**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 01 02:59:59 2012 Mar 01 03:14:31 hello Mar 01 03:15:06 who can provide the solution to make the SATA harddisk connect to beaglebone ? Mar 01 03:18:10 a Mar 01 03:18:22 how many of the solution do you need? Mar 01 03:18:30 1Million units? 10million? Mar 01 03:19:08 1000 Mar 01 03:19:30 prepaid NRE up front Mar 01 03:19:57 what is NRE? Mar 01 03:21:53 zhangzq71: a bad deal. Mar 01 03:23:02 I just want to know if it is possible to connect SATA harddisk to beaglebone while there is no SATA controller in AM335X Mar 01 03:24:21 usb-sata adapter? Mar 01 03:26:44 yes, usb-sata is the possible solution Mar 01 03:27:03 is there any sata controller that can be connected to am335x Mar 01 03:34:49 ok, so i got armstrong running right now setting up Mar 01 03:35:23 sata over usb? Mar 01 03:35:50 no, sata to usb Mar 01 03:36:31 thats what i ment sorry Mar 01 03:37:26 usb to sata brisge you have? Mar 01 03:37:30 with beagleboard Xm? Mar 01 03:37:33 shhould work Mar 01 03:39:52 gtk-update-icon-cache fails to open :/ Mar 01 03:39:56 should i restart? Mar 01 03:41:20 damn, gnome wotn work with angstrom :/ Mar 01 03:41:51 m i miaaing aomething? Mar 01 03:42:12 i have a beagleboard c R5 Mar 01 03:44:27 actually I want a sata controller Mar 01 03:45:02 failed to load /etc/gconf/gconf.xml Mar 01 03:49:19 anyone there? Mar 01 04:02:28 prpplague, the connector listed on the beaconboard page is not the connector on the beaconboard Mar 01 04:03:42 thi is anoying Mar 01 04:03:50 whats the point of a irc if no one helps? Mar 01 04:03:59 Russ: doh Mar 01 04:04:09 Russ: too tall? Mar 01 04:05:02 Russ: that was the part that digikey had linked Mar 01 04:06:16 ok one wuestion Mar 01 04:06:40 i build my ststem with narcissuc now, the rootfs image, that goes on the first partition? Mar 01 04:06:50 and the 4 gb image on the second one? Mar 01 04:06:55 im a little lost Mar 01 04:07:44 no the image from narcissus goes on the second partition Mar 01 04:08:08 that's the rootfs Mar 01 04:09:26 then how would i set up the first partition? Mar 01 04:09:43 i did netinstall so my partitions are set Mar 01 04:09:53 so just copy over the img to the second partition? Mar 01 04:10:43 are you following any directions or just sort of winging it? Mar 01 04:10:59 trying anything i can find but they all are failing for me Mar 01 04:11:11 so now just trying to muster up something that will work Mar 01 04:11:22 do you have a linux host pc? Mar 01 04:11:31 yes and im on it right now Mar 01 04:11:41 micro sd in the usb slot right now Mar 01 04:13:31 reformat the first partition and put MLO on it then u-boot.bin Mar 01 04:13:35 formatted to ext3 Mar 01 04:14:29 use fat32 on the first partition Mar 01 04:14:48 cmd to do so? Mar 01 04:15:37 I usually use gparted Mar 01 04:16:30 but you can probably use mkfs or some variant Mar 01 04:16:46 ok using gparted Mar 01 04:17:01 make partition of fat32 at how much space? Mar 01 04:17:03 50mb? Mar 01 04:17:21 leave the partitions the way they are,if it booted it's good Mar 01 04:18:02 newer gparted won't let you place the partition up against the beginning of the drive like it needs to be Mar 01 04:20:11 ok MLO and u-boot.img copied to SD Mar 01 04:21:05 now untar the image that you got from narcissus directly onto the second partition Mar 01 04:22:45 question. how do i change so i can use hdmi at 720p? seems stand settings dont worjk and i have to force over s-video at NTSC :? Mar 01 04:23:42 prpplague, ya, the pins on the beacon are way too short Mar 01 04:23:47 1280x720over dvi?i Mar 01 04:23:55 yes Mar 01 04:25:15 and like a moron, I soldered the digikey part to my beagleboard without checking first Mar 01 04:25:32 make a file uEnv.txt onthe first partition and put this line in it: dvimode=1280x720MR-24@60 Mar 01 04:26:02 Russ: doh Mar 01 04:26:23 Russ: time for some desoldering braid Mar 01 04:26:48 any clue what part number I actually want? Mar 01 04:26:52 Russ: just desolder the header off the beacon Mar 01 04:27:06 Russ: based on the datasheet that was suppose to be compatible Mar 01 04:27:13 Russ: let me look again Mar 01 04:27:14 hehe Mar 01 04:27:36 I do like the lower clearance offered by the connecter that got used on the beacon Mar 01 04:28:02 but the pins are probably 0.100" Mar 01 04:30:43 Russ: hmm, looks like digikey changed there parts or something Mar 01 04:30:52 Russ: doesn't look like they have it Mar 01 04:32:04 suppose I'll just order the mate then Mar 01 04:32:26 Russ: i'll contact digikey about it Mar 01 04:32:28 now it says i dont have permission... Mar 01 04:32:55 then use sudo Mar 01 04:32:56 Russ: here is the datasheet for the correct part from major league - http://www.mlelectronic.com/pcb/pcb-request-samples/pcb-request-samples-frame.asp?name=LSWSS-1-D-02 Mar 01 04:35:01 Russ: i always hated those low profile connectors Mar 01 04:35:09 Russ: i tried to get TI to change them for the panda Mar 01 04:36:13 so then dd to sde2? Mar 01 04:36:22 whish is partition 2? Mar 01 04:36:32 bgecause partition 1 has the boot files Mar 01 04:36:54 what format did you download? Mar 01 04:37:06 the tar.gz would be the easiest to use Mar 01 04:37:34 the tar.gz and unziped em Mar 01 04:38:19 wrighting it now Mar 01 04:38:22 wish me luck! Mar 01 04:38:24 you just use: tar xvzf -C Mar 01 04:50:14 * Russ ♯¡/ßiñ/ś₫ Mar 01 06:00:57 Russ: er? Mar 01 06:05:14 just babbling Mar 01 06:05:53 I had to send my wife an 'ñ' on gchat because I don't know how to make one on windows Mar 01 06:06:17 :D Mar 01 06:07:15 every time i open a vendor makefile i want to kill myself Mar 01 06:08:28 hey, be glad, its not a shell script that builds everything Mar 01 06:12:37 * Russ looks into allchars Mar 01 06:12:51 or these gems in modern drivers "LINUX_VERSION_CODE < KERNEL_VERSION(2,5,0)" Mar 01 06:13:00 heh Mar 01 06:13:06 if are running 2.5> kill yourself :) Mar 01 06:13:26 I actually got so tired of supported multiple kernel version in drivers, I wrote a bunch of munging headers Mar 01 06:14:26 a -Iinclude/compat went into the build line before anything else, and then a 'linux/device.h'or whatever the head was would go there Mar 01 06:14:51 munge up structure names, function names, add wrappers, etc, and do an #include_next for the real header Mar 01 06:15:35 the compat headers were full of LINUX_VERSION_CODE, but at least all the drivers were written for whatever the latest kernel version was Mar 01 06:16:20 i guess i shouldn't bitch this time 2 months ago i was looking at php code (don't ask :)) Mar 01 06:17:38 written by a half dozen or so interns over the years :) Mar 01 06:22:19 just get used to reworking drivers on the fly Mar 01 06:29:11 how did this build? :) Mar 01 06:31:27 Russ: planning on going to the collab summit? Mar 01 06:31:43 when/where? Mar 01 06:35:19 I didn't request an invitation... Mar 01 06:37:18 Russ: all you have to do is ask for one Mar 01 06:40:10 where is that? Mar 01 06:42:17 sfo Mar 01 06:43:37 * mranostay forgets who is local here Mar 01 06:43:44 Russ: your in AZ right? Mar 01 06:43:54 phoenix Mar 01 06:44:36 blah SFO Mar 01 06:44:41 when is that? Mar 01 06:45:13 april 3rd Mar 01 06:45:23 hotel nikko Mar 01 06:46:14 that should be pretty pleasant weather in PHX at that time Mar 01 06:46:34 * mranostay needs to see the talk list to BS...i mean pitch this to his boss :) Mar 01 06:47:24 mranostay: trying to get days off already? Mar 01 06:48:49 er ok "| powerpc-poky-linux-gnuspe-ld: unrecognized option '-Wl,-O1'" Mar 01 06:54:07 -O1 for linkers?! wtf? Mar 01 07:19:42 so, it has come to this Mar 01 07:27:33 make uImage modules modules_installl Mar 01 07:27:38 uups Mar 01 07:32:35 aholler: make coffee Mar 01 07:32:48 yes Mar 01 07:42:48 make java Mar 01 07:56:53 gah panto is here Mar 01 07:57:05 hi mranostay Mar 01 07:57:26 isn't it too late to be up for a school-day? :) Mar 01 07:57:40 can't sleep Mar 01 08:00:07 mranostay, in that case... tell me about your childhood Mar 01 08:08:51 panto: i think it is all the same. too many computers, too few girls :) Mar 01 08:09:17 interesting... interesting... Mar 01 08:20:10 hmmm TV is out...must be raining heavily in the bay area Mar 01 08:22:02 ds2: now you have to drink yourself to sleep Mar 01 08:28:01 no problem. Got TRM handy from different SoC vendors Mar 01 08:30:00 your going to hit yourself over the head with 3k+ page print-outs until you fall asleep? Mar 01 08:34:38 some of them are unprintable Mar 01 08:38:39 dm8tbr: the sound the printer makes is enough to fall asleep with Mar 01 08:58:04 hi av500 Mar 01 08:58:39 i just tried the ubuntu 11.10 image on my beagle board c3 -- last time i tried it didn't work cause of faulty sd card Mar 01 08:58:45 working now Mar 01 08:59:29 good Mar 01 08:59:53 i'm getting a different internet provider in the next week or so Mar 01 08:59:58 switching to 3G Mar 01 09:02:53 i had to erase the environment to get it to boot though Mar 01 09:05:53 yes Mar 01 10:47:47 Quick question - from the command line, how do you set a proxy for internet access? Mar 01 10:48:03 depends on your proxy Mar 01 10:49:17 I tried export http_proxy="portal.zuehlke.com:8080" Mar 01 10:49:40 because that's the link to our company's proxy while I'm inside their firewall Mar 01 10:49:58 but I still can't ping linux.org Mar 01 10:50:48 spazvt: maybe these guys can help: http://www.zuehlke.com/de/software-product-engineering/kompetenzen/loesungen/embedded-systeme.html