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Apr 01 13:42:37 <ftPeter> Hi, I'm running the Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-eglibc-ipk-v2012.02-core-beaglebone-2012.02.14.img and opkg update; opkg upgrade keeps blowing up in my face. I have tried amount /tmp.  Is there any other tricks I should be trying? Is there another base image that is more useful? I don't particularly want or need the cloud 9 stuff.
Apr 01 14:08:25 <Crofton> mru, do you have anything to do with ne10
Apr 01 14:09:00 <mru> no
Apr 01 14:09:25 <Crofton> thats to bad
Apr 01 14:09:33 <Crofton> any idea if it is any good?
Apr 01 14:14:53 <Crofton> hmm, the code looks "odd"
Apr 01 14:15:17 <Crofton> I suppose I should find an outlet and charge the laptop
Apr 01 14:20:26 <Crofton> This looks useful: http://www.virgin.com/travel/news/richard-branson-and-virgin-holidays-launch-new-currency-1
Apr 01 14:28:05 <kvarley> Is the recommended power supply for the BeagleBoard-xM a 5v DC running at 3amps ?
Apr 01 14:28:35 <dm8tbr> sounds sensible
Apr 01 14:30:25 <kvarley> dm8tbr: Is that the optimum rate? Does ampage really matter? I know that the typical usage of the board is 750mA but then with powered usb devices it'll ramp up quickly. Whats the max ampage that would be considered save to run the board on?
Apr 01 14:31:49 <_av500_> the max is not important
Apr 01 14:32:00 <dm8tbr> ampage? I think you meant to say current...
Apr 01 14:32:11 <_av500_> fmpage
Apr 01 14:32:17 <dm8tbr> ffmpage?
Apr 01 14:32:30 <kvarley> Yeah, heh, sorry I mean is 3amps the recommended current?
Apr 01 14:33:01 <kvarley> I'm looking at a power supply for the xm board that's shipping on monday. Just wanting to make sure I get it right and get a reliable supply. Don't wanna blow the board xD
Apr 01 14:33:29 <dm8tbr> as you said yourself, it will rarely draw more than 1A
Apr 01 14:34:06 <kvarley> How will I tell if the board is trying to draw more than 1A?
Apr 01 14:35:06 <kvarley> I currently have a phone charger that will output 5v at 1A so I was considering just getting a USB to barrel connector cable and using that.
Apr 01 14:37:04 <dm8tbr> if it was cheap, then I wouldn't trust it
Apr 01 14:37:40 <kvarley> It's a genuine htc desire s charger
Apr 01 14:38:01 <kvarley> Has CE and Safety Mark printed on it
Apr 01 14:42:56 <dm8tbr> then it might just-work™
Apr 01 14:43:10 <kvarley> xD ty
Apr 01 14:43:12 <kvarley> for the help
Apr 01 14:44:26 <dm8tbr> just don't hook up USB devices to the ports
Apr 01 15:11:26 <urbov> Is it possible to boot a Linux kernel from an ext3 partition?
Apr 01 15:12:09 <urbov> Or maybe as a workaround, boot a uImage form the FAT32 partition and kexec a kernel from the Ext3 partition?
Apr 01 15:13:28 <dm8tbr> any specific reason?
Apr 01 15:18:36 <urbov> I want to have a fallback image in the FAT32 partition
Apr 01 15:19:05 <urbov> the working system should stay in the Ext3 partition
Apr 01 15:19:26 <urbov> the user should never modifiy the FAT32 partition
Apr 01 15:27:40 <ftPeter> if i do opkg update and it updates the kernel, do i have to do anything special with re-flashing or anything?
Apr 01 15:27:45 <woglinde> urbov when you loaded an extfs-aware uboot you can load it from every extfs partition
Apr 01 15:28:18 <woglinde> the only thing needed is a sane env with some sleeps so mmc init is finished
Apr 01 15:28:58 <urbov> thanks, do you know some links to get started?
