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May 22 12:22:47 <vaishnav98_[m]> jkridner ravikp7: I have uploaded a draft introduction video here: https://youtu.be/XwjVL4hbSdE , can you please have a look at it and suggest any modifications/addition required.
May 22 14:39:49 <jkridner[m]> vaishnav98_: just finished watching the video.
May 22 14:39:52 <jkridner[m]> thanks!
May 22 14:40:25 <jkridner[m]> video seems fine, but it does highlight some potential things to think about.
May 22 14:41:37 <jkridner[m]> when specifying slots, do you know how the pin mapping will be resolved? I hope we can keep the same manifest file for any slot and the abstraction would be resolved by the rest of the system. Same for BeagleBone Black with mikroBus Cape vs. PocketBeagle.
May 22 14:41:41 <jkridner[m]> hi driain
May 22 14:42:06 <jkridner[m]> pranav_kumar: do you have a link to the wiki page you created?
May 22 14:43:53 <jkridner[m]> embden_: thanks for adding a project entry on the wiki page as well. I encourage you to give notices here in this channel. always nice to take some credit for doing a task, even if it is fairly small. I like knowing that you are actually doing some work. ;-)
May 22 14:44:49 <jkridner[m]> We should figure out if the project pages should be different than the proposal pages.
May 22 14:45:14 <jkridner[m]> ...and try to be consistent. the point is to try to make it easy for your work to be discovered and used.
May 22 14:46:17 <jkridner[m]> I don't want to make it to burdensome, but do want to open up a lot of communication via the wikis and make it easy for people to find the latest information on the project.
May 22 14:46:17 <pranav_kumar[m]> I am preparing the video @jkridner:matrix.org
May 22 14:47:05 <pranav_kumar[m]> Regarding the wiki page i didnot get the idea how to format it
May 22 14:47:50 <pranav_kumar[m]> So i just created the link for my page
May 22 14:51:16 <jkridner[m]> vaishnav98_: in addition to the pin mapping, I thought the definition of "AP Bridge" and "SVC" was lacking. Finally, I also thought of your work on Makecode and thought we shared a vision on how insclick/rmclick could eventually be added as a graphical drag-and-drop component for enabling usage of Clicks on TechLab or MikroBUS Cape. Maybe we didn't talk about that enough, since it is out-of-scope for this project
May 22 14:51:17 <jkridner[m]> itself, but it might help people understand how this project could eventually be consumed.
May 22 14:52:41 <jkridner[m]> <embden_ " @jkridner:matrix.org you might "> wow, that is a nice summary. I guess putting it all on one page can work and make sense. I've been spreading it out quite a bit.
May 22 14:53:18 <jkridner[m]> The big reason I've wanted weekly e-mails is because it draws in some of the mentors who pay more attention to e-mail than IRC or wikis.
May 22 14:54:25 <pranav_kumar[m]> https://elinux.org/Beagleboard_gsoc_2019_bi-directional_progress
May 22 14:54:28 <jkridner[m]> we used to require blogging, but have dropped that more recently as blog aggregators have faded.
May 22 14:55:15 <vaishnav98_[m]> <jkridner[m] "when specifying slots, do you kn"> jkridner: Thank you, I need to think about resolving the pin mapping, I also believe that same manifest can be used for any slot and system.
May 22 14:56:37 <jkridner[m]> embden_: let me get some feedback from the mentors today and I'll update if the requirement should be changed to us all editing a common wiki page. I can sign up to do the initial consolidation.
