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May 13 06:26:48 <vvu> oh well that escalated quickly
May 13 06:28:34 <av500> heh
May 13 06:29:19 <vvu> av500: got the last phone # ?
May 13 06:32:07 <av500> ya
May 13 06:32:15 <av500> actually had that one all the time
May 13 06:32:21 <av500> just overlooked it :/
May 13 06:33:40 <vvu> so we are all set
May 13 06:34:47 * vvu goes to defend his BSc thesis via a presentation
May 13 06:35:29 <av500> gogogo
May 13 08:05:43 <Abhishek_> vvu: All the best :)
May 13 11:38:09 <vvu> av500: any important things for the meeting today ?
May 13 11:40:33 <av500> nope
May 13 11:40:43 <av500> basically what was in the email
May 13 11:41:35 <vvu> perfect
May 13 11:49:58 <vvu> praveendath92: any more exams ?
May 13 12:06:49 <praveendath92> vvu: Done long ago. Just a paper deadline this weekend
May 13 12:08:39 <vvu> and that is all?
May 13 13:03:29 <vvu> moto-timo: ping
May 13 13:04:10 <Abhishek_> gm all
May 13 13:09:20 <neemo> hello all
May 13 13:11:32 <vvu> hello!
May 13 13:12:00 <Abhishek_> vvu: Thesis defence completed?
May 13 13:12:54 <vvu> yep
May 13 13:13:02 <vvu> just had presentation in the morning....simple tech talk
May 13 13:13:09 <neemo> vvu: congrats!
May 13 13:13:20 <vvu> now i need to pass my exams :)
May 13 13:13:23 <vvu> but thx!
May 13 13:15:22 <neemo> well at least the defense went well, good luck on the exams
May 13 13:15:55 <vvu> thx
May 13 13:24:34 <neemo> nerdboy: I've looked into the magnetometers used on a lot of recent cubesat projects
May 13 13:25:57 <neemo> and most of them use sensors in the 10 Hz sampling rate and a couple of them use Honeywell sensors around 100 Hz
May 13 13:27:49 <neemo> so it would seem the only outlier is the RAX satellite with the PNI 2kHz sensor
May 13 13:29:53 <neemo> To come back to the requirements part, it seems a really high sampling rate for the magnetometer isn't needed, since most of the satellites use a combination of onboard sensors for positioning
May 13 13:31:59 <neemo> Personally, I would still opt for the PNI sensor since most of the research was done around that satellite and it doesn't seem very expensive (compared to some other sensors I glanced at)
May 13 13:32:50 <neemo> nerdboy: for reference, the cubesat projects I looked at are summed up in this report http://www.nsf.gov/geo/ags/uars/cubesat/nsf-nasa-annual-report-cubesat-2013.pdf
May 13 14:03:12 <alexanderhiam> neemo: I would encourage you to focus on the cheaper more readily available mags and include some fusion with other types of sensors
May 13 14:16:32 * apaar 's theory exams are finally over :)
May 13 14:17:02 <vvu> goodie!
May 13 14:26:32 <Abhishek_> celebration (and coding) time ;)
May 13 14:27:28 <Abhishek_> karki_: Which locality are you situated in?
May 13 15:30:26 <DiegoTc> _av500_: I'm not sure to be available for the meeting, I will read logs later
May 13 15:35:57 <karki_> Abhishek_ : HSR layout
May 13 15:36:16 <karki_> probably about 10km from where you stay
May 13 15:38:14 <Abhishek_> karki_: where I'm staying is approx 1 km from Baiyyappanahalli metro station
May 13 15:38:20 <_av500_> DiegoTc: ok
May 13 15:45:36 <hendersa> ankur: Are you there?
May 13 15:46:07 <moto-timo> vvu: do you need me to resend the email?
May 13 15:47:04 <ankur> yes
May 13 15:47:37 <hendersa> ankur: Did you send a mail with your phone number so that the GSoC equipment can be mailed to you?
May 13 15:47:58 <ankur> ya i sent it
May 13 15:48:21 <hendersa> OK. Just making sure because I don't think I was copied on it.
