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May 07 05:27:49 <ZeekHuge> Okay so the rproc is working on 4.1.18-ti-r55.
May 07 05:27:59 <ZeekHuge> http://paste.debian.net/682687/
May 07 05:28:08 <ZeekHuge> Wormo, ds2 ^^
May 07 05:28:30 <ZeekHuge> But that automatically loads on boot
May 07 05:28:57 <ZeekHuge> and I havnt still found a way to load it without boot.
May 07 05:30:26 <ZeekHuge> and i am unable to rmmod it, as they are being used.
May 07 07:15:27 <Wormo> ZeekHuge: I see a TI doc that shows rmmod -f, though normally I'm hesitant to force unload
May 07 07:15:33 <Wormo> http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/PRU_Training:_Hands-on_Labs#Boot_the_new_device_tree_and_FS_on_the_Target
May 07 07:16:20 <Wormo> heading out for now, ltr
May 07 07:20:48 <ZeekHuge> Wormo: Okay, Will try. Also, I can get a function generator with max 10MHz, so will that be enough for testing purposes ?
May 07 07:21:19 <ZeekHuge> ds2: ^^
May 07 13:07:32 <chanakya_vc> Anyone who has completed the video?
May 07 13:08:34 <chanakya_vc> ZeekHuge, Visaoni ^^
May 07 13:08:51 <ZeekHuge> Not yet.
May 07 13:10:18 <chanakya_vc> ZeekHuge, Using Vlc?
May 07 13:11:23 <ZeekHuge> I haven't decided that either, but i dont think that will be big problem. If it will anyway cause problem, I will just use my friends windows PC.
May 07 13:14:36 <chanakya_vc> Zeekhuge,Whenever you start do tell me the software you are using.
May 07 13:15:19 <ZeekHuge> sure :)
May 07 13:16:51 <chanakya_vc> And we should add the others to the GSOC fb group.
May 07 13:17:14 <chanakya_vc> Zeekhuge ,pmzydlo and the rest.
May 07 13:19:43 <ZeekHuge> Yep, for that we need to be friend with them ;)
May 07 13:21:21 <chanakya_vc> Yes I will send a request to pmzydlo. I think I found him on fb.
May 07 13:21:50 <chanakya_vc> But I have no idea about the rest.
May 07 13:24:38 <chanakya_vc> ZeekHuge, Although I am not sure if he really knows my real name ;) I will have to catch him online.
May 07 13:25:51 <ZeekHuge> I have added amr there in the group already.
May 07 13:54:23 <chanakya_vc> ZeekHuge, That's great! That leaves kiran and Viasoni I guess
May 07 15:58:01 <kiran4399> Hi there!! alexhiam: ping :-)
May 07 17:48:51 <nerdboy> recordmydesktop should be fine
May 07 17:49:20 <ZeekHuge> ds2: will a function generator with max 10Mhz be sufficient to test the project ?
May 07 17:50:53 <ZeekHuge> also, how can we use ctags ? with sublime ? there are ways to that on google, but they seem to be buggy, and while coding I really dont want to get into a bug from other project.
May 07 17:51:04 <ZeekHuge> nerdboy: ^^
May 07 17:51:42 <nerdboy> tried atom?
May 07 17:52:32 <nerdboy> vim has all the features you need, but i don't use it enough
May 07 17:53:24 <nerdboy> maybe she'd ^^ be willing to vim-tut the students...  if you ask nice...
May 07 17:54:47 <ZeekHuge> ohk, but vim is less user friendly
May 07 17:55:08 <Wormo> it's developer friendly
May 07 17:55:25 <Wormo> and you're a developer sort of user
May 07 17:56:17 <ZeekHuge> I tried learning it using vimtutor, but never actually used. Should i go on for that ?
May 07 17:56:57 <ZeekHuge> Wormo: also, will a frequency generator with max 10Mhz be sufficient for the testing purpose ?
May 07 17:58:51 <Wormo> I'd say yes to both, 10MHz will help you see its working
May 07 17:59:45 <Wormo> someone with access to a higher speed freq generator will likely be able to run a test for you at that point
May 07 18:00:28 <Wormo> to verify its limits which can be estimated from the instruction counting like in your proposal
May 07 18:01:32 <Wormo> more embedded devs seem to use vim than others btw, in my admittedly informal and small polls
May 07 18:01:50 <ZeekHuge> Okay :) I'll try vim.
