**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 30 02:59:58 2012 Mar 30 03:00:21 heh touche prpplague touche :) Mar 30 03:01:05 * prpplague slaps mdp with a yocto thumb drive Mar 30 03:02:18 heh Mar 30 03:03:52 sweet jesus Mar 30 03:04:04 linus just mentioned me on g+ Mar 30 03:04:18 saying that I'm wrong, of course Mar 30 03:04:39 * mranostay leaches onto koen's fame Mar 30 03:05:00 you want to be famous for being wrong too? Mar 30 03:05:56 sure why not Mar 30 03:06:05 koen: which post? Mar 30 03:08:23 https://plus.google.com/111049168280159033135/posts/Ao2T3oiSyH7 Mar 30 03:08:25 koen: holy cow Mar 30 03:09:33 * koen ate half a cow today Mar 30 03:09:49 * prpplague bows to the all might koen Mar 30 03:10:07 ula'koen ula'koen ula'kown Mar 30 03:11:21 koen: i think you apply for citizenship here now :P Mar 30 03:11:23 how is a beaglebone with multiple expansion boards different than a PC with expansion slots? Mar 30 03:12:30 koen: wow wow wow Mar 30 03:13:25 jay6981: yes, the PCI cards are discoverable Mar 30 03:13:45 jay6981: on the beaglebone we can only hint at the devices present with the eeprom Mar 30 03:14:05 * prpplague debates a response Mar 30 03:15:12 koen: sorry my response will have to wait until tomorrow other than a +1 Mar 30 03:15:23 by then linus is sure to have lost interest Mar 30 03:15:38 koen: i am soooo impressed!!! Mar 30 03:17:41 hmmm still weirdness on my st7735fb Mar 30 03:19:45 don't worry, u-boot is small and relatively simple Mar 30 03:20:43 Russ: -ESARCASM? Mar 30 03:21:03 ya Mar 30 03:21:18 also I worry that one day, DT will grow to be as complex as C, and then what was the point Mar 30 03:21:47 I'm actually aware of a military program in which they eliminated programming, and instead specified everything in XML Mar 30 03:21:47 so what is the proper alternative to DT? Mar 30 03:21:51 i so want to reply on this, but i'll have to wait until tmorrow Mar 30 03:21:57 jay6981: there is none Mar 30 03:22:05 jay6981: but....... Mar 30 03:22:11 so why all the bashing? Mar 30 03:22:21 their XML became turing complete, and was a programming language, just not called that Mar 30 03:22:29 jay6981: the attitude has always been, do accept crap into kernel for the sake of a half ass fix Mar 30 03:22:58 right, so where's the full fix? Mar 30 03:23:12 spend the extra few cents and make the hardware discoverable Mar 30 03:23:17 jay6981: the problem is that the whole ARM issue is due to the mantra of the high end folks of "push to mainline" Mar 30 03:23:35 Russ: right, or accept that you have to have a specialized loader Mar 30 03:24:01 jay6981: we would not be in this position if the core maintainers hadn't been pushing for every joe smoe developer to push their arm platform to mainline Mar 30 03:24:07 I think I'm on-board with the whole DT, but the further into things I get, the more "now wait a minute" moments I have Mar 30 03:24:13 there's always trade offs for low cost embedded projects Mar 30 03:24:26 Russ: same here Mar 30 03:24:53 Russ: exactly Mar 30 03:24:59 is it going to be like ACPI? Mar 30 03:25:14 bytecode interpreters in the os? Mar 30 03:25:31 dt is similar to that Mar 30 03:25:54 linus was against acpi iirc Mar 30 03:26:02 but on beaglebone the bootloader would need to generate the acpi table for every combination of capes Mar 30 03:26:43 so essentially when new capes ship, they must come with new loaders Mar 30 03:26:49 with the current state of bootloaders, dt and kernel I'd need to have a