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Aug 20 04:41:15 <tridge> http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/first-flight-of-ardupilot-on-linux
Aug 20 09:13:24 <vvu_> Abhishek_: ping
Aug 20 11:21:13 <karki> alexanderhiam : are the camera libraries working on PyBBIO ?
Aug 20 12:04:21 <Abhishek_> vvu: pong
Aug 20 12:28:02 * Abhishek_ gets poked by karki
Aug 20 13:45:14 <praveendath92> vvu: ping
Aug 20 13:45:49 <vvu> praveendath92: pong
Aug 20 13:46:25 <vvu> looked at the final video
Aug 20 13:46:29 <vvu> good job!
Aug 20 13:46:35 <praveendath92> Thanks :)
Aug 20 13:46:54 <vvu> so everything is done? just bugs to fix ?
Aug 20 13:46:58 <praveendath92> I started new branches in both the repos.
Aug 20 13:47:05 <praveendath92> For HID support.
Aug 20 13:47:24 <praveendath92> As of now, I see only one random bug.
Aug 20 13:47:30 <vvu> which one ?
Aug 20 13:47:36 <vvu> the full memory one ?
Aug 20 13:47:39 <praveendath92> That occurs when the transfers are too high for a long time.
Aug 20 13:47:48 <praveendath92> Slow path one.
Aug 20 13:48:08 <vvu> where do you think the bottleneck is ?
Aug 20 13:48:16 <praveendath92> The bottle neck is caused because of garbage collection on Android.
Aug 20 13:48:41 <praveendath92> It's consuming 25ms everytime it refreshes the image view.
Aug 20 13:48:45 <vvu> but how much memory is your app using ?
Aug 20 13:48:50 <vvu> can you profile it a bit ?
Aug 20 13:49:08 <praveendath92> https://github.com/praveendath92/bard-droid/issues/2
Aug 20 13:49:29 * vvu is building qt from source on his plain chromebook...what a life
Aug 20 13:49:47 <praveendath92> Around 1024*768*2 + something bytes minimum.
Aug 20 13:50:18 <praveendath92> vvu: On a unrelated topic, can we use adb tool seperately?
Aug 20 13:50:26 * Abhishek_ is the now the last presentation uploader
Aug 20 13:50:34 <vvu> don't really get the question
Aug 20 13:50:41 <praveendath92> I want to make a windows & Linux app which can send adb commands.
Aug 20 13:51:12 <vvu> praveendath92: so your app uses 1.5 MB
Aug 20 13:51:17 <vvu> why is the GC going there
Aug 20 13:51:20 <vvu> it should not
Aug 20 13:51:25 <vvu> or your calculation is not right :)
Aug 20 13:51:30 <praveendath92> Abhishek_: Where are the other videos posted? On the report threads? I found only vmarol's
Aug 20 13:51:51 <Abhishek_> praveendath92: G+
Aug 20 13:51:55 * vvu did not do a final video last year :) 
Aug 20 13:52:35 <vvu> praveendath92: do you have local objects ? like all the buffers you use ?
Aug 20 13:52:38 <praveendath92> Abhishek_: Link to the page?
Aug 20 13:52:47 <vvu> try and make them global *singleton style*
Aug 20 13:52:54 <vvu> maybe in this manner the GC won't go there
Aug 20 13:53:28 <praveendath92> vvu: GC is occurs when I refresh the image from my local buffer.
Aug 20 13:54:00 <praveendath92> Probably the in-built function that I'm using to build bitmap from raw data is consuming more memory.
Aug 20 13:54:08 <vvu> maybe that one
Aug 20 13:54:24 <vvu> the function is from android core ?
Aug 20 13:54:34 <praveendath92> vvu: Did you see the issue 2? Link above.
Aug 20 13:54:38 <praveendath92> Yes.
Aug 20 13:55:19 <praveendath92> I'm thinking, I will break down the image view into multiple parts (vertically).
Aug 20 13:55:31 <praveendath92> And update only those portions that have changes.
Aug 20 13:55:43 <vvu> in this way it may work
Aug 20 13:56:02 <vvu> whre is the call to the raw->bitmap ?
Aug 20 13:58:13 <praveendath92> vvu: https://github.com/praveendath92/bard-droid/blob/master/src/in/co/praveenkumar/bard/activities/MainActivity.java#L49
Aug 20 13:59:00 <vvu> praveendath92: try and move the bitmap object global
Aug 20 13:59:07 <vvu> because you allocate and deallocate each time
Aug 20 13:59:18 <vvu> when the updateImage is called
Aug 20 14:00:33 <vvu> praveendath92: gc comes into the scene at the early start of the app? or after some time ?
