**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 26 02:59:58 2012 Mar 26 03:48:15 can anyone help me out getting a UVC camera to work on the beaglebone? Mar 26 04:20:17 hi to all Mar 26 04:22:19 how to install beaglebone Mar 26 04:23:11 hi ds2 can u provide link to install beaglebone in linux Mar 26 04:26:54 plz provide me link for intall beaglebone setup for linux Mar 26 04:27:30 hi calculas can u provide me link Mar 26 04:28:23 hi Vigneswari plz provide me link for download beaglebone set up for linux Mar 26 06:15:59 is there a prebuild uvcvido kernel module for the beaglebone or how do i go about adding that? Mar 26 06:16:07 *uvcvideo Mar 26 07:38:36 hi all :) i have more problem to try to run qt app with sgx acceleration. How can i start the sgx acceleration? Mar 26 07:39:10 Hello, i want to use gpio pins on the BBoard.. directly.. is it possible? Mar 26 07:40:26 Using BBoard rev c5.. in the schematic.. gpio pins on the chip does not seem to be connected to anything else... then. there is no way to use it? Mar 26 07:40:32 as input pins... Mar 26 07:42:38 pilote: http://bbfordummies.blogspot.de/2009/07/1.html Mar 26 07:43:09 pilote: and if you leave out the direction change, it will obviously be an input, not an output. go figure :) Mar 26 07:43:27 oh thanks.. i will have a look. Mar 26 07:43:49 the board is xM Mar 26 07:44:32 pilote: e.g. example 3. took me about 3 minutes of google-fooing "beagleboard gpio" - so consider doing consider doing your homework first next time ;) Mar 26 07:45:36 but this one working only with BBoard? Mar 26 07:45:56 it seems to work with Expansion board isn't it? Mar 26 07:46:06 http://elinux.org/images/5/51/Bb-expansion.pdf Mar 26 07:46:14 nope. this is general linux knowledge Mar 26 07:47:40 okay, thank you! Mar 26 07:50:13 ah. and .. is there any way possible to control these pins through C API? sorry i couldn't find anything on the web. Mar 26 07:51:16 pilote: just googling "beagleboard gpio c" gives me at least 4 example on the first page. Mar 26 07:51:19 maybe i m foolish.. but these directions are described in shell scripts.. Mar 26 07:52:41 pilote: nope, you are just not trying yourself, but wanting other people to do your work in finding information. Mar 26 07:52:57 pilote: heres my last effort to help: http://elinux.org/EBC_Exercise_03_gpio_Polling_and_Interrupts Mar 26 07:53:06 the xM is make me crazy -.-' I want try some qt app with sgx acceleration enable. What is the best linux distro to try and learn this? Mar 26 07:53:19 (will only help agina if i have the impression you really tried yourself. kkthxbb) Mar 26 07:53:50 okay. thanks! Mar 26 07:54:43 the shell giveth, the shell taketh Mar 26 07:55:54 av500: can you provide me exact steps for giveth and taketh? Mar 26 08:48:18 hi Mar 26 08:57:11 so, like, angstrom is giving me cloud9-images that don't boot on my beaglebone. i get CCCCCCC instead of u-boot messages. Mar 26 09:01:46 and you changed u-boot? Mar 26 09:03:03 the CCCCCCC is coming from the stock angstrom cloud9-image build Mar 26 09:03:16 * russell-- didn't touch nuthin' Mar 26 09:03:54 but you were able to boot before? Mar 26 09:04:15 with the pre-cooked image, it boots fine Mar 26 09:05:03 so what did you change? Mar 26 09:05:11 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-eglibc-ipk-v2012.02-core-beaglebone-2012.02.14.img.xz Mar 26 09:05:26 that works, my built-from-source one doesn't Mar 26 09:44:05 how can i run sgx acceleration on xM? i get No SGX hardware, not starting PVR Mar 26 09:44:51 now explain it again as if we are not standing behind you, watching your screen Mar 26 09:45:57 what information do you