**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 18 02:59:58 2016 May 18 12:49:14 av500: jkridner-debianp: chanakya_vc may not be able to attend the entire meeting today due to exams but he says he should show for at least part of it May 18 13:27:21 noted May 18 15:30:15 hi, gcc in travis cloud has a problem with compiling the linux headers. An error multiple definitions May 18 15:30:18 I tried to set the gcc flag but isn't working. This is build log: https://s3.amazonaws.com/archive.travis-ci.org/jobs/131163885/log.txt May 18 15:38:48 did you google 'till your fingers hurt? May 18 15:43:37 I was looking for two hours May 18 15:48:50 Hey bradfa,mdp ! Meeting in 10 minutes? May 18 15:49:25 pmezydlo: have you try using the omap2plus_defconfig instead of versatile? May 18 15:53:35 chanakya_vc: yes May 18 15:54:35 bradfa, Okay. I got my logic analyzer today but I haven't had the chance to test it yet. May 18 15:56:35 pmezydlo: Is CONFIG_OF_DYNAMIC set in the defconfig you are using? May 18 15:57:12 gm May 18 15:57:18 meeting time is now, right? May 18 15:57:48 I think so May 18 15:57:49 Hi everybody!! Did I miss something? May 18 15:57:57 not yet May 18 15:58:04 m_w: m_w: I use defconfig only, but I will try omap2plus_defconfig. May 18 15:58:35 pmezydlo: pmezydlo: okay :) May 18 15:58:36 Hi May 18 16:00:16 <_av500_> aloo May 18 16:00:22 hello from Oakland May 18 16:00:31 this meeting is suddenly a lot earlier! May 18 16:00:34 moin May 18 16:00:44 moin May 18 16:00:46 Hi May 18 16:01:04 hi May 18 16:01:13 <_av500_> alexhiam: no, oakland is a lot later May 18 16:01:59 hmmm May 18 16:02:43 howdy from SFO. May 18 16:03:25 hello May 18 16:03:27 Hello alexhiam , ds2, _av500_, jkridner! May 18 16:03:44 * nerdboy stuck in Ada compiler loop... May 18 16:04:00 hi nerdboy ! May 18 16:04:32 I can be present only on the first 15 minutes. I have an exam in an hour May 18 16:04:40 <_av500_> ok May 18 16:04:47 <_av500_> pmezydlo: did you upload a video? May 18 16:04:55 yes May 18 16:05:26 <_av500_> good May 18 16:05:31 before last meeting May 18 16:05:35 seems we have all 7 May 18 16:05:44 <_av500_> pmezydlo: anything blocking you to start coding? May 18 16:06:38 already I started May 18 16:07:11 it's ok I have a little problem with travis May 18 16:07:13 * alexhiam needs to switch wifi networks, back in a sec... May 18 16:07:28 I can handle it May 18 16:08:51 <_av500_> ok May 18 16:08:57 <_av500_> 1) WELCOME May 18 16:09:01 <_av500_> hello everybody May 18 16:09:06 <_av500_> students are all here? May 18 16:09:14 hello _av500_ May 18 16:09:55 Hi _av500_ May 18 16:10:52 hi _av500_ May 18 16:10:55 hi all:) May 18 16:10:59 <_av500_> amragaey: pmezydlo: henrix_ chanakya_vc May 18 16:11:01 <_av500_> thats 4 May 18 16:11:09 <_av500_> Visaoni: 5 May 18 16:11:21 <_av500_> kiran4399: ? May 18 16:12:21 <_av500_> anybody? May 18 16:12:34 <_av500_> ZeekHuge: ? May 18 16:12:37 <_av500_> kiran4399: ? May 18 16:12:48 Yep ! May 18 16:12:50 Sorry ! May 18 16:12:54 I am here ! May 18 16:12:59 sounds like everyone has a case of the Wednesdays May 18 16:13:08 I'm coming, bye May 18 16:13:18 <_av500_> and I saw kiran4399 3 minutes before the meeting May 18 16:13:20 well, it *is* wednesday... May 18 16:13:24 <_av500_> that would make 7 May 18 16:13:32 <_av500_> oops May 18 16:13:35 <_av500_> back to 6 May 18 16:13:40 <_av500_> I see 7 videos UP May 18 16:13:48 amragaey: you live? May 18 16:14:03 hi May 18 16:14:06 sorry May 18 16:14:44 yes, I'm here May 18 16:16:05 <_av500_> 7 videos up, very good May 18 16:16:16 <_av500_> thanks! May 18 16:16:27 <_av500_> opps, that was 2) Videos May 18 16:16:40 <_av500_> jkridner: did you send out that missing hardware? May 18 16:17:10 I updated the address spreadsheet with shipping info. May 18 16:17:23 <_av500_> is that a yes? May 18 16:17:29 <_av500_> that ADC board? May 18 16:17:44 BeagleBone Blacks for those that needed those, 2 X15 for henrix_, Black+Robotics cape for kiran.. May 18 16:18:01 * nerdboy didn't get any consolation gifts yet... May 18 16:18:21 Hello.. network here does not seem to be smooth. May 18 16:18:24 did I miss something? May 18 16:18:41 not really May 18 16:18:47 <_av500_> kiran4399: thanks for the video May 18 16:18:55 the 2nd Blue is something I don't have... May 18 16:19:06 nerdboy: is the sensors for visaona's project taken care of? May 18 16:19:08 <_av500_> jkridner: and that ADC board, there was an email thread about that May 18 16:19:10 I can order a Black today and maybe a sensor. May 18 16:19:12 jkridner: No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-P May 18 16:19:18 I haven't ordered the ADC board yet. May 18 16:19:28 <_av500_> ok May 18 16:19:33 jkridner: the second blue being mine? May 18 16:19:41 shippment ETA is Fri 5/20/2016 by 6:00 pm, thx for that...! May 18 16:19:46 "taken care of"? May 18 16:19:47 <_av500_> just want to make sure its getting ordered/shipped May 18 16:19:48 for the Ane...whatever thingy May 18 16:19:52 wind speed thing. May 18 16:19:55 oh right May 18 16:19:57 <_av500_> pffffffffffffffft May 18 16:20:02 the required parts are listed May 18 16:20:03 alexhiam: I still need to get you a blue/cape too. May 18 16:20:24 nerdboy: I need something I can click and then use a paypal account. May 18 16:20:38 jkridner: got a strawson cape with you? I could grab it at mf May 18 16:21:04 Visaoni, nerboy, jkridner: couldn't a black work for a lot of the initial coding? May 18 16:21:14 * nerdboy pokes at Visaoni May 18 16:21:28 yep, a black would be fine May 18 16:21:40 nerdboy: ordering, etc. May 18 16:22:37 Visaoni: is the black the only thing u need? May 18 16:23:15 4 transducers and one adc (plus blue-or-imu later) May 18 16:23:38 no. I need some of the sensors at least. what nerdboy has would be minimal May 18 16:24:02 my board is in transit from May 3, is it normal ? May 18 16:24:15 nerdboy: what is the plan to getting Visaoni the parts? May 18 16:24:54 2 transducers would be truely minimal, I guess. but probably no point in splitting that one... May 18 16:24:54 until now, i was only asked for part numbers May 18 16:25:23 er, number-of-parts/model numbers May 18 16:25:29 alexhiam: I only have 1 I'm using for a demo on me. May 18 16:25:48 probably all of them at digikey May 18 16:26:22 nerdboy: who's doing the ordering? (you, jkridner, etc) May 18 16:26:41 jkridner afaik... May 18 16:27:26 last i know is "put it in the spreadsheet" May 18 16:28:48 do we need to add a "buy now" button? May 18 16:28:54 nerdboy: I'm going to pay for it, but I'm asking for some help figuring out how to order these things.... I'm good for $$$, not time. May 18 16:29:25 * jkridner spent quite a bit of time on damn international shipping docs. May 18 16:29:30 <_av500_> nerdboy: can you do that? May 18 16:29:37 <_av500_> pretty please May 18 16:30:30 juggle another random object? May 18 16:32:27 <_av500_> yes May 18 16:32:40 <_av500_> nerdboy: you can do it May 18 16:33:39 <_av500_> ok May 18 16:33:50 :) May 18 16:33:58 <_av500_> so thatwas 3) shipping hardware May 18 16:34:14 <_av500_> 4) coding starts next week May 18 16:34:20 <_av500_> If I am not mistaken May 18 16:34:26 <_av500_> you all know how to type make May 18 16:34:31 <_av500_> got a fresh floppy disk May 18 16:34:37 <_av500_> and new printer ribbon May 18 16:34:53 might be a good time to windex the vt100 May 18 16:34:57 * jkridner wishes we could get rcn-ee and pdp7 to show up to these. May 18 16:35:14 anyone need help with continuous integration in respect to code starting next week? May 18 16:35:36 everyone's got their githubs and will be committing code 4-7 days a week? May 18 16:36:01 visaoni: things all set on your end (sorry, I didn't have much of a chance to talk to you) May 18 16:36:02 * jkridner won't be happy to see 4+ days pass without a commit of some kind. May 18 16:36:06 Visaoni: your adc part is obsolete (according t digikey) so you need to pick another one May 18 16:36:19 there are plenty... May 18 16:36:28 jkridner, Yes i need to know more on CI with bone101 May 18 16:36:35 nerdboy: gah, alright I'll take a look at that this afternoon May 18 16:36:46 http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/analog-devices-inc/AD9481BSUZ-250/AD9481BSUZ-250-ND/996580 May 18 16:36:55 everyone have there repos created with nice READMEs?? May 18 16:37:33 I already forked bone101 to my repos May 18 16:37:38 readme ... will do, not as of now. May 18 16:38:22 also, all the repos need licenses, so make sure you know what you're doing there and push it with your first commit May 18 16:38:27 it just has almost no description as of now. May 18 16:38:31 <_av500_> and link them in the wiki May 18 16:38:50 I dont understand much about licenses. Will look into it. May 18 16:39:04 <_av500_> ZeekHuge: ask your mentor May 18 16:39:12 okay. May 18 16:39:17 kernel stuff needs to be gplv2 to get upstreamed to Linux May 18 16:39:33 amragaey: the good thing is that the gh-pages branch automatically builds xxx.github.io/bone101 pages, so you just need to make sure that works with your changes. May 18 16:39:43 ds2: I believe so. mostly going to be a matter of getting familiar with all the hardware and seeing where the leads May 18 16:39:45 alexhiam: does it need to be GPLv2 only or GPLv2 or newer? May 18 16:40:07 amragaey: for more automated testing, we should debug html-proofer on travis-ci.org, but I don't want to delay you with that. May 18 16:40:18 Linux kernel contributions require GPLv2 only May 18 16:40:20 ds2: essentially v2 only IIRC, I don't think v3 allows relicensing under v2 May 18 16:40:42 or public domain ;) May 18 16:41:03 ZeekHuge: How are your exams going? May 18 16:42:06 Theory exams, ended. Practical. yes. need to submit minor project report tomorrow or maybe day after tomorrow (that depends). May 18 16:42:10 Abhishek__: ^^ May 18 16:42:12 sensors are in the spreadsheet May 18 16:42:31 jkridner, sounds good, I should try that May 18 16:42:36 Visaoni: make sure you can breadboard that part May 18 16:43:30 _av500_, bradfa ,I need to leave .Have an exam tomorrow. Anything else that you'd want me to do? May 18 16:43:48 jkridner, I checked html-proofer now, I can do it if you like. May 18 16:44:05 unless you were planning on soldering to something May 18 16:44:19 bradfa, I will work on getting the code for the PRU tomorrow or day after tomorrow.And get back to you. May 18 16:44:25 amragaey: sure. for some reason, it was giving me a problem when running on travis-ci.org May 18 16:44:37 Thanks chanakya_vc May 18 16:44:43 <_av500_> chanakya_vc: ok May 18 16:44:45 good luck chanakya_vc ! May 18 16:45:10 Okay mdp, _av500_ . May 18 16:45:19 ZeekHuge, Thanks!! : ) May 18 16:45:32 ZeekHuge: does that solve your licensing questions? May 18 16:45:47 jkridner, is the gem installed in bone101 now ? May 18 16:46:09 bone101 doesn't have gems. May 18 16:46:45 amragaey: sorry to