Apr 01 15:29:49 <woglinde> o.O
Apr 01 15:30:17 <woglinde> google: "uboot mmc init ext2"
Apr 01 15:30:40 <woglinde> I have enough beer marks on my list for the last month
Apr 01 15:30:49 <woglinde> so I will not do the dirty work for you
Apr 01 15:35:23 <urbov> thank, sometimes a hard-links just saves you hours of googling around
Apr 01 15:46:34 <urbov> woglinde: openmoko seems to have a solution: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD
Apr 01 15:48:17 <woglinde> o.O
Apr 01 15:48:26 <woglinde> thats not really openmoko specific
Apr 01 15:48:53 <woglinde> I have done it a lot of times on my  bb c rev
Apr 01 15:49:00 <woglinde> ups bb rev b4
Apr 01 15:51:08 <urbov> sure, but its a nice howto anyway
Apr 01 15:51:31 <urbov> is there a way to access the user button in uboot
Apr 01 15:51:40 <urbov> to select a specific kernel in the bootloader
Apr 01 15:56:49 <_av500_> yes
Apr 01 16:08:52 <nobody_> Hello. Have anyone tried to access internal registers of I2C device (read/write)? I have got polulu L3G4200D gyro and LSM303DLH accelerometer carrier. From what is written here: http://elinux.org/Interfacing_with_I2C_Devices, for writing to specyfic register I have to write data containing addres of this register and than write register data. Can anyone ensure me if I understand this right ?
Apr 01 16:11:38 <urbov> _av500_: how?
Apr 01 16:13:42 <woglinde> nobody_ other i2c devices arenot example enough?
Apr 01 16:19:21 <jacekowski> nobody_: it's standard i2c stuff
Apr 01 16:19:58 <jacekowski> nobody_: if you are on linux there are ioctls for that
Apr 01 16:20:03 <nobody_> @wogline which  other i2c devices ?! That, what i have googled have only one register to access.
Apr 01 16:20:32 <jacekowski> you don't understand i2c
Apr 01 16:20:46 <jacekowski> data is divided into registers
Apr 01 16:21:05 <jacekowski> each i2c has one or more registers you can read/write to
Apr 01 16:21:34 <jacekowski> all you have to do from your program is do 2 ioctls to read stuff
Apr 01 16:25:34 <nobody_> on that page is written .. int addr = 0b00101001; // The I2C address of the ADC and then as You say ioctl .. if (ioctl(file,I2C_SLAVE,addr) < 0). Integer addr is addres of slave I2C device, not register internal register of this device
Apr 01 17:27:14 <keithzz> HI, I have ansgrom on my xm, and now I can ping the boad from my host pc, but when i type ftp "ipaddress of board"  I get connection refused
Apr 01 17:27:26 <keithzz> do i need to enable ftp on my xm somehow?
Apr 01 17:32:56 <mranostay> heh install an ftp server on the board?
Apr 01 17:33:34 <keithzz> mranostay: I m very new to this.
Apr 01 17:33:41 <keithzz> would you tell me how i can do that?
Apr 01 17:34:28 <keithzz> I think I have an SSH server, and I thoguht ftp comes with it
Apr 01 17:34:47 <keithzz> but i don't know how i can start it
Apr 01 17:39:09 <OrlandoT> is the i2ctools package available for BeagleBone?
Apr 01 17:40:55 <OrlandoT> never mind it was under i2c-tools on opkg
Apr 01 17:45:31 <Subhadra> hello I am using a REV C BBxM with angstrom image and getting garbage characters in gtktrem console. pl help
Apr 01 17:46:06 <keithzz> check baud rate
Apr 01 17:46:59 <Subhadra> hello I am using a REV C BBxM with angstrom image and getting garbage characters in gtktrem console. pl help
Apr 01 17:51:07 <kiilo> hi anyone got cloud9 installed on a ubuntu oneiric beaglebone?
Apr 01 17:51:48 <kiilo> i get segmentation faults and it crashes of course
Apr 01 17:52:19 <keithzz> Hi I have dropbear installed, but FTP to the device doesn't work..Any suggestions?