want? Mar 26 09:46:07 need* Mar 26 09:46:25 i'm running a custom image from narcissus Mar 26 09:46:35 its a 2.6.32 kernel Mar 26 09:48:53 av500: i try to lanch some app demo that run with glx but nothing work Mar 26 09:49:13 if i run /etc/init.d/pvrinit start that says No SGX hardware, not starting PVR Mar 26 09:49:48 and you checked the sgx stuff in narcissus? Mar 26 09:49:53 yes Mar 26 09:50:19 i'm new to bb and maybe is a easy problem Mar 26 09:50:34 maybe you know what i have to look at Mar 26 09:56:15 mmm cputype in shell says 0x00000E00 is correct? Mar 26 09:57:16 no idea Mar 26 09:58:15 do you know where is the script pvrinit so i can look what this script do? Mar 26 09:58:54 ok its in /etc/init.d/ Mar 26 10:18:39 Hi.. i am setting up Angstrong developement on my host but i am unable to download the meta-smartphone . i get a message as fatal: HTTP request failed.... What should be done to solve the problem Mar 26 10:19:24 retry? Mar 26 10:20:38 i have tried it many times (6-7)... but still i get the same message Mar 26 10:22:07 All other sources are getting download properly... there is problem in only meta-smartphone Mar 26 10:27:26 pastebin a log Mar 26 10:42:48 av500: log http://pastebin.com/1gAjPRkr Mar 26 10:49:29 Failed connect to git.shr-project.org:80 Mar 26 10:49:58 http://git.shr-project.org/git/ works for me Mar 26 10:52:00 git clone works for me too Mar 26 10:54:50 git clone does not work for me.... i am working under proxy.. can that be a problem?... git clone works for other sources. Mar 26 10:55:03 yes, proxy can be a problem Mar 26 10:56:59 I will try it on a direct internet connection... thanks Mar 26 12:30:36 hi,,,,has anyone compiled the kernel recently using the following link. Mar 26 12:30:38 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom Mar 26 12:31:06 sure compiling right now :) Mar 26 12:32:41 I compiled it 2 weeks before and did not get any error, it did compile 3.0.23 but now it is giving following error again and again....do you have any idea ? Mar 26 12:32:44 ERROR: Function failed: Fetcher failure for URL: 'git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git;branch=linux-3.0.y;protocol=git'. Unable to fetch URL from any source. ERROR: Logfile of failure stored in: /home/rashid/setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2010_x-eglibc/work/beagleboard-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/linux-3.0.25-r118a/temp/log.do_fetch.18551 NOTE: package linux-3.0.25-r118a: task do_fetch: Failed ERROR: Task Mar 26 12:33:26 inux_3.0.bb, do_fetch) failed with exit code '1' Waiting for 1 active tasks to finish: 0: python-2.7.2-r1.9 do_compile (pid 32140) NOTE: package python-2.7.2-r1.9: task do_compile: Succeeded NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 705 tasks of which 699 didn't need to be rerun and 1 failed. Summary: 1 task failed: /home/rashid/setup-scripts/sources/meta-ti/recipes-kernel/linux/linux_3.0.bb, do_fetch Summary: There were 8 WARNING messages sh Mar 26 12:34:52 any idea how to start reading IMU sensor data using beagleboard i2c? Mar 26 12:35:11 I am using MPU6050 Mar 26 12:35:31 adonis: are you directly connected to the inet? Mar 26 12:35:58 yes. Mar 26 12:36:19 Adonis: I hav the same about 2 hours ago...restarted it and it worked fine Mar 26 12:36:22 yes Martron,,,,do you think it is related to some firewall issue ? Mar 26 12:36:32 had* Mar 26 12:36:55 MPU605 sensor +Beagleboard project Mar 26 12:37:21 Martron : i was thinking that it might be some problem with latest linux kernel source.... I have tried it several times with the same error :( Mar 26 12:37:28 hiaweng: http://elinux.org/EBC_Exercise_05_I2C