May 13 15:48:39 <hendersa> Do you have a github repo set up for your HAL work?
May 13 15:49:06 <ankur> yes i have set it up. but still nothing new in it
May 13 15:49:31 <ankur> https://github.com/ankurayadav/bbbandroidHAL
May 13 15:51:54 * jkridner ended up using his own phone number for ones where he didn't get phone numbers in time.
May 13 15:52:08 <jkridner> had an issue with a couple boards already getting lost, but fixing that now. :(
May 13 15:52:30 <Abhishek_> hi jkridner
May 13 15:52:40 <vvu> moto-timo: nop, got all of em
May 13 15:52:42 <moto-timo> jkridner gets a sudden spike in crank calls
May 13 15:52:48 <moto-timo> vvu: good
May 13 15:52:58 <vvu> but i do mot really want to generate a new tag for each commit
May 13 15:53:17 <moto-timo> vvu: we don't have to. That was just how that developer did it
May 13 15:53:35 <vvu> ok, did not look over it into detail
May 13 15:55:17 <moto-timo> maybe we can include the deploy stuff conditionally?
May 13 15:55:22 <moto-timo> I'll have to think about it :)
May 13 15:56:29 <jkridner> alexanderhiam: I have the UTcapes with me... didn't manage to spend the time to break up the components into smaller kits.
May 13 15:56:48 <azizulhakim> going to join the meeting from a mobile device
May 13 15:56:48 <jkridner> I brought them to the Bay Area with me to try to mess with them with any spare time (ha!).
May 13 15:57:13 <moto-timo> what is this "spare time" you speak of?
May 13 15:57:13 <jkridner> azizulhakim: thanks for joining, even if over a mobile device. you are with RTEMS, right?
May 13 15:57:15 <moto-timo> lol
May 13 15:57:29 <jkridner> moto-timo: something I dream about when I manage to sleep.
May 13 15:57:31 <ankur> hendersa: Is it possible to generate device tree blob in my linux and then use it in beagle or I have to compile it in beagle only.
May 13 15:57:50 <azizulhakim> no. androd based remote display
May 13 15:58:04 <jkridner> ah.
May 13 15:58:13 <vvu> azizulhakim: i will be afk. mail if smth important
May 13 15:58:16 <_av500_> aloha
May 13 15:58:31 <_av500_> 2 min until 5min
May 13 15:58:37 <vvu> alohanet
May 13 15:58:39 <hendersa> ankur: You can compile an overlay for the device tree on any platform using "dtc".
May 13 15:58:51 <azizulhakim> will do vvu
May 13 15:58:52 <alexanderhiam> jkridner: I'd help if I was on the right coast!
May 13 15:59:36 <hendersa> ankur: If you want to build your modifications into the .dtb loaded by the bootloader, it is probably easiest to just rebuild the whole kernel (cross-compile for ARM) and pull the changed .dtb out.
May 13 15:59:48 * moto-timo imagines the AmGen tour carrying capes from San Jose to me today
May 13 16:00:39 <hendersa> ankur: If you just compile the overlay with dtc outside of the kernel source, you won't have to build the kernel.
May 13 16:01:20 <ankur> hendersa: is it required to rebuild the kernel. what if i want to use dtb without recompiling the kernel?
May 13 16:01:33 <arianepaola> Hello everybody
May 13 16:01:55 <_av500_> 4 min
May 13 16:02:04 <hendersa> ankur: It is not required to build the kernel to generate the main .dtb loaded by the bootloader or a .dtbo overlay.
May 13 16:02:43 <hendersa> ankur: It is easier to build the .dtb as part of the kernel build process, since most of it is in the kernel source. You can still build the .dtb independently of the kernel, though.
May 13 16:03:11 <hendersa> ankur: I believe rcn has a build script in his BBB kernel build tools that will build just the .dtb for you.
May 13 16:03:40 <ankur> hendersa: can you provide some references where i can read about it
May 13 16:04:14 <ds2> ..