Mar 01 10:51:25 at the moment, I'm trying to do another Narcissus build with X11 GUI and Network Manager GUI to see if I can use a GUI to set it Mar 01 10:51:44 av500: true. Mar 01 10:53:37 i am running xchat-gnome on the beagleboard connected over vnc from my linux desktop.... :) Mar 01 11:28:47 http://code.google.com/p/opennect/ Mar 01 11:28:50 inb4 927 Mar 01 11:40:47 is it possible to run a vanilla linux 3.2 on the beaglebone? where could I get a valid defconfig? Mar 01 11:45:06 f11f12, it is possible depending of the state of the tree at that moment Mar 01 11:45:21 mainline's beaglebone config IIRC is omap2plus_defconfig Mar 01 11:45:44 ok, I'll try that Mar 01 11:45:46 thanks Mar 01 12:07:10 f11f12: It is not possible, due to missing baseport patches in mainline. I maintain another branch which tracks mainline + AM335x baseport patches...thats should boot on BeagleBone Mar 01 12:08:41 hvaibhav, where can I get it? Mar 01 12:18:52 https://github.com/hvaibhav/am335x-linux Mar 01 12:20:34 <_tasslehoff_> I need to find a way to figure out if uart, timer or pwron/gpio_keys woke my system from suspend. any clever suggestions? I was hoping /debug/wakeup_sources would change, but no. Mar 01 12:35:24 hi, is windowed GLES supported on xM board? Mar 01 12:36:03 it only works for me if I run in fullscreen, but it might be something with my code Mar 01 12:39:03 always assume its your code :) Mar 01 12:39:20 or possibly _you_ Mar 01 12:39:42 well i've been working on that for a while, and I haven't seen any videos or live demos doing GLES in windowed mode Mar 01 12:39:49 so I just want to be sure :) Mar 01 12:40:05 does it work on a pc? Mar 01 12:40:12 o.O Mar 01 12:40:22 whats gles in windowed mode? Mar 01 12:40:30 widowed Mar 01 12:40:39 like in chromium? Mar 01 12:40:56 yes, same code works on a pc in windowed Mar 01 12:40:59 * koen wonders what's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osrBbfaZN9w is then Mar 01 12:41:25 woglinde: I have no idea about anything gl(es), just throwing around random plausible-sounding suggestions Mar 01 12:41:53 damir there you have your answer Mar 01 12:42:00 ->< damir__> yes, same code works on a pc in windowed Mar 01 12:42:15 koen: its that a video from team_moonlanding? Mar 01 12:42:37 just less grainy Mar 01 12:42:46 koen: thanks. It still might be the driver tho. I'll try to run a demo from powerVR in windowed and see Mar 01 12:43:01 av500: but is the moon open/free? Mar 01 12:43:07 we demand OpenMOON now Mar 01 12:43:11 mru: and openly developed! Mar 01 12:43:27 mru: the moon is open, but monolithic! Mar 01 12:43:39 moonolithic? Mar 01 12:43:48 yes Mar 01 12:44:03 * LetoThe2nd gets reminded by 'moon' to watch Iron Skies ASAP Mar 01 12:44:15 leto *g* Mar 01 12:44:18 is there a torrent? Mar 01 12:44:25 megavideo Mar 01 12:44:26 haha Mar 01 12:44:46 kim.com: ^^^ ? Mar 01 12:49:50 updates to the ideas page welcome: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/Ideas Mar 01 12:49:58 application deadline is March 9. Mar 01 12:50:05 jkridner_: good morning! Mar 01 12:50:17 jkrider I fear it will be same as last ear Mar 01 12:50:19 year even Mar 01 12:50:34 jkridner: it says '2011' all over Mar 01 12:52:26 aaah Mar 01 12:52:29 the hurting Mar 01 12:52:35 * koen just edited a wiki Mar 01 13:30:25 koen, yeah, my upstream status editing just gets more painful by the day Mar 01 13:31:12 koen, I recall when we used twiki and basic tables to task out projects, the syntax on that wiki was way simpler than mediawiki Mar 01 13:31:17 mdp: you know there's an easy way out, you know Mar 01 13:31:30 don't make any progress Mar 01 13:31:32 ok, ok, suicide is not an option Mar 01 13:31:36 oh, that! :) Mar 01 13:31:57 just pretend you're doing upstream work Mar 01 13:32:13 * mdp waves at hvaibhav Mar 01 13:33:10 koen, it would be nice to do that and just work on my InternetOfThingsTotalDissolvedSolidsWaterQualityTester gadget Mar 01 13:33:24 *whew* Mar 01 13:33:35 that was a full day's dose of StudlyCaps Mar 01 13:35:11 hm Mar 01 13:37:12 koen, btw, have you considered just taking the short-term approach of dropping the deprecated boardfile + cmdline args cape support on top of hvaibhav's tree? Mar 01 13:37:30 I have Mar 01 13:37:35 it's in my RFC Mar 01 13:37:48 oh, hrm, I guess I skimmed too fast Mar 01 13:37:51 disregard! Mar 01 13:38:10 dammit, you've thought of everything! Mar 01 13:38:15 I sent it 5 seconds ago Mar 01 13:38:20 *g* Mar 01 13:38:27 you were copied on the drafts, though :) Mar 01 13:38:31 yeah, I know Mar 01 13:38:46 I, um, was distracted by other things yesterday Mar 01 13:38:54 cmdline is beagleboard one, bone only needs the boardfile stuff Mar 01 13:38:57 only* Mar 01 13:39:21 mdp: I'd