Mar 26 12:38:18 adonis: as i told you..i had the same error but now its working fine....try a ./oebb.sh update if it's still not working Mar 26 12:38:36 procedure of reading sensor through i2c of beagleboard? Mar 26 12:38:50 @ Martron : ok,,let me try again and thanks a lot :) Mar 26 12:38:58 adonis: sure Mar 26 12:39:13 welcome Mar 26 12:40:12 what are the required steps to read any IMU sensor data? please any idea? Mar 26 12:43:29 has anyone used the uvc complined webcam with beagleboard xm ? Mar 26 12:49:40 anyone using WEBCAM with beagleboard xm Mar 26 14:19:17 Do any of you have experience with the wl1271 driver ? Mar 26 14:19:37 driver or bus glue? Mar 26 14:20:07 actually, I'm not sure, maybe both. I'm wondering if it lets you specify which sdio port your device is on, or does it scan. I was looking through source to see if there was a module_param but I don't see it Mar 26 14:20:36 I know very little about sdio ... perhaps it has some hotplug/enumeration scheme like usb that I don't know about Mar 26 14:21:20 Normally I would 1) try it 2) look through source and try to figure it out. But I don't have the hardware yet, and 2 is confusing me Mar 26 14:21:27 koen: or bus driver Mar 26 14:21:51 bus glue is what they use to patch up public transport? Mar 26 14:29:05 SilicaGel: there is no scanning Mar 26 14:29:48 SilicaGel: the way wl1271 is hooked up to a system requires OOB interrupts too, not the SDIO speced in-band interrupt mechanism Mar 26 14:30:35 Oh, crap! Mar 26 14:30:44 also, generally, on omap parts, the first mmc port is used for a real slot, if you need one since it's the only one that can handle 3.0V Mar 26 14:31:04 and then since wl1271 is 1.8V, it gets attached to a second port Mar 26 14:31:20 so the mmc is used just as a high-speed data path Mar 26 14:31:31 * mranostay yawns Mar 26 14:31:36 the board file hookup code illustrates this Mar 26 14:31:46 crap, WLAN_IRQ Mar 26 14:31:51 I see what you mean. Mar 26 14:32:18 what do you mean "the board file hookup code" Mar 26 14:32:31 sounds like you are looking at it now Mar 26 14:32:57 the "file that DT taketh" away Mar 26 14:33:06 the initialization of omap2_hsmmc_info, where the information on each mmc interface that is board-specific is populated Mar 26 14:33:09 no, I was looking at the schematic symbol I created for the TiWi-R2 Mar 26 14:33:15 ahh, ok Mar 26 14:33:44 so look at, say, arch/arm/mach-omap2/board-omap3evm.c Mar 26 14:33:54 in any recent-like kernel Mar 26 14:34:06 and look at everything inside *WL12XX* Mar 26 14:34:13 you'll see what I mean Mar 26 14:34:28 can mkcard.txt work with a microsdHC? Mar 26 14:34:30 there's also the PM IRQ Mar 26 14:34:56 av500, in the future! it holds the promise of the future! Mar 26 14:35:44 .irq = OMAP_GPIO_IRQ(AM335XEVM_WLAN_IRQ_GPIO), Mar 26 14:35:49 hrm Mar 26 14:36:15 depends on the kernel and boardfile, but yeah Mar 26 14:36:24 so if I want to use board-am334xevm.c without modifying it (I think that's what beaglebone uses) then I have to choose mmc2 and whatever IRQ that's defined to Mar 26 14:37:06 ah crap and I think it is demanding uart1 for the bluetooth Mar 26 14:37:18 I guess, I don't really know what you are trying to do though Mar 26 14:37:28 yeah, there's BT on there too Mar 26 14:37:44 I'm making a cape with a TiWi-R2 and some other crap on it Mar 26 14:37:50 but as usual the beaglebone is getting in my way >:( Mar 26 14:38:34 impossible Mar 26 14:38:38 If the bluetooth really wants UART1 that's kind of a problem for me in that UART1's only pins on the cape are the same pins needed by DCAN1 Mar 26 14:38:39 SilicaGel: you are free to edit files