Apr 01 17:53:52 <kiilo> cant compile o3
Apr 01 17:53:54 <kiilo> Build failed:  -> task failed (err #1):
Apr 01 17:53:56 <kiilo> 	{task: cxx sh_node.cc -> sh_node_1.o
Apr 01 17:57:18 <W1N9Zr0> keithzz - either use scp (winscp on windows), or search for an ftpd in opkg and install one
Apr 01 17:58:25 <kiilo> anyone got cloud9 running on ubuntu oneiric beaglebone?
Apr 01 17:58:26 <keithzz> Thanks, I found a package with extention .ipk, do you know how to isntall it on ansgrtrom, what the command?
Apr 01 17:58:33 <keithzz> assuming I have internet connectin ofcourse
Apr 01 17:59:46 <W1N9Zr0> read how to use opkg: http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/techref/opkg
Apr 01 18:27:30 <smp4488> actually, it looks like uboot supports usb devices
Apr 01 18:31:29 <keithzz> Hi I downloaded and install gftp on my xm, how can i start the ftp server? if I type gftp in shell i get gftp:not found, please help
Apr 01 18:34:49 <W1N9Zr0> gftp is a client, not a server
Apr 01 18:35:21 <W1N9Zr0> what do you need an ftp server for? just use scp
Apr 01 18:35:40 <keithzz> I would like to transfer files from host to xm
Apr 01 18:35:46 <W1N9Zr0> scp will do that
Apr 01 18:35:50 <keithzz> can you please let me know of a ftp server i can use?
Apr 01 18:35:59 <keithzz> ah ok let me google scp
Apr 01 18:36:01 <smp4488> lightftpd
Apr 01 18:37:20 <kiilo> try to compile o3 for cloud9 IDE on ubuntu oneiric on beaglebone and run into pesky errors http://pastebin.com/gnGKV5JM
Apr 01 18:37:29 <kiilo> anyone?
Apr 01 18:38:29 <kiilo> dont know where is the ominous option "-msse2" set?
Apr 01 18:38:38 <jay6981> kiilo: your clue is on line 14
Apr 01 18:39:03 <kiilo> yes ut where is this set ?
Apr 01 18:39:41 <jay6981> why does your toolchain not support sse2?
Apr 01 18:39:55 <kiilo> its an arm7l maybe?
Apr 01 18:40:00 <jay6981> that'd do it
Apr 01 18:40:31 <kiilo> idea to implement?
Apr 01 18:40:57 <jay6981> let the build system know you're compiling on arm instead of x86 somehow
Apr 01 18:41:12 <kiilo> howto?
Apr 01 18:41:26 <jay6981> you'd probably have to ask the authors that
Apr 01 18:42:03 <kiilo> they included the binaries even for linux32/64 and darwin
Apr 01 18:42:21 <kiilo> but not arm7
Apr 01 18:42:29 <jay6981> maybe arm is not supported for that package
Apr 01 18:42:41 <kiilo> it is it runs on angstroem
Apr 01 18:42:59 <kiilo> but they have their own obfudscated build system
Apr 01 18:43:09 <jay6981> angstrom you mean?
Apr 01 18:43:14 <kiilo> yep
Apr 01 18:43:26 <jay6981> you could look through the OE recipe to figure out what they do to build it
Apr 01 18:43:51 <kiilo> obfuscated they do it completly different looked that allready
Apr 01 18:44:53 <kiilo> it is magic up to now to get cloud9 running on ubuntu beaglebone
Apr 01 18:49:16 <kiilo> found it in o3/wscript
Apr 01 18:59:22 <Subhadra> hello I am using a REV C BBxM with angstrom image and getting garbage characters in gtktrem console. pl help
Apr 01 19:08:11 <_av500_> check your serial
Apr 01 19:20:34 <kiilo> yep works now ;-)
Apr 01 21:36:56 * koen tries to locate a uSD -> adapter
Apr 01 21:45:50 <mru> a what?
Apr 01 21