like to avoid getting it to work with non-DT Mar 01 13:39:33 mdp: since that will mean noone will do the necessary uboot work Mar 01 13:40:16 well, it doesn't take much to sweet-talk Tartarus into doing the right thing... Mar 01 13:40:46 however, I know he's got a shit-storm of work just cleaning up a number of TI-related messes in u-boot.. Mar 01 13:41:09 still i2c? Mar 01 13:41:11 but maybe he'll want to help there.. Mar 01 13:41:36 there's just a lot of infrastructure cleanup issues on his plate..like the whole nand area Mar 01 13:41:37 I'd like someone to sweettalk chalmers into getting tartarus to do the work Mar 01 13:42:13 i've been away for a week now, so I probably missed 2 reorgs already Mar 01 13:42:17 when Tartarus is back from holiday I'll talk to him about what his plans are.. Mar 01 13:42:27 koen, more like 4-5 I think..hehe Mar 01 13:43:20 * koen hates FPCs Mar 01 13:43:44 here, have some solder terminals Mar 01 13:43:45 debugging backlight issues is hard when you broke the FPC to the lcd a day earlier Mar 01 13:44:10 and the other side of this is that…and no promises here..but we have 2 more people starting on the kernel side RSN..one next week to help mag and I…so expect some more attention on DT stuff in the near future Mar 01 13:45:03 koen, with just mag and I, we needed to focus on having our fscking booting in mainline…so I refuse to do other stuff until that's under control and patches queued Mar 01 13:45:05 I really want some TI people allocated to help out with bone/DT before I start looking into it Mar 01 13:45:40 and I don't want that to be hvaibhav, he has more important things to work on Mar 01 13:45:44 everybody wants that…don't worry, in my very limited sphere of influence, I get to make that happen really soon Mar 01 13:45:57 (although having hvaibhav help would be awesome, of course) Mar 01 13:46:19 right, that's the idea, our goal is to help him get 335x blockers out of the way, while we fix the old crap same time Mar 01 13:46:46 he already has helped as you know..he's the one that got the first basic DT support queued for am35x/37x/335x Mar 01 13:47:03 if the logs still work I've covered enough of my ass wrt DT work Mar 01 13:47:15 koen: aint you quit? Mar 01 13:47:28 av500: TI is one of my customers now Mar 01 13:47:41 we'll start adding to that soon since we can do dts/dtsi for those boards and test against the posted spi/mmc, etc. dt binding and driver conversion patches Mar 01 13:48:11 koen, it'll move faster monday when I start getting panto's time to help on this stuff too Mar 01 13:48:30 nice Mar 01 13:48:40 koen, then we have another well-known person not-to-be-named starting at a TBD date Mar 01 13:49:03 I think we're allowed to say 'voldemort' nowadays Mar 01 13:49:14 jehova Mar 01 13:49:17 so I think we have the problem of not having people assigned to do the right thing solved finally Mar 01 13:49:46 koen, but I keep having to remind people, "the hole we are in is deep folks!" Mar 01 13:50:02 rumours that I am going to TI are infounded Mar 01 13:50:14 people here seem to think in 2 week progress horizons Mar 01 13:50:27 dumbfounded? :) Mar 01 13:50:50 mdp: I need to find out which NDAs are still active Mar 01 13:50:58 so the bone will run from usb power? Mar 01 13:51:15 koen, anyway, enough talk..that's the plan…and at least we are already executing..so back to work for me :) Mar 01 13:51:17 Crofton|work: yes Mar 01 13:51:17 I want to get mine setup for travel Mar 01 13:51:29 Crofton|work: you attended my talk, no? Mar 01 13:51:33 does the card it came with hav eusb gadget support Mar 01 13:51:40 no Mar 01 13:51:46 Crofton|work: I've heard "some" problems with usb powering in some cases Mar 01 13:51:57 Crofton|work: try and find out :) Mar 01 13:52:03 yeah, but I just want to compile stuff on it from my laptop Mar 01 13:52:15 well, I am going to .de on Monday and time is tight Mar 01 13:52:25 first I need to nibble a hole in the case Mar 01 13:52:32 Crofton|work: get a raspberry pi - it can *be* your laptop Mar 01 13:52:36 and cure cancer Mar 01 13:52:39 Crofton|work: you mean gadget storage & such? Mar 01 13:52:46 well ethernet Mar 01 13:52:53 and serial Mar 01 13:53:00 and? Mar 01 13:53:02 ssh? Mar 01 13:53:19 well, that is a side effect of usbnet Mar 01 13:53:41 hvaibhav: btw, I poked mlocke about patches and it appears he was able to get some action on your submissions…hope that moves things. Mar 01 13:53:43 Crofton|work: should have, IIRC. storage, ethernetoverusb and serial are enabled by default on the cloud9 angstrom images AFAIK Mar 01 13:53:48 just solder a dipswitch and program it like a man! Mar 01 13:55:42 Crofton|work: I did most of my talk in the train to/from fosdem and the