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Feb 15 14:30:20 <kiran4399> Hello all!!
Feb 15 14:41:25 <zeekhuge> Hey !
Feb 15 16:56:46 <henrix_> hi everyone
Feb 15 17:08:24 <nerdboy> moin?
Feb 15 17:08:34 <nerdboy> mtg?
Feb 15 17:09:05 <ds2> ?
Feb 15 17:11:05 <ishan> can anybody guide me from where does i get ideas for projects
Feb 15 17:12:15 <zeekhuge> ishan: Hey ! its here : http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/Ideas
Feb 15 17:12:26 <zeekhuge> also, you can look into past ideas.
Feb 15 17:13:54 <henrix_> yes, thought mtg today
Feb 15 17:14:16 <nerdboy> jkridner said so
Feb 15 17:14:35 * nerdboy looks for the _av500_ stick
Feb 15 17:17:49 <nerdboy> well, who is interested in applying this year?  raise your hand...
Feb 15 17:18:34 <carpediem_> nerdboy: Applying as a student?
Feb 15 17:18:58 <nerdboy> more or less, but mentors also...
Feb 15 17:19:23 <ishan> me also
Feb 15 17:19:29 <nerdboy> anybody need to add themselves to the mentor list and/or some projects?
Feb 15 17:19:43 * carpediem_ raises hand for the student application.
Feb 15 17:20:09 <zeekhuge> nerdboy: already did.
Feb 15 17:20:26 <ishan> i am to work on some project but i am confused like which project to choose
Feb 15 17:20:45 <nerdboy> depends on what you want to learn
Feb 15 17:21:06 * nerdboy is partial to the science-y stuff
Feb 15 17:22:23 <ishan> like the link you given ,it redirect me to the page containing registeres ideas but i want to confirm does i can take any of the ideas or they belong to some other set of persons
Feb 15 17:22:32 <nerdboy> ishan: did you already browse the current ideas page?  past projects?  anything robotic/other with beaglebone blue?
Feb 15 17:22:54 <nerdboy> no, they're all open
Feb 15 17:23:34 <ishan> where is the current idea page
Feb 15 17:23:44 <nerdboy> applications get reviewed and slots chosen, but anyone is free to pick what they want
Feb 15 17:23:54 <zeekhuge> ishan: The one that I pointed you to .
Feb 15 17:24:25 <henrix_> nerdboy, already added me to the audio project as mentor too
Feb 15 17:27:20 <nerdboy> anybody else?
Feb 15 17:27:47 <kiran4399> jkridner: I want to participate as a student for this year's GSoC.
Feb 15 17:28:39 <nerdboy> so mtg or no, *ask questions* if you have any, somebody is usually here...
Feb 15 17:29:48 <carpediem_> nerdboy: For the BBBlfs project
Feb 15 17:29:59 <nerdboy> part of GSoC is the code, and the rest is interacting with your community using the specified tools, etc
Feb 15 17:30:18 <carpediem_> I wanted to ask if it would focus only on the BBB, or all BeagleBone variants?
Feb 15 17:30:52 <carpediem_> like blue/x15 etc?
Feb 15 17:31:33 <nerdboy> x15 isn't a beaglebone
Feb 15 17:32:23 <nerdboy> that project should probably cover all beaglebone colors
Feb 15 17:32:38 <nerdboy> well, at least black/green/blue
Feb 15 17:32:49 <nerdboy> white is a little different
Feb 15 17:33:34 <carpediem_> I am unclear on the distinction between BeagleBone and BeagleBoard. Please clear that out a bit?
Feb 15 17:35:31 <nerdboy> they are two different "families" essentially
Feb 15 17:36:16 <nerdboy> beagleboards are bigger with more hardware
Feb 15 17:36:20 <ds2> ALL Beagle variants
Feb 15 17:36:27 <ds2> even classic if it makes sense
Feb 15 17:36:45 <nerdboy> beaglebones are all the same physical format
Feb 15 17:37:15 <ds2> having said that, is it that big of a difference to support the other ones?
Feb 15 17:37:15 <nerdboy> the newer ones like green switch out some hardware for alternate stuff
Feb 15 17:37:30 <ds2> but that is the flasher... it is pretty generic
Feb 15 17:37:45 <nerdboy> you mean begaleboard with bblfs?