May 13 16:04:36 <_av500_> 1 min
May 13 16:04:53 <hendersa> ankur: https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-LinuxKernel
May 13 16:05:01 * apaar checks in a minute early :P
May 13 16:05:21 <hendersa> ankur: Read about how the kernel tools are checked out and look at the .sh scripts included in those tools.
May 13 16:05:40 <_av500_> _MEETING STARTS_
May 13 16:05:42 <_av500_> :)
May 13 16:05:46 <_av500_> welcome everybody
May 13 16:05:59 <ankur> ok
May 13 16:06:01 <rohith_> Hi!
May 13 16:06:03 <_av500_> may I ask everybody to keep the chatter during the meeting down
May 13 16:06:31 <_av500_> all students here?
May 13 16:06:51 <imuguruza> Hi
May 13 16:07:18 <_av500_> anybody else?
May 13 16:07:20 <arianepaola> hi
May 13 16:07:21 <rohith_> imuguruza: Hello Inigo!
May 13 16:07:27 <apaar> i am here :)
May 13 16:07:36 <ankur> hi
May 13 16:08:23 <_av500_> neem0 ebadawy azizulhakim
May 13 16:08:32 <moto-timo> arianepaola: ping?
May 13 16:08:41 <arianepaola> pong moto-timo
May 13 16:08:42 <_av500_> is here
May 13 16:09:01 <_av500_> neem0 ebadawy azizulhakim  ping
May 13 16:09:02 <azizulhakim> av500
May 13 16:09:06 <moto-timo> oh font too dark to read. Thanks
May 13 16:09:30 <_av500_> five so far
May 13 16:09:38 <_av500_> neem0 ebadawy ping
May 13 16:10:14 <alexanderhiam> neemo perhaps
May 13 16:10:25 <_av500_> he was here before
May 13 16:10:27 <neem0> Herw
May 13 16:10:30 <neem0> Here
May 13 16:10:32 <_av500_> six
May 13 16:10:43 <neem0> A bit laggy and slow on the keyboard since I'm on mobile
May 13 16:10:50 <_av500_> k
May 13 16:10:52 <_av500_> lets start
May 13 16:10:53 <neem0> But I'm all ears
May 13 16:11:03 <ebadawy> _av500_ here
May 13 16:11:07 <_av500_> I hope everybody got my artfully crafted email
May 13 16:11:11 <_av500_> ebadawy: hi
May 13 16:11:14 <_av500_> ok, missing one
May 13 16:11:16 <_av500_> not bad
May 13 16:11:39 <_av500_> basically we are still in the bonding period
May 13 16:11:40 <arianepaola> yes, got it
May 13 16:11:49 <ankur> got it
May 13 16:11:51 <apaar> got the mail
May 13 16:11:53 <neem0> In
May 13 16:11:54 <_av500_> make sure you talk to your mentors and get all you need to get started
May 13 16:12:02 <_av500_> I see you doing that here
May 13 16:12:15 <_av500_> next topic, enter your project in the elinux wiki
May 13 16:12:44 <_av500_> two have done so, six to go
May 13 16:12:54 <_av500_> please try to do that until next week
May 13 16:13:22 <_av500_> any questions about that?
May 13 16:13:50 <arianepaola> ok
May 13 16:13:53 <ebadawy> _av500_ the videos is due to next week also?
May 13 16:13:54 <neem0> No special permission needed to edit elinux?
May 13 16:13:59 <_av500_> just an account
May 13 16:14:03 <arianepaola> yes
May 13 16:14:06 <neem0> K
May 13 16:14:13 <_av500_> ebadawy: video is due when coding starts
May 13 16:14:23 <_av500_> so 1-2 weeks
May 13 16:14:39 <_av500_> if you have issues with elinux accounts, tell me
May 13 16:14:44 <_av500_> I can bribe the admin
May 13 16:14:53 <rohith_> :p
May 13 16:15:01 <ankur> :)
May 13 16:15:11 <_av500_> for the video, it can be a screencast too
May 13 16:15:18 <_av500_> so no acting career needed
May 13 16:15:20 <karki_> _av500_ : I shall not accept bribes ;)
May 13 16:15:39 <_av500_> you have all the past year videos as references
May 13 16:15:49 <moto-timo> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2015_Projects
May 13 16:16:00 <neem0> Lol karki_
May 13 16:16:02 <_av500_> past years
May 13 16:16:33 <ebadawy> _av500_ for the video who are the audience that i am targeting ,, is it the beagleboard community ?