copy of every possible DT on the sd card Mar 30 03:26:51 koen: hehe you see my share of your ce post? Mar 30 03:27:00 prpplague: yes, thanks for that Mar 30 03:27:10 koen: wasn't too pissy? Mar 30 03:27:14 no Mar 30 03:28:38 I'm still trying to find a way to say "incompetent jerks" in a non offensive manner Mar 30 03:28:58 koen: hehe Mar 30 03:29:16 s/incompetent/inexperienced Mar 30 03:29:23 same difference Mar 30 03:37:08 koen: not really Mar 30 04:04:13 koen: HA Mar 30 04:04:24 koen: apparently someone is watching my posts...... Mar 30 04:27:17 Hmmmmmm Mar 30 04:34:21 * ds2 throws scooby snacks around Mar 30 04:35:18 looks like all the utica kids got bored with their bones already Mar 30 05:47:05 av500: ping Mar 30 06:11:53 <_av500_> jo Mar 30 06:13:03 av500: i always find you active :) you aren't a bot? are you Mar 30 06:22:15 so, my OS draws a distinction Mar 30 06:22:35 between a task and a process Mar 30 06:23:33 a process is a task with a specific set of page tables Mar 30 06:25:21 scheduling, etc works on the level of tasks Mar 30 06:34:02 Linux? Yes scheduler schedules threads not just processes Mar 30 06:54:34 <_av500_> sundar: i am, but i trained hard and passed the turing test Mar 30 06:56:23 _av500_: interesting, are you running on a bb? Mar 30 06:57:14 on a beowulf-cluster of BB, BBxm, PB, PBes, BBone Mar 30 06:57:26 <_av500_> atm, i am running late Mar 30 06:57:33 lol Mar 30 07:14:14 nightline news actually had a section on someone with a youtube video of get this, 1 MILLION VIEWS Mar 30 07:36:05 building arm cross compiler over i486 ...help needed Mar 30 07:36:37 everywhere i find source for i686 what to do? Mar 30 07:37:10 ..? Mar 30 07:37:46 hm? Mar 30 07:38:23 whats the problem? you want to build a crosscompiler on a host running a i486 userland (presumably ancient debian)? Mar 30 07:38:39 yes.. Mar 30 07:38:50 * LetoThe2nd basically does not see any issues. Mar 30 07:39:11 use a sane buildsystem, done. Mar 30 07:39:39 openembedded and ptxdist are relatively well known to produce good cross toolchains. Mar 30 07:41:59 LetoThe2nd:can you suggest me a web site which clearly shows me the whole process Mar 30 07:43:19 qwig: for ptxdist, its http://ptxdist.org/software/ptxdist/appnotes_en.html and specifically http://ptxdist.org/software/ptxdist/appnotes/AppNote_BuildingToolchain.pdf Mar 30 07:43:35 qwig: for angstrom, respectively OE its http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom Mar 30 07:48:02 ok.. Mar 30 08:39:16 <_tasslehoff_> koen: I'm on oe-classic with a console-image, but want to test the ogre samples. Any tip on the easiest/best way to give ogre the X11 environment it needs? Mar 30 08:39:38 <_tasslehoff_> pull in stuff from angstrom-x-image.bb? Mar 30 09:37:04 "Please give us your FTP site, our FAE tried several times to send you the patches, but it failed due to big size. " Mar 30 09:37:11 /o\ Mar 30 09:42:08 few months ago I got a source code package of less than 100 kB in size delivered to me in Russian way Mar 30 09:42:35 as a virus payload? Mar 30 09:42:37 what I got was four 1 gigabyte .rar files which contained win 2k3 server with all the necessary development tools for the system Mar 30 09:42:43 ah Mar 30 09:43:27 a whole vmware virtual machine instead of just those few source code files... Mar 30 09:47:43 mdp: you made history: http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/112 Mar 30 09:50:33 av500: mhrhrh Mar 30 10:06:37 av500, lol Mar 30 12:57:18 Is it possible to