get lost on terminology, but it is only part of the travis-ci testing. May 18 16:47:19 I'm checking this now : https://github.com/gjtorikian/html-proofer May 18 16:47:22 ds2: okay so GPLv2 ? right ? May 18 16:47:29 my frustration: https://github.com/jadonk/bone101/commit/e331521ca214c9e56e937b68e76b967c8c65305b May 18 16:47:32 http://elinux.org/Legal_Issues May 18 16:47:53 there's a use case for Jekyll projects May 18 16:48:01 amragaey: that was where I was running html-proofer May 18 16:48:21 amragaey: it is still set to be installed here: https://github.com/jadonk/bone101/blob/master/.travis.yml May 18 16:49:09 * jkridner hates the way Debian packaging "works" May 18 16:49:18 ZeekHuge:GPLv2 only May 18 16:49:55 and since i will be modifying the beaglelogic firmware, what about it ? May 18 16:49:59 ppa builder is worse... May 18 16:50:05 its GNU GPL May 18 16:50:18 Abhishek__: ds2 ^^ May 18 16:50:24 how will that go ? May 18 16:50:45 ZeekHuge: GPL version? May 18 16:50:57 oh yeah, beaglelogic is v3... May 18 16:50:58 ZeekHuge: or contact the author for clarification ;) May 18 16:51:26 this is what it says * Licensed under the GNU GPL and provided "as-is" without any expressed May 18 16:51:28 v3 May 18 16:51:38 Abhishek__: so you technically need to relicense under v2 to upstream May 18 16:52:01 does it make sense for beaglelogic to be upstreamed to Linux though? May 18 16:52:08 alexhiam: for the firmware to go upstream? May 18 16:52:13 I mean in the kernel May 18 16:52:32 alexhiam: The kernel driver portions are separately under v2 May 18 16:52:48 Abhishek__: ah, ok. I was just looking at your top level LICENSE file May 18 16:53:16 ZeekHuge: so, probably pru firmware under v3 to match beaglelogic? May 18 16:53:38 okay . May 18 16:53:44 ZeekHuge: are you going to upstream firmware to beaglelogic to add ADC functionality, or will it be separate? May 18 16:54:05 jkridner, I will check the problem May 18 16:54:18 <_av500_> just sec May 18 16:54:24 <_av500_> to interrupt your tech talk May 18 16:54:35 <_av500_> anything else that would involve upper management? May 18 16:54:52 <_av500_> I assume you are all good to go May 18 16:55:19 _av500_: sourcing parts may be a problem on the sonic annometer project May 18 16:55:35 <_av500_> yes, I got that May 18 16:55:42 <_av500_> nerdboy: please stay on that May 18 16:55:55 <_av500_> or you will have to read AD values over the phone May 18 16:57:13 * ds2 pictures on nerdboy on a sail boat reading AD values over a sat phone ;) May 18 16:57:17 _av500_, nerdboy: when should I check the shipping spreadsheet again and apply my credit card? May 18 16:57:29 <_av500_> nerdboy: ^^ May 18 16:57:58 now? May 18 16:58:17 btw, for the soundcard adapter board, we'd need some components such as connectors etc. too, can that be billed to the project at the org as well? May 18 16:58:20 or you can wait for the last one... May 18 16:59:58 <_av500_> rma_: jkridner is the moneyman May 18 17:00:11 <_av500_> rma_: how many digits are we talking about? May 18 17:01:56 <_av500_> rma_: ? May 18 17:02:08 <_av500_> one hour has passed May 18 17:02:18 alexhiam: it will be separate, but will be based on beaglelogic fw. atleast for now. merging the two features can be a post-soc thing . May 18 17:02:31 <_av500_> can the students please all tell me they are good to go May 18 17:02:31 ds2: Abhishek__ ^^ makes sense ? May 18 17:02:41 <_av500_> can the students please all tell me they are good to go May 18 17:02:52 ZeekHuge: then yeah, drivers under GPLv2 and firmware under GPLv3 sounds like the way to go May 18 17:03:04 cool ! May 18 17:03:05 probs not too