May 13 16:16:45 <_av500_> ebadawy: I would say so
May 13 16:16:48 <_av500_> people interested
May 13 16:16:56 <_av500_> so no need to start from 0
May 13 16:17:12 <ebadawy> _av500_ great
May 13 16:17:51 <_av500_> put a link to beagleboard.org in the comments/content
May 13 16:18:03 <jkridner> _av500_: agreed. no need to say what a BeagleBone Black is. :)
May 13 16:18:15 <_av500_> and you are free to say that the BBB is an awesome little computer :)
May 13 16:18:49 <ebadawy> sure :)
May 13 16:19:17 <_av500_> ok
May 13 16:19:29 <_av500_> next topic
May 13 16:19:31 <_av500_> blogs
May 13 16:19:40 <_av500_> or not
May 13 16:19:51 <_av500_> and weekly reports
May 13 16:20:08 <neem0> Yes?
May 13 16:20:15 <_av500_> I have no strong demands that people keep a blog
May 13 16:20:25 <_av500_> as long as I get my progress reports every tuesday
May 13 16:20:56 <neem0> I vote for both, if you want to blog do it
May 13 16:21:03 <ds2> but having one can help with cross pollenation
May 13 16:21:05 <_av500_> it might help you to keep one as a place to drop content
May 13 16:21:25 <ds2> esp. for problems/issues
May 13 16:21:39 <ankur> ya blogs would be great
May 13 16:21:42 <arianepaola> yes
May 13 16:21:56 <alexanderhiam> last year the status reports often came in during the weekly meeting, which slowed things down. Post them on time!
May 13 16:22:01 <_av500_> yes
May 13 16:22:04 <_av500_> TUESDAY
May 13 16:22:15 <_av500_> any time zone
May 13 16:22:27 <_av500_> that makse sure they are there for the wednesday meeting
May 13 16:22:46 <ankur> roger that
May 13 16:22:55 <arianepaola> okk
May 13 16:23:31 <_av500_> as for blogs, its great if you keep one
May 13 16:24:08 <neem0> Tuesdays it is,  maybe even Mondays to avoid the perils of the Great Firewall
May 13 16:24:12 <neem0> Or so I'll try
May 13 16:24:42 <_av500_> neem0: you can also mail to our shenzhen office :)
May 13 16:24:51 <_av500_> ok
May 13 16:24:59 <_av500_> I see jkridner is mailing out tracking numbers
May 13 16:25:03 <ds2> _av500_: I assume the converse also applies - do not wait til Tue to bring up any blocking issues, right?
May 13 16:25:10 <_av500_> exactly
May 13 16:25:12 <jkridner> _av500_: yeah, trying.
May 13 16:25:17 <neem0> Ha,  wouldn't that be cool XD
May 13 16:25:23 <rohith_> jkridner: Received the email
May 13 16:25:25 <_av500_> blocking issues should be brought up with your mentor as early as possible
May 13 16:25:26 <moto-timo> when stuck, speak up... we are here to help
May 13 16:25:34 <_av500_> indeed
May 13 16:26:04 <moto-timo> we have all banged our heads through brick walls many many times
May 13 16:26:37 <moto-timo> walls lose :)
May 13 16:26:38 <_av500_> and have the scars to prove it :)
May 13 16:27:26 <_av500_> ok, so I'm though with my topics for today
May 13 16:27:31 <_av500_> through
May 13 16:27:31 * anujdeshpande is late to the party
May 13 16:27:46 <_av500_> I will post minutes
May 13 16:27:52 <_av500_> any other questions?
