**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Apr 01 03:00:03 2017
Apr 01 08:04:57 <zeekhuge> Akki9414: there ?
Apr 01 08:53:29 <akashn97> Hey, I just wanted to know if it's too late to submit a proposal for community review?
Apr 01 09:35:12 <thetransformerr> akashn97:its not late for submission of proposal for review but it is late to implement the changes that would be suggested in reviews
Apr 01 10:48:07 <eff> hi anyone available
Apr 01 10:48:10 <eff> I have a few questions
Apr 01 10:51:13 <eff> I am really interested in porting the bootloader from C to nodejs
Apr 01 10:51:17 <eff> usb based
Apr 01 10:51:31 <eff> I have experience with bootloaders
Apr 01 10:51:39 <eff> I want to know the details about that project
Apr 01 10:52:04 <eff> I am currently working as a software engineer at Mentor Graphics
Apr 01 10:53:59 <eff> It would really be helpful if I can chat with someone
Apr 01 10:57:23 <eff> jkridner: ???
Apr 01 16:53:23 <nerdboy> eff: you're kinda running out of time, the project details are yours to scope...
Apr 01 17:00:24 <l0ftyWhizZ> Hi! Any one available here to answer my queries? :)
Apr 01 17:04:51 <eff> nerdboy: thanks, yea I know, was working on that...I wanted to discuss with someone regarding the project...
Apr 01 17:27:29 <NP95> ds2?
Apr 01 17:30:11 <nerdboy> not my project, but the plan is u-boot ums mode
Apr 01 17:31:34 <nerdboy> u-boot would need a beagle ums config and a patch to start...
Apr 01 17:47:43 <eff> nerdboy: I thought uboot already had a boot from ums option
Apr 01 17:48:32 <nerdboy> only for some boards so far
Apr 01 17:49:43 <nerdboy> i didn't check the TI u-boot just mainline
Apr 01 17:53:09 <nerdboy> they do have a 2017.01 recipe in meta-ti
Apr 01 18:05:44 <eff> nerdboy: are you mentoring on any projects
Apr 01 18:14:13 <pmezydlo> m_w: hi, how does it look like?
Apr 01 18:22:16 <nerdboy> it depends on which get selected, typically there should be more than one mentor supporting
Apr 01 18:23:18 <m_w> pmezydlo: I just updated a bit
Apr 01 18:23:34 <m_w> pmezydlo: do we want to go with SDRAM or SRAM?
Apr 01 18:24:12 <m_w> was thinking MT48LC8M8A2x is we use SDRAM
Apr 01 18:24:32 <pmezydlo> sdram is better, cost and capacity
Apr 01 18:26:27 <pmezydlo> I can add SDRAM
Apr 01 18:28:19 <m_w> here lemme commit where I am and you can wire in the SDRAM
Apr 01 18:28:37 <m_w> I have the component placed already and was working on the net labels
Apr 01 18:30:08 <pmezydlo> m_w: no problem
Apr 01 18:30:57 <pmezydlo> m_w: do we want ice40 8k or 4k? 8k is only 3$ more expensive and requires less space
Apr 01 18:31:17 <m_w> is it a BGA though?
Apr 01 18:31:42 <pmezydlo> yeah only bga
Apr 01 18:31:44 <m_w> we want to be able to make these at home right?
Apr 01 18:32:24 <pmezydlo> yes this is a problem
Apr 01 18:32:34 <m_w> I am about to attempt my first BGA at home :)
Apr 01 18:32:52 <m_w> but the BGA I am using is pretty large
Apr 01 18:33:03 <eff> nerdboy: do you have any idea wat time jkridner will come online
Apr 01 18:33:25 <m_w> pmezydlo: it is up to you if you want to do the BGA
Apr 01 18:33:42 <m_w> I am cool with it
Apr 01 18:34:37 <pmezydlo> m_w: I'm not sure, I can't do the bga at home
Apr 01 18:35:01 <pmezydlo> m_w: brb 30min
Apr 01 18:35:24 <m_w> pmezydlo: okay I will add more net labels to the SDRAM then before I push
Apr 01 18:48:41 <nerdboy> nope, could be any time...
Apr 01 18:49:00 <nerdboy> slippery this time of year...