May 07 18:02:02 <Wormo> various flavors of vi are the most likely to be installed on any target
May 07 18:03:12 <Wormo> so while it may be a little frustrating to be limited down from enhanced vim when messing around with plain vi on a target board, it's still fairly comfortable
May 07 18:06:47 <Wormo> http://vctlabs.com/posts/2005/Feb/24/vim_basics_cheatsheet/
May 07 18:11:06 <Wormo> (there is a cut-down emacs that Linus uses for embedded, but I've never seen that come installed on an embedded board)
May 07 18:11:21 <Wormo> http://git.kernel.org/cgit/editors/uemacs/uemacs.git
May 07 18:13:28 <ZeekHuge> well, if I there was something to be coded on the BBB, i use sshfs and then open it up in sublime.
May 07 18:16:27 <ZeekHuge> *if there was
May 07 18:23:30 <Wormo> I've worked on products that don't even have an ethernet port
May 07 18:24:28 <Wormo> let alone times troubleshooting when network is down
May 07 18:26:22 <ZeekHuge> oh. yes it will be useful in that case. okay I'll start with vim.
May 07 18:27:02 * ZeekHuge thinks - there is so much to learn from everyone here ...
May 07 18:27:28 <Wormo> I've helped a friend get comfortable with vim through shared shell session, i.e. tmux or GNU screen
May 07 18:29:37 <ZeekHuge> It will be my pleasure to learn from you. But, as I dont want to appear like a dumb fool, I'll first revise some basic commands and then ask for your help. :)
May 07 18:30:31 <Wormo> that's fine, but note that newbie != fool, you're here bcs you're a promising learner not a fool ;)
May 07 18:33:37 <Wormo> btw other big reason vim is nice: it's an apt-get/yum/emerge/whatever away, no mucking about with paperwork requesting employer to buy licenses for you (I'd have to do that if I wanted to use a commercial editor at work)
May 07 18:35:12 <Wormo> "an" other big reason, since I also like using free software whenever reasonable...
May 07 18:38:22 <ZeekHuge> Yep. I am always eager and always learning.
May 07 18:38:40 <chanakya_vc> Wormo, Okay this might sound a little trivial,but vim is basically a editor for writing code right?
May 07 18:38:50 <chanakya_vc> ZeekHuge, ^^
May 07 18:39:02 <ZeekHuge> yes
May 07 18:39:03 <Wormo> it's an editor which is good for writing code, but just as good for docs
May 07 18:39:07 <ZeekHuge> its a text editor
May 07 18:39:19 <chanakya_vc> Just like Sublime?
May 07 18:39:24 <ZeekHuge> so basically it has lots of command
May 07 18:39:38 <Wormo> command-line one, can run it a lot more places than sublime
May 07 18:39:53 <ZeekHuge> sublime is very natural.
May 07 18:40:01 <ZeekHuge> vim is not that natural.
May 07 18:40:07 <Wormo> anywhere that isn't to teeny-tiny to run a fancy editor
May 07 18:40:45 <chanakya_vc> Wormo, So no other advantage over Sublime?
May 07 18:40:54 <ZeekHuge> and have good support for ctags.
May 07 18:41:14 <ZeekHuge> It makes you feel like a real coder ;)
May 07 18:42:04 <Wormo> chanakya_vc: I don't use sublime, since I do prefer free software when there is a reasonable (in this case excellent) choice
May 07 18:42:32 <chanakya_vc> Okay.Ctags basically allow us to locate functions right?
May 07 18:42:34 <Wormo> so I could speculate on other things, but the freedom to run where you please is what I actually *know*
May 07 18:42:38 <chanakya_vc> Sublime is free
May 07 18:42:40 <ZeekHuge> and make your friends afraid of watching your screen, as they would think, you are hacking or something.
May 07 18:42:48 <Wormo> it's not Free/Open
May 07 18:42:54 <chanakya_vc> :D :D
May 07 18:43:06 <Wormo> and I think you're supposed to pay for a license after trial, no?
May 07 18:43:10 <chanakya_vc> Yes it is not open source
May 07 18:43:16 <chanakya_vc> No you don't
May 07 18:43:35 <ZeekHuge> Wormo: The trial period is not limited.