install BONE_DRV.exe on a non-english system? Mar 30 12:57:36 It says the language is not supported by the wizard and quits Mar 30 12:57:48 do yourself a favour and install a real OS Mar 30 12:59:38 jsabeaudry: that has been answered on the mailing list Mar 30 13:00:46 av500, great, thanks! Mar 30 13:01:28 mru, it's not for me :) Mar 30 13:07:51 mru: lol Mar 30 13:08:53 mru: Who says he dosen't 'wine BONE_DRV.exe' Mar 30 14:26:35 * mdp reads the trf7970 driver and becomes depressed Mar 30 14:28:26 jumping on the NFC bandwagon? Mar 30 14:28:50 what is nfc supposed to be good for? Mar 30 14:29:12 other than stealing people's bank details Mar 30 14:30:22 i like the nokia, bluetooth-pairing-over-nfc thing Mar 30 14:30:25 You know, the original title of War and Peace was "War: what is it good for" Mar 30 14:31:25 gee, now adding BT into the shitmix Mar 30 14:31:33 av500, always customer driven... Mar 30 14:31:52 mdp: drive them off the premises Mar 30 14:31:57 pesky customers Mar 30 14:32:06 the code written from these analog groups is pretty awful Mar 30 14:33:00 reminds me of the old day when everybody was porting their psos/vxworks code to linux Mar 30 14:33:10 pos code? Mar 30 14:33:16 * av500 has seen that a lot Mar 30 14:33:20 pos Mar 30 14:33:27 pos and nfc go well together Mar 30 14:33:43 on many levels Mar 30 15:10:24 hi all Mar 30 15:10:59 Mar 30 15:11:01 Mar 30 15:11:15 Mar 30 15:11:44 zard: please stop spamming. Mar 30 15:11:59 sorry Mar 30 15:12:37 are you fan of diuna ?? Mar 30 15:28:45 exit Mar 30 15:28:55 end. Mar 30 17:16:50 * mranostay suspects denix is a Gentoo user Mar 30 17:23:21 http://tinyurl.com/6pxq3c2 Mar 30 17:23:55 haha Mar 30 17:26:44 koen, there is a type on http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBone#Regulatory_Compliance_Documentations Mar 30 17:26:53 Ehternet unable to obtain a lease[A4 Only] Mar 30 17:27:45 I'll try to fix that after breakfast Mar 30 17:28:03 I'm not sure if I could create an account and fix it Mar 30 17:28:07 I sort of hope not Mar 30 17:28:10 :) Mar 30 17:28:22 not anymore Mar 30 17:28:22 koen: breakfast? it's well into beer o'clock here Mar 30 17:28:28 the docs posted for the bone seem like they are the FCC ones Mar 30 17:28:31 mru: 10am over here Mar 30 17:28:54 you have half dst? Mar 30 17:28:55 Crofton|work: CE is just an extra page in the fcc report Mar 30 17:29:09 Crofton|work: same test, 2 reports, more $$$$$ Mar 30 17:29:16 ah Mar 30 17:29:23 I admit to skimming Mar 30 17:29:26 Crofton|work: you typo'ed typo :) Mar 30 17:29:39 a meta-typo Mar 30 17:29:53 me and typing are not getting along Mar 30 17:29:59 Hi, I just followed a tutorial and installed ansgtrom on my SD card with a boot partition. How can I tell if my baord is booting from the SD card? Mar 30 17:30:08 Im running on beagle-xm Mar 30 17:30:14 Crofton|work's keyboard should train him better Mar 30 17:30:21 * mranostay makes soldering task for the weekend Mar 30 17:30:36 keithzz: if it boots at all, it's doing it from the sd card Mar 30 17:30:47 then again i don't recall if i have a A3 or A4 Mar 30 17:31:04 no sticker? Mar 30 17:31:30 mru: thank you, why are you saying this? shoudlnt' there be a uboot in the nand on beagle board already installed? Mar 30 17:31:42 mranostay, I'm driving down to do some caving/hiking tomorrow for a few days…I doubt I'll get a test branch up for those other two variants until after I return Mar 30 17:31:46 no nand on xm Mar 30 17:31:52 mru: i'm sure there is. Mar 30 