Mar 26 14:38:46 how is it getting in your way? :) Mar 26 14:38:55 it won't edit the files for me? Mar 26 14:38:59 what the hell man Mar 26 14:38:59 yeah, edit edit edit Mar 26 14:39:00 * SilicaGel kicks it Mar 26 14:39:08 we don't support self-editing source Mar 26 14:39:21 why not, I hear windows does that ! Mar 26 14:39:23 * SilicaGel runs Mar 26 14:39:42 we know where you live Mar 26 14:40:03 ok. Wellllll they also want mmc2, and I don't. I want mmc1. So I guess I'll have to make a patch. jwinnebeck is gonna love this. Mar 26 14:41:16 SilicaGel: are you designing it for PM too? ideally you should allow for a s/w controlled regulator Mar 26 14:41:40 I had not yet thought of that. Mar 26 14:41:50 if you look at the evm modules code in omap3evm..you'll see an example for that from a s/w spec Mar 26 14:42:00 also the schematic is available for reference, of course Mar 26 14:42:39 wtf? http://www.riscosopen.org/content/sales/cmos-widgets Mar 26 14:42:57 i'm looking. What pin I don't see yet. Mar 26 14:43:07 I see this one Mar 26 14:43:16 int status = gpio_request(am335xevm_wlan_data.bt_enable_gpio, "bt_en\n"); Mar 26 14:43:19 SilicaGel: RF, so it's horrible at power sucking, definitely should allow for power down IMHO Mar 26 14:43:39 SilicaGel: too many people forget the that SoC is the least of their worries in overall system power :) Mar 26 14:44:58 mdp: since tablets, its the darn backlight :) Mar 26 14:45:19 SilicaGel: we're looking at different boards right now Mar 26 14:45:34 av500, yeah, I was thinking to suggest that most people hold in their hands a perfect indicator of the real culprits Mar 26 14:45:51 display and wireless Mar 26 14:46:31 assuming that all the world is a handset/tablet and their are no other devices, of course :P Mar 26 14:47:45 ok i'll look at omap3-evm now. sorry i9 was looking at board-am335xevm beacuse i thought that's closer to what i've got Mar 26 14:48:13 np, let me see..I'm just less familiar with that tree Mar 26 14:48:29 it's such a different fork of the kernel I find it hard to follow Mar 26 14:48:41 much less that board-am335xevm.c which is a total POS Mar 26 14:49:16 but I don't really have strong opinions on the subject Mar 26 14:51:23 {wl12xx_init, DEV_ON_BASEBOARD, (PROFILE_0 | PROFILE_3 | PROFILE_5)}, Mar 26 14:51:23 I don't know what they mean by these PROFILE things here Mar 26 14:51:34 What the hell is a PROFILE ? Mar 26 14:51:54 he he Mar 26 14:51:58 LOL Mar 26 14:52:09 that's there to completely an utterly confuse you Mar 26 14:52:11 did it work? Mar 26 14:52:19 yeah Mar 26 14:52:22 ok, good Mar 26 14:52:33 I'll pass on the feedback..mission accomplished Mar 26 14:52:34 lol Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-eglibc-ipk-v2011.11 is 3.2giga -.-' how can i put on my sd with 4 giga... why is too big this sdimage?!? Mar 26 14:52:49 is there a PROFILE12 that I'm not supposed to know about? Mar 26 14:53:01 SilicaGel: you need to somewhat ignore that..it's specific to the very complicated full functionality EVM Mar 26 14:53:15 stuk_gen: in my world 3.2 is smaller than 4 Mar 26 14:53:35 av500: yes but the rootfs partition is only 3.1 giga Mar 26 14:53:41 SilicaGel: because bone and the evm live in the same board file, you have all these profile things that are specific to the EVM paths Mar 26 14:53:42 * @profile - if present, else PROFILE_NONE Mar 26 14:53:42 ? Mar 26 14:53:55 oh really Mar 26 14:54:09 av500: 4giga, one the boot is 70mega the second is 3.1giga Mar 26 14:54:16 SilicaGel: on EVM there's a CPLD that does pin routing to handle all the stackable boards on top of the baseboard so all the peripherals can work Mar 26 14:54:16 