**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 15 02:59:58 2012 Mar 15 03:35:34 * Russ presents https://github.com/russdill/ttypersist Mar 15 03:53:01 hmmm Mar 15 03:57:14 Russ: why not use a console multiplexer? Mar 15 03:58:07 * Russ looks at conmux Mar 15 03:59:07 Hmmmm Mar 15 03:59:32 that is what i use. Mar 15 03:59:55 i love being able to reset my board within one console interface Mar 15 04:01:41 mranostay: reset? Mar 15 04:02:22 mranostay, you could do the same reset thing with screen via a key binding Mar 15 04:02:44 mranostay: you have a switch soldered in parallel with the reset button? Mar 15 04:04:02 mranostay, if its a system that provides its own usb/serial interface, does conmux handle that during a power cycle? Mar 15 04:04:13 (eg, /dev/ttyUSB0 goes away, then comes back) Mar 15 04:05:35 ds2: i used too until openocd got fixed Mar 15 04:06:21 Russ: i bind to the /dev/serial/by-*/blah usually Mar 15 04:06:44 right, but during a reboot, when that dev node goes away and then comes back... Mar 15 04:07:27 mranostay: openocd works well enough to reset the am33x now? Mar 15 04:07:32 yep Mar 15 04:07:41 special branch or the main tree? Mar 15 04:07:53 i'm running the main tree Mar 15 04:08:08 it happened recently like two weeks ago Mar 15 04:08:13 ah okay Mar 15 04:08:21 I just drop them on a power cycler Mar 15 04:08:29 but I like open ocd better Mar 15 04:09:01 i have a reset command that does "echo reset | nc localhost 4444" Mar 15 04:09:15 in conmux Mar 15 04:10:16 wonder if openocd works well with other sitara chips Mar 15 04:12:57 heh, minicom's serial port name is limited to 62 characters Mar 15 04:13:16 use kermit Mar 15 04:13:24 forget minicom, it is more hassle then it is worth Mar 15 04:14:08 c- or g-? Mar 15 04:14:35 c-kermit Mar 15 04:14:49 minicom likes to emulate vt100 by itself... xterm does a better job Mar 15 04:15:36 besides, minicom wants ctrl-a's... screen uses ctrl-a Mar 15 04:16:07 what does ckermit give you over screen? Mar 15 04:16:35 c-kermit can upload directly to u-boot? :D Mar 15 04:16:38 or x-loader Mar 15 04:18:00 technically you can use lrzsz with screen Mar 15 04:18:14 u-boot implements zmodem thesedays? Mar 15 04:18:39 ymodem Mar 15 04:18:43 lrzsz implements more than just zmodem these days Mar 15 04:18:50 oh Mar 15 04:20:07 x, y, and z Mar 15 04:23:48 but that won't help x-load Mar 15 04:29:34 mranostay, do you use cu with conmux? Mar 15 04:43:37 Russ: yes Mar 15 04:44:23 `~$' seems like an odd choice for an escape sequence Mar 15 04:44:58 prehaps Mar 15 04:45:02 *perhaps Mar 15 04:59:05 how is ~$ odd? Mar 15 05:00:07 seems perfectly consistant in the unix world Mar 15 05:00:15 albert a bit annoying Mar 15 05:24:31 * mranostay thinks he needs to retire the old macbook... Mar 15 05:24:48 USB controller is acting odd Mar 15 05:24:58 or i'm hanging too many devices off of it Mar 15 05:34:44 Russ: how likely are you going to type ~$ though for some thing else? :) Mar 15 05:53:21 other programs use ~sequences Mar 15 05:54:41 of course i use minicom and screen within screen... Mar 15 05:54:55 too lazy to remap commands Mar 15 05:55:37 for your next trick...use screen with in screen with in screen Mar 15 05:56:03 inception? Mar 15 05:56:36 still need to watch that movie drunk. can't make less sense :) Mar 15 05:57:50 ds2: wait does ssh use a ~ sequence? Mar 15 05:58:01 *doesn't Mar 15 05:58:38 yep! Mar 15 05:58:41 so does rlogin Mar 15 05:58:50 it is almost a defacto thing for *nix Mar 15 06:10:04 Dammit Mar 15 06:10:58 If I, say, accidentally crossed the 5V