May 07 18:43:35 <chanakya_vc> I have been using it for over an year now ;0
May 07 18:43:48 <chanakya_vc> * :)
May 07 18:44:03 <chanakya_vc> ZeekHuge, What do you prefer?
May 07 18:44:11 <ZeekHuge> It only asks you "Do you want to buy sublime", sometimes when you press ctrl+s
May 07 18:44:25 <ZeekHuge> As of now, sublime is the best !
May 07 18:44:36 <ZeekHuge> Not sure about the future.
May 07 18:45:17 <chanakya_vc> Okay but I heard that the debate between using  Vim and I guess emacs is always there?
May 07 18:45:33 <chanakya_vc> Like amongst coders.
May 07 18:45:59 <Wormo> I can't answer that one in general, only that there is a nudge toward vim for embedded Linux devs due to builtin target support
May 07 18:45:59 <ZeekHuge> Yes. Its been long going on. And we might get in between saying "What about sublime people ?" ;)
May 07 18:46:42 <Wormo> and I work with a good embedded dev who does vi on target & emacs on desktop
May 07 18:47:13 <ZeekHuge> I'll get back to work, and will try to get my hands on vim.
May 07 18:47:25 <Wormo> ok ttyl
May 07 18:48:45 <ZeekHuge> Wormo: one more question: So I should start with vim or vi ?
May 07 18:49:23 <Wormo> it doesn't matter if you're just learning basic navigation
May 07 18:50:00 <Wormo> we can do recording macros and columnn editing later, then it will be vim
May 07 18:55:35 <chanakya_vc> Wormo, I would also like to learn vim(I have zero experience or idea about it). Will follow your directions. :)
May 07 18:56:08 <Wormo> good plan, it will pay off in on-target editing
May 07 18:56:42 <chanakya_vc> I guess the first step would be to install it :)
May 07 18:56:44 <Wormo> basic skills for hacking when network is not available yet
May 07 18:56:45 <Wormo> yup
May 07 18:57:27 <nerdboy> isn't it busybox vi by default?
May 07 18:57:55 <Wormo> isn't what busybox vi, vi on BBB?
May 07 18:58:12 <nerdboy> the mini-embedded one you get on random devices
May 07 18:58:20 <Wormo> yes that's common
May 07 18:58:29 <chanakya_vc> Wormo, Also,I have this basic doubt. A lot of mentors have mentioned stuff like checkpatch to avoid whitespace errors. Now is this  available on vim by default?
May 07 18:59:00 <Wormo> checkpatch is a script, you can run it inside or outside vim
May 07 18:59:09 <chanakya_vc> And vim can be used on the BBB also? Like if we were to write code natively on it?
May 07 18:59:41 <Wormo> vi is on the BBB, the flavor depends on what image you use
May 07 18:59:41 <nerdboy> yup
May 07 18:59:55 <nerdboy> you can even have gvim
May 07 19:00:14 <chanakya_vc> Okay vi must be terminal based like nano?
May 07 19:00:16 <Wormo> ubuntu or debian for BBB has vim available, so does OE image if my friend Geoff builds it
May 07 19:00:33 <Wormo> yes it's terminal based, but there  is a window flavor too called gvim
May 07 19:01:16 <chanakya_vc> gvim is the GUI version I presume?
May 07 19:01:18 <nerdboy> for people who must have shiny buttons
May 07 19:01:29 <Wormo> yes
May 07 19:01:31 <chanakya_vc> ohh nerdboy :)
May 07 19:03:32 <Wormo> the main thing you've never seen before is editing with "modes" which is a convenient way to deal with kbd-only case once you're used to it
May 07 19:04:21 <chanakya_vc> Wormo, Again a very silly question: I have used BBB only via ssh so far.And in that we can only access stuff via the terminal.Now this is unlike the Raspberry PI where if you attach a screen you get GUI.
May 07 19:04:28 <Wormo> for those who have wrist overuse problems (hopefully not true already for you students...) sticking with a comfortable kbd and skipping mouse/trackpad often is a win
May 07 19:04:55 <chanakya_vc> So how will gvim run on the BBB?
May 07 19:05:13 <Wormo> BBB over ssh is probably quite good for your project, since there is no gui work involved
May 07 19:05:33 <Wormo> you *could* get the BBB set up like an RPi with it's own display and kbd
May 07 19:05:44 <nerdboy> you can have bbb desktop if you want
May 07 19:05:51 <ZeekHuge> chanakya_vc: sometimes, sshfs can be helpful.