May 13 16:28:09 <arianepaola> is there a fedex tracking number?
May 13 16:28:16 <arianepaola> I think not
May 13 16:28:19 <_av500_> I see jkridner is mailing out tracking numbers
May 13 16:28:25 <arianepaola> yes
May 13 16:28:26 <arianepaola> great
May 13 16:28:41 <moto-timo> arianepaola: vvu has made progress on osx kext
May 13 16:29:04 <moto-timo> arianepaola: and we are working on deploying via travis-ci/github
May 13 16:29:13 <moto-timo> one less thing to worry about :)
May 13 16:29:26 <_av500_> any other issues not specific to a project?
May 13 16:29:28 <arianepaola> yes, I am looking it."
May 13 16:29:49 <_av500_> jkridner: anything I forgot?
May 13 16:29:51 <arianepaola> moto-timo: where is the travis-ci instance?
May 13 16:29:56 <_av500_> arianepaola: sshhh
May 13 16:30:15 * moto-timo looks sheepish
May 13 16:30:17 <jkridner> _av500_: hmmm.... making sure work is showing up on http://builds.beagleboard.org?
May 13 16:30:47 <_av500_> jkridner: erm?
May 13 16:30:53 <jkridner> I think making sure we have git repos that enable us to autobuild all the work will be critical for the mentors keeping up with the student activity in the easiest ways.
May 13 16:31:04 <jkridner> for node stuff, travis-ci, etc.
May 13 16:31:13 <arianepaola> yes
May 13 16:31:21 <jkridner> _av500_: I'm just thinking aloud a bit maybe....
May 13 16:31:25 <_av500_> jkridner: ok.
May 13 16:31:38 <jkridner> just wanting to align with students/mentors on autobuilding.
May 13 16:31:42 <_av500_> jkridner: I would ask the mentors of these projects to make sure of that
May 13 16:31:46 <jkridner> so that mentors don't go crazy.
May 13 16:31:49 <_av500_> but I will add a note
May 13 16:31:50 <jkridner> _av500_: k.
May 13 16:32:09 <jkridner> also, if I'm needed to ship anything besides BBBs....
May 13 16:32:13 <jkridner> I know there are lots of requests...
May 13 16:32:18 <jkridner> but they are difficult for me to manage.
May 13 16:32:33 * jkridner is in the middle of some shipping disaster recovery right now.
May 13 16:32:54 <_av500_> jkridner: I expect students /mentors of these projects to speek up
May 13 16:32:59 <_av500_> speak even
May 13 16:33:47 <moto-timo> as far as I know, travis-ci.org is the only site with osx VM available to build the osx kext
May 13 16:34:15 <moto-timo> ...can we link the output to build.beagleboard.org???
May 13 16:34:26 <moto-timo> s/build/builds/
May 13 16:35:52 <jkridner> moto-timo: not sure how.
May 13 16:36:01 * moto-timo investigates :)
May 13 16:36:12 <_av500_> ok
May 13 16:36:22 <_av500_> I conclude the business part of the meeting is over
May 13 16:36:39 <ds2> wow short
May 13 16:36:49 <anujdeshpande> ankur: since we have an option of a blog or not, whatchya got in mind?
May 13 16:37:33 <ankur> I will make a blog.
May 13 16:37:50 <jkridner> moto-timo: don't we need to sign the kext?
May 13 16:38:04 <jkridner> moto-timo: I have a headache right now getting a DUNS, but working on it.
May 13 16:38:09 <jkridner> might be a few weeks/months.
May 13 16:38:15 <ankur> anujdeshpande: I have set up git repo. https://github.com/ankurayadav/bbbandroidHAL
May 13 16:38:44 <anujdeshpande> ankur so a gh-pages for it then ?
May 13 16:38:50 <moto-timo> jkridner: excellent. I know it's a pain, but it will be a GoodThing
May 13 16:38:58 <jkridner> DiegoTc: you around?