and 1.8V supplies on my BB xM, and my board won't boot any more, is there any remedy other than RMAing it? Mar 15 06:20:23 is there some kind of trick to making a bootable disk? Mar 15 06:20:42 mark it as such Mar 15 06:21:04 ds2 it was marked Mar 15 06:21:19 geometry good? Mar 15 06:21:35 alledgedly Mar 15 06:21:45 how do i make sure? Mar 15 06:22:56 print it? :D Mar 15 06:23:09 what would i be looking for? Mar 15 06:40:39 newbe here any help? Mar 15 06:41:55 anyone there? Mar 15 06:42:23 mranostay, if I'm writing a readme. foo@machine:~$ ... Mar 15 06:43:59 Russ: that should not make it go off Mar 15 06:45:34 ds2, then I'm misunderstanding Mar 15 06:46:21 Russ: if it is done the traditional way, the full sequence is ~$ Mar 15 06:46:30 i.e. you have to have had enter first Mar 15 06:46:40 and what if you don't want to send to the host? Mar 15 06:47:02 also, this page seems to contradict that in the example Mar 15 06:47:03 https://github.com/autotest/autotest/wiki/Conmux-OriginalDocumentation Mar 15 06:47:13 okay, then it is different Mar 15 06:47:21 slogin/rlogin/etc uses the ~ sequence Mar 15 06:53:34 hmm...3am..doubt SilicaGel is awake Mar 15 06:56:22 hmmm Mar 15 07:20:39 So my BB xM has the D5 and D14 LEDs (Power indicator and USB Power) are solid green, D13 (overvoltage) blinks when I plug it in. Other than that, nothing happens. Is my board dead? Is there anything I can do other than RMA it? Mar 15 07:20:53 I think I shorted the 1.8v and 5v lines on the expansion header :/ Mar 15 07:22:26 i expect that would damage multiple components, if the OMAP chip has been damaged (likely) then i guess you need a new board Mar 15 07:22:40 Yeah, that's what I was afraid of Mar 15 07:33:36 weird, if you run screen, it demands that `Directory '/var/run/screen' must have mode 777.' Mar 15 07:33:59 if you strace it, it insists that `Directory '/var/run/screen' must have mode 775.' Mar 15 07:34:03 er, switch those two Mar 15 08:05:42 Good Morning Mar 15 08:06:17 I have a litte issue on my beaglebone Mar 15 08:07:13 when my bone starts the kernel, the 3v3 pin gives 5v instead of 3v3 Mar 15 08:07:23 has anyone experienced this ? Mar 15 08:25:33 hmm. so I'm trying to get my toy OS to boot straight via JTAG, because u-boot's doing weird stuff and I don't feel like wading through uboot docs on top of the AM335x TRM, Cortex A-8 TRM, and ARMv7A ARM Mar 15 08:26:40 looks like the easiest way to do it is to load into the 0x40000000 address space and the 0x80000000 space Mar 15 08:26:55 the sdram you need to setup 1st Mar 15 08:27:19 but why not use serial boot or usb? Mar 15 08:27:41 leave a little loader sw running on your pc and hit reset on the board Mar 15 08:27:50 loader kicks in and sends the sw Mar 15 08:27:57 not sure where the xmodem loader in boot rom goes Mar 15 08:28:11 where? Mar 15 08:28:19 in address space Mar 15 08:28:30 where you tell I I think Mar 15 08:28:49 internal ram most likely since you need to set up sdram first Mar 15 08:29:39 yeah Mar 15 08:29:46 looks like 0x40000000 Mar 15 08:31:05 hmm, okay then Mar 15 08:32:42 ooh, just found amd starterware Mar 15 08:32:45 this looks promising Mar 15 08:38:57 alright, so my plan is: write a bootloader that sets up SDRAM and the MMU, in order to map all SDRAM to 0xC0000000, then loads the actual kernel into 0xC0000000, then branches to the kernel Mar 15 08:39:20 ok Mar 15 08:39:25 make it so Mar 15 08:40:41 kernel then maps memory-mapped devices into the higher half too, maps the lower half to the current process's section of kernel heap, enters user mode, branch