plane to ELC Mar 01 13:55:51 Crofton|work: natively on the bone over usb Mar 01 13:56:15 is there a recent image downloadable? Mar 01 13:56:29 arg too many windows active Mar 01 13:56:32 ADD hell Mar 01 13:56:35 more coffee Mar 01 13:56:39 Crofton|work: load up the website and see Mar 01 13:57:41 * koen wonders why jkridner isn't updating the mirrors Mar 01 13:58:15 that would be too easy Mar 01 13:58:16 he is busy updating G+ feeds Mar 01 13:58:26 filling coffee cup Mar 01 13:58:35 nah, jason is running around at EW Mar 01 13:58:42 * Crofton|work curses the single core vm doing an oe build Mar 01 13:58:45 LetoThe2nd: if you're there, kick him Mar 01 13:58:56 Crofton|work: hah, I have an atom doing OE builds Mar 01 13:59:05 crofton nueremberg? Mar 01 13:59:10 koen: was there yesterday. if you had told me, i'd have. Mar 01 13:59:13 hmm, you are geting on the native build bandwagon Mar 01 13:59:31 Crofton|work: javascript, technically no build needed :) Mar 01 13:59:43 write once, loose respect everywhere Mar 01 13:59:57 *g* Mar 01 14:00:04 koen: and why? because you deserve it ;) Mar 01 14:24:21 does anyone know of this guy Garagoth? Mar 01 14:32:06 bigger brother of gargamel? Mar 01 14:38:33 hmmm not sure Mar 01 14:38:58 of that was some kind of sarcasm I didnt get it Mar 01 14:39:44 everything here is sarcasm Mar 01 14:40:09 thats true aswell :/ Mar 01 14:40:18 you just have to pickout the good bits? Mar 01 14:40:36 sarcasm and truth are not mutually exclusive Mar 01 14:42:53 trucasm Mar 01 14:43:10 (tm) Mar 01 14:43:46 the only reason i was asking about him was he actually managed to do something with the Beagle and the Livi365 Mar 01 14:43:57 maybe could get a schematic diagram of some form Mar 01 14:44:13 * LetoThe2nd bets he used it to boil smurfs. Mar 01 14:48:06 * etheretic ducks an ide Mar 01 14:49:14 arcanescu: where do you see that he manged that? Mar 01 14:49:48 av500: irclogs Mar 01 14:50:01 people will say anything on irc Mar 01 14:50:03 url? Mar 01 14:50:05 av500: got an email of another guy who was asking the same questions Mar 01 14:50:24 let me show you what i received Mar 01 14:51:30 arcanescu: the only irc logs I find is garagoth asking the same questions as you Mar 01 14:51:36 and me answering them in the same way Mar 01 14:54:28 av500: http://i42.tinypic.com/245ehcy.jpg Mar 01 14:55:09 most impressive Mar 01 14:55:35 I got this in an email from someone who was talking to garagoth Mar 01 14:55:40 but he says Mar 01 14:55:55 "DISCLAIMER" : i dont know if this works or not Mar 01 14:56:52 and as far as i can recall having worked with dm365 ... there needs to be some kind of pinmux config in the source to make it work aswell... Mar 01 14:57:40 now, if that schematic had omap or TVP signal names, one could review it Mar 01 14:57:48 as it is, it's abstract art Mar 01 14:58:42 hmm yes I am a bit skeptical about it.... but well the least male is livi365 and the female is on beagle Mar 01 14:58:49 I can add that for you if it helps Mar 01 14:58:57 it would help you too Mar 01 14:59:17 make a simple list, OMAP on the left and TVP on the right Mar 01 14:59:31 email it to the list, discuss Mar 01 14:59:37 okay Mar 01 15:24:41 mdp: Sorry I was away from my desk. Thanks for the help. Mar 01 16:18:01 finally got my beaglebone home …. first project do a wireless meat termometer …. that i present on web and a ios app :) Mar 01 16:19:46 yes, putting dinner in The Cloud(tm) Mar 01 16:19:54 yea :) Mar 01 16:20:57 I eagerly await seeing your thermometer metrics in the google's search results Mar 01 16:21:06 :) Mar 01 16:21:10 just to get a feel for it after that i guess to keep the meat termometer i have to use my avr500 and a display or something .. or buy a cheap arduino .. Mar 01 16:21:41 thats the problem with projects like that is that when you start a new you either have to make it permanent or scrap it Mar 01 16:21:56 termometer= thermometer? Mar 01 16:22:02 yea sry :) Mar 01 16:22:09 oh okay Mar 01 16:22:09 mixing swedish and english here :) Mar 01 16:22:19 > swenglish? Mar 01 16:22:27 yepp :) Mar 01 16:22:58 Crofton|work: day #4 at a hardware company: customer can't build numpy in angstrom :) Mar 01 16:23:22 :) Mar 01 16:24:33 heh Mar 01 16:24:43 remover lapack/blas and friends from the build machine Mar 01 16:26:25 that's what I said as well Mar 01 16:53:14 interesting Mar 01 16:53:29 genext2fs + tune2fs + fsck -> u-boot can read uImage from /boot Mar 01 16:53:41 mkfs.ext4 -> u-boot cannot read uImage from /boot Mar 01 16:53:47 2!