May 07 19:05:53 <Wormo> or you could run gvim remotely via vnc
May 07 19:06:03 <Wormo> or you could run it over ssh forwarding
May 07 19:06:04 <nerdboy> default emmc install is debian/lxde
May 07 19:06:30 <Wormo> or you could just run tmux with non-g vim
May 07 19:06:41 <Wormo> a tmux, stateful terminal session
May 07 19:06:55 <nerdboy> hook up keyboard/mouse/display even
May 07 19:07:21 <ZeekHuge> haha :)
May 07 19:07:52 <Wormo> sshfs is fine, but not for running native commands
May 07 19:08:20 <Wormo> so sometimes an ssh session with just occasional on-target editing is more convenient
May 07 19:08:27 <chanakya_vc> Wormo, Okay I did not know about all this. Actually I have never seen people using GUI for BBB.
May 07 19:08:28 <Wormo> a mix of bothe!
May 07 19:08:33 <nerdboy> take one of the rcn rootfs tarballs (either debian or ubuntu) and apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
May 07 19:09:12 <nerdboy> i guess debian would be lxde-meta-something
May 07 19:09:20 <chanakya_vc> nerdboy, This images are  GUI ?like raspbian?
May 07 19:09:27 <Wormo> yes
May 07 19:09:33 <nerdboy> it's a rootfs
May 07 19:09:46 <Wormo> once you install the desktop using package manager
May 07 19:09:47 <nerdboy> you can download either one i think
May 07 19:10:15 <ZeekHuge> openbox is already there i think ?
May 07 19:10:16 <Wormo> I think package for debian is task-lxde-desktop
May 07 19:10:20 <nerdboy> there's a bunch of stuff linked on bb.org
May 07 19:10:20 <ZeekHuge> Isnt it ?
May 07 19:10:36 <nerdboy> i'd recommend rcn bbb page
May 07 19:10:51 <ZeekHuge> maybe in an older image.
May 07 19:10:56 <Wormo> ZeekHuge: you're prob right about openbox
May 07 19:11:21 <nerdboy> https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black
May 07 19:12:20 <nerdboy> then pick one of these => https://rcn-ee.com/rootfs/eewiki/minfs/
May 07 19:12:53 <nerdboy> make your own card, you can always fallback to emmc
May 07 19:13:23 <Wormo> I actually like not having a 2nd set of mouse/kbd/display, and use mix of ssh and serial consoles a lot
May 07 19:13:36 <nerdboy> can always flash what you like to the emmc later
May 07 19:13:46 <ZeekHuge> Wormo: +1
May 07 19:13:53 <Wormo> serial console important for all my u-boot env tweaking I end up doing
May 07 19:14:17 <nerdboy> kinda need that stuff to test firefox...
May 07 19:14:25 <ZeekHuge> I mean .. I too do not like to use extra set of keyboards and all that.
May 07 19:14:40 <Wormo> yah different kinds of development nerdboy
May 07 19:16:02 <chanakya_vc> Okay nerdboy, I am a bit confused. so i visited this page and they had ubuntu 16.04. Now correct me if I am wrong all rcn rootfs tarballs pertaining to either ubuntu or debian are all gui based?
May 07 19:16:16 <nerdboy> the minfs tarballs are small/console/ssh anyway
May 07 19:16:40 <Wormo> chanakya_vc: they are not all gui based but it doesn't matter once you have network setup
May 07 19:16:55 <nerdboy> apt-get install foo-desktop takes 800+ packages...
May 07 19:17:03 <Wormo> single apt-get will drag in what you want
May 07 19:17:54 <nerdboy> most of the images have desktop installed, the rootfs is small
May 07 19:17:56 <Wormo> http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Desktops_On_Ubuntu/Debian
May 07 19:18:18 <chanakya_vc> Okay. So I burn these to a sd card and follow the same steps as I would for using a non-gui version of debian/ubuntu?
May 07 19:18:24 <nerdboy> the tarballs have almost nothing
May 07 19:18:38 <Wormo> yes
May 07 19:18:57 <nerdboy> follow the wiki, then install what you need
May 07 19:19:32 <Wormo> what are you running now, an OpenEmbedded root? Debian? Ubuntu?
May 07 19:19:47 <chanakya_vc> Debian
May 07 19:19:57 <nerdboy> should be a required exercise for this group...