Aug 20 14:00:47 <praveendath92> On every image update.
Aug 20 14:01:13 <vvu> try and do minor tweaks
Aug 20 14:01:20 <vvu> but the gc tells you how much has freed right ?
Aug 20 14:01:27 <praveendath92> Oh. I haven't tried global declaration.
Aug 20 14:01:34 <praveendath92> Yes.
Aug 20 14:01:34 <Abhishek_> praveendath92: karki's: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHVhG-9td0M ; rseethamraju's : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp398Lkmzak ; DiegoTc's : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIugTSnqcf4&list=PL69IT_VOI_hqOGoWoOjbw0YTUsDLJNBdo&index=3
Aug 20 14:01:46 <praveendath92> Around 9Mb.
Aug 20 14:01:59 <vvu> but each frame is that big ?
Aug 20 14:02:02 <praveendath92> Abhishek_: Sorry for the trouble. I meant the G+ page link.
Aug 20 14:02:07 <praveendath92> Nope. It's not.
Aug 20 14:02:23 <praveendath92> I will try the global declaration and check.
Aug 20 14:02:48 <vvu> also can't you declare how much memory your app needs or smth like that ?
Aug 20 14:03:06 <vvu> just tell the OS you need 10MB or so, if you can
Aug 20 14:03:47 <praveendath92> I will try the global declaration of Bitmap. It should work.
Aug 20 14:04:11 <vvu> ok
Aug 20 14:04:22 <vvu> just remove all new's from there and make buffers global
Aug 20 14:04:23 <praveendath92> Unless the huge usage is a result of setImageBitmap method.
Aug 20 14:04:30 <vvu> we will see
Aug 20 14:04:33 <vvu> try that and ping me here
Aug 20 14:05:55 <Abhishek_> praveendath92: https://plus.google.com/communities/104960311812236799231
Aug 20 14:06:11 <praveendath92> Abhishek_: Thanks :)
Aug 20 14:12:30 <vvu> praveendath92: http://www.war-worlds.com/blog/2012/06/on-android-garbage-collection-can-kill-you
Aug 20 14:41:39 <vvu> praveendath92: any update ?
Aug 20 14:42:25 <praveendath92> I'm at Friend's home. No beagle bone with me right now.
Aug 20 14:42:41 <vvu> oh ok
Aug 20 14:42:44 <praveendath92> I will post the update sometime today in an email.
Aug 20 15:53:22 <_av500_> gm
Aug 20 15:53:35 <vvu> hello
Aug 20 16:04:57 <vvu> jkridner: ping
Aug 20 16:05:26 <vvu> don't we have meeting now ? :)
Aug 20 16:05:56 <jkridner> hi vvu
Aug 20 16:06:03 <jkridner> in #beagle-mentors
Aug 20 16:06:15 <vvu> invite me :)
Aug 20 16:07:17 <vvu> thx
Aug 20 16:08:01 <jkridner> panto: you around?
Aug 20 16:08:28 <panto> jkridner, yeah
Aug 20 16:12:32 <ds2> hmmmmmm
Aug 20 16:18:53 <vvu> jkridner: don't think i can manage the flasher on windows...there are some problems with the usb system. like the ROM goes in some bogus mode
Aug 20 16:19:14 <vvu> tested on 3 machines and same behaviour...posted back on libusb ML maybe i get an answer
Aug 20 16:19:28 <vvu> any chance you can put the usb analyzer there ?
Aug 20 16:20:50 <_av500_> vvu: I can once I get back
Aug 20 16:21:26 <vvu> _av500_: thx, ping me when you have hw avaialble so i can give you instructions :)
Aug 20 16:23:44 <jkridner> vvu: yeah. my analyzer won't work on the laptop I got, but I'm at TI Dallas some this week and will be able to pull a USB trace.
Aug 20 16:24:54 <vvu> jkridner: _av500_ after i install WinUSB drivers the ROM just hangs in a bogus state
Aug 20 16:25:06 <vvu> does not even reset itself, how it should do
Aug 20 16:25:13 <vvu> at least how it behaves on linux
Aug 20 16:34:08 <vvu> _av500_: jkridner http://sourceforge.net/p/libusb/mailman/message/32697265/
Aug 20 16:34:18 <vvu> this is the libusb mail I have sent, all the details of the problem are there
Aug 20 16:34:26 <jkridner> thanks
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