May 13 16:39:04 <_av500_> jkridner: he said he would miss it
May 13 16:39:06 <_av500_> and read logs
May 13 16:39:08 <jkridner> DiegoTc: you able to pull in some help from other mentors as well?
May 13 16:39:16 <ankur> anujdeshpande:yes
May 13 16:39:46 <jkridner> moto-timo: yeah, really needed. might want to make do a few weeks with someone else signing, but the .org needs to be the signer for the public release.
May 13 16:40:15 <neemo> alexanderhiam: About the mags and sensor fusion
May 13 16:40:34 <jkridner> moto-timo, vvu: I spoke with someone from Codebender yesterday that says they have an Arduino bootloader over libusb on Chromebooks.
May 13 16:41:08 <anujdeshpande> ankur: excellent :D make sure you add disqus comments as well
May 13 16:41:45 <ankur> sure
May 13 16:42:05 <neemo> alexanderhiam: Sensor fusion is planned for the project and most of the projects I've looked at use multiple sensors (eg. mag, photodiods etc) for positioning
May 13 16:42:07 <moto-timo> jkridner: I have no problem temporarily signing during development
May 13 16:42:56 * moto-timo makes note to apply for signing certificate
May 13 16:43:12 <neemo> alexanderhiam: the PNI sensor is around $61 and I've added it as the dedicated magnetometer sensor, because it is referenced in the research I've based the work from
May 13 16:44:00 <neemo> technically it isn't required but It'll give another oportunity to test the algorithms with different hardware and compare it to the research already done.
May 13 16:44:10 <anujdeshpande> ankur were you able to get an account elinux for http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2015_Projects
May 13 16:44:42 <ankur> not done yet still pending :(
May 13 16:45:12 <ankur> creating account now
May 13 16:45:40 <anujdeshpande> make sure you do it before the next meeting though :-P (beware the fury of the org admin)
May 13 16:45:56 <moto-timo> jkdriner: Chromebook bootloader sounds good. Now that I have a Chromebook :)
May 13 16:46:20 <ankur> :)
May 13 16:47:35 <ankur> anujdeshpande: seems that i had already registered earlier
May 13 16:47:45 <anujdeshpande> hah
May 13 16:48:27 * nerdboy almost caught up...
May 13 16:48:49 <nerdboy> moin
May 13 16:49:54 * moto-timo goes afk
May 13 16:50:27 <moto-timo> I love functional testing of firmware. Keep saying it until it's true.
May 13 17:08:18 <_av500_> arianepaola: see email
May 13 17:27:27 <Abhishek_> jkridner: How is a BB-BONE-LCD7-01 cape supposed to be loaded "virtually"?
May 13 17:28:30 <jkridner> Abhishek_: what do you mean by "virtually"?
May 13 17:28:34 <jkridner> do you mean automatically?
May 13 17:28:41 <jkridner> or, are you trying to load it without the cape installed?
May 13 17:28:53 <Abhishek_> w/o the cape installed
May 13 17:29:04 <jkridner> config-pin overlay BB-BONE-LCD7-01 should do the trick.
May 13 17:29:19 * jkridner isn't sure about the version numbering aspect.
May 13 17:29:31 <Abhishek_> the problem is that there is no BB-*LCD7-01-00A0.dtbo
May 13 17:29:47 <Abhishek_> there's -A1.dtbo, A4.dtbo in /lib/firmware but not
May 13 17:31:40 <Abhishek_> to get the LCD working, I need to remove the existing HDMI cape, right?
May 13 17:32:29 <Abhishek_> rcn-ee: running an older image with the 3.8.13 kernel, what do I need to get done to load the LCD cape overlay on startup?
May 13 17:34:02 <rcn-ee> Abhishek_, if it's built-in, just add it to /boot/uEnv.txt (capemgr.enable_partno=BB-BONE-LCD...)
May 13 17:35:15 <Abhishek_> and if it's not, I need to build the initramfs, what are the commands to do that?
May 13 17:37:07 <rcn-ee> Abhishek_, first make sure "bb-customizations" is installed, it has an extra cp *.dtbo's in to initrd.img script..