May 22 14:59:16 <vaishnav98_[m]> <jkridner[m] "vaishnav98_: in addition to the "> jkridner: Sure, I'll update the parts of the video to include definitions for AP bridge and SVC. Yes, I also thought of finally combining the insclick/rmclick with the Makecode target for easy loading/unloading of clicks on Techlab/mikrobus cape, I'll include that too in the video
May 22 15:51:29 <Abhishek_1> Hi all
May 22 15:52:25 <vaishnav98_[m]> Hi all
May 22 15:52:39 <Abhishek_1> pratimugale : I won't be around for the meeting but give me the updates now. I saw that you're working on the video which is good
May 22 15:53:21 <Abhishek_1> Whatever you'd like to discuss, put it here on IRC. I'll take a look and get back to you
May 22 15:54:21 <pratimugale[m]> abhishek_: yes, I have been working on video, I'll put it out tonight or by tomorrow
May 22 15:55:44 <Abhishek_1> Ok
May 22 15:56:19 <Abhishek_1> Coding period starts next week, so I hope students are ready for that :)
May 22 15:58:43 <Abhishek_1> Good luck to all of you. I'll catch up tomorrow morning with the proceedings.
May 22 15:59:18 <pratimugale[m]> <Abhishek_1 "Whatever you'd like to discuss, "> okay
May 22 15:59:31 <vaishnav98_[m]> <Abhishek_1 "Good luck to all of you. I'll ca"> abhishek_ : Thank you :)
May 22 16:02:54 <ravikp7[m]> Hi all!
May 22 16:03:23 <ravikp7[m]> vaishnav98_: now watching your video
May 22 16:03:30 <hendersa> pranav_kumar[m]: Are you here?
May 22 16:03:35 <vaishnav98_[m]> ravikp7 : Hi
May 22 16:04:30 <pranav_kumar[m]> hello
May 22 16:04:33 <pranav_kumar[m]> yes
May 22 16:05:38 <hendersa> I looked at the mail that you sent about your difficulty in finding the 8-bit universal shift registers at an affordable price.
May 22 16:06:05 <hendersa> Is it easier for you to find 4-bit universal shift registers? The 74LS194?
May 22 16:07:11 <pranav_kumar[m]> ok i will find and order them today
May 22 16:07:34 <hendersa> The universal shift registers are needed for bi-directional bus communication. I think this is much easier than trying to use a 74HC595 and a 74HC165 to go from serial-to-parallel and vice-versa.
May 22 16:08:39 <pranav_kumar[m]> but that seem to increse the no of ic interfacing what do say about this
May 22 16:08:56 <pranav_kumar[m]> its true that they are widely availble
May 22 16:10:13 <hendersa> That is OK for a project like this. The focus is on your providing a sample implementation on the software side. It should be simple for someone to add whatever combination of 4/8-bit shift registers are needed to make a bus of an arbitrary width.
May 22 16:12:11 <hendersa> I will be away from my desk for a short while, but I will be back around the start of the scheduled GSOC meeting time (about 20 minutes or so).
May 22 16:12:27 <pranav_kumar[m]> ok then it will largely improve the project implemation as i will be less dependent on the specific type of ic to be used
May 22 16:18:58 <pranav_kumar[m]> also i received a mail from mouser regarding the shipment fee they are saying that they can help in that matter of shipment fee. So if they get hcagree on removing the shipment fee then i will try to buy that 74hc299 chip from the mouser india site. As it seems that product listed on mouser india site as shiped directly from USA. So it led to high shiping fee here in india.I think.
May 22 16:26:18 <cwicks[m]> Hello mentors and students!
May 22 16:26:52 <pratimugale[m]> cwicks: hi
May 22 16:26:59 <pranav_kumar[m]> hello
May 22 16:27:01 <vaishnav98_[m]> cwicks : Hi
May 22 16:28:31 <cwicks[m]> Excited to begin another summer of code.
May 22 16:31:06 <jkridner[m]> gm all
May 22 16:31:38 <vaishnav98_[m]> jkridner: Hi
May 22 16:31:52 <jkridner[m]> glad to see you pranav_kumar vaishnav98_ pratimugale ...  embden_ was around earlier too.
May 22 16:31:58 <pratimugale[m]> jkridner: gm
May 22 16:32:09 <jkridner[m]> who all is around on the mentor side?