Apr 01 19:11:29 <pmezydlo> m_w: I will add eeprom memory for cape recognition
Apr 01 19:16:04 <m_w> pmezydlo: okay lemme commit so you can pull first
Apr 01 19:17:32 <m_w> okay I push my latest updates
Apr 01 19:17:35 <m_w> pushed
Apr 01 19:17:51 <m_w> so you can add the EEPROM after pulling
Apr 01 19:18:10 <m_w> otherwise the merge would be nasty
Apr 01 19:19:06 <pmezydlo> yes yes, I waited for you
Apr 01 19:19:14 <m_w> :)
Apr 01 19:23:28 <pmezydlo> m_w: Ehh i made pull request in wrong page
Apr 01 19:24:52 <m_w> just pulled it anyways no biggie
Apr 01 19:27:08 <m_w> I would like a do an initial placement and make a nice picture for the README
Apr 01 19:27:50 <m_w> I will wait for your pull request with the latest
Apr 01 19:28:48 <pmezydlo> m_w: at the moment I do not have any changes
Apr 01 19:29:08 <pmezydlo> I have a problem with pulling your changes
Apr 01 19:32:25 <pmezydlo> do an initial placement it's a good idea we will know how much space we still have
Apr 01 19:50:58 <m_w> pmezydlo: what is the problem with pulling the changes
Apr 01 19:50:59 <m_w> ?
Apr 01 19:51:33 <pmezydlo> Github says that there are no changes
Apr 01 19:52:25 <pmezydlo> propably after your new commit I can do new pull for my repo
Apr 01 19:55:42 <m_w> This branch is 2 commits behind mwelling:master.
Apr 01 19:57:18 <m_w> you can try doing the pull from the command line
Apr 01 19:59:09 <pmezydlo> ok I will  try
Apr 01 20:00:31 <m_w> you can just add a remote with my repository
Apr 01 20:01:44 <m_w> git remota add upstream https://github.com/mwelling/beagle-wire.git
Apr 01 20:01:57 <m_w> git pull upstream master
Apr 01 20:02:33 <m_w> ...
Apr 01 20:03:37 <pmezydlo> i have
Apr 01 20:03:39 <pmezydlo> thank
Apr 01 20:03:43 <pmezydlo> thanks
Apr 01 20:03:50 <m_w> did it work?
Apr 01 20:04:26 <m_w> it think the backwards pull request confused things
Apr 01 20:06:29 <pmezydlo> I have latest version with sdram
Apr 01 20:06:36 <m_w> okay
Apr 01 20:06:59 <m_w> you can add the eeprom and whatever else now
Apr 01 20:06:59 <NP95> ds2
Apr 01 20:07:02 <pmezydlo> I will add some things and make commits should be ok
Apr 01 20:07:26 <m_w> anything you are comfortable adding before going to sleep
Apr 01 20:08:41 <m_w> then do a pull request and I will work on the initial component placement later today
Apr 01 20:09:08 <pmezydlo> i will let you know when i finish
Apr 01 20:48:34 <NP95> ds2?
Apr 01 21:09:33 <zeekhuge> Hi Akki !
Apr 01 21:09:53 <Akki> hello
Apr 01 21:10:03 <zeekhuge> is your proposal on the elinux page ?
Apr 01 21:10:15 <zeekhuge> I mean .. is it a doc or elinux page ?
Apr 01 21:10:21 <Akki> no it's  a google doc
Apr 01 21:11:06 <zeekhuge> please create a elinux page. This year mentors would NOT preffer to comment on a google-doc
Apr 01 21:11:37 <zeekhuge> also, did you get the answer for your yesterday's question ?
Apr 01 21:12:06 <Akki> no not till now
Apr 01 21:12:16 <NP95> ds2?
Apr 01 21:12:44 <zeekhuge> Just a side note, things will get a bit easy if you install get a client.
Apr 01 21:12:49 <zeekhuge> IRC client
Apr 01 21:13:06 <zeekhuge> and use the same nickname.
Apr 01 21:13:23 <zeekhuge> anyway .... your decision though ..
Apr 01 21:13:41 <Akki> which one to prefer , i tried but no one was able to connect to server
Apr 01 21:14:02 <Akki> may be due to proxy issues of our wifi
Apr 01 21:14:10 <zeekhuge> try IRCcloud
Apr 01 21:14:44 <zeekhuge> and about PRUs .
Apr 01 21:15:00 <zeekhuge> so there is a manual that defined everything about the PRUs
Apr 01 21:15:08 <zeekhuge> let me find it ..
Apr 01 21:16:00 <zeekhuge> https://github.com/beagleboard/am335x_pru_package/
Apr 01 21:16:18 <zeekhuge> you see PruReferenceGuide there ? thats the one
Apr 01 21:16:26 <zeekhuge> it will tell you everything ..
Apr 01 21:16:39 <zeekhuge> there you go ! looks like IRCCloud worked
Apr 01 21:17:18 <zeekhuge> Now settle on a nick name.