=4 Mar 01 16:54:04 it is with tune2fs Mar 01 16:54:22 tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index /dev/sdb1 Mar 01 17:04:21 lol didnt know that eagle worked for macos x :D Mar 01 17:05:20 no need for the vmware i just installed… Mar 01 17:05:26 :) Mar 01 17:05:33 it even worked in DOS :) Mar 01 17:05:40 haha .. thats not fair Mar 01 17:05:46 why didnt you tell me last night :D Mar 01 17:05:50 you smart ass :D Mar 01 17:07:13 definitely runs on ProDOS Mar 01 17:07:40 requires dual floppy on the ][e though Mar 01 17:09:15 nice to take up this hobby after 15 years of dormancy :) .. and see that i can use mac .. Mar 01 17:37:32 I miss the kernel in the manual setup instruction: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Method_3:_Manual_Install_.28no_automatic_scripts.29 Mar 01 17:38:25 is it in the ubuntu minimal package somewhere? Mar 01 17:40:47 lol, this gigE PCI card comes with linux 2.4.20 drivers.... Mar 01 17:46:19 * mranostay waves Mar 01 17:46:38 av500: did i wake up in 2003? :) Mar 01 17:48:15 f11f12, that assumes your bring a kernel from anywhere.. ;) it's fully manual.. so you need to build your own. ;) Mar 01 17:48:44 ew Mar 01 17:49:05 i dont' think i've built a kerenl for a desktop linux box in 5 years Mar 01 17:49:48 rcn-ee, ok but to get started: there is one in the tarball just not in uboot format :-) Mar 01 17:50:11 f11f12, yeah.. you can use that... just run "mkimage" on it. Mar 01 17:50:17 then it's a uImage.. Mar 01 17:51:29 did it. boots :-) Mar 01 17:58:44 anybody tried to integrate gyroscope to beagleboard ? Mar 01 17:58:54 working on it Mar 01 17:59:02 Actually beaglebone ? Mar 01 17:59:07 uh huh Mar 01 17:59:12 bone Mar 01 17:59:25 you did it through i2c ? Mar 01 17:59:29 spi Mar 01 17:59:51 which gyro device did you use ? Mar 01 18:00:02 something by ST Micro that has both gyro and accelerometer in one Mar 01 18:01:19 you bought it from digikey ? Mar 01 18:01:26 hm Mar 01 18:01:32 i don't think so Mar 01 18:01:35 hang on let me get you the p/n Mar 01 18:02:11 does Angstrom distribution for bone include java ? Mar 01 18:02:45 zhivko should be otherwise build it yourself Mar 01 18:02:50 zhivko: you can install openjdk and a few vms Mar 01 18:02:52 with meta-java Mar 01 18:03:10 hm I could update to 1.11.1 today Mar 01 18:03:23 meta java is like instant coffee? Mar 01 18:03:31 eew Mar 01 18:03:49 its just like deb http://foo ... Mar 01 18:03:53 http://www.st.com/internet/com/TECHNICAL_RESOURCES/TECHNICAL_LITERATURE/DATASHEET/DM00034579.pdf Mar 01 18:03:58 to tell you the truth I'm not sure where it came from Mar 01 18:05:31 OK, thanks for info, but you needed to made your own PCB for that chip ? Mar 01 18:05:42 yeah Mar 01 18:05:44 apt-get doesn't work in beaglebone ? Mar 01 18:06:24 if you install debian, it does Mar 01 18:07:09 zhivko try opkg ;) Mar 01 18:07:31 rcn-ee: could it be that the kernel ignores root=/dev/sda1 rw ext3 rootwait? I always end up with mmc as root Mar 01 18:07:53 pastebin full boot log Mar 01 18:08:55 f11f12, that usually works fine.... does /dev/sda1, show up with "sudo fdisk -l' ? did you also edit /etc/fstab ? it's /dev/mmcblk0p2 by default in that rootfs.. Mar 01 18:09:36 av500 … try www.junkedit.com instead … way better then pastebin Mar 01 18:10:31 Silikagel: I would probably need something like: http://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/CMR3000-D01%20PWB/551-1081-ND/2534001 Mar 01 18:10:52 koen thanks man! Mar 01 18:13:32 koen: Unknown package 'openjdk'. Mar 01 18:13:44 rcn-ee: it was fstab, thanks for the hint! Mar 01 18:13:57 no problem. ;) Mar 01 18:15:08 zhivko: opkg list | grep openjdk Mar 01 18:16:13 joppefan try gist it is pastebin with git Mar 01 18:16:16 but I don't see much bootlog, kernel is 3.2.3 console=ttyO2,115200,n8. But I do get a login on ttyO2 Mar 01 18:16:21 I have: Angstrom/3.2/beaglebone and opkg list | grep openjdk retrurns nothing Mar 01 18:16:34 zhivko opkg update Mar 01 18:16:49 zhivko you need of course interner access on the bone Mar 01 18:17:01 why is everything looking blurry Mar 01 18:17:06 did I take my blood pressure medicine this morning? Mar 01 18:17:09 I hope I'm not stroking out! Mar 01 18:17:19 whiskey ? Mar 01 18:18:27 fog? Mar 01 18:20:38 SilicaGel: ns exposure to the DeathRay(tm)? Mar 01 18:20:48 hm it's not even built yet Mar 01 18:21:08 I really can't proceed on that project without venture capital Mar 01 18:21:12 you'll never take over the world chatting with us…hop to it! Mar 01 18:21:22 the components of a death ray are, it turns out, very expensive. Mar 01 18:21:41 My original idea - use a microwave oven, but open the door, and jam a screwdriver into the slot so it turns on anyway - didn't work out very well Mar 01 18:25:28 i cannot ping google from beagle... I'm connected through usb... Mar 01 18:27:00 woglinde - does this means I need to connect lan cable to bone ? Mar 01 18:27:18 connect via usb