to process, then does other kernelly stuff Mar 15 08:41:03 great Mar 15 08:42:21 * XMPPwocky will probably, at least at first, do the actual kernel loading via JTAG Mar 15 08:42:33 when can it read email? Mar 15 08:43:10 :P Mar 15 08:44:46 I give it 3 months, tops, until it can read RSS feeds Mar 15 08:45:03 2013 IS THE YEAR OF WockyOS ON THE DESKTOP Mar 15 08:45:28 literally Mar 15 08:45:31 it's on my desktop Mar 15 08:45:39 next to some pens and an Arduino Mar 15 08:49:27 oh, anyone happen to know the speed of the UART base clock on the bone? Mar 15 08:50:34 the TRM knows Mar 15 08:51:53 nope, it doesn't Mar 15 08:51:56 54? Mar 15 08:52:03 just says see documentation for the board Mar 15 08:52:09 and I can't find it in the SRM Mar 15 08:52:44 oh, I can pull it from u-boot with openocd Mar 15 08:52:59 or at least calculate it Mar 15 08:53:20 or read the uboot source Mar 15 08:53:27 or the linux source where it sets baudrate Mar 15 08:53:48 well Mar 15 08:55:51 eh, I'll do it later Mar 15 08:56:05 sure Mar 15 08:56:31 yay, JTAG! Mar 15 08:57:25 ._. note to self- when board won't power on, ensure that it's plugged in. Mar 15 09:00:57 it's the EMIF I need to initialize to get the delicious 256MB, right? Mar 15 09:04:52 yes Mar 15 09:07:26 hoora Mar 15 09:58:57 my beaglebone has just received:) if someone inside EU is planning to order it from digikey.com, be aware that you need to pay 30% additional tax Mar 15 09:59:08 digikey pissed me off Mar 15 09:59:26 not digikeys fault Mar 15 09:59:37 and I order from digikey.de Mar 15 09:59:39 no tax Mar 15 09:59:46 I ordered from digikey.se Mar 15 10:00:04 they said that they have only one warehouse which is located in the USA Mar 15 10:00:11 yes Mar 15 10:00:18 all components shipped from the USA Mar 15 10:00:26 how come you did not pay for the VAT? Mar 15 10:00:31 ah yes, maybe I paid tax as well Mar 15 10:00:36 but they tell you thatz Mar 15 10:00:56 if they had a warehouse inside EU, we would not need to pay tax Mar 15 10:01:05 haha Mar 15 10:01:16 if they had a warehouse in eu, you would pay VAT Mar 15 10:01:17 they are the 4rd largest supplier, and they have no warehouse inside EU Mar 15 10:01:28 which at least here is the *Same* as the tax Mar 15 10:01:41 or they would mimize their profit Mar 15 10:01:44 in fact, I dont pay tax, I pay VAT on imported goods Mar 15 10:01:44 minimize Mar 15 10:02:00 so, its irrelevant where the warehouse is Mar 15 10:02:22 do you know if farnell ship components from the USA or inside EU? Mar 15 10:02:27 in one case you "import" it, in the other case "they" importit Mar 15 10:02:36 the end price is the same more or less Mar 15 10:02:43 UPS guy told me that I need to pay VAT if I order something from outside of the EU Mar 15 10:02:51 yes Mar 15 10:03:02 in the farnell, the price is a little bit higher Mar 15 10:03:02 its called "import VAT" here Mar 15 10:09:19 it's actually two taxes here, customs import + VAT Mar 15 10:09:51 yes sometimes Mar 15 10:10:02 but for stuff like beagle, the actual tax is 0 Mar 15 10:10:12 you just pay the VAT Mar 15 10:10:29 which is conveniently calculated inlcuding shipping cost :) Mar 15 10:10:35 yep, bastards Mar 15 10:14:52 on the plastic bag of beaglebone, there are warnings like static sensitive etc. Do I need to ground myself:) before I touch beaglebone Mar 15 10:15:13 yes Mar 15 10:15:23 always cover yourself in sheet metal Mar 15 10:17:27 *grounded* sheet metal ! Mar 15 10:17:53 and get rid of that polyester underwear Mar 15 10:21:55 On which partition android BCB lies? Mar 15 10:23:27 BCB? Mar 