17:31:54 caving is dangerous Mar 30 17:32:04 and there are no caves to speak of in Arizona Mar 30 17:32:05 mdp: i'm sure i can handle getting it setup now :) Mar 30 17:32:07 mranostay, depending on my level of distractions before beer:30 arrives I might push something Mar 30 17:32:19 don't drink and git push ? :) Mar 30 17:32:52 mranostay, beer:30 + gathering outdoors gear may cause me to forget something :) Mar 30 17:33:21 Crofton|work: http://azstateparks.com/parks/kaca/ doesn't count? Mar 30 17:33:26 Crofton|work: well, there's the dead one..been there when I lived there…collosal cave Mar 30 17:33:41 Thank you, another question please, when I boot, its says: reading uEnv.txt and then Unable to read uEnv.txt from mmc...What is this? Mar 30 17:33:48 Crofton|work: I'm going to real ones…carter caves in KY Mar 30 17:34:31 mru: just that the board is about 15 miles^H^H^H^H^H^H 25 kilometers away atm Mar 30 17:34:59 I have been to Carter Caves park for a wedding Mar 30 17:35:06 We stuck our heads in one Mar 30 17:35:14 mranostay: then how are you going to solder it? Mar 30 17:35:23 by magic Mar 30 17:35:24 cool, I guess there's some fancy resort as well..we are camping Mar 30 17:35:24 got one of those extra-long tips? Mar 30 17:35:33 there are big caves 30 minutes from my house Mar 30 17:35:34 that is what she said! Mar 30 17:35:36 mru: mranostay is a jedi Mar 30 17:35:50 that sounds familiar Mar 30 17:35:53 keithzz: uEnv.txt is a file that may reside on the SD card Mar 30 17:35:59 and set variables that will be read Mar 30 17:36:02 so you can modify boot args Mar 30 17:36:13 Tartarus, have you bught your monkey mask yet? Mar 30 17:36:15 or make another command be run (by setting uenvcmd=what you want) Mar 30 17:36:15 Tartarus: so how goes the DT and uboot? :) Mar 30 17:36:19 mranostay, so does your display module have any marking or "tabs" as they call it besides the silk screening? Mar 30 17:36:48 heh wtf do they mean by tabs? Mar 30 17:36:51 mranostay, don't taunt the trained monkey Mar 30 17:36:53 along the screen? Mar 30 17:36:54 nfc Mar 30 17:37:21 I'm going to ask limor Mar 30 17:37:32 * Tartarus throws feces at mranostay Mar 30 17:37:35 she wrote the damn comment Mar 30 17:38:55 not cool Mar 30 17:39:03 mranostay, in any case, I started adding the alternative display build support..it's not that hard to try the other two :) Mar 30 17:40:02 Thank you all, one other question please bare with me, im connected to bb using minicom, if I want to start gnome GUI, without connecting a HDMI cable to a screen, can this be done through rs232? Mar 30 17:40:39 er why? Mar 30 17:41:50 it would be amusing for u-boot contributors to start wearing monkey masks at Linux events Mar 30 17:41:59 mranostay, I think limor simply buys whatever the display of the month is from alibaba.com to put on those breakout boards :) Mar 30 17:41:59 it should be required Mar 30 17:42:54 excluding people with Tested-by lines of course Mar 30 17:42:54 Crofton|work, is linus on the panel gregkh is chairing? Mar 30 17:43:10 not sure Mar 30 17:43:10 Crofton|work: that's the ideal time for somebody in the mask to ask a question Mar 30 17:43:29 "can you elaborate of your comparison of ..." Mar 30 17:43:44 I think I would cancel vacation to be at that Mar 30 17:44:40 heh Mar 30 17:44:49 Tartarus: you coming to LC Summit? Mar 30 17:44:53 nope Mar 30 17:45:10 certainly not now..after being insulted Mar 30 17:45:24 pushing for http://2012.rmll.info/en Mar 30 17:45:26 I do