how? Mar 01 18:27:20 serial? Mar 01 18:27:52 Classic connection as (following: http://beagleboard.org/static/beaglebone/latest/README.htm) Mar 01 18:27:58 zhivko you could hire me as your network admin Mar 01 18:28:04 than I would make it fly Mar 01 18:28:32 oh yea... you would surely leave some open ports :) Mar 01 18:28:45 * mdp builds a GoogleCape Mar 01 18:30:00 woglinde - should I connect it with LAN or it should talk through my host computer to inet ? Mar 01 18:30:46 think subnet is wrong Mar 01 18:31:20 Hmm, C64 userport cape... Mar 01 18:31:53 great! I can play Jumpman again! Mar 01 18:31:55 And Lode Runner! Mar 01 18:32:01 ? Mar 01 18:32:08 commodore 64 cape? Mar 01 18:32:14 zhivko pay may 1000$ than I will look into my crystall ball Mar 01 18:32:17 C64 userport Mar 01 18:32:35 you can plug your bone into your C64 expansion port Mar 01 18:32:42 hmm Mar 01 18:33:11 I'm going to need vic-20 expansion port support in the spec before I can support this project Mar 01 18:33:51 you can't just support the latest and greatest h/w only Mar 01 18:34:55 koen, xm seems to be in a world of hurt on 3.3-rc5 Mar 01 18:35:18 even with the uart pinmux fix Mar 01 18:37:31 so its building Mar 01 18:38:13 My BeagleBone came with an Angstrom kernel identified as "3.1.0+". Is there something more recent I can upgrade to? Mar 01 18:38:35 woglinde: building is good, yes Mar 01 18:42:05 http://davidszondy.com/future/tesla/teslaray.htm AH HAH! PLANS! Mar 01 18:47:54 you so made the DHS List(™) for that search string Mar 01 18:48:17 yeah Mar 01 18:48:23 think what it will do to my google history, too Mar 01 18:48:32 "Purchase books on Death Rays" Mar 01 18:49:21 holy crap Mar 01 18:49:23 there is a book Mar 01 18:49:46 "Were they attempting to clean the fact that a weapon first envisioned by legendary inventor Nikola tesla over 80 years ago was the real culprit that brought down the space shuttle and killed the seven astronauts?" Mar 01 18:50:15 it's a conspiracy Mar 01 18:50:22 it's probably advertised on prisonplanet.tv Mar 01 18:50:25 a constipacy Mar 01 18:52:05 has anybody succeded to ping google from beaglebone that is connected via usb to windows ? Mar 01 18:54:23 ah I found it... I think :) Mar 01 19:00:48 this is kind of painful to watch. Mar 01 19:06:53 SilicaGel the tesla weapon? Mar 01 19:07:24 I hope the have something more about it in assisin creed 3 Mar 01 19:07:34 no, haha :) never look into the business end of a death ray. Mar 01 19:22:06 is someone using beagleboard with device tree? Mar 01 19:32:57 thweber: less arch/arm/boot/dts/omap3-beagle.dts ;) Mar 01 19:38:55 aholler: what is the correct cpuid in u-boot for fdt? 452 for OMAP_GENERIC or the 1546 for beagle? Mar 01 19:43:45 I don't know, never tried. I'm waiting until it's more complete Mar 01 19:56:15 apparently, we are still in 2011 before November Mar 01 19:57:59 I only needed to connect LAN cable - thanks guys ;) Mar 01 20:19:10 I am trying vnc and I'm getting: " XOpenDisplay failed (:0)" on starting server on beagle Mar 01 20:20:06 I'm using out of the box image of angstrom distribution... Anybody knows what i'm doing wrong ? Mar 01 20:42:04 anybody know how to start XServer on beagle ? Mar 01 20:47:04 startx Mar 01 21:13:34 <_av500_> sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that Mar 01 21:47:58 /whois infernix Mar 01 21:48:02 fart Mar 01 21:48:10 oi Mar 01 21:49:34 thweber: machine id is unused in dt case Mar 01 21:49:48 *sigh* Mar 01 21:51:53 <_av500_> replaced by acpi_id? Mar 01 21:52:38 nope, machine id and board files are deprecated Mar 01 21:53:06 your compat property select a DT machine desc in board-generic.c and off you go Mar 01 21:53:25 hopefully you are satisfied with booting and just having a ramdisk and no peripherals Mar 01 21:53:29 <_av500_> so where will all the come in my board files go? Mar 01 21:53:35 <_av500_> all the code Mar 01 21:53:44 -> charity Mar 01 21:53:48 <_av500_> \o/ Mar 01 21:54:03 <_av500_> oxfam has a book shop and a clothes shop here Mar 01 21:54:12 <_av500_> next we will need a code shop Mar 01 21:54:24 in some people's theory, there's only data in board files..so it lands in the blob, of course Mar 01 21:54:30 then you have code to parse that out Mar 01 21:54:41 there will always be board specific logic, of course Mar 01 21:54:50 it is the future! Mar 01 21:54:50 <_av500_> and where does that go? Mar 01 21:55:21 <_av500_> like "frob that gugu for 100mqurks" Mar 01 21:55:56 <_av500_> hmm, how bout a new subfolder linux/misc Mar 01 21:56:08 <_av500_> or my favorite, linux/tmp2 Mar 01 21:56:19 * _av500_ has all his stuff in /tmp2 Mar 01 21:56:29 Goddammnit. That was my master password. Mar 01 21:56:55 * _av500_ stopped using /tmp