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Feb 18 05:10:37 <Russ> so apparently there is an issue where SFO can't handle low clouds
Feb 18 05:11:42 <Russ> http://flightaware.com/live/airport/KSFO
Feb 18 06:01:39 <mranostay> Russ: stuck here?
Feb 18 06:01:52 <Russ> just delayed
Feb 18 06:05:08 <mranostay> Russ: where you flying back to?
Feb 18 06:05:14 <Russ> phoenix
Feb 18 06:05:36 <mranostay> ah trini get delayed as well?
Feb 18 06:05:55 <mranostay> or all flights in SFO?
Feb 18 06:06:01 <Russ> all
Feb 18 06:07:37 <mranostay> fun
Feb 18 06:14:09 <_av500_> clouds, how unusual
Feb 18 06:29:21 <dm8tbr> hmm, let's see how it will look tomorrow for me
Feb 18 09:30:14 <aholler_> just add some more boxes to the cloud and everything will become fine ...
Feb 18 09:55:31 <aholler> s/add/throw/
Feb 18 10:02:50 <etheretic> beagleboxes?
Feb 18 10:05:58 <etheretic> the upcoming "iron sky" flick has a pertinent quote - "All Presidents who start a war in their first term get re-elected." O'Bummer has to hurry.
Feb 18 10:18:22 <_av500_> there is the war on the 1%
Feb 18 10:18:35 <_av500_> typical US war that cannot be won
Feb 18 10:19:28 <_av500_> they just keep pouring money into it too
Feb 18 10:22:03 <aholler> old trick, politicans are in for wars to hide national problems
Feb 18 10:22:10 <aholler> s/in/in need/
Feb 18 10:26:47 <etheretic> _av500_: on the 99%, you mean?
Feb 18 10:26:54 <etheretic> 99.9
Feb 18 10:59:44 <_av500_> no
Feb 18 11:11:55 <etheretic> that's the core of "the elite" - a bunch of ancient intermarrying bloodlines with their client families. controlling the central banks (the credit monopoly) they control nearly everything else, including what you watch on tv and learn at school/uni. i.e. the worldview of most people.
Feb 18 11:12:59 <aholler> someone should make the topic more descriptive. It seems to be hardto understand
Feb 18 11:13:26 <etheretic> hey, it's saturday.
Feb 18 11:14:53 <aholler> so you are buying cars at the baker and bread at the electronic-shop on saturday?
Feb 18 11:17:02 <etheretic> that's offtopic. :*)
Feb 18 11:40:42 <sundar> the elite is part of the mafia?
Feb 18 11:58:09 <etheretic> ahoy snaakje.
Feb 18 11:58:36 <woglinde> snakeeye
Feb 18 11:58:52 <snaakje> Mornin'.
Feb 18 11:58:55 <etheretic> sundar: the maf are/were family based.
Feb 18 11:59:44 <etheretic> families/dynasties are the only real powerbase on this planet.
Feb 18 11:59:55 <sundar> yes 100% true
Feb 18 12:00:54 <sundar> generation after generation dynasties rule lands.
Feb 18 12:03:45 <sundar> in the US, why is it that republican parties are war hungry than the democratic?
Feb 18 12:04:20 <etheretic> sundar: roleplaying?
Feb 18 12:05:30 <etheretic> not so sure you're right, 'tho. o'bummer isn't exactly a white dove.
Feb 18 12:06:24 <etheretic> a war criminal with a peace prize. erk.
Feb 18 13:48:43 <SilicaGel2>  you would think i'd be able to find a $0.50 linear 300mA regulator with a current sense output.
Feb 18 13:49:06 <woglinde_> gm silicagel
Feb 18 13:49:45 <SilicaGel2> hi there
Feb 18 13:51:02 <SilicaGel2> I don't know who david gum is, but good blog post this morning re: cape eeprom id spec
Feb 18 13:51:41 <SilicaGel2> well, the thread is interesting
Feb 18 13:51:48 <SilicaGel2> not necessarily the initial queson hhe
Feb 18 13:52:20 <SilicaGel2> it make it seem like the lcd cape is progressing
Feb 18 13:52:55 <SilicaGel2> What's our plan to make use of that from swing?  :-P
Feb 18 14:22:14 <carli2> hi. are there complete circuits for soldering a motor on the beagle board? or do I have to calculate it on my own?