Feb 15 17:38:02 <ds2> <carpediem_> nerdboy: For the BBBlfs project
Feb 15 17:38:11 <carpediem_> yeah, the previous project used BBB Rev B
Feb 15 17:38:20 * nerdboy has no idea about beagleboards
Feb 15 17:38:24 <ds2> BBC shouldn't be that different...
Feb 15 17:38:28 <carpediem_> I do not know if vvu tested it on White or other variants
Feb 15 17:38:39 <ds2> of course it doesn't use a eMMC and there are other ways to flash it :D
Feb 15 17:38:48 <ds2> white doesn't have a eMMC
Feb 15 17:39:59 <ds2> 2 things: 1 - Should it work if one insist, probally. 2 - does it make sense to make that a primary use case, probally not if there are easier ways to flash it.
Feb 15 17:40:43 <nerdboy> be happy to play with a beagleboard if somebody sends me one...
Feb 15 17:41:12 <carpediem_> From what I gather, RPi also uses a similar method of flashing as in the BBB, using a microSD.
Feb 15 17:41:45 <carpediem_> So, this project would be a great addition as it would allow anybody to flash a board without a microSD
Feb 15 17:41:58 <m_w> nerdboy: I have a beagleboard
Feb 15 17:42:28 * nerdboy needs a good booth demo
Feb 15 17:42:31 <carpediem_> ds2: What are the easier ways>
Feb 15 17:42:32 <carpediem_> ?
Feb 15 17:43:22 <nerdboy> one way is to use the rcn flasher image/script
Feb 15 17:43:37 <nerdboy> *for beaglebone
Feb 15 17:44:11 <nerdboy> m_w: feel free to test/answer stuff wrt beagleboard
Feb 15 17:44:39 <m_w> well is olde
Feb 15 17:44:47 <m_w> red
Feb 15 17:45:04 <nerdboy> wasn't there a flasher project thing 2 years ago?
Feb 15 17:46:51 <ds2> carpediem_: pop out SD card and flash it on another machine :D
Feb 15 17:48:51 <carpediem_> ds2: I was trying something with my BBB
Feb 15 17:49:00 <carpediem_> and did not realize that it was Rev B
Feb 15 17:49:24 <carpediem_> So when I tried to flash it using the standard 4GB image, it would simply not work
Feb 15 17:49:55 <carpediem_> So I had to boot off a microSD, then dd the image to the eMMC
Feb 15 17:50:07 <carpediem_> Was there any easier approach to this problem?
Feb 15 17:50:37 <ds2> no
Feb 15 17:51:56 <carpediem_> ok. That was couple of hours of head scratching. :D
Feb 15 17:53:24 <carpediem_> Is there any way to determine if an eMMC is 2 GB or 4 GB? Otherwise this might be a problem for the flasher
Feb 15 17:54:01 <zeekhuge> carpediem_:  "df -h" ?
Feb 15 17:54:32 <carpediem_> that's from on the board
Feb 15 17:55:03 <carpediem_> What if my board is not booting the OS?
Feb 15 17:55:50 <zeekhuge> look into specifications at bbb.io, or others might be able to tell more ways.
Feb 15 17:59:37 <ds2> yes,you can try to get an idea from the partition table (assuming it is valid)
Feb 15 17:59:43 <ds2> or send a command and ask the card
Feb 15 18:02:31 <nerdboy> kernel can see that stuff but it needs to boot from one of them (sdcard or emmc)
Feb 15 18:06:54 <ds2> no
Feb 15 18:06:59 <ds2> it can boot from USB directly
Feb 15 18:07:06 <ds2> see TRM
Feb 15 18:44:55 <yodude_> Hello everyone, I'm Yogesh from Mumbai.
Feb 15 18:46:00 <yodude_> I'm interested in BeagleBone synchronous data collection project for GSoC, but I'm new in embedded Linux system. From where should I start ?
Feb 15 18:47:13 <zeekhuge> yodude_: its motly about PRUs. ds2 can help you more on this.
Feb 15 18:47:23 <zeekhuge> *mostly
Feb 15 18:51:44 <ds2> do research on what the PRU is
Feb 15 18:52:19 <ds2> then learn what makes a synchronous signal synchronous
Feb 15 18:52:30 <ds2> we can talk after you get those foundation items sorted out :D
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