15 10:23:38 boot control block Mar 15 10:24:25 what is that? Mar 15 10:24:48 recovery related structure Mar 15 11:14:52 hey I'm playing with my fresh beaglebone (A4). However, I can't seem to get the Bonjour service to work. I tried both the angstrom distribution (the recent 2012 image), and ArchLinux. It does seem to work locally (avahi-browse -a shows the BBs services), but other bonjour clients in my network can't discover it. The same version (with the same configuration) of avahi-daemon runs on my ubuntu box, which is working fine... Mar 15 11:17:38 (Note that I plan to use Bonjour for my project, and not just for the .local domain name, so it's important to me that it works) Mar 15 12:07:40 hi all, how to decrease the bootdelay variable from uEnv,txt Mar 15 12:10:23 you can't Mar 15 12:10:47 y is it so with bootdelay only?? Mar 15 12:11:17 uenv.txt is read after the delay Mar 15 12:12:05 ya tht i saw, anyother way on beagle-xM i can set the bootdelay Mar 15 12:12:24 rebuild u-boot with whatever value you want Mar 15 12:13:39 mru, ok thnks Mar 15 12:32:02 can anybody help me with Bonjour/Avahi troubles? I need it for my project, but the beaglebone simply isn't showing up in any discovery software I use Mar 15 12:36:36 another question: what is the proper way to make a backup of my current sd-card? (i.e. create an image similar to the .img.xz files) Mar 15 12:36:48 jouz: use dd Mar 15 12:40:44 LetoThe2nd: all partitions/etc. will be stored with it, then? Mar 15 12:41:44 jouz: if you run it on the whole block device, yes. Mar 15 12:42:00 LetoThe2nd: thanks! Mar 15 12:52:07 hi Mar 15 12:53:13 i need a voltage translator compatible with beagleboard-xM Mar 15 13:20:41 starter: I might clarify the VAT issue a bit. Are you inside or outside eu? Mar 15 13:22:50 SilicaGel: from what you said, the pruss instruction memory is accessible from the host right? and I can halt the pruss too, right? can I also alter the program counter? O:) Mar 15 13:34:16 hey Mar 15 13:46:34 dwery: I am inside EU, Sweden Mar 15 13:46:44 I am in EU Mar 15 13:49:34 What is the use of SD card that comes with beaglebone. I plugged it on my laptop, however the laptop can not see it. Have you experienced the same problem before? Mar 15 13:55:40 starter: then, if you buy within EU, you pay the VAT tax directly with the goods (with the rate of the selling country). If you order outside of the EU, you pay your local VAT when importing. Mar 15 13:56:03 so you always pay a VAT, no matter where you order ;) Mar 15 14:03:34 starter: laptop running a sane system, e.g. one that understands ext filesystems? Mar 15 14:04:15 yeah sure we all pay VAT even when we shop from a market, but shelf prices includes VAT. It just pissed me off when UPS asked me 30% VAT and I thought the VAT is included to the price that I paid Digikey. I am upset about it Mar 15 14:04:45 online sellers are usually biased toward corporate customers and the do not display the vat Mar 15 14:05:00 also because they would display the wrong one, unless you tell them where you live Mar 15 14:05:22 30% vat? Mar 15 14:05:27 what hell-hole do you live in? Mar 15 14:05:38 LetoThe2nd: I have a windows on my laptop, NTFS file system on it Mar 15 14:05:58 do I need to have a linux for this SD card? Mar 15 14:06:04 starter: then of course it will not be able to mount a extX formatted sd card. Mar 15 14:06:27 taxes in sweden is hell high Mar 15 14:06:27 you should see the boot partition probably, but thats all. Mar 15 14:06:57 is it ok if I install a linux OS to the VMware? Mar 15 14:07:00 