**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 26 02:59:59 2015 Feb 26 10:57:16 av500: you around ? Feb 26 10:57:23 yes Feb 26 10:58:07 av500: you think an android app that runs on the BBB runnin android is a good enough gsoc proposal. was about to put that on the ideas wiki Feb 26 10:59:27 there is already android for the BBB, no? Feb 26 10:59:35 what would your project do? Feb 26 11:00:28 av500: there is. but no app that’ll take advantage of the peripherals that someone might like to use if they are using the BBB with Android. spi, i2c, gpio for example Feb 26 11:01:28 av500: run android on the bbb based on existing steps, create an app that will allow one to talk to some standard sensor modules and/or capes through an app Feb 26 11:01:47 like a demo app? Feb 26 11:02:06 (btw suggesting an idea, no longer a student now :) Feb 26 11:02:10 so more like a library that other apps can use Feb 26 11:02:18 so a HAL library for BBB Feb 26 11:03:15 av500: yepp, like the bacone cape got you started with using simple stuff using embedded linux. this would do it for Android. Feb 26 11:03:23 understood Feb 26 11:04:17 would you mentor it? :) Feb 26 11:04:48 av500: exactly, i got a chance to read a preview copy of Andrews new book on Android and BBB, and he’s done a lot of the heavy lifting already ! Feb 26 11:04:57 ah Feb 26 11:04:59 :) Feb 26 11:05:06 so what remains to be done? Feb 26 11:05:11 url to that book? Feb 26 11:06:06 av500: actually, the demo app would be like 2-3 weeks (probably less) weeks work Feb 26 11:06:08 https://www.packtpub.com/hardware-and-creative/android-beaglebone-black Feb 26 11:06:50 av500: don’t mind mentoring if some of the more experienced mentors are co mentoring :D Feb 26 12:45:06 hey anujdeshpande Feb 26 12:45:24 hey Abhishek_ Feb 26 12:45:44 You are a reviewer for that book? Feb 26 12:46:23 Abhishek_: yeah, one of the 3 ones Feb 26 12:47:55 nice, currently I'm also reviewing for Packt, the book is scheduled to release somewhere around May 2015 Feb 26 12:48:39 Abhishek_: it’s fun to review :D you get free copies and stuff :D Feb 26 12:49:05 Yup, I'm thinking that I should swap my choice of book with this one Feb 26 12:49:28 looks like a very interesting read Feb 26 12:50:13 Abhishek_: it’s definitely a good read Feb 26 12:50:54 You might be interested in this: http://theembeddedkitchen.net/coming-soon-yet-another-beaglebone-displaycaptouch-cape/391 Feb 26 12:55:33 Abhishek_ you thinking of getting these manufactured? Feb 26 12:56:04 I'll take a call after testing one of the prototypes for myself Feb 26 12:56:43 I did also design a cape for BeagleLogic last December Feb 26 12:57:24 you should talk to david anders and get these manufactured :D Feb 26 12:57:42 more or less everyone I know now reviews for packt :p Feb 26 12:58:01 karki: you know a lot of beagle boys than :D Feb 26 12:58:15 anujdeshpande : yeah Feb 26 12:58:18 :) Feb 26 12:58:42 There's recently been a surge on the number of books for the BeagleBone, one seems to be spoilt for choice :P Feb 26 12:58:56 I also was a guest author for one book Feb 26 12:58:58 :) Feb 26 12:59:04 wrote about PRU and PRU speak Feb 26 12:59:07 nice, which one? Feb 26 12:59:09 neat Feb 26 12:59:16 * karki searches for the url Feb 26 12:59:46 * Abhishek_ 's bio in the book has a mention of BeagleLogic as well :) Feb 26 13:01:22 this one I believe : https://www.packtpub.com/hardware-and-creative/beaglebone-black-cookbook Feb 26 13:02:04 cool :) Feb 26 13:02:14 * anujdeshpande looking forward to alexanderhiam’s book now Feb 26 13:08:47 Hello guys !!! Do you have some good ideas on Beagle-RT ? Feb 26 13:08:52 Real-Time Feb 26 15:21:35 Hi !!! Does anybody have some good ideas on Beagle-RT (Real-Time) ?? Feb 26 18:50:40 Projects are not meant to be discussed via PMs, which will simply be ignored. Feb 26 19:34:20 indeed. Feb 26 19:49:02 BoneScript web pages with live-running examples and documentation i want to work on this project .. can anyone suggest how to proceed ... Feb 26 19:54:56 Utal: ask DiegoTc when he's around Feb 26 19:56:20 abhishek ... r u mentoring for gsoc this year ... Feb 26 19:57:24 This can be confirmed only after the list of organizations is approved by Google. Feb 26 19:59:59 abhishek .. i have priviously worked on pi .. but i am new to beangle-borad... can u tell me how to get started .. Feb 26 20:00:06 have you seen the current stuff yet, Utal? Feb 26 20:00:24 'ya .... Feb 26 20:00:52 have you done node.js stuff? Feb 26 20:02:34 i am cool with node.js staffs ... and i have seen going through the provided repo as well ... Feb 26 20:03:07 hang around this channel Feb 26 20:03:32 JS, etc is not my area Feb 26 20:04:34 ds2 what do u work with .. Feb 26 20:06:28 ds2, what do u work with .. Feb 26 20:10:56 other stuff :D Feb 26 20:11:03 sorry, got to go. lunch appt. Feb 26 22:34:43 ' Feb 27 00:57:50 hello.. I am intrested