**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 19 03:00:03 2017 Mar 19 13:15:44 jkridner: There? Mar 19 13:59:48 ravikp7: hi, there? Mar 19 14:10:07 uka_in: hi! Mar 19 14:10:42 I corrected the code and tested it Mar 19 14:10:51 but still there's no error Mar 19 14:11:36 uka_in: that's what I expected, kernel driver binds the rom Mar 19 14:12:16 uka_in: not binds the rom Mar 19 14:12:33 ?didn't get it Mar 19 14:13:06 Ha, so is there a need of kext file? Mar 19 14:13:17 uka_in: i don't think so Mar 19 14:14:07 also after requesting for elinix page How much time it usually takes for password? Mar 19 14:15:14 uka_in: the same day Mar 19 14:15:30 12 hours? Mar 19 14:16:16 I don't remember, I did this more than 15 days ago Mar 19 14:16:52 ok Mar 19 14:18:08 uka_in: tell jkridner through mailing list, that you had no issues while claiming the interface on OSX Mar 19 14:18:30 I commented on github... Mar 19 14:19:58 Mailing list would be more appropriate to notify him Mar 19 14:20:29 Ok, I'll do it once.. Mar 19 15:00:50 Hey I stumbled across this article and now I'm a bit confused. https://opengear.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/216369823-What-s-a-console-server-c-f-serial-terminal-server- Mar 19 15:01:37 according to that article, shouldn't the "Serial Terminal Server" be labled "Console Server" ? Mar 19 15:05:08 Oh, I mean the "Serial Terminal Server"-Project Mar 19 17:15:28 Uka_in: thanks! Mar 19 17:25:00 Agree with ravikp7 about using the list. Mentions here with the slackbot or gitter bot also get my attention. Mar 19 17:48:08 m_w: hey I looked through commercial terminal servers and found that some companies also include pattern matching, messaging when certain events occur and tunneling to interconnect serial devices. Mar 19 17:48:30 ordsen: fancy Mar 19 17:48:54 maybe we can add some of those features as stretch goals Mar 19 17:49:44 ordsen: whereabouts are you located on the globe? Mar 19 17:50:05 I think it would be rally cool to include that in the terminal server project too. I will set up some milestones for my application tomorrow and see how this would fit in; But I don't quite get where exactly to put my application on eLinux? Mar 19 17:50:24 I'm located in Germany Mar 19 17:53:32 ordsen: not sure where the post will go exactly Mar 19 17:55:30 beagleslackbot: anyone on slack have more details about the student posts on elinux? Mar 19 18:02:32 *crickets Mar 19 18:03:33 http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/ProposalTemplate Mar 19 18:03:55 so you create a new page and use this as the template Mar 19 18:10:06 the easiest way to create a page is probably on your User page Mar 19 18:11:10 just create a link and then create the page based on the link Mar 19 18:16:16 Ok, that's what I needed. I knew about the template but I didn't know from where to link to my proposal Mar 19 18:17:12 linking from your user page for now shouldn't be a big deal Mar 19 18:17:37 then we can link them from another page later on Mar 19 18:17:55 yeah right Mar 19 18:19:12 hii everyone!! Mar 19 18:19:30 nerdboy: we talked yesterday about sonic anemometer Mar 19 18:20:12 nerdboy: and I asked if you could take a look at my proposal, I have created a wiki page Mar 19 18:20:29 nerdboy:it would be great if you can have a look Mar 19 18:20:33 thetransformerr: link? Mar 19 18:20:39 https://github.com/thetransformerr/thetransformerr.github.io/wiki Mar 19 18:21:01 nice Mar 19 18:21:04 please have a look m_w: Mar 19 18:21:39 we are creating elinux pages for the application process this year Mar 19 18:22:01 thetransformerr: did nerdboy say anything about that to you? Mar 19 18:22:22 I would create that also , no actually he just asked about a wiki page Mar 19 18:22:53 actually I didn't intended it to be as a final proposal Mar 19 18:23:16 m_w: I will create a elinux page also Mar 19 18:23:45 just asking ordsen was asking about the elinux page entry and was wondering if anyone else knew more about it Mar 19 18:24:47 seems that having multiple wikis would be hard to maintain Mar 19 18:24:57 I think everybody knows about it as it is mentioned clearly on ideas page Mar 19 18:25:26 not EVERYONE Mar 19 18:25:36 as I said, I didn't wanted it to be as final proposal Mar 19 18:25:54 anyways could you please have a look at it Mar 19 18:26:13 sure Mar 19 18:26:21 and tell If I should have any changes in goal Mar 19 18:26:57 well I am kind of an outsider on the project but I can give it a look anyways Mar 19 18:27:30 the trick is making sure the goals are evenly distributed and the right amount of work Mar 19 18:27:56 last year lots were confident during proposal and fell short when the gsoc started Mar 19 18:28:11 m_w: yeah , I tried that , it would be great if you could share your ideas, Mar 19 18:28:31 okay I will look and get back to you shortly Mar 19 18:41:03 first you're trying to measure u and v wind components Mar 19 18:41:26 the convention is u points north and v