May 13 17:37:22 <rcn-ee> then just: sudo update-initramfs -u -k `uname -r`
May 13 17:39:14 <rcn-ee> jkridner, i'm running out of capes to test (and write *.dts) with the v4.1 overlay..  (found a few more on ebay..) do you have any not on this list? https://github.com/RobertCNelson/bb.org-overlays/tree/master/src/arm
May 13 17:39:50 <jkridner> rcn-ee: CircuitCo is sending me a bunch that I will forward and I have a big case of them I can monkey with when I get home.
May 13 17:40:13 <rcn-ee> that's sweet of them! ;)
May 13 17:40:27 <jkridner> BeagleBoard.org paid for them.
May 13 17:40:54 <rcn-ee> oh, i thought it was the goodness of their heart. ;)
May 13 17:40:57 <jkridner> bacon, mini-display, etc. etc.
May 13 17:41:02 <jkridner> :-)
May 13 17:41:32 <jkridner> I bought 20 of everything they had laying around. I think it included BeBoPr. Bunches of them don't have EEPROMs.
May 13 17:43:54 <Abhishek_> jkridner: is there a LCD7 cape in there?
May 13 17:44:15 <jkridner> no.
May 13 17:44:23 <jkridner> I do have an LCD7 at home.
May 13 17:45:04 <jkridner> but, the LCD7s ship out pretty quick, whereas they have a bunch they haven't really figured out how to get distributors to buy (or they haven't figured out how to take orders and ship them, one of those).
May 13 17:45:21 <Abhishek_> jkridner: http://s25.postimg.org/r7i5nlzst/IMG_20150512_014113_HDR.jpg
May 13 17:46:11 <Abhishek_> jkridner: This is the cape I assembled, I'm currently testing with a 7" LCD with it
May 13 17:46:21 <jkridner> sweet.
May 13 17:46:52 <jkridner> Abhishek_: found some cheap LCDs?
May 13 17:46:54 <Abhishek_> As of now, I only see a white screen. Need to load that overlay
May 13 17:47:13 <Abhishek_> yeah, have attached one
May 13 17:49:24 <jkridner> Abhishek_: getting an error?
May 13 17:49:52 <Abhishek_> dunno, currently only the HDMI cape is there, dunno if I should see something on the screen
May 13 17:50:00 <jkridner> _av500_, beng-nl: I think I finished sending out tracking numbers to all students and mentors who provided info by my deadline.
May 13 17:50:16 * Abhishek_ received his tracking number a few mins ago
May 13 17:50:20 <jkridner> _av500_, beng-nl: arianepaola should be the only student who does not have a board on the way.
May 13 17:50:32 <rcn-ee> Abhishek_, did you disable the hdmi cape? pastebin.com "dmesg | grep cape"
May 13 17:51:36 <Abhishek_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Z0HV7Y3X
May 13 17:52:28 <jkridner> 20 shipments in all. felt like a lot more than that.
May 13 17:53:03 <Abhishek_> does fedex give discounts on bulk shipments?
May 13 17:53:35 <Abhishek_> rcn-ee: pastebin above
May 13 17:54:12 <jkridner> BB-BONELT-HDMIN conflict P8.45 (#5:BB-BONELT-HDMI)
May 13 17:54:34 <jkridner> Abhishek_: yes, but they have different ideas of bulk. :)
May 13 17:54:56 <rcn-ee> Abhishek_, are you sure it's 00A0, that was buggy. .;) echo "'BB-BONE-LCD7-01:00A0" > (slots) or 00A1/00A2/00A3... but make sure you disable both hdmi's..
May 13 17:55:10 <rcn-ee> note the ":" to speicy very..
May 13 17:55:36 <ebadawy> jkridner _av500_ ping
May 13 17:55:51 <jkridner> ebadawy: please jump strait to questions, not pings. :)
May 13 17:56:46 <ebadawy> ok ,, sorry :) ,, just want to ask if the fedex number is specifically for my shipment or it is a general one
May 13 17:57:20 <beng-nl> just yours
May 13 17:57:45 <beng-nl> it goes to the shipping address you gave presumably? (fedex tracking)
May 13 17:57:57 <ebadawy> when should I contact them?