And this is better than just #ifdef ing the hell out of it, I presume? Mar 26 14:54:25 stuk_gen: isnt the above an image? Mar 26 14:54:30 SilicaGel: and that CPLD implements these profiles Mar 26 14:54:38 stuk_gen: http://xkcd.com/394/ Mar 26 14:54:44 SilicaGel: on BeagleBone it's a nop Mar 26 14:54:58 mdp: so TI is still putting CPLDs on EVMs Mar 26 14:55:10 that drove us crazy on the omap1 "innovator" Mar 26 14:55:11 av500: yes but is the image of boot+fs or only fs? i thinks is only fs? i'm wrong? Mar 26 14:55:32 find out Mar 26 14:55:40 if bone had its own boardfile it would be readable code…and about 5% of that current boardfile size…but that's not allowed Mar 26 14:55:46 av500:what? Mar 26 14:55:54 who isn't allowing it Mar 26 14:55:56 av500, no comment Mar 26 14:56:01 and what stops us from sayin gscrew them and making our own Mar 26 14:56:05 other than laziness Mar 26 14:56:18 well, the community can do as they choose Mar 26 14:56:24 :) Mar 26 14:57:09 ok I just found wl12xx_set_power() which doe stuff like "gpio_set_value(am335xevm_wlan_data.wlan_enable_gpio, 1)" Mar 26 14:57:16 ultimately, none of it matters when you can't even put one boardfile upstream anyway..as it's all got to be DT enabled, no new boardfiles Mar 26 14:57:29 the Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-eglibc-ipk-v2011.11-core-beagleboard-2011.11.21.img.gz is a roofs image... Mar 26 14:57:35 rootfs* Mar 26 14:57:44 so all the crap in this file could be replaced with DT and board files go away ? Mar 26 14:57:50 IMHO, in the kernel fork that people are using, it would be sane to have a separate board file while we got through this year where am335x can't be upstream Mar 26 14:58:07 I hope that comes after this self-editing source modification feature. Mar 26 14:58:11 SilicaGel: eventually, yes, that will happen…it's just a lot of effort and calendar time to get there Mar 26 14:58:14 stuk_gen: and where is it from? Mar 26 14:58:25 SilicaGel: in process now, no worries Mar 26 14:58:26 av500: here http://www.beagleboard.org/angstrom-mirror/www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ Mar 26 14:58:50 stuk_gen: and where in this folder do you see a 3.1GB file? Mar 26 14:58:56 or 3.2 Mar 26 14:59:11 av500: when you extract that image Mar 26 14:59:37 mdp, so until then we have a boardfile that is semi-stupid eh? Mar 26 14:59:49 better than fully stupid Mar 26 14:59:58 SilicaGel true... Mar 26 14:59:59 board-jerseyshorecast.c Mar 26 15:00:13 must be an east coast thing.... Mar 26 15:00:21 mru, true true Mar 26 15:00:29 right. you left coasters have board-kardashian.c Mar 26 15:00:45 * ka6sox is not east coaster.... Mar 26 15:00:57 oh nuts Mar 26 15:01:05 i failed at geography! Mar 26 15:01:12 ka6sox: unless somebody wants to submit a patch to koen's tree for the production fork Mar 26 15:01:12 :( Mar 26 15:01:34 ka6sox: iirc, the machine id was deallocated by RMK though on request Mar 26 15:01:46 mdp, but given the new DT direction that will never go upstrearm though... Mar 26 15:01:50 depends on whether it's worth it to you to go do it Mar 26 15:01:56 bleh... Mar 26 15:02:01 ka6sox: correct, it's all just temporary Mar 26 15:02:22 you need to accept that the conversion won't be done until late 2012 at best Mar 26 15:02:28 thats a lot of work for "temporary"...unless it will really become permanent as DT slips further into the future... Mar 26 15:03:03 and I doubt that RMK is going to be happy re-activating it... Mar 26 15:03:36 rmk is never happy Mar 26 15:03:37 it's unfortunate, I wasn't in a position at the time to make a solid stand on doing this a sane way for the interim Mar 26 15:03:59 