Apr 01 21:17:23 <Akki> yep.. much better than hexchat
Apr 01 21:17:57 <zeekhuge> but note that the free-version of IRCCloud has some limitations.
Apr 01 21:18:21 <zeekhuge> do you have a beaglebone black ?
Apr 01 21:18:30 <Akki> both black and green
Apr 01 21:18:57 <zeekhuge> did you try getting a blinky on the PRUs ?
Apr 01 21:19:24 <Akki> yes and it worked easily
Apr 01 21:19:36 <zeekhuge> Cool ! try few other things ...
Apr 01 21:19:49 <zeekhuge> also as a requirement ..
Apr 01 21:19:58 <zeekhuge> you need to be able to crosscompie the kernel
Apr 01 21:20:30 <zeekhuge> I would choose *-ti-* kernle. Doing PRUs things on it is comparitively easy
Apr 01 21:20:48 <Akki_> currently i m trying to understand the labs in pru-software-support-package
Apr 01 21:20:49 <zeekhuge> I probably have something to make things a bit more easier  maybe ..
Apr 01 21:21:16 <zeekhuge> https://www.zeekhuge.me/post/a_handfull_of_commands_and_scripts_to_get_started_with_beagleboneblack/
Apr 01 21:21:27 <zeekhuge> you see the kernel development section there ?
Apr 01 21:21:46 <zeekhuge> it has a few pointer that might be helpful.
Apr 01 21:22:21 * zeekhuge 's eyes are almost closed. Sleepy. But will stay up ....
Apr 01 21:23:05 <zeekhuge> Try understanding the pru_package
Apr 01 21:23:19 <zeekhuge> and read the docs, They will help you a lot.
Apr 01 21:23:44 <zeekhuge> But first thing would probably be to create elinux page.
Apr 01 21:24:25 <zeekhuge> MENTORS' COMMENTS IS THE MOST IMP PART
Apr 01 21:24:32 <zeekhuge> thats my experience atleast ..
Apr 01 21:25:31 <Akki_> yep .. working on it. But things would become more comfortable if you could tell me how defining a register named __R30 in a c code , it get directly linked to the one in the PRU
Apr 01 21:26:29 <zeekhuge> well, since you were able to get the blinky thing, you know that theres a different compiler for PRU C/C++ code.
Apr 01 21:26:34 <zeekhuge> its CLPRU
Apr 01 21:27:31 <Akki_> ok
Apr 01 21:28:27 <zeekhuge> so its like hardcoded inside the CLPRU
Apr 01 21:28:44 <zeekhuge> to automatically use _R30 and _R31 as those registers inside the PRUs
Apr 01 21:29:02 <Akki_> ok got it.
Apr 01 21:29:25 <Akki_> and one more thing suggest some free IRC Client...
Apr 01 21:30:14 <zeekhuge> no idea which one will work over proxy. Sorry for that .
Apr 01 21:30:51 <Akki_> so do you pay for IRC Cloud?
Apr 01 21:32:04 <zeekhuge> nope ! :P The free version works for me .. ! but one should be aware of the limitations.
Apr 01 21:43:53 <eff> hello need information about the gsoc project porting usb based bootloader server from C to js
Apr 01 21:45:39 <eff> from what I understand I have to take the bootloader and port it to js, which would run on some host, so whenever beaglebone connects to that host the js bootloader should run on the beagle
Apr 01 21:46:00 <eff> Can anyone separate the host pc part and the target side for me
Apr 01 21:46:16 <eff> will the bootloader in js run on the host or on the target
Apr 01 21:46:31 <eff> nerdboy: anyhelp here
Apr 01 21:54:35 <zeekhuge> how can bootloader be in js ? really ?
Apr 01 21:57:37 <zeekhuge> as far as I know, there will be a node.js server that will allow the initial bootloader to get the bootable-Image over usb.
Apr 01 21:57:50 <zeekhuge> and that node.js server would be on a host machine.
Apr 01 21:58:44 <zeekhuge> Atleast thats how BBBlfs works ... somewhat ..
Apr 01 21:59:24 <zeekhuge> and to port it to node.js for better compatibility around different host machines.
Apr 01 22:01:26 <eff_> yup that makes sense the server should be on nodejs, that takes the bootimage and flashes the bbb
Apr 01 22:47:11 <pmezydlo> m_w: I couldnt find switch, if you want you can add a few switch.
Apr 01 22:47:28 <pmezydlo> I just made a pull request
Apr 01 22:56:05 <NP95> hey zeekhuge
Apr 01 22:56:28 <NP95> Regarding PRU
**** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Apr 02 03:00:01 2017