Feb 18 14:56:08 * mranostay yawns
Feb 18 14:56:29 <mranostay> carli2: you powering it with PWM?
Feb 18 14:56:53 <carli2> mranostay: i'd like to.
Feb 18 14:58:23 <carli2> mranostay: my default thoughts on this were to put a resistor and the base of a bipolar transistor to the gpio pin, calculate R, emmiter to ground, battery+motor to collector.
Feb 18 15:00:56 <carli2> but if someone already did that, could I get the calculated R from him?
Feb 18 15:01:42 <mranostay> what is the voltage rating of the motor?
Feb 18 15:02:31 <carli2> "about" 3 volt
Feb 18 15:02:44 <carli2> for pwm it needs at least 16kHz
Feb 18 15:03:48 <mranostay> carli2: bone or beagle board?
Feb 18 15:03:58 <carli2> mranostay: beagleboard xm
Feb 18 15:09:11 <carli2> it should be 3.3 V i think
Feb 18 15:14:03 <carli2> or can I use the 5v power supply from pin 2?
Feb 18 15:14:34 <carli2> signals are at 1.8V
Feb 18 15:19:43 <carli2> what voltage does the battery have to provide? (page 133)
Feb 18 15:23:29 <carli2> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardPWM
Feb 18 15:23:44 <carli2> there are dead links on the page. (the pwm libraries)
Feb 18 15:24:21 <carli2> are the headers for pwm provided in the demo angstrom distribution?
Feb 18 15:24:37 <carli2> or can I access pwm somewhere in the filesystem?
Feb 18 15:29:12 <carli2> i found pages where they were generating pwm by manipulating gpios. but afaik I don't drive a realtime kernel
Feb 18 15:50:31 <in_big_trouble> hello
Feb 18 15:50:53 <in_big_trouble> can some ple tell me how can i generate this package ?
Feb 18 15:50:54 <in_big_trouble> tar -C / -xvf Angstrom-2011.03-narcissus-beagleboard-i686-2011-03-13-bdde647f-image-sdk.tar.gz
Feb 18 16:21:00 <in_big_trouble> ????????????????????????????*
Feb 18 16:56:30 <_av500_> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Feb 18 16:56:36 * _av500_ wins
Feb 18 16:56:44 <woglinde_> nothing
Feb 18 16:57:34 <woglinde_> in_big_trouble go to the angstroem narcissus website and tailor it for you and download it
Feb 18 17:12:11 <in_big_trouble> listen folks! i am trying to do a cross complilation and its not worling
Feb 18 17:12:15 <in_big_trouble> arggggggggggg!!!!
Feb 18 17:13:19 <carli2> :D that's nothing new
Feb 18 17:13:35 <carli2> what exactly is not worling?
Feb 18 17:14:58 <woglinde_> nothing is working
Feb 18 17:38:28 <woglinde_> who wants to write the next android trojaner?
Feb 18 17:38:32 <woglinde_> http://codereview.chromium.org/9363013/diff/2002/third_party/libpng/pngrutil.c
Feb 18 17:42:21 <carli2> woglinde_: how do you want to execute code with that?
Feb 18 17:42:48 <carli2> woglinde_: and android is 32bit arm, not 64bit
Feb 18 17:43:37 <woglinde_> hi koen
Feb 18 17:46:08 <woglinde_> carli -> and integer overflow
Feb 18 17:46:42 <carli2> woglinde_: ok, you can malloc a negative ammount of memory, but what happens then?
Feb 18 17:47:06 <woglinde_> hm that was not specified by standard I guess
Feb 18 18:16:27 <aholler> use that to raise the amount of available memory
Feb 18 19:20:33 <sbma44> hi all. hoping someone might be able to give me some guidance about getting a wifi adapter configured properly with connman.