starter: I've got a job offer from .se.. and it was very nice ;) Mar 15 14:07:15 Stockholm? Mar 15 14:07:15 high tax rates but also high salary Mar 15 14:07:27 yeah the swedish system is quite good Mar 15 14:07:34 starter: no, can't remeber the city but was a smaller one Mar 15 14:07:55 if it is sony or st ericsson then it should be Lund Mar 15 14:08:02 probably Mar 15 14:08:12 it is a quite nice city Mar 15 14:08:49 what is the use of SD card? Mar 15 14:09:09 since when does sweden have 30% vat? Mar 15 14:09:30 starter: what are you talking about anyway? the microsd card adapter? the microsd card thats comes with it? please be precise. Mar 15 14:10:36 the cost of my order was 677 and UPS guy asked me 220 SEK additional for VAT, 220 is approximately 30% of 677 Mar 15 14:11:17 LetoThe2nd: the SD card that comes with beagle bone, I wonder what is the use of it? Mar 15 14:11:23 oh, that probably included their insane customs processing fee too Mar 15 14:11:36 starter: the bone does not come with a sd card. Mar 15 14:12:03 it does come with a microsd Mar 15 14:12:05 in my package there is kingston micro SD card Mar 15 14:12:23 starter: depending on the revison/order date, it comes with one or two micro sd card incl. adapters. Mar 15 14:12:30 *facepalm* Mar 15 14:12:47 lol yeah it is my fault, it is adapter :) Mar 15 14:13:26 sorry Mar 15 14:13:27 so i repeat. what are we talking about? that you have inserted an empty adapter and wondered why you see no data? Mar 15 14:13:45 mount it as /dev/null Mar 15 14:14:07 I thought it is a SD card, my fault sorry Mar 15 14:14:24 so it's possible to not pay customs taxes to ups/fedex/you name it trolls? Mar 15 14:14:27 * LetoThe2nd would in that case suggest to donate the board to the next lug or school for better, more competent use ;) Mar 15 14:14:41 I mean for development boards/spare parts it makes no sense Mar 15 14:15:09 have it delivered to someone in the US who can then mail it to you Mar 15 14:15:11 there's probably some tax exception for such things Mar 15 14:15:18 ynezz: no, it isn;t Mar 15 14:15:32 we've it here in .cz Mar 15 14:15:48 I've avoided taxes on stuff labeled 'gift' or 'commercial sample' Mar 15 14:15:58 the only exception is that if your package comes with regular mail it's not usually inspected Mar 15 14:16:08 that's not true Mar 15 14:16:24 they've opened the "gifts" from seeedstudio :) Mar 15 14:16:34 then you're lucky ;) Mar 15 14:16:35 and this is normal post Mar 15 14:16:51 they usually declare a fake price Mar 15 14:16:58 so it falls under a certain amount Mar 15 14:17:00 yep Mar 15 14:17:06 but it's not a correct practice Mar 15 14:17:34 if you buy a gadget, you have to pay tax. that's the law Mar 15 14:17:47 if you lie about the purpose, you can avoid taxes Mar 15 14:17:57 VAT is fine, duty tax is not Mar 15 14:18:05 well, not fine, but acceptable Mar 15 14:18:22 both are the law, like it or not Mar 15 14:19:11 customs duty are there to pay for both the processing work and adapt the marketing conditions Mar 15 14:19:24 imho if you import from china, the duties should be much higher Mar 15 14:19:38 I'm not selling anything, so what market? Mar 15 14:19:38 because thy labor conditions are much different Mar 15 14:19:50 we're talking here about 1pc quantity, aren't we? Mar 15 14:19:51 ynezz: you're buying, it's the same :D Mar 15 14:20:13 1 or 100K doesn't make any differenct, it's all in % Mar 15 14:21:54 http://fpaste.org/4UZy Mar 15 14:21:59 I'm talking about this Mar 15 14:22:50 yes, and beagleboards don't qualify Mar 15 14:22:59 it