:18:15 <DiegoTc> Abhishek_: what time is in Jakarta right now?
May 07 19:19:36 <Abhishek_> 2:20 AM, I'm exiting in a few minutes now
May 07 19:20:10 <Abhishek_> have to shoot a mail to matt, then I'll exit
May 07 20:00:51 <jkridner> vvu|Log, Abhishek_: they use uSD cards to flash. They have boxes full of them.
May 07 20:01:24 <Abhishek_> mranostay: I just shot you an email.
May 07 20:02:14 <Abhishek_> interesting and way cheaper than using one of those fancy eMMC flasher factory line equipment, see a YouTube link above
May 07 20:13:06 <Abhishek_> g'night everyone
May 07 20:20:51 <vvu|Log> night
May 08 02:48:36 <Abhishek_> mranostay: ds2: there?
May 08 02:49:25 <mranostay> yes
May 08 02:49:57 <Abhishek_> Since sigrok is GPLv3, can we have any other license than that?
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