points east Mar 19 18:42:11 a 3-axis would also have w (which points up) Mar 19 18:42:37 so x,y directions should match u and v Mar 19 18:43:15 resolve u,v wind vectors to get speed,direction Mar 19 18:44:24 the imu magnetometer gives you a (free) compass to orient the device itself Mar 19 18:45:17 normally mechanical anemometers are physically sited with a brunton/other instrument so the "arrow" points north Mar 19 18:45:49 think you can just take a compass reading and rotate on-the-fly Mar 19 18:50:05 nerdboy:apart than directions any other improvements I should make Mar 19 18:52:31 I have taken these images from pdf, but now I would create them myself, as you have pointed out Mar 19 18:54:13 and m_w: told for creating a elinux wiki page, would you please tell me how to do that because I checked just now Mar 19 18:54:27 but couldn't make out how to do that Mar 19 19:00:19 thetransformerr: I just found this https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Starting_a_new_page there are described some options for creating a new page Mar 19 19:03:09 yup, just need an account and the instructions Mar 19 19:03:38 if you make a link in another page it will go to "create page" Mar 19 19:04:17 m_w: I got a bit confused by an article I read today about console servers so just to make sure: We are accessing the bb from a network and manage serial devices through that connection, right? Mar 19 19:04:33 i have requested for account waiting for password Mar 19 19:11:17 m_w , nerdboy : I'm making a proposal for this project "Port BeagleBone USB-based bootloader server from C to JavaScript (node.js)" , which will eventually be a cross platform GUI flasher tool for BB hardware. I've to include quotes from community members on what will be its impact on the community on successful completion of the project. Can you help here Mar 19 19:11:17 ? Mar 19 19:12:23 easier for newcomers? easy for for other people? Mar 19 19:12:38 smoth deployment is always good... Mar 19 19:13:24 sounds kinda like fsl mtgtool for beaglebone Mar 19 19:15:29 nerdboy: Yeah, can I now rephrase your words and use quote with your name ? Mar 19 19:16:05 isn't that the point? depending o how much rephrasing i guess... Mar 19 19:16:38 the goal is usb flashing without needing an sdcard right? Mar 19 19:16:59 cross-platform, yada yada Mar 19 19:17:23 Yeah, won't be adding anything extra to your thoughts :) Mar 19 19:17:53 the windoze version of mfgtool is not the same as linux at all Mar 19 19:18:41 so if you can get it working smoothly/equivalently across 3 (desktop) platforms it would be even better than fsl Mar 19 19:25:08 nerdboy: While reading manual for CSAT3 I found that they were calibrating the direction using the compass manually and then did the configuration specifically for site using magnetic declination Mar 19 19:27:03 well, the imu should have a "front" which you can relate to north from the compass Mar 19 19:27:40 align the front direction with one axis and the other is orthogonal Mar 19 19:28:08 so I wanted to ask is there any cape or plugin sort of thing that can help us getting true north data so we can apply correction without any manual help Mar 19 19:28:29 during the data processing Mar 19 19:29:04 then you should always have a rotation angle from the compass (but you always need the magnetic declination for your location) Mar 19 19:29:49 you need the declinatin to get true north Mar 19 19:30:37 it's something the user needs to look up and enter as stie-config data Mar 19 19:30:47 *magnetic declination Mar 19 19:30:56 nerdboy : I'm using this quote from you "It would be easier for newcomers and other community people. Smooth deployment is always good. If you can get it working smoothly/equivalently across 3 (desktop) platforms it would be even better than fsl mfgtool." no changes indeed. Is it okay? Mar 19 19:30:57 for magnetic declination, there is this site mentioned in that manual www.ngdc.noaa.gov/geomagmodels/Declination.jsp. , so may be some api service also do exist that may help us Mar 19 19:31:21 setup dat would include that plus lat/long (or utm) and elevation Mar 19 19:31:43 that might work with the location info Mar 19 19:32:03 you could have lookup or user-enter for that Mar 19 19:32:45 yeah that can be our initial arrangement where user have to create a txt file] and later during development we can work upon fetching this data automatically Mar 19 19:32:51 you can't really do the phone-style gps/cell/wifi location stuff Mar 19 19:33:42 could be in a remote location with no access to anything Mar 19 19:34:51 a home/hobby user can lookup the site data pretty easily Mar 19 19:34:55 yeah so we have two options I think , either manual setup using IMU or lat long entered into txt file by user Mar 19 19:35:24 you can think about using an address lookup service Mar 19 19:36:17 I wanted your suggestions for appartus Mar 19 19:36:47 steel ones are fancy and useful in case of snowfall as they can