sucks, but it's the way things are Mar 15 14:23:31 but hey, I'm fucking 32-bit scientist! Mar 15 14:24:34 :D Mar 15 14:25:01 write your MP and ask him to change the law for you Mar 15 14:25:05 but don't hold your breath Mar 15 14:29:00 and those tax excemptions are same within EU? Mar 15 14:29:50 here we've $25 USD limit for tax/duty free stuff, for example in Poland it's around $120(or little bit more) I think Mar 15 14:29:56 Hi, I got a beagleboard C4 and I am Unable to Enable the USB port Mar 15 14:30:16 can somebody help ? Mar 15 14:31:38 ynezz: probably not Mar 15 14:32:05 ynezz: each country has its own vat rates, duty rations and exemptions Mar 15 14:32:40 well, so let's find some top notch one and rent a P.O.Box forwarding service there :) Mar 15 14:33:12 similar service exists in the US already, but they're well known to the customs already too... Mar 15 14:34:53 mru: cisco bought your ex Mar 15 14:35:11 av500: ? Mar 15 14:35:42 oh Mar 15 14:35:55 yep Mar 15 14:36:11 where's is ex wife working? Mar 15 14:36:20 s/is/his/ Mar 15 14:36:29 lol Mar 15 14:36:39 she was on sale ? Mar 15 14:36:46 ogra_: sold for 5 Mar 15 14:36:51 camels ? Mar 15 14:36:57 billions Mar 15 14:37:04 5 billion camels? Mar 15 14:37:25 geez, that needs a big staple Mar 15 14:40:31 ynezz: cisco buys NDS Mar 15 15:02:35 more stuff from Boris i see Mar 15 15:07:43 * mranostay hides from Tartarus Mar 15 15:07:53 :P Mar 15 15:10:11 yes, boris is out of control today Mar 15 15:20:33 * mdp notes that we can get more beaglebone tutorials by donating $$$ Mar 15 15:23:05 mdp: is the AIN on a bone 1.8v? Mar 15 15:23:39 VDD_AIN is 1.8v Mar 15 15:24:40 does 1.801V set the carry flag? Mar 15 15:27:49 can't tell if av500 is trolling or being serious Mar 15 15:42:00 mranostay: if in doubt, assume he's trolling Mar 15 15:42:44 how mean Mar 15 15:42:57 see, that's what I mean Mar 15 15:43:18 how mean to even doubt it Mar 15 15:43:51 special discount today - order two or more professional trolls and get one free. Mar 15 15:44:11 LetoThe2nd: are you the "free" one? Mar 15 15:44:19 where's koen? Mar 15 15:44:28 nah, i'm still amateur troll level. Mar 15 15:44:40 mru: barcelona Mar 15 15:44:57 the YL needs new shoes it seems Mar 15 15:47:48 oO( ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the plague ) Mar 15 15:49:08 * prpplague takes a bow Mar 15 15:49:43 * prpplague grumbles at all the bits and pieces still left to do before official release of the animal-lvds-mini board Mar 15 15:49:47 mranostay, sorry, that's s/VDD_AIN/VDD_ADC/. but for future reference it's covered in Table 2 of the SRM Mar 15 15:52:54 mranostay, you can see the "why" if you look at the maximums on the datasheet, of course Mar 15 15:53:35 mdp: just thinking of the best way to interface a geiger counter Mar 15 15:54:05 purchase usb one from amazon…plug Mar 15 15:54:26 it is only a series of square waves. so pretty much anything will work including a free GPIO Mar 15 15:54:36 mdp: that is uber cheating :) Mar 15 15:54:54 and it invites disaster since it involves usb Mar 15 15:55:34 ecap? Mar 15 15:56:04 prpplague: meanwhile you could feed us with schematics :) Mar 15 15:57:00 ynezz: hehe not till the release Mar 15 15:57:30 hm, what IC would you guys recommend for LCD backlight which does have 3 strings of 8 leds in series, fw current for each led is rated at 30mA max Mar 15 15:57:56 mranostay, can you better describe the output? is it period/duty encoded with fixed amplitude that ecap can handle? Mar 15 15:57:57 ynezz: http://elinux.org/Animal_LVDS_Board#Design Mar 15 15:58:09 