May 22 16:32:33 <ds2> morning
May 22 16:35:18 <ravikp7[m]> +1
May 22 16:36:47 <pranav_kumar[m]> hendersa: plz review the mail
May 22 16:40:12 <cwicks[m]> Can each student introduce and tell us if this is your first gsoc and where you go to school and a link to your video if finished?  Start with vaushnav?
May 22 16:41:14 <vaishnav98_[m]> cwicks : Sure
May 22 16:45:12 <vaishnav98_[m]> Hi all , this is my second gsoc , my first gsoc participation was with beagleboard itself and I was working on the project : Fixing bugs in bonescript and improving Beaglebone UI under the mentorship of jkridner , anujdeshpande and m_w .
May 22 16:45:13 <vaishnav98_[m]> I am a third year undergraduate student majoring in Electronics and Communication Engineering at College of Engineering Trivandrum,Kerala,India.
May 22 16:45:14 <vaishnav98_[m]> I have finished preparing a draft version of the introduction video and it is available here: https://youtu.be/XwjVL4hbSdE
May 22 16:47:25 <jkridner[m]> vaishnav98_: any advice you'd give new GSoCers?
May 22 16:47:42 <jkridner[m]> note: embden_ has GSoC experience, just not with BeagleBoard.org.
May 22 16:49:03 <jkridner[m]> while there is some quiet... I'll also mention that May 27 is official start-of-coding with first evaluations starting June 24.
May 22 16:49:58 <jkridner[m]> vaishnav98_: please be honest with any suggestions to new students to best manage us in helping to be successful.
May 22 16:52:13 <ds2> note - may 27 is a holiday in the US
May 22 16:53:03 <ds2> this makes a long weekend (sat/sun/mon)
May 22 16:53:32 <jkridner[m]> grrr;... my #beagle-gsoc window and riot don't agree.
May 22 16:54:30 <vaishnav98_[m]> <jkridner[m] "vaishnav98_: any advice you'd gi"> GSoC has been a really wonderful experience for me, the most important  point I'd like to tell the first time GSoC'ers is that whenever you are stuck somewhere during coding it would be best to describe the issue in the IRC and ask for help from mentors and other students instead of trying to solve all the issues yourself, it is highly likely that someone might have
May 22 16:54:30 <vaishnav98_[m]> experienced the same issue you are facing and could help you out of it quickly. Another suggestion is to include short demonstration videos in your weekly reports which will really help the mentors understand the project progress.
May 22 16:55:13 <ds2> also be patient with IRC. Sometimes it is not instant
May 22 16:55:39 <vaishnav98_[m]> <jkridner[m] "vaishnav98_: please be honest wi"> jkridner: Sorry for the delay in response, I am facing connectivity issues
May 22 16:55:52 <pranav_kumar[m]> thanks for the suggestion vaishnav98_
May 22 16:56:15 <cwicks[m]> Thanks Vaishnav I in particular like to see the progress video demos.
May 22 16:56:49 <cwicks[m]> Pratim would you like to go next?
May 22 16:57:23 <pratimugale[m]> <vaishnav98_[m] "GSoC has been a really wonderful"> vaishnav98_: Thanks for your help :)
May 22 16:57:31 <pratimugale[m]> <cwicks[m] "Pratim would you like to go next"> Sure
May 22 17:03:39 * jkridner[m] taps fingers
May 22 17:04:05 <pratimugale[m]> Hello everyone, my name is Pratim and this is my first participation in GSoC. I'll be working on the project 'PRU User Space API' under the mentorship of zeekhuge , abhishek_ and @pmezydlo. I am in my second year of engineering studying Information Technology at Veermata Jijabai Technological Institute(VJTI), Mumbai. I will upload my introduction video by tomorrow. Excited to work with BeagleBoard.org! :)
May 22 17:08:05 <cwicks[m]> Thanks Pratim. Just a reminder to all the students to have a good connection to the internet for meeting time.