mru, true Mar 26 15:03:59 now, I agree, it's kinda not worth it Mar 26 15:04:01 m335xevm_wlan_data.wlan_enable_gpio = GPIO_TO_PIN(1, 30); <--- I'd like to see the schematic that explains this, but if it goes through a CPLD, I have a feeling I have little chance of actually figurng out what that means Mar 26 15:04:05 next year it'll all be better :) Mar 26 15:04:16 and it also does a test if (gp_evm_revision == GP_EVM_REV_IS_1_1A) ... which presumably doesn't apply to me on a bone either Mar 26 15:04:19 how long did it take for DNF? Mar 26 15:04:36 SilicaGel: maybe you should have a look at the beagle wifi thing Mar 26 15:04:41 Maybe it doesn't matter -- I just modify this code via a patch or a fork to e whatever I want it to be Mar 26 15:04:43 SilicaGel, for now..we patch. Mar 26 15:04:44 there is no cpld there Mar 26 15:04:57 and ignore things that don't matter Mar 26 15:05:09 ka6sox: in the future, you will patch too Mar 26 15:05:15 just you will patch DTs Mar 26 15:05:20 yup Mar 26 15:05:30 what is the beagle wifi thing, is this an actual product? Mar 26 15:05:36 almost Mar 26 15:05:36 av500, I meant patch the boardfile for now. Mar 26 15:05:53 SilicaGel: or even look at panda Mar 26 15:05:53 SilicaGel: bbtoys-wifi..I have one sitting here..yes Mar 26 15:05:59 that has the wifi onboard Mar 26 15:06:13 and as far as sdio goes, should be pretty much the same Mar 26 15:06:35 bleh...sdio on a bone... Mar 26 15:06:47 hmmm bbtoystore.com wasn't helpful HAHA Mar 26 15:12:59 mdp where did you buy this bbtoys-wifi ? Mar 26 15:13:09 boardzoo iirc Mar 26 15:13:37 http://www.beagleboardtoys.com/ Mar 26 15:14:46 oh. rats. i was looking there and don't see a wifi module. Mar 26 15:15:20 its not out yet Mar 26 15:16:36 Anyone has tried writing to 24C256 chips using i2ctools? (i2cset) Mar 26 15:17:10 The write succeeds (no error) but if I read back the value it hasnt changed Mar 26 15:17:37 WP pin? Mar 26 15:17:48 I tried with the write protect bit on, and the write fails if it is on Mar 26 15:19:23 I'm using byte mode Mar 26 15:23:09 Could it be a faulty chip? Mar 26 15:25:06 jsabeaudry: well, the optimal way would be checking at the pins with a good scope :/ Mar 26 15:25:28 LetoThe2nd, the i2c pins? Mar 26 15:25:36 I just happen to have a good scope by my side :) Mar 26 15:26:03 jsabeaudry: well then check whats going on on the i2c bus, if the write command gets sent properly. Mar 26 15:27:01 The WLAN module on the pandaboard plugs right into the omap. Different voltage on the SDIO ports on the OMAP4430 than the AM3359 I take it Mar 26 15:27:31 1.8V i think Mar 26 15:27:58 release the magic smoke :P Mar 26 15:28:00 1.8V on the AM335x right Mar 26 15:28:09 that's why I need that stupid bidirectional automatic level shifter contraption Mar 26 15:28:36 MagicShift Mar 26 15:28:48 oh yes. I didn't mean "stupid." I meant "magic." Mar 26 15:32:17 * ka6sox missed the 'f' the first time... Mar 26 15:34:18 SilicaGel: omap4 is 1.8V too Mar 26 15:42:19 Well the spec sheet of the chip says it expects a 2 byte address but i2cset send a 1 bytes address so that is probably the problem Mar 26 15:43:55 jsabeaudry: very well possibly, IIRC the jump in addressing is 24c16 -> 24c32 Mar 26 15:44:15 interesting for a 256 bytes chip to require 2 bytes of address nonetheless Mar 26 15:44:47 jsabeaudry: erm... a 24c256 usually does not have 256 byrtes. Mar 26 15:45:27 oh! 256 kb! Mar 26 15:45:57 32 KB Mar 26 15:46:06 bad assumptions on my part Mar 26 15:46:06 jsabeaudry: thats closer, yes. Mar 26 15:46:11 thanks for the correction Mar 26 15:49:29 Anyone aware of tool similar to i2c-tools but that will output two-bytes