not think being a monkey is bad Mar 30 17:45:44 We'll see if there's budget for me to goto LPC after that, maybe Russ will have to go :) Mar 30 17:46:15 Tartarus, I won't be using any of that budget at least..all my vacations fall on those events. Mar 30 17:46:40 just saving those requests for one big barcelona request Mar 30 17:46:46 rofl Mar 30 17:46:50 I was going to mention that Mar 30 17:47:18 yeah Mar 30 17:47:22 ELC-E is bad for me Mar 30 17:47:24 but this one is not Mar 30 17:47:27 I could submit a session to make fun of this ti vendor driver for that one Mar 30 17:47:37 heh Mar 30 17:47:43 edma? Mar 30 17:47:53 no…the nfc driver Mar 30 17:47:55 aptly named Mar 30 17:48:05 heh nfc driver? Mar 30 17:48:20 this like the SHT project? :) Mar 30 17:48:33 nfc consortium has a sense of humor Mar 30 17:49:52 SHT project was priceless..especially since it was a DoD/NSA program…but it got caught early enough to change it cause the engineers were pronouncing it in front of program managers and they got scared Mar 30 17:50:30 mranostay, otoh, jkridner is an oak…never wavered on preserving the "Beaglebone" name despite some 'concerns' :) Mar 30 17:50:33 * prpplague looks in at the mention of ELC-E Mar 30 17:51:01 mdp: what crude sexual references? :) Mar 30 18:05:50 I have a fresh ansgtom image running on the beagleboard-xm and I would like to go on internet. I connected my router through ethernet to bb-xm and then what should i do? I can't ping google now Mar 30 18:06:30 ping harder? Mar 30 18:06:45 what does ifconfig -a say? Mar 30 18:06:48 :) Mar 30 18:06:52 pastebin pls Mar 30 18:07:53 mranostay, Idon't have internet access from devellopment pc im using thus I can't paste or go on intenet Mar 30 18:08:04 is there anything specific you are looking for? Mar 30 18:08:19 I can see lo and usb0 Mar 30 18:17:11 mranostay: here you go: http://pastebin.com/d09P5mWW Mar 30 18:17:35 I am trying to follow the instruction here to assign a static IP with connman http://www.gigamegablog.com/2012/02/06/beaglebone-linux-101-assigning-a-static-ip-address-with-connman/ Mar 30 18:17:43 but opkg install connman-tests doesnot work Mar 30 18:17:55 it can not find any package called opkg connman Mar 30 18:18:23 there are some connman packages http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/network/connman/ Mar 30 18:18:39 which extension file do I need to download? Mar 30 18:18:54 and after that what is the command to install it? Mar 30 18:19:25 there is no pik file and there are some many directories in the xz files Mar 30 18:19:47 I would appreciate any suggestions Mar 30 18:19:48 did you do opkg update first? Mar 30 18:19:55 yeah Mar 30 18:22:34 To summerrize, I have a fresh ansgtom image running on bb-xm. I can't ping google now, the output of ifconfig -a is here : http://pastebin.com/d09P5mWW Mar 30 18:23:07 sorry I got disconnected Mar 30 18:23:29 keithzz: you have no IP address so it's not surprising it doesn't work Mar 30 18:24:13 I wrote opkg update then opkg install connman-tests and I get the following error Unknown package 'connman-tests'. Mar 30 18:24:35 jay6981, how can I assign an ip address shouldn't that be automatic? Mar 30 18:25:04 assign a static IP :) Mar 30 18:25:09 it can be automatic if you have a dhcp server Mar 30 18:25:18 angs - were there any errors when you did opkg update? Mar 30 18:25:26 and your system is condfigured to start a dhcp client Mar 30 18:25:33 no Mar 30 18:25:33 I had no error Mar 30 18:25:59 mm, ok, do