May 22 17:08:23 <cwicks[m]> Pranav will you go next?
May 22 17:11:32 <pranav_kumar[m]> Hello everyone, my name is Pranav Kumar, This is my first participation in gsoc i will be working on Reference Design For A GPIO-based Parallel Bi-Directional Bus under the mentorship of Andrew Henderson, Kumar Abhishek, Hunyue Yau . I am third year undergraduate student form UIET, Panjab University,Chandigarh, India persuing electronics and communication engineering.
May 22 17:11:32 <jkridner[m]> <embden_ "small update: I have uploaded my"> do you have a layman's example of how a hypervisor helps with safety and security you can add? not sure how easy that is to add to your video.
May 22 17:12:01 <pranav_kumar[m]> i will soon upload the the intro video
May 22 17:12:51 <cwicks[m]> Thanks Pranav.
May 22 17:13:06 <cwicks[m]> Is Denis with us?
May 22 17:15:45 <jkridner[m]> > Can each student introduce and tell us if this is your first gsoc and where you go to school and a link to your video if finished?  Start with vaushnav?
May 22 17:16:20 <jkridner[m]> embden_: your turn.
May 22 17:17:52 <pratimugale[m]> <embden_ "I have only one suggestion to ne"> Thanks :)
May 22 17:23:10 <ds2> embden: I cna see it
May 22 17:23:52 <pranav_kumar[m]> <embden_ "I have only one suggestion to ne"> thanks
May 22 17:27:15 <cwicks[m]> <pranav_kumar[m] "thanks"> Thanks very much to all the students. Any mentors with general advice?
May 22 17:27:32 <zeekhuge[m]> I can see embden_ as well.
May 22 17:30:43 <zeekhuge[m]> I would just like to give the advice, which was given by av500 when I was student : "Don't expect the code to produce different results simply by hitting 'run' again and again."
May 22 17:31:03 <ds2> never just sit on a problem - always ask
May 22 17:31:41 <ds2> and on IRC, just ask on this channel. Due to the timezone differences (or other work), it may take a little time but usually someone will respond if they can
May 22 17:32:18 <hendersa> Commit early and often to a project-specific git repo so that the mentors can get a feel for how and what is being done.
May 22 17:32:19 <ds2> zeekhuge[m]: not sure if I agree with that esp if the results are dependent on the PRU's input lines ;)
May 22 17:33:37 <zeekhuge[m]> Exception added :)
May 22 17:34:49 <vaishnav98_[m]> ds2 zeekhuge hendersa : Thank you
May 22 17:35:17 <ds2> oh and don't think you are limited to just asking your assigned mentors
May 22 17:37:16 <jkridner> https://gist.github.com/jadonk/87b1b00a4c83d22028f449883e61f1cb is now updated with an attempt on the Host and Client.
May 22 17:37:25 <jkridner> just don't know what to do with bt-network as the client.
May 22 17:37:42 <jkridner> not sure I did it right on the host either w/o the NAT.
May 22 17:37:49 <cwicks[m]> Next week we’ll have the mentors answer a question about themselves.
May 22 17:37:55 <jkridner> doh... wrong room. :-)
May 22 17:38:26 <cwicks[m]> Any closing comments @jkridner?
May 22 17:38:39 <cwicks[m]> Coding starts next week.
May 22 17:38:44 <jkridner[m]> well.... I'm expecting to see a LOT more traffic here....
May 22 17:39:04 <jkridner[m]> keyboards with touch typing and as good as network connections as you can get.
May 22 17:39:19 <jkridner[m]> and lots of interaction with peers and mentors.
May 22 17:39:34 <jkridner[m]> we are on-ramping you to the community, not just writing a few lines of code.
May 22 17:39:45 <jkridner[m]> we want you to not just succeed, but exceed.
May 22 17:40:03 <jkridner[m]> we want you to enjoy the time and feel empowered by what you've learned.