May 07 19:20:11 <ZeekHuge> Wormo: Okay so those rproc modules, I rmmod-ed pruss and then pru_rproc without force option.
May 07 19:20:26 <chanakya_vc> But I did not install it. I just borrowed one from my lab so I did not install it myself
May 07 19:20:29 <nerdboy> build u-boot, build a kernel, dump a rootfs, configure, boot
May 07 19:20:34 <Wormo> ZeekHuge: that's good, thought you said yesterday they wouldn't unloa
May 07 19:20:38 <Wormo> unload
May 07 19:21:05 <chanakya_vc> nerdboy, When would we be getting the new BBB's?
May 07 19:21:31 <Wormo> it's a much better sign if they unload without, otherwise it would sound like the module had a bug in that kernel version
May 07 19:21:34 <nerdboy> some number of days after jkridner ships them?
May 07 19:21:44 <ZeekHuge> but when I modprobed pru_rproc this is what came up :pastebin.com/EyNC5BAN
May 07 19:22:19 <ZeekHuge> Actually that was being used, but then i realized that pruss was using pru_rproc
May 07 19:22:29 <chanakya_vc> nerdboy, I think it would be good to actually install an image on them.I haven't done that.Though I might have an access to working BBB :)
May 07 19:22:39 <ZeekHuge> So therefore, first rmmod pruss and then pru_rproc
May 07 19:23:20 <nerdboy> 'install' is you + wiki page
May 07 19:23:52 <nerdboy> go through the process and you will learn
May 07 19:23:54 <Wormo> ZekeHuge so if you rmmod both,  you can modprobe without that oops?
May 07 19:24:00 <nerdboy> isn't that the point?
May 07 19:24:54 <nerdboy> dd'ing someone else's image doesn't teach you a thing
May 07 19:25:05 <nerdboy> except how slow the card is...
May 07 19:25:58 <nerdboy> ^^  mentoring  ^^
May 07 19:30:18 <Wormo> assembling an SD card image is fairly forgiving in that you don't risk bricking the board :)
May 07 19:32:13 <Wormo> when working with boards that only boot from internal storage, you want suitable jtag available before installing a new bootloader...
May 07 19:32:27 <chanakya_vc> Okay nerdboy :)
May 07 19:33:23 <chanakya_vc> Anyway got to sleep now. Bye Wormo ,Zeekhuge,nerdboy.
May 07 19:33:30 <Wormo> gnight
May 07 20:31:12 <ZeekHuge> ahh .. sorry for that disappearing ..
May 07 20:31:19 <Wormo> np
May 07 20:31:25 <ZeekHuge> Wormo: did you see those errors ?
May 07 20:32:14 <Wormo> I was asking if this came after you managed to unload pruss and pru_rproc modules
May 07 20:32:46 <ZeekHuge> yes, after unloading both of them. And then trying to load pruss.
May 07 20:33:21 <ZeekHuge> so that loading process produces these errors.
May 07 20:34:02 <Wormo> well it looks like the 4.1 version you're using has module unload bugs :/
May 07 20:34:41 <Wormo> it still may be the best version to use, having to keep rebooting to do a new test is inconvenient but not out of the question
May 07 20:35:39 <ZeekHuge> so that bug is in the kernel ? or in the rproc/pruss module ?
May 07 20:35:44 <Wormo> would be good to talk to Abhishek to see if module unloading worked on the version he was using
May 07 20:36:05 <Wormo> typically unload bug is on the module side
May 07 20:36:22 <Wormo> and we know they have been doing refactoring of the code there
May 07 20:36:31 <ZeekHuge> okay, should I raise it as an issue on github?
May 07 20:37:07 <Wormo> I'd raise it with Abhishek first, it's possible that this is a recent regression that you could even git-bisect
May 07 20:37:12 <Wormo> that would be good practice :)
May 07 20:37:42 <ZeekHuge> Okay. I'll mail him up.
May 07 20:38:24 <ZeekHuge> ds2: ^^
May 07 20:38:52 <ZeekHuge> the link to the errors: http://pastebin.com/EyNC5BAN
May 07 20:54:43 <ZeekHuge> Wormo: And the reboot command wont work on bbb . right ?
May 07 20:57:50 <Wormo> depends on the install I guess... there are images where reboot does work, is it broken on yours?