May 13 18:00:44 <Abhishek_> rcn-ee, okay, how to get it load on boot then?
May 13 18:00:50 <jkridner> ebadawy: it is just for your shipment
May 13 18:01:01 <Abhishek_> The BB-BONE-LCD7-01:00A4 loads
May 13 18:01:23 <apaar> ebadawy: http://www.fedex.com/in/domestic/track/ use this link to track
May 13 18:01:48 <ebadawy> oh sorry got confused ,, thought it is a telephone number! thanks for help :)
May 13 18:01:51 <jkridner> ebadawy: don't know if you need to, but if you do, you should have the info you need to reach out to them as needed and be able to see the information as to the shipping stage.
May 13 18:02:12 <jkridner> apaar: I think ebadawy is in Egypt.
May 13 18:02:21 <rcn-ee> Abhishek_, http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Loading_custom_capes ? that'll work for may 2014 and newer..
May 13 18:03:04 <ebadawy> jkrinder: yea ,, I'm in Egypt
May 13 18:05:37 <Abhishek_> okay, I seem to be able to load that cape, and I see the screen flicker randomly
May 13 18:11:35 <_av500_> jkridner: the 4367 zip code looks good to me
May 13 18:12:57 <ds2> Abhishek_: they go by accounts
May 13 18:24:42 <ketul> jkridner and beng-nl: thanks a lot for your support. :)
May 13 18:24:58 <jkridner> _av500_: if it is, Fedex won't ship there.
May 13 18:25:12 <jkridner> I need to ship somewhere else and have them forward or something.
May 13 18:34:45 <Abhishek_> jkridner: rcn-ee: Where could I find an explanation of the attributes here: https://github.com/jadonk/cape-firmware/blob/master/arch/arm/boot/dts/BB-BONE-LCD7-01-00A3.dts
May 13 18:35:11 <jkridner> Abhishek_: probably in the driver source.
May 13 18:35:17 <jkridner> perhaps in the kernel documentation.
May 13 18:37:52 <jkridner> Abhishek_: https://github.com/beagleboard/linux/blob/3.14/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/drm/tilcdc/tilcdc.txt
May 13 18:39:46 <ds2> this cannot be good - I/System.out(27600): STOP
May 13 18:42:12 <ds2> amazing how one little mail from Gerald can brighten your day
May 13 18:47:58 <nerdboy> that was quick...
May 13 18:48:16 * nerdboy received bbb this morning
May 13 19:29:50 <jkridner> ds2: how do you mean?
May 13 19:30:00 <ds2> hmm?
May 13 19:48:28 <nerdboy> neemo: what's the status on the magetometer part?
May 13 20:00:13 <_av500_> Magneto-Meter!
May 13 20:01:34 <alexanderhiam> magenta-meter?
May 13 20:05:20 <alexanderhiam> _av500_: fyi I may miss next weeks meeting
May 13 20:05:26 <_av500_> omg
May 13 20:05:27 <_av500_> :)
May 13 20:05:30 <_av500_> ok, no prob
May 13 20:06:19 <alexanderhiam> hopefully the whole of GSoC won't come crashing down without me
May 13 20:07:34 <alexanderhiam> I will be in Amsterdam. Anyone know of any cool hackerspaces or the likes that I should check out if I have some spare time?
May 13 20:08:06 <_av500_> they call them "coffee shops"
May 13 20:08:23 <alexanderhiam> :P
May 13 20:09:04 <alexanderhiam> I don't think I'd do well in the "coffee shops"
May 13 22:44:53 <Abhishek_> display showing random stuff and flickers, better but still more to go\
May 14 00:11:56 <vvu> moto-timo: so will you sign the kext for the summer ?
May 14 00:12:25 <vvu> i am planning to change a lot of the bbblfs...mainly rename to beagleboot and make a unified interface for linux, osx and win
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