May 22 17:40:16 <jkridner[m]> use this time and the very valuable attention from your mentors.
May 22 17:40:23 <pranav_kumar[m]> any good screen capturing software because i didnot able to get good audio quality with the video
May 22 17:40:41 <jkridner[m]> never be scared to ask questions....
May 22 17:40:51 <jkridner[m]> ask lots and reference http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html how to do so best.
May 22 17:42:07 <jkridner[m]> that's my last remarks until we meet again.... but I'll be around here as often as I can.
May 22 17:44:23 <pratimugale[m]> jkridnerzeekhuge ds2 hendersa Thank you
May 22 17:44:23 <cwicks[m]> Thanks Jason. Students feel free to continue with this channel with your mentors.
May 22 17:44:47 <pranav_kumar[m]> thanks you
May 22 17:44:56 <cwicks[m]> The official meeting time is over. If you didn’t post your video yet please come back and post it ASAP.
May 22 17:45:22 <vaishnav98_[m]> jkridner: Thank you
May 22 17:45:30 <jkridner> vaishnav98_[m]: :-)
May 22 17:46:00 <vaishnav98_[m]> jkridner ravikp7: I think I was able to fix the previous issue with running gbsim, I tried debugging issues with each dependency one by one and found that the libusbg dependency was not being setup up properly by running the examples that come with the library, I was able to fix the issue by updating the dependency to the latest version: https://github.com/libusbgx/libusbgx , now I am able to run all the
May 22 17:46:01 <vaishnav98_[m]> examples(show-gadgets..) without issues, the gbsim still shows errors while running due to dependency mismatch, I hope modifying the gbsim sources to account for the change can solve the issue, am planning to work on it now.
May 22 17:46:12 <pranav_kumar[m]> plz suggest me a good video making software the one i am using does provide me good audio quality
May 22 17:46:22 <jkridner> pranav_kumar[m]: I've started using OBS Studio and I rather like it.
May 22 17:46:44 <jkridner> I'm still brand new to it, but it seems to be rather flexible.
May 22 17:47:16 <pranav_kumar[m]> thanks for the suggestion i will upload as soon as possible
May 22 22:09:19 <pranav_kumar[m]> my project introduction video ☺ plz provide feedback on it https://youtu.be/ZZDT6jNslqw
May 22 22:20:45 <julieng> embden: jkridner: Something is probably wrong in my setup. I don't seem to see any message from embden. Just reply from the ">".
May 22 22:23:01 <julieng> jkridner: embden: I have just restarted my IRC client. Lets see if I can see message from embden.
May 22 22:23:37 <julieng> embden: Can you try to send me a message and send me an e-mail?
May 22 22:24:47 <embden[m]> julieng: I've written you a message from IRC and now I am writing from matrix
May 22 22:25:32 <julieng> embden[m]: It seems to work now... I will keep an eye on it.
May 22 22:25:44 <embden[m]> julieng: can you see both?
May 22 22:27:21 <julieng> embden[m]: I only saw two messages from embden[m]. Did you send any other message?
May 22 22:27:41 <julieng> When I looked I the log from the meeting today, I someone only have the reply from jkridner. Nothing from you.
May 22 22:28:23 <embden[m]> message 2
May 22 22:28:51 <embden[m]> I've just sent "message 1" and "message 2"
May 22 22:30:07 <embden[m]> julieng:
May 22 22:31:41 <julieng> embden[m]: I only received "message 2"
May 22 22:32:08 <julieng> embden[m]: Did you send "message 1" from a different account?
May 22 22:57:59 <embden[m]> julieng: I send it via IRC
May 22 22:58:05 <embden[m]> sent*
May 22 22:59:51 <embden[m]> julieng: right now, I am writing via matrix (https://riot.im/app/#/room/#freenode_#beagle-gsoc:matrix.org)
May 23 02:14:12 <zeekhuge[m]> pratimugale: hey ! What's the status of the intro-video ?
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