you of a tutorial that will teach me how to install a dhcp server and run it? Mar 30 18:26:10 no but google does I'm sure Mar 30 18:26:41 I get the following outputs http://pastebin.com/RCavSKRK Mar 30 18:26:48 * _av500_ thinks conman is a con artist Mar 30 18:27:26 _av500_: funny how the bootloader verses kernel debate seems to re-surface every few years Mar 30 18:27:39 do I misspeal something? I copy the code from here http://www.gigamegablog.com/2012/02/06/beaglebone-linux-101-assigning-a-static-ip-address-with-connman/ Mar 30 18:27:43 <_av500_> prpplague: and i am angry Mar 30 18:27:48 how this guy made it work Mar 30 18:27:59 <_av500_> prpplague: i tried to troll linus and nishant has to jump in frotn of him Mar 30 18:28:05 _av500_: hehe Mar 30 18:28:13 angs - your opkg update is not outputing progress, so something is broken Mar 30 18:28:26 _av500_: i was going to reply to linus last night as well, but i had had a few beers so i decided to wait, hehe Mar 30 18:28:28 <_av500_> prpplague: so its monkey feces to TI dallas.... Mar 30 18:28:32 the opkg install command also shows an error within okpg Mar 30 18:28:42 _av500_: hehe Mar 30 18:28:59 and how come it doesnt work on my bone :( Mar 30 18:28:59 W1N9Zr0: do you have any idea what could be wrong? Mar 30 18:29:29 I did opkg update opkg upgrade Mar 30 18:29:33 i have no idea how to fix opkg, so the only thing i can suggest is to re-image your sd card Mar 30 18:30:40 I used win32diskimager since my VMware and Vbox did not see SD card when the SD card inserted Mar 30 18:30:44 http://pastebin.com/hN6a4HDA this is what opkg update should output (this is beagleboard-xm though, not bone, but you get the idea) Mar 30 18:31:28 hmmm Mar 30 18:32:27 do you have linux on ur host pc or did u use vmware to load the image? Mar 30 18:32:50 vmware ubuntu Mar 30 18:33:18 how did u connect SD card to the ubuntu? usb adapter? Mar 30 18:33:52 or microSD adapter? Mar 30 18:33:53 i have a transcend usb N-in-1 adapter, yeah Mar 30 18:34:09 my dell monitor sd card reader does not like micro sd cards Mar 30 18:34:41 or adapters, not sure, either way the microsd-usb adapter works Mar 30 18:34:45 _av500_: i am surprised i didn't get more negative comments on my CE post Mar 30 18:35:01 <_av500_> which one? Mar 30 18:35:34 W1N9Zr0: thank you, I will try to load the image again Mar 30 18:35:50 _av500_: https://plus.google.com/u/0/101339419642360856354/posts/9toD7UztxFP Mar 30 18:37:42 How can I install dhcp server on bb-xm? Mar 30 18:38:59 why would you need a dhcp server on the xm? Mar 30 18:39:21 to serve dhcp requests with it? Mar 30 18:39:33 I was just told that to go on intenet from ethernet Mar 30 18:40:05 ok , Im connecting xm to my router and I get no intenet access because I have no IP or anything setup, how can i do so? Mar 30 18:40:16 then you want a dhcp client Mar 30 18:40:34 mru, how do I get that? Mar 30 18:46:13 i found my evil twin on google plus, i'm a little scared. Mar 30 18:50:27 <_av500_> is he that evil? Mar 30 18:51:23 I found my non-evil twin on g+ Mar 30 18:51:44 time to grow that evil twin soulpatch thingy Mar 30 18:54:31 <_av500_> koen: who is that other kooi? Mar 30 18:55:23 if he's non-evil, I think that means you're the evil one Mar 30 18:57:20 what do you guys think: http://www.halloweenexpress.com/chimp-mask-p-4330.html Mar 30 18:59:35 _av500_: johan? that's my dad Mar 30 19:00:12 koen: free at last, free at last? :) Mar 30 19:02:29 * koen is in downtown sf now Mar 30 