much, have no idea what the connectors cost May 18 17:03:08 <_av500_> can the students please all tell me they are good to go May 18 17:03:19 any link to the connectors on the x15? May 18 17:03:23 I am good to go May 18 17:03:24 have to check mouser May 18 17:03:34 <_av500_> m_w: good :) May 18 17:03:39 <_av500_> no more students here? May 18 17:03:44 good to go ! need to do some work on datasheets, will start tomorrow. May 18 17:03:45 <_av500_> can the students please all tell me they are good to go May 18 17:03:47 I am not a student May 18 17:03:59 <_av500_> I have 1 May 18 17:04:01 good to go May 18 17:04:03 <_av500_> 2 May 18 17:04:10 I'm good May 18 17:04:13 <_av500_> 3 May 18 17:04:26 * alexhiam pokes amragaey May 18 17:04:30 I think they all fell asleep May 18 17:04:36 :) May 18 17:05:02 Visaoni: what times are you active? and feel free to ping me if you have questions May 18 17:05:14 pmezydlo: is good, he left for a test May 18 17:05:32 <_av500_> ok May 18 17:05:52 <_av500_> 4 May 18 17:06:03 <_av500_> chanakya_vc left to, no May 18 17:06:06 <_av500_> thats 5 May 18 17:06:12 <_av500_> amragaey: ? May 18 17:06:24 kiran4399 was having network problems May 18 17:06:24 <_av500_> and we lost kiran4399 May 18 17:06:28 <_av500_> k May 18 17:06:37 but he should be good to go I think... May 18 17:06:43 AFAIK May 18 17:07:15 ds2: will do. my schedule tends to be a bit labile but evening/night PST tends to be pretty stable May 18 17:07:27 <_av500_> alexhiam: ok May 18 17:07:29 <_av500_> thats 6 May 18 17:07:41 alexhiam: what are you doing up in Oakland? We hanging out this evening with pdp7 and others? May 18 17:07:49 the murata sensors are 6.80 each qty 1 May 18 17:07:50 <_av500_> Visaoni: you are good to go? May 18 17:08:18 Visaoni: oh cool.. PST... evening/nights work great for me May 18 17:08:38 * _av500_ has to leave now May 18 17:08:39 any details on the pin header type of the X15 would be appreciated May 18 17:08:43 jkridner: where u guys hanging out? May 18 17:08:45 jkridner: staying with some friends, then hotel in San Mateo fri-sun. Y'all going to Gray Area? May 18 17:08:47 ds2: ... what I said to alexhiam May 18 17:08:53 <_av500_> rma_: pls send me a mail May 18 17:08:54 _av500_: yep May 18 17:08:55 ds2: not sure yet. May 18 17:08:58 <_av500_> Visaoni: ok May 18 17:09:01 the potential adc replacements are ~ $30 or so May 18 17:09:03 av500: ok May 18 17:09:07 <_av500_> rma_: that I can forward to Gerald May 18 17:09:09 maybe less May 18 17:09:14 av500: ok May 18 17:09:17 <_av500_> see you all next week May 18 17:09:20 <_av500_> thanks May 18 17:09:22 laters! May 18 17:09:24 later May 18 17:09:26 thanks _av500_! May 18 17:09:36 <_av500_> and dont forget, real gsoc starts! May 18 17:09:48 karki_: ... what I said to alexhiam and ds2 May 18 17:10:34 bye May 18 17:10:36 as soon as Visaoni picks an adc part jkridner can finish that one... May 18 17:10:59 * Visaoni is looking around May 18 17:11:02 alexhiam, ds2, karki_: https://twitter.com/PaulStoffregen/status/732639478108413953 May 18 17:11:46 jkridner: sick, that's tomorrow though? May 18 17:11:46 oh, wait, that says tomorrow... May 18 17:11:50 who can wait until tomorrow. May 18 17:11:51 ? May 18 17:11:58 :-D May 18 17:12:04 jkridner: there's this tonight http://dorkbotsf.org/archive/201605/ May 18 17:12:10 alexhiam: oh, right! May 18 17:12:14 I knew there was something! May 18 17:12:19 that's where I'll be. May 18 17:12:37 I'm out May 18 17:12:40 jkridner: awesome, I may see you there then! May 18 17:12:55 ds2: you won't do DorkbotSF? May 18 17:13:08 jkridner: the drive from SNV -> SF at that time would