be heated Mar 19 19:36:54 there's a foss andoid app for that - https://github.com/DanielBarnett714/AddressToGPS Mar 19 19:37:34 i would make a test stand for development Mar 19 19:37:51 that would be great Mar 19 19:37:51 anything stiff enough would work Mar 19 19:38:14 nerdboy: Thanks for the help :) Mar 19 19:38:19 I was think of PVC pipes :) flexible enough for changes Mar 19 19:38:20 the ones i've seen for sale mostly use plastic housing Mar 19 19:38:35 *thinking Mar 19 19:38:42 unless it's a fancy stainless steel one for the navy Mar 19 19:39:20 pvc should work with enough wall thickness Mar 19 19:40:08 some feet of tubing and right-angle connectors Mar 19 19:40:47 yeah I saw that sort of arrangement today on ggogle Mar 19 19:43:19 beagle black would be okk?? Mar 19 19:45:34 thnks for your review, please drop you suggestions if u do have any and I would reach you tomorrow with above said changes Mar 19 20:03:21 actually that's not bad for this stage Mar 19 20:04:12 need to use density form instead of molecular weight but not a bad start... Mar 19 20:35:27 m_w: To get back to my question above: I'm pretty sure it makes sense for the project connecting from a network to the bb and then accessing the serial devices. I was just asking because the article I read said that this kind of software is called a "console server" although the project is called "serial terminal server" Mar 19 20:38:09 same/same Mar 19 20:38:52 ordsen: yes, remotely managing the serial port via a network connection Mar 19 20:39:08 sorry was doing lanudry and the wifi sucked Mar 19 20:40:10 call it whatever :) Mar 19 20:41:19 haha no problem :D Mar 19 20:41:46 OK thanks; that article strictly distingushed between those two servers and said that the serial terminal only connects via a serial port which didn't really fit in the project, but I'll just ignore that Mar 19 20:42:15 then console server it is ;) Mar 19 20:46:09 ordsen: so the default install on the beaglebone black has a bunch of web interfaces already installed Mar 19 20:47:27 I found something there that might be useful Mar 19 20:51:14 on the cloud9 thing there is a way to access a prompt from the web browser Mar 19 20:55:04 cloud9 is otherwise overkil Mar 19 20:55:50 and it is really slow Mar 19 20:57:47 m_w: cloud9 seem to be cool tough.. I'll look into it Mar 19 20:59:14 Currently I'm thinking about how reactjs and nodejs could be used for the project Mar 19 21:00:20 I know that BeagleScope uses Nodejs and wanted to have a look on how they talked to low level peripherals. But nodejs could also turn the bb into a web server Mar 19 21:03:59 yeah Mar 19 21:27:44 got to prepare for two more exams though.. I hope that my bb arrives tomorrow so that I can divide my time better Mar 19 21:29:02 Anyway, I'll be off now, bye :) Mar 19 22:14:23 * nerdboy doesn't quite get it Mar 19 22:14:43 one side is always connected to the serial port Mar 19 22:14:49 that's the point Mar 19 22:15:11 in this case it should have 4 or 5 of those Mar 19 22:15:57 * nerdboy thinks some people have too much time on their hands... Mar 19 22:34:17 hello any mentor for Sonic Anemometer / Basic Weather Station on the chat now? Mar 19 22:34:43 I am interested in taking this up for GSOC2017 Mar 19 22:36:40 what exactly are your questions? Mar 19 22:36:56 mostly people are kinda busy i think... Mar 19 22:39:41 how to get selected for the project? Mar 19 22:40:01 would like to take it up...suits my skills and liking Mar 19 22:45:12 read the references and GSoC rules? start scoping a project and draft a proposal? Mar 19 22:46:43 cool that's for new proposal..same applies for the ideas at http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/Ideas Mar 19 22:47:03 do I need to create a new proposal (enhancements?) Mar 19 23:08:47 depends on what you mean by "enhancements" Mar 19 23:09:08 your project proposal should be scoped for the timeline Mar 19 23:09:27 put in what you think it needs Mar 19 23:10:28 something that works (with documentation and testing) would be the main goal Mar 20 00:07:07 sure nerdboy Mar 20 00:07:13 Thanks a lot Mar 20 00:08:02 keep in mind testing, documentation, and roadblocks/issues Mar 20 00:08:46 things never go smoothly, be ready for a side-trip to pru-edma land or something Mar 20 00:08:59 yes, that's critical Mar 20 00:09:01 :) Mar 20 00:09:12 need a plan B always Mar 20 00:09:32 important to speak up when there's a problem Mar 20 00:09:39 ok Mar 20 00:09:48 raise the flag...i get you Mar 20 00:09:48 push code daily or at least every couple days Mar 20 00:10:18 we need to see pubic activity Mar 20 00:10:24 *pubkic even Mar 20 00:10:28 yes couple of days is good i feel Mar 20 00:10:33 or public if you prefer Mar 20 00:11:10 sure Mar 20 00:11:18 ok then bfn Mar 20 00:11:37 will come in later with some more reading Mar 20 00:12:46 * nerdboy hopes nobody notices the odd hairy typo... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Mar 20 03:00:00 2017