19:08:12 Guys. does anyone know how to setup my xm to connect through ethernet port? Mar 30 19:10:09 johan++ :-) Mar 30 19:10:46 * LetoThe2nd likes johan. johan made strange christmas gnome give me waffle. Mar 30 19:21:42 keithzz: nope nobody Mar 30 19:21:47 it is unpossible Mar 30 19:22:05 not yet invented Mar 30 19:23:02 :) Im trying to figure out how to install dhcp client like you mentioned previously, i just couldn't find a tutorial anywhere Mar 30 19:23:22 keithzz: but there is thie really neat site, beagleboard.org with a Getting Started section that might help. . . Mar 30 19:23:53 keithzz: how does your PC get its ip number? Mar 30 19:23:59 static or dynamic? Mar 30 19:24:22 my pc gets its ip dynamically Mar 30 19:24:39 and I would like to use tthe same router to connect my xm to internet Mar 30 19:24:40 then so should the BB if plugged into the same switch Mar 30 19:24:47 YES! Mar 30 19:24:55 but when i plug the xm to the same router Mar 30 19:24:58 nothing happens Mar 30 19:25:11 its configuration. try the link above yet? Mar 30 19:25:14 http://pastebin.com/d09P5mWW here is the output Mar 30 19:25:21 of ifconfig -a Mar 30 19:26:41 dmesg | tail after plugging the eth cable in? Mar 30 19:26:47 1 sec Mar 30 19:27:28 usb0 link up Mar 30 19:27:43 addrconf(netdev_change): usb0: link becomes ready Mar 30 19:31:50 djlewis, I also checked the link above, unfortunately that wasn't helpful Mar 30 19:32:39 keithzz: maybe usb0 is set to a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces Mar 30 19:34:58 stippen http://pastebin.com/d09P5mWW here is the output of ifconfig -a Mar 30 19:35:14 shouldn't the static ip be there Mar 30 19:35:15 ? Mar 30 19:37:59 ah, yes, didn't think of that. I guess it would be there Mar 30 19:39:27 stppeng, people here mentioned i need a dhcp client Mar 30 19:39:53 wouldn't you know how to do that? Mar 30 19:44:42 hello, one simple question: Mar 30 19:45:08 udhcpc -i usb0 Mar 30 19:45:13 does that get you an IP? Mar 30 19:45:51 can I use this command to read from 2 sensors "different addresses" put on the same bus of beagleboard: (ioctl(file, I2C_SLAVE, addr) < 0) Mar 30 19:46:59 hiwaeng: er? Mar 30 19:47:19 Can anyone help me with the AptinaCamera MOdule for BEagleBoardXM ?? Mar 30 19:47:59 say pretty please Mar 30 19:48:05 and be less vague Mar 30 19:48:16 @ : What you mean by er? Mar 30 19:48:26 mranostay: pp? like purple plague? ;) Mar 30 19:49:51 since there is a procedure tells how to communicate I2C in beagleboard: see http://elinux.org/Interfacing_with_I2C_Devices Mar 30 19:51:14 anyone got any idea? Mar 30 19:52:13 hiwaeng: er do two calls? Mar 30 19:53:00 mranostay, well, internal 'consulting' completely killed my day..oh well Mar 30 19:53:09 : but how? since I want to read from both sensors Mar 30 19:53:41 hiwaeng: read from one then read from the other Mar 30 19:55:10 : but both sensors have the same register address and values, since they are both from the same manufacturer... but i can have 2 address for each Mar 30 19:56:27 having 2 devices on the bus with the same adress won't work... Mar 30 19:56:41 make one have address a, the other address b Mar 30 19:57:03 mranostay, make a patch this weekend..I sent limor an issue request about how to even visually identify the different breakout boards..hopefully she can shed some light on the madness Mar 30 19:58:23 I have one of them with address 0x68 and the other 0x69.. but internally they have the same register addresses.. so when I read an