be insane May 18 17:13:16 ah. May 18 17:13:32 well, tomorrow we'll be down in San Mateo... not AS bad. May 18 17:13:56 jkridner: you know the details for tomorrow? May 18 17:14:03 Friday is probally better May 18 17:14:08 nope... the tweet is all I have. May 18 17:14:12 _av500_, yes I'm here :D May 18 17:14:28 customer stuff May 18 17:14:39 Friday will be hanging out at the Event and then going somewhere from there. May 18 17:15:13 jkridner: not sure I'll make it to San Mateo tomorrow since I'm going that way Friday May 18 17:15:53 It is a chance to hang out with Paul, Anouk, etc. before things are crazy-crazy. May 18 17:16:05 jkridner: yeah, that is very tempting... May 18 17:16:28 you guys are lucky... no car to park May 18 17:16:49 ds2: leave your car at home! :-) May 18 17:16:51 ds2: I've got a rental... parking gonna be crazy? May 18 17:17:16 I hope I don't have to go further than San Mateo and back to the airport, so I've got no car. May 18 17:17:22 alexhiam: uh.. yes unless you like $$... let me see if the lot list is posted yet May 18 17:18:01 ds2: oh, you mean for maker faire or or the area in general? I'm spending the weekend in a hotel so no car for the faire May 18 17:18:27 alexhiam: for SF it is bad... SM has a nice city lot/structure May 18 17:18:44 alexhiam: but travel 4-7 is irritating at best May 18 17:19:52 ds2: so I guess driving to mission street for a 7pm event tonight probably won't be too fun... May 18 17:20:29 alexhiam: yes... the only thing working for you is you are on the OAK-SF direction May 18 17:20:37 SF->OAK is miserable May 18 17:21:16 oh, I forgot that I am in OAK tomorrow afternoon before heading to San Mateo. May 18 17:21:35 jkridner: how are you getting around? BART? May 18 17:21:47 looks like I can take a bus to the bart May 18 17:21:52 Uber + BART May 18 17:21:52 1hr to gray area May 18 17:21:53 is dorkbot == noisebridge? May 18 17:22:07 it's at Gray Area May 18 17:22:26 http://grayarea.org/ May 18 17:22:29 * jkridner is only familiar with DorkbotPDX.... DorkbotSF will be new to me.... but it is a hackerspace by my understanding May 18 17:22:34 donno that area May 18 17:23:07 jkridner: what you doing in OAK tomorrow? May 18 17:23:21 alexhiam: you do know the bridge is toll, right? May 18 17:23:25 touring a place with huge robots/mechs May 18 17:23:42 jkridner: jack london area? May 18 17:23:43 a guy from the Detroit area started this company up and he's going to let me tour it. May 18 17:24:11 ds2: what?! jut for OAK->SFO? no toll coming to OAK last night May 18 17:24:20 jkridner: nice! May 18 17:24:34 1960 Mandela pkwy Oakland May 18 17:24:45 alexhiam: SF -> * bridges are free; * -> SF are paid directions May 18 17:25:48 jkridner: that's 12 min from me May 18 17:26:11 jkridner: that area might be like downtown detroit ;) May 18 17:26:57 alexhiam: want to join before coming down to San Mateo? It should be at 3:30. May 18 17:27:20 jkridner: I'd love to, I think I should be free May 18 17:27:38 k. you have my mobile #? May 18 17:28:03 jkridner: pm? May 18 17:28:24 jkridner: I do if it hasn't changed May 18 17:28:36 alexhiam: I PM'd May 18 17:31:41 ok, I gotta go find where they keep all the coffee in oakland May 18 17:31:58 hopefully I'll make it tonight May 18 17:35:40 alexhiam: piemont has some nice ones IIRC May 18 17:36:09 McASPs all over and not a tone to record... :( May 18 18:03:57 May 18 18:04:09 May 18 18:07:10 * Wormo waits to see if anyone else has knows about whitespace steganography May 18 18:28:12 ​ May 18 18:28:28 guess what that is... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu May 19 02:59:59 2016