coz all the stuff was erased on friday morning.... Mar 01 21:57:04 <_av500_> retyping it took too much time Mar 01 21:57:11 * ynezz has /_old and /_really_really_old Mar 01 21:57:23 * _av500_ has several levels of /stuff folders Mar 01 21:57:30 meta-stuff? Mar 01 21:57:37 * aholler has git Mar 01 21:57:37 <_av500_> real_stuff Mar 01 21:57:49 <_av500_> aholler is .... special Mar 01 21:57:55 german :D Mar 01 21:57:59 <_av500_> that too Mar 01 21:58:00 no punk allowed Mar 01 21:58:08 alles in ordung Mar 01 21:58:10 someone say my name? Mar 01 21:58:13 _av500_, the vision only goes so far :) Mar 01 21:58:15 or how it's written Mar 01 21:58:26 <_av500_> Ordnung Mar 01 21:58:42 _av500_, I already know how this turns out from ppc-land Mar 01 21:58:47 whatever, just pay that .gr bills :) Mar 01 21:59:06 <_av500_> I do Mar 01 21:59:10 <_av500_> with pride Mar 01 21:59:15 aholler: sorry, couldn't help myself :) Mar 01 21:59:20 <_av500_> since it help .gr buy german submarines Mar 01 21:59:29 <_av500_> which makes .tr order even more submarines Mar 01 21:59:41 seems profitable Mar 01 21:59:46 <_av500_> o'course Mar 01 21:59:55 <_av500_> too god to be trEU Mar 01 22:00:22 <_av500_> +o Mar 01 22:02:32 ynezz: np, there more people which can't help themself Mar 01 22:03:06 don't care, we pay for them all Mar 01 22:03:38 <_av500_> submarines for everybody \o/ Mar 01 22:03:50 / Mar 01 22:05:32 _av500_: and don't forget the tanks Mar 01 22:05:39 <_av500_> yes Mar 01 22:05:43 <_av500_> how could I Mar 01 22:10:14 <_av500_> hehe, somebody used softfb sgx libs with his hardfp setup Mar 01 22:10:19 <_av500_> softfp Mar 01 22:10:26 told you it was possible Mar 01 22:11:38 <_av500_> I never denied it Mar 01 22:13:16 <_av500_> I'm a big fan of hacking ELF files myself Mar 01 22:13:23 wow, they made a movie about my favorite password ... THE HUNTER 2 Mar 01 22:13:50 <_av500_> they made one about mine too "swordfish" Mar 01 22:14:19 * mranostay logs into SilicaGel's and _av500_'s accounts Mar 01 22:14:27 you can't Mar 01 22:14:31 it will show up as ******* Mar 01 22:15:23 <_av500_> omg, it is full of stars Mar 01 22:35:41 koen, what bone image do you use for demos conneted via usb? Mar 01 22:36:33 Clou9? Mar 01 22:46:09 koen, update the readme to reflect the .xz in the img file ... Mar 01 22:48:18 what would be a good insulator to use under the bione in the tin? Mar 01 22:48:37 <_av500_> Crofton|work: monologue night? Mar 01 22:48:44 yeah Mar 01 22:48:50 <_av500_> go on Mar 01 22:48:55 heh Mar 01 22:49:07 been skiing or boarding yet? Mar 01 22:49:14 <_av500_> not this year it seems :( Mar 01 22:49:25 we only went once Mar 01 22:49:43 <_av500_> he, this is turning into dialogue! Mar 01 22:49:46 and Sandy says she is too busy to come to .eu and go this year Mar 01 22:49:53 btw, I will be in Karlsruhe next week Mar 01 22:49:58 <_av500_> oh Mar 01 22:50:01 <_av500_> come by Mar 01 22:50:11 <_av500_> what's in KA? Mar 01 22:50:16 WSR12 Mar 01 22:50:31 <_av500_> free food? Mar 01 22:50:51 http://www-int.etec.uni-karlsruhe.de/seiten/conferences/wsr12/ Mar 01 22:50:55 not really Mar 01 22:50:59 I have to do a wire transfer Mar 01 22:51:16 <_av500_> heh, KITT Mar 01 22:51:43 <_av500_> ah, Jondral Mar 01 22:51:53 yeah Mar 01 22:51:58 is he famous? Mar 01 22:52:09 <_av500_> a bit Mar 01 22:52:14 <_av500_> at least well known Mar 01 22:53:32 heh Mar 01 22:54:51 <_av500_> Crofton|work: well, I am on the way between FRA and WSR... Mar 01 22:55:01 <_av500_> I can always stage an ambush Mar 01 22:55:14 I need to see how we are getting around Mar 01 22:55:22 I would take the train personally Mar 01 22:56:35 <_av500_> train should be fine Mar 01 22:58:53 yeah, last time I was there we did that Mar 01 23:01:06 ah nice I fixed paralle_make macro Mar 01 23:01:14 now openjdk builds a lot faster Mar 01 23:01:26 <_av500_> yeah, lets start the day with java Mar 01 23:01:35 as you wish Mar 01 23:01:50 <_av500_> DonDiego: ...script Mar 01 23:01:54 <_av500_> oops :) Mar 01 23:09:41 hm maybee tomorrow I will start the openjdk7 recipe Mar 01 23:14:06 bone boots, but I can't seem to get serial port Mar 01 23:15:27 is 'bone boots' a new interjection phase? :D Mar 01 23:35:10 nitw Mar 02 01:00:53 * ds2 sounds an airhorn Mar 02 01:10:24 * emeb covers ears Mar 02 01:10:33 (long echo) Mar 02 01:22:29 * mranostay calls police on ds2 Mar 02 01:37:11 bonjour friends, any here looking to answer a beagleboard question Mar 02 01:50:36 does anyone communiat on here Mar 02 01:59:01 http://www.autofrog.com/~chrisp/Projects/Electronics/ZBPowerMon.png Mar 02 01:59:07 zigbee power monitoring node (for AC) Mar 02 01:59:09 not yet finished **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Mar 02 02:59:58 2012