May 07 20:58:12 <Wormo> here's a workaround if so
May 07 20:58:44 <Wormo> sync && echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger
May 07 21:00:09 <Wormo> an oops like you got earlier can break shutdown/reboot
May 07 21:00:26 <ZeekHuge> ohk, trying that, btw, how to get out of that "recording and insert recording" loop, that i accidentally got into.
May 07 21:00:31 <ZeekHuge> in vim.
May 07 21:01:20 <Wormo> are you at the ': ' command line?
May 07 21:01:28 <Wormo> or just seeing 'recording' on  the status line
May 07 21:01:38 <ZeekHuge> recording in the status line
May 07 21:01:47 <Wormo> 'q' key is what turns it on and off
May 07 21:02:08 <Wormo> so just hit 'q' again if you're not trying to  record, no harm done
May 07 21:02:33 <ZeekHuge> got it :) esc + q
May 07 21:02:36 <ZeekHuge> works.
May 07 21:02:59 <ZeekHuge> I was pressing escape and q , but not in the correct order.
May 07 21:03:05 <Wormo> ah ok
May 07 21:05:11 <ZeekHuge> Cool ! restarting bbb worked !
May 07 21:05:26 <ZeekHuge> Will that work even after oops ?
May 07 21:05:44 <Wormo> yes, it's a big hammer
May 07 21:06:04 <Wormo> if you've got a shell still to run the 'echo' it almost always works
May 07 21:06:33 <ZeekHuge> ohk so its an interrupt request ?
May 07 21:06:42 <ZeekHuge> what all i can do with it ?
May 07 21:06:54 <Wormo> sysrq is a fun thing to look at, yes!
May 07 21:06:56 <ZeekHuge> i tried cat, but it shows error.
May 07 21:07:17 <ZeekHuge> so what all can i echo into it ?
May 07 21:07:27 <Wormo> echo h > /proc/sysrq-trigger
May 07 21:07:36 <Wormo> and then the help comes out in dmesg
May 07 21:07:54 <Wormo> because it's the kernel answering directly
May 07 21:08:52 <ZeekHuge> okay ! that cool !
May 07 21:08:56 <Wormo> I've done product running out of initramfs where used 'echo o' as poweroff
May 07 21:09:26 <ZeekHuge> so its not what actually "shutdown" command does ?
May 07 21:09:27 <Wormo> no point taking time to shut userspace things down if they are all transient, no state
May 07 21:09:31 <ZeekHuge> how are the two different ?
May 07 21:09:57 <Wormo> shutdown shuts things down "cleanly" then tells kernel to turn off at very end
May 07 21:10:11 <ZeekHuge> okay got it
May 07 21:10:31 <Wormo> e.g. don't do 'echo o' trick if you've got usb stick mounted
May 07 21:10:57 <ZeekHuge> shutdown = kill and echo o >/proc/sysrq-trigger = kill -9
May 07 21:11:03 <ZeekHuge> or else ?
May 07 21:11:15 <Wormo> yeah that analogy works for me
May 07 21:12:44 <ZeekHuge> what if I'll use it with usb mounted ? I'll lose the data ?
May 07 21:12:56 <ZeekHuge> like there wont be any "eject" action
May 07 21:13:00 <Wormo> yes
May 07 21:13:08 <Wormo> unless you do it manually first
May 07 21:13:23 <ZeekHuge> Okay :)
May 07 21:14:31 * ZeekHuge will try to learn at-least one new, cool and interesting thing here, everyday. 
May 07 21:15:00 <Wormo> good plan :)
May 07 21:32:37 <ZeekHuge> Wormo: So its probably the "pruss" module and not the pru_rproc. I blacklisted them and loaded them manually.
May 07 21:33:19 <ZeekHuge> followed steps: modprobe pruss : rmmod pruss : modprobe pruss : error as output
May 07 21:34:08 <ZeekHuge> also, I can always use that big hammer to reboot ? that wont harm the system right ?
May 07 21:34:15 <ZeekHuge> system = bbb .
May 07 21:37:13 <Wormo> I would stick with 'reboot' habit unless there is a need for the bigger hammer
May 07 21:38:50 <ZeekHuge> okay, so can we conclude that its pruss that causing problem and not pru_rproc ?
May 07 21:39:48 <Wormo> on phone, sorry...
May 07 21:40:03 <ZeekHuge> no problem .
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