addresses? Mar 26 15:49:49 anyone played with 1588 on AM335x? Mar 26 15:53:15 jsabeaudry: write oen Mar 26 15:53:16 one Mar 26 15:54:33 Ah the eeprom driver works charms Mar 26 16:07:13 av500: interesting. Looking at the pandaboard schematic it looks like they hook the 3V TiWi-R2 module up to an MMC on the OMAP4 directly Mar 26 16:09:12 SilicaGel: maybe that mmc can do 3,3V Mar 26 16:10:55 or maybe they were just feeling lucky Mar 26 16:11:42 maybe Mar 26 16:12:25 MicroSD cards are 3.3V though right Mar 26 16:14:04 SilicaGel: are you sure the modules isnt 1.8v? Mar 26 16:14:06 oh dammit Mar 26 16:14:15 the panda board has a TiWi-R1 on it, not R2 Mar 26 16:14:19 I wonder if they are different Mar 26 16:14:26 not in voltage Mar 26 16:14:32 hrm Mar 26 16:14:44 SilicaGel: the omap3/4 have only 1 3,3V mmc Mar 26 16:14:59 and thats used for sdcard, so the wifi thing is 1.8V Mar 26 16:16:00 oh so all MMCx ar enot created equal Mar 26 16:16:27 ok. TiWi R2. Vio = 1.8V. Vbat = 3.6V (typ) Mar 26 16:16:37 Vbat is what they call the supply voltage Mar 26 16:16:43 and it apparently can be 3.0V to 4.8V Mar 26 16:16:59 so if I need an enable pin that drives a voltage regulator, hm Mar 26 16:18:32 oh it does have an neable pin for the WLAN and BT Mar 26 16:18:40 I wonder how much current it draws when it's disabled Mar 26 16:18:43 maybe that's all I really need Mar 26 16:20:47 hrm power consumption in wlan mode when not receiving or transmitting is <1.2 mA, that's pretty low Mar 26 16:21:03 bluetooth deep sleep 70 mA typ Mar 26 16:21:59 1271 is actually more trouble when powered Mar 26 16:22:05 I wonder why this guy gerald says "The cape is 3.3V" Mar 26 16:22:11 ? Mar 26 16:22:15 what cape? Mar 26 16:22:20 heh, "this guy gerald" Mar 26 16:22:23 sorry Mar 26 16:22:33 i'm going thorugh an old posting about this on the group. Mar 26 16:22:43 By "the cape" I think he really means "the bone expansion header" Mar 26 16:23:17 where that pin would in fact be 3.3V I think wouldn't it, mmc1 is just GPI1_13, GPIO1_12, etc. which are 3.3V normally Mar 26 16:23:19 * Russ vell gerald's just zis guy, you know? Mar 26 16:23:30 do they become 1.8V when you pinmux it to be an MMC1 pin? Mar 26 16:24:16 who said that? Mar 26 16:24:55 Who said what, that they are 3.3V ? Mar 26 16:25:11 omap3 and omap4 are 1.8V Mar 26 16:25:14 bone is 3.3 Mar 26 16:25:20 ti 1271 is 1.8V Mar 26 16:25:30 oh i had it backwards i'm sorry Mar 26 16:25:36 so they are *all* 3.3V on the bone Mar 26 16:25:50 yes Mar 26 16:25:53 and on the omap is this a true statement: one mmc is 3.3V and the rest are 1.8V ? Mar 26 16:25:58 yes Mar 26 16:26:28 at least on omap3 and 5 Mar 26 16:26:30 and 4 Mar 26 16:26:37 ok and Mar 26 16:26:55 on the pandaboard schematic that I now have open they have the WLAN_SDIO_Dx pins hookd up to SDMMC2_DATx Mar 26 16:27:00 not on every "abomination that TI chose to market better by naming it OMAP-something".... Mar 26 16:27:16 SilicaGel: yes, 1.8V to 1.8V Mar 26 16:27:17 at least they don't put a lower case i in front of everything Mar 26 16:27:30 iOmap Mar 26 16:29:20 iMAP Mar 26 16:32:48 good morning all Mar 26 16:33:09 ah, this guys koen Mar 26 16:33:11 -s Mar 26 16:33:41 iKoen? Mar 26 16:46:06 That sounds like swedish furniture Mar 26 16:46:46 koen: good ... erm ... afternoon here Mar 26 16:48:08 "TiVo sues Time Warner Cable" ... ha ... they should sue them for sucking! Mar 26 17:44:20 SilicaGel: nooooo! my TivoHD w/ TA and TWC have been in a working state for 1.5 years…I hope a lawsuit doesn't make TWC hit a button and make everything flaky Mar 26 17:44:44 :( Mar 26 17:44:50 I have a TWC DVR Mar 26 17:45:03 It's ummmmm i