address , how can I know from which sensor I am reading Mar 30 20:00:02 the ioctl(file, I2C_SLAVE sets which address you're talking to Mar 30 20:00:34 well if you read from an adress, you know what you are reading from. Mar 30 20:00:52 exactly Mar 30 20:03:20 let me explain more: I have a register for reading acceleration of X axis, so how I know from which sensor this value comes from ? Mar 30 20:04:37 hiwaeng: well if you have two sensors with two addresses but you do not know which hardware sensor corresponds, ask your hardware guys. Mar 30 20:08:05 : I have 2 sensors with addresses (0x68 and 0x69) on bus 3 of beagleboard... and I want to communicate with these 2 sensors I mean reading and writing to their registers, with 1 sensor I could do it easily , but with 2 I don't know how to synchronize and differentiate values coming from sensors Mar 30 20:08:49 * LetoThe2nd is totally unable to see the point. Mar 30 20:09:06 its a bus. you talk to one after the other. thats the way it works. Mar 30 20:09:43 hiwaeng - sensor1: ioctl(file, I2C_SLAVE, 0x68) read(...), sensor2: ioctl(file, I2C_SLAVE, 0x69) read(...) Mar 30 20:10:45 I2C_SLAVE sets the DEVICE address you want to talk to, then read/write will access the registers on that device Mar 30 20:11:31 but should I close and then open the bus between reading or it is not needed? Mar 30 20:12:19 I mean : sensor1: ioctl(file, I2C_SLAVE, 0x68) read(...) the close the bus , and then sensor1: ioctl(file, I2C_SLAVE, 0x69) read(...) Mar 30 20:13:14 keithzz: did you see koen's answer? Mar 30 20:13:28 I meant between 2 readings "address 1 and address 2" the bus is not closed Mar 30 20:13:30 ?? Mar 30 20:17:44 i don't think you need to close it, but you could try either way Mar 30 20:27:44 no Mar 30 21:09:38 <_av500_> close the bus, we are leaving town Mar 30 21:10:46 I gots no change! can I get a ride? Mar 30 21:11:46 mdp: go on vacation! Mar 30 21:11:55 * kkeller seconds that Mar 30 21:12:15 mdp - look at watch… beer + 12 minutes Mar 30 21:12:36 I had no chilled homebrew! Mar 30 21:12:45 totally forgot…I blame the SO Mar 30 21:13:11 I wish I had a flash chiller like the hip beer store has Mar 30 21:13:41 you can make a flash chiller with a cooler, cold water, ice, and salt Mar 30 21:13:44 mranostay, I'm still hacking on the driver :) Mar 30 21:13:57 jay6981: guess what it's in now? :) Mar 30 21:14:03 :) Mar 30 21:14:13 I've had this problem before Mar 30 21:14:15 supercooled water ftw Mar 30 21:14:42 it start at 22F above serving temp in the cool corner of my basement where I store it Mar 30 21:14:50 just about there now Mar 30 21:15:16 I wanna start homebrewing Mar 30 21:15:25 as soon as this new job kicks in, I think I'm gonna Mar 30 21:15:48 muriani: the only thing better…is comining it with a beaglebone to monitor everything Mar 30 21:15:57 that's worth 15 minutes on hackaday Mar 30 21:16:05 s/comining/combining/ Mar 30 21:16:33 mdp: or a thermostat :) Mar 30 21:25:14 a very expensive learning thermostat? :) Mar 30 21:31:16 <_av500_> mdp: that patented by the ex-apple guys Mar 30 21:53:44 mdp: dude. That's an idea. Mar 30 21:53:52 although I dunno if I'd use a beaglebone. Mar 30 21:53:58 Seems overkill. Mar 30 21:54:52 a couple of analog and digi's and you are good to go Mar 30 22:05:08 hi there, I'm having a problem building cloud9-image for the beaglebone Mar 30 22:05:32 bitbake goes for a long time, chugging along, and then bombs on ... Mar 30 22:05:54 systemd_git.bb Mar 30 22:06:06