Feb 18 19:20:44 <sbma44> I'm having some trouble figuring out how to get it properly configured. `ifup wlan0` works fine at this point, so I'm confident that my drivers and wpa config are in order. per some instructions on the beaglebone list I've installed the connman test scripts. /usr/lib/connman/tests/list-services only lists the device's ethernet interface as a service. however, /var/log/messages makes it look like connman is aware of the wlan interface
Feb 18 19:20:45 <sbma44> (relevant portion of boot log here: http://pastie.org/3409532)
Feb 18 19:21:27 <sbma44> I'm afraid I don't know what I need to do to get this interface to come up, associate with an AP (specified... somewhere? wpa_supplicant's config file?) and grab a DHCP address. at the moment I'm staring at /var/lib/connman/default.profile and wondering if I need to create an entry for the wifi adapter, but I haven't been able to locate any documentation about how to write a new entry in this file
Feb 18 19:32:12 <woglinde_> sbma44 are you sure you are on the riht channel?
Feb 18 19:33:37 <sbma44> well, the connman channel's quite quiet, and I'm afraid that community's documentation and mailing lists leave a lot to be desired. I had hoped someone else working with armstrong on the beaglebone (or beagleboard -- I don't know whether they share this system in common) had run into this
Feb 18 19:33:57 <sbma44> so far the BB mailing list has been the best source of clues for dealing with connman
Feb 18 19:42:09 <thurbad> sbma44: can you get it to come up with ifup <interface>?
Feb 18 19:43:50 <sbma44> thurbad: yup
Feb 18 19:44:01 <thurbad> for instance I have a usb-ethernet adapter that doesn't come up automatically if it's plugged in at boot time, but replugging autostarts it, ifup will start it as well
Feb 18 19:44:20 <sbma44> thurbad: hadn't tried replugging... let me see...
Feb 18 19:45:00 <sbma44> thurbad: nah, replugging doesn't seem to have brought it up
Feb 18 19:45:40 <thurbad> so I put the ifup command inside of ~/.profile
Feb 18 19:45:57 <thurbad> a litle hacky but it works
Feb 18 19:46:41 <sbma44> I had tried that, but using the rc.d system -- saw some very weird behavior relating to scripts not running, which I had assumed was due to connman throwing a fit earlier during boot
Feb 18 19:46:44 <sbma44> I will give this a try though
Feb 18 19:49:16 <sbma44> thurbad: looks promising! but I need this to come up at boot, not just when I log in
Feb 18 19:49:25 <sbma44> I guess I should take another look at what's going on with rc.d
Feb 18 19:49:50 <thurbad> yeah that's a problem with the way I did it :/
Feb 18 19:50:59 <thurbad> did you put the ifup script in rc.d after networking starts?
Feb 18 19:51:28 <thurbad> if the order is wrong it won't work right
Feb 18 19:52:03 <sbma44> well, I tried rc.local, which my sysadmin at work tells me should run absolutely last. but it seems to not run at all -- an armstrong thing?
Feb 18 19:52:06 <sbma44> more details here: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/1ecf3c6e80e04439
Feb 18 19:52:18 <sbma44> I'm going to try to redo the work and see if I just failed to make something executable
Feb 18 20:01:07 <thurbad> sbma44: it's eth0 that's not coming up?
Feb 18 20:46:05 <waxpraxis> Hello!
Feb 18 20:46:42 <waxpraxis> I've been doing some research into getting my BeagleBone working with SPI and the information out there is spotty
Feb 18 20:47:06 <waxpraxis> Has anyone here gotten SPI working properly on the bone?
Feb 19 01:04:06 <etheretic1> http://www2.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/index.html - severe solar storm.
Feb 19 01:04:41 <thurbad> damned polluters :P
Feb 19 01:05:52 <etheretic1> we're not left much choice, except living in the woods from roots & berries.
Feb 19 01:07:17 <etheretic1> thurbad: didst watch "thunderbolts of the gods" (plasma/electric universe doc.)?
Feb 19 01:07:42 <thurbad> nope
Feb 19 01:08:17 <thurbad> never heard of it
Feb 19 01:09:09 <etheretic1> huh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4zixnWeE8A - worth every minute.
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