in the idea of flashing bbb directly from a remote computer.. Can anyone get me started !! Feb 27 00:59:00 i am the project starter there, mainly did you look over the code ? Feb 27 01:00:57 yes.. It seems intresting... Can you please tell me is it implemented for BBB ? Feb 27 01:01:30 for the BBB works just for Linux, needs porting to OS X and windows Feb 27 01:02:41 OK !!! So Can you please get me started ?? Feb 27 01:03:12 first stand on your head and spin around clockwise 3 times Feb 27 01:03:57 ?? Feb 27 01:06:27 I am able to understand some modules and pieces of code.. Feb 27 01:07:34 So this time I would like the BBB to get ported to Windows too !! Feb 27 01:11:23 kiran4399: understanding some pieces of the code requires more than a couple of mins of scribbling there :) Feb 27 01:12:28 So would you like me to go through the code to get a deeper understanding ? Feb 27 01:13:53 yes, it is better to wait until the orgs are announced on monday Feb 27 01:14:01 if beagle is accepted we can take the discussion further from there Feb 27 01:14:04 ds2: still here ? Feb 27 01:15:52 OK !! Do you think porting BBB onto Windows would be a valid project ?? Feb 27 01:17:01 i tried to do it and did not succeed, the drivers were incompatible for Windows...here we need some help from TI Feb 27 01:17:18 1st i would like to see for the project a nice QT GUI Feb 27 01:17:31 validate the GUI for Linux then start porting to OS X Feb 27 01:17:50 what is QT ? Feb 27 01:18:07 https://qt-project.org/ Feb 27 01:19:15 vvu: yes Feb 27 01:19:46 vvu: Have you looked into if java offers the peices? Feb 27 01:20:10 I don't see any reason why this project can not be taken up even outside of GSoC Feb 27 01:20:42 i did a lot of improvements since GSoC to the project Feb 27 01:20:50 for linux at least is very stable now Feb 27 01:21:03 but I would still go for libusb implementation Feb 27 01:21:50 ds2: can you take a look at https://github.com/ungureanuvladvictor/BBBlfs/issues/16 Feb 27 01:21:56 maybe give an idea or so Feb 27 01:23:16 'k Feb 27 01:26:50 IIRC - you went with the custom drivers cuz there was a problem with the Linux drivers. Have you verified that is still the case with OSX? Feb 27 01:27:36 I took over with custom driver because putting up all those bootp/tftp stuff was too much Feb 27 01:27:54 in OSX by default the OS does not even understand the RNDIS interface Feb 27 01:28:19 so that means you got far enough to get your own loader onto the 335x? Feb 27 01:28:47 yes, i can send whatever I want to the 335x Feb 27 01:28:58 now I am sending u-boot compiled for usb booting Feb 27 01:29:26 then why can't you use the OSX CDC driver? Feb 27 01:30:26 the 335x cannot speak with OS X, i get kIOUSBPipeStalled Feb 27 01:30:36 do not really know what that means... Feb 27 01:30:40 oh which pipe? Feb 27 01:30:49 the CDC EP or the RNDIS ep? Feb 27 01:30:55 i think when enumerating the device Feb 27 01:31:05 oh Feb 27 01:31:20 the 335x goes not even get enumerated right Feb 27 01:31:21 pipe stall means the 335x is not liking how it is probed Feb 27 01:31:41 to debug that, I'd look on the wire Feb 27 01:31:50 to see what the request that result in a stall was Feb 27 01:32:02 again here I need hw usb probe :) Feb 27 01:32:05 could be OSX is asking for an extra descriptor Feb 27 01:32:12 you got an BBX/BBC? Feb 27 01:33:16 BBxM ? Feb 27 01:33:24 there is an older GSoC project to use one of those as a USB hw sniffer Feb 27 01:33:25 yeah Feb 27 01:33:34 i can get my hands on one Feb 27 01:33:46 I shorted the ids to 3 letters - BBC, BBX, BBW, BBB (in order of creation) Feb 27 01:33:59 probally going to have to call the X15 BB5 ;) Feb 27 01:34:45 tru dat :D Feb 27 01:40:24 ds2: i removed all CDC kexts from OSX, in theory now the 335x is not taken by any OS driver so userspace libusb can handle it Feb 27 01:40:44 i am able to set configuration 1 and claim my interface but when I try to read from it i get the kIOUSBPipeStalled Feb 27 01:40:49 but if you are getting a stall, the 335x is not happy about something Feb 27 01:41:04 stall is the USB device side returning an error Feb 27 01:41:43 eh if so i think my expertise is way under the required level to solve this issue :( Feb 27 01:43:18 let see what it is first Feb 27 01:45:14 you were a mentor the usb sniffer bbxm right? Feb 27 01:45:34 yes Feb 27 01:46:10 I also have a Beagle12 Feb 27 01:48:00 found it http://hackaday.com/2013/07/02/usb-sniffing-with-the-beagleboard-xm/ Feb 27 01:57:36 hehe there are full instructions here https://github.com/matlo/bb_usb_sniffer Feb 27 02:00:24 the old elinux pages would have been quicker ;0 Feb 27 02:01:29 time for some cross-compilation now Feb 27 02:08:37 So, vvu... Since you are saying that for porting BBB onto windows we need support from TI, what is there to do in the project ?? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Feb 27 02:59:58 2015