can't remember for sure but I watn to say scientific atlanta 8005 or something like that Mar 26 17:45:13 and it is the biggest piece of crap in my house, and that's including the actual crap Mar 26 17:48:03 it's past my caffeine cutoff of noon, but I'm falling asleep. Perhaps some of this Constant Commant tea with rind of oranges and sweet spice Mar 26 17:49:37 SilicaGel: oh, I'm sorry to hear that..I have family that have the TWC junk box…now the 3rd generation of s/w on those boxes and it still sux Mar 26 17:50:00 yeah, I should just buy a tivo. :-/ Mar 26 17:51:11 well, the new premiere is a bit shaky/slow imho..and the pricing model I don't like Mar 26 17:51:46 I'm temped to go back to mythtv some days, but I don't want to add that hobby back into my schedule :) Mar 26 17:52:35 pirate bay ftw Mar 26 17:53:17 that's why I don't have mythtv... if watching tv is my hobby, mythtv maintenance makes it kind of a job Mar 26 17:57:29 did they raid pirate bay again, or is that still in the works? Mar 26 18:07:22 i don't know Mar 26 18:07:38 but i read that thing about pirate bay wanting their own network of unmaned airships Mar 26 18:08:27 I have yet to grasp why that really helps them unless individual users have access to the equipment that can talk to these air ships. If there are common downlinks, the authorities would just go after those, not the airships. Seems like somebody should lay off the wacky weed to me. Mar 26 18:11:09 sweet, I fixed the tearing issue while trying to debug the pixclock on bone Mar 26 18:22:57 SilicaGel: I think the whole idea just got mixed up with "Iron Sky" or something Mar 26 18:23:02 misdirection Mar 26 18:28:19 hm Mar 26 18:29:03 Hi,,,anyone here has used webcam with beagleboard xm ? Mar 26 18:33:41 koen: /me is having trouble booting a self-built cloud9-image on beaglebone ... i get CCCCCC on the console when i boot. so, i've tried to hand-build a microSD card and now it boots the kernel but i end up with some udevd unhappiness messages as here: http://pastebin.com/kFNVwcZC Mar 26 18:38:57 Yay I got a couple of adafruit prototyping capes Mar 26 18:39:03 * SilicaGel petpet limor Mar 26 18:39:07 What happened to /sys/class/pwm? Mar 26 18:39:24 it got pwmed Mar 26 18:39:32 mru++ Mar 26 19:01:39 Is there a wiki page somewhere that explains how arago, meta-ti, hvaibhav, and koen's repo are related? Mar 26 19:02:02 no Mar 26 19:10:36 this is curious, my deploy/images/beaglebone gets a symlink Cloud9-IDE-beaglebone.sdimg -> Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-eglibc-ipk-v2012.03-core-beaglebone.rootfs.sdimg but the .sdimg file doesn't exist ... wtf? Mar 26 19:12:36 has anyone successfully built an angstrom image that boots on a beaglebone in the last 2 weeks? i might just be doing something dumb, but it would be nice to know Mar 26 19:13:04 denix: you're in the king geroge, right? Mar 26 19:13:33 koen: right, king george Mar 26 19:14:04 What sort of things can one return a board that's stopped working for? Mar 26 19:14:06 koen: do they still have the discount? even w/o one it was the cheapest one in the area. Mar 26 19:17:11 denix: not sure, I'm going to point our booking guy to the king george Mar 26 19:18:13 jesus Mar 26 19:18:17 koen: http://www.kinggeorge.com/ Mar 26 19:18:32 I thought denix was referring to koen as King George :) Mar 26 19:18:35 Crofton: save me, jebus! :) Mar 26 19:19:46 I'm in something else Mar 26 19:20:24 which one? Mar 26 19:21:02 Hotel Fusion Mar 26 19:22:07 I compared ratings and Fusion was worse than KG Mar 26 19:22:28 Fusion was better than otjhers Mar 26 19:22:36 it is not like I will be in it much :) Mar 26 19:23:23