**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 18 03:00:02 2017 Apr 18 10:47:30 m_w: I wrote a pcf file for beaglewire, all signals are assigned to pin, Can I push it to ours repository? Apr 18 10:50:22 and I think we have an small gaps on board. All signals related with clk domain should be connected with GBIN pins. Apr 18 17:19:19 hey Apr 18 17:20:17 m_w: I tried to make ReactJS run on the BeagleBoard; just wanted to let you know that it's working as expected Apr 18 17:34:39 ordsen: awesome Apr 18 17:35:11 hey m_w, what version of kicad did you use for the pocketbone? Apr 18 17:35:18 pmezydlo: I think we might want a separate repository for FPGA specifics Apr 18 17:35:28 ds2: lemme see Apr 18 17:36:10 m_w: apt-get's version can't open it Apr 18 17:36:19 ds2: it is a version I built in 2015 Apr 18 17:36:58 ds2: yeah the apt repos have ancient versions sometimes Apr 18 17:37:16 ds2: you using debian or ubuntu? Apr 18 17:37:55 m_w: mint Apr 18 17:38:09 ah Apr 18 17:38:20 m_w: do you have gerbers or PDFs of the layers somewhere? Apr 18 17:38:29 all I wanted to do was see how full did you make the layers Apr 18 17:38:38 trying to do a 1 layer design :D Apr 18 17:38:46 :) Apr 18 17:39:00 okay Apr 18 17:39:22 you can see the layer plots on the hackadayio page Apr 18 17:39:49 logs or? Apr 18 17:39:55 there wasn't much there Apr 18 17:40:08 https://hackaday.io/project/19495/gallery#6c5515410999eccaff7527782eedeeab Apr 18 17:40:21 https://hackaday.io/project/19495/gallery#6c5515410999eccaff7527782eedeeab Apr 18 17:40:28 https://hackaday.io/project/19495/gallery#0e4b1c13f4b37115975d01e08b3f9487 Apr 18 17:40:34 https://hackaday.io/project/19495/gallery#465e964691fe6da20efe2da55ea0647d Apr 18 17:40:38 https://hackaday.io/project/19495/gallery#0ad5c2a7eeca5c24055615c06b9035fe Apr 18 17:41:07 https://hackaday.io/project/19495-pocketbone-kicad/log/53087-routing-complete Apr 18 17:41:25 m_w: I will create software repository and push pcf file, Apr 18 17:41:28 the logs are hidden after a few posts Apr 18 17:41:48 pmezydlo: I think that should be fine Apr 18 17:42:02 pmezydlo: you get any community feedback yet? Apr 18 17:42:27 thanks Apr 18 17:42:35 my post on twitter got some feedback and likes Apr 18 17:43:47 about routing I don't have any anyone opinion, but everyone likes a boards Apr 18 17:43:51 https://twitter.com/QwertyEmbedded/status/853852405959712768 Apr 18 17:43:59 ahhhh, I see what you did there Apr 18 17:44:19 thats awesome Apr 18 17:44:49 I do a belt and suspends layout and you do the bare min... explains why I am so confined on my 1 layer routing Apr 18 17:45:46 ds2: 1 layer routing would be a nightmare Apr 18 17:46:19 m_w: not really. I have it routed Apr 18 17:46:22 pmezydlo: even clifford wolf liked the design :) Apr 18 17:46:43 but I took a harder path, putting in redundant grounds/power Apr 18 17:46:56 ds2: must not be breaking about much Apr 18 17:47:10 m_w: I had to give up USB Apr 18 17:47:30 m_w: biggest issue there was no good way to control impedence Apr 18 17:48:09 you routing anything high speed? Apr 18 17:48:12 m_w: what size passives are you using? Apr 18 17:48:18 m_w: of course not :D Apr 18 17:48:23 0402 Apr 18 17:48:33 for the most part Apr 18 17:48:39 another compromise... using 0603 Apr 18 17:48:43 few 0603 Apr 18 17:49:33 I recommend the r-nets for the boot configuration if the board is small Apr 18 17:49:54 how big is your board? Apr 18 17:49:58 3.5x2 Apr 18 17:50:12 trying to use simple/stone age board level tech Apr 18 17:50:30 0603 fits fine for boot config Apr 18 17:50:37 personal or work project? Apr 18 17:50:59 personal Apr 18 17:51:17 will eventually be written up Apr 18 17:51:34 very cool Apr 18 17:51:37 m_w: goal is to have a simple enough board to not require a modern board fab Apr 18 17:51:46 and simple enough for self assembly too Apr 18 17:52:06 m_w: In free time I will be writing a few lines of code for beaglewire support, and I want to write more documentation, support I want to create with or without gsoc Apr 18 17:52:13 lack of soldermask is a bit unnerving Apr 18 17:52:35 pmezydlo: are you build the board or is m_w building it? Apr 18 17:53:04 ds2: I think we will both be assembling a few Apr 18 17:53:18 we worked together Apr 18 17:53:34 go team! Apr 18 17:54:10 pmezydlo: I found that it is $100 USD for 3 PCBs at OSH park Apr 18 17:54:21 aren't you guys geographically seperate? Apr 18 17:54:42 yes he is over the pond Apr 18 17:55:00 Poland and USA this is 12 huers fly Apr 18 17:55:28 flight Apr 18 17:56:43 for whatever reason the pocketbone design has garnished quite a following, I might have to actually do a real run of them Apr 18 17:57:16 I had a few delays on my home assembly but I will be making a few at home very soon Apr 18 17:57:41 after that I will probably make 3 of the beaglewire Apr 18 17:58:55 m_w: can I ask for one beaglewire Apr 18 17:59:20 I miss a lot of elements in Poland Apr 18 17:59:31 pmezydlo: sure Apr 18 17:59:52 I can use the oshpark discount code with feeling guilty then Apr 18 17:59:59 ;) Apr 18 18:00:25 yeah feel free Apr 18 18:01:09 pmezydlo: I was doing a review of the design and saw that the tab of the 2 LDOs is not connected Apr 18 18:01:50 I think that these tabs are typically connected to the power and used for heatsink Apr 18 18:02:46 do you have to improve it, Apr 18 18:02:55 could you check the datasheet and confirm this? Apr 18 18:04:51 yeah after 1 hour, now I want to go to store Apr 18 18:05:21 okay Apr 18 18:20:15 m_w: According to the documentation you should connect them to gnd, I have to change components Apr 18 18:21:03 I want add additional leg with gnd Apr 18 18:24:12 I can change it if you have something to push then do it Apr 18 18:31:52 my local copy has already been pushed Apr 18 18:32:14 you should have the latest Apr 18 19:45:02 m_w: I finished, what do you think? I was thinking about small polygon Apr 18 19:45:35 but I did a broader trace Apr 18 19:59:36 merged **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Apr 19 03:00:03 2017