ynezz: the full size lvds board schematic is available Mar 15 15:58:31 mranostay, with the right level shifting from whatever that thing runs at you could capture that way Mar 15 15:59:12 ynezz: TPS61181A Mar 15 15:59:38 thanks! Mar 15 16:17:17 hello! may i ask a question here? Mar 15 16:17:25 only a good one Mar 15 16:17:41 okay i will try. Mar 15 16:17:41 MattRichardson: Thanks for such a great Getting Started video! Mar 15 16:18:17 jkridner__: now you make one about "asking questions on IRC" Mar 15 16:18:36 jkridner__: Sure thing! Mar 15 16:19:37 av500: :-) if you write the script, I'll make the video! Mar 15 16:20:07 MattRichardson: Do you mind if I put this video on the http://beagleboard.org/bone page? Mar 15 16:20:08 i want to use s-video instead of dvi monitor. now i can succesfully see color codes from my tv. after i setup amstrong, can i use this as a main screen instead of dvi-d? Mar 15 16:20:42 yes Mar 15 16:20:49 jkridner__: Of course I wouldn't mind. That would be great! Mar 15 16:20:50 i mean, until that still i could not see anything so this should be automatic.. Mar 15 16:21:02 yes? Mar 15 16:21:05 its not automatic Mar 15 16:21:14 you have to tell the kernel to use s-video out Mar 15 16:21:32 um.. okay.. Mar 15 16:21:41 jkridner__, is there any errata for the PRUSS documentation in the TRM? Mar 15 16:21:59 so i need to make changes on the runscript? Mar 15 16:22:20 no, the PRUSS documentation is being removed from the TRM and being added to a separate addendum. Mar 15 16:22:24 you need to change the kernel command line Mar 15 16:22:24 but that can be done offline isn't it? Mar 15 16:22:39 jkridner__: how much time between the two? Mar 15 16:22:59 pilote: you can edit uEnv.txt to have that effect Mar 15 16:23:08 or boot.scr if you are still using that Mar 15 16:23:09 jkridner__, just picked up and moved or modified? Mar 15 16:23:27 okay. thanks a lot! wow that is great info. thanks a lot! Mar 15 16:23:32 have a nice day! Mar 15 16:24:33 it will be moved and modified. the new docs should come with the assembler and examples later this month. Mar 15 16:24:47 okay. Mar 15 16:26:12 looks like I should wait then Mar 15 16:33:01 ka6sox: I also eagerly await it :) Mar 15 17:11:17 prpplague, Is the zippy2 still in production? Mar 15 17:18:41 alan_o: no, but there are some stock around at a few places Mar 15 17:19:17 alan_o: we still have the zippy - http://tincantools.com/product.php?productid=16147&cat=0&page=2&featured Mar 15 17:19:33 alan_o: and you really don't get full 100baseT speeds out of the zippy2 Mar 15 17:20:09 do you get 10baseT? Mar 15 17:20:18 1baseT? Mar 15 17:20:44 av500: hehe Mar 15 17:20:47 av500: no Mar 15 17:20:55 0.1baset? Mar 15 17:20:57 av500: more like 5baseT Mar 15 17:21:21 5th base, not bad :) Mar 15 17:22:28 hehe Mar 15 17:24:24 heh Mar 15 17:33:42 reminds me of the old rg59 days Mar 15 17:34:51 that newfangled stuff? Mar 15 17:35:00 what about the yellow cable! Mar 15 17:37:26 rg-8 ftw! Mar 15 17:39:16 yep Mar 15 17:39:54 * av500 remembers running around uni and opening ceiling tiles to find the AUI with the collision LED on.... Mar 15 17:40:15 that stuff was so expensive too Mar 15 17:40:23 or vampire taps going bad over time.... Mar 15 17:40:52 jay6981: well, we used it well past it's due date Mar 15 17:41:59 but then, that institute has a switched circuit RS232 network still running when I joined it :) Mar 15 17:42:05 haha Mar 15 17:42:06 RG-8 is nice stuff - for radio comms :) Mar 15 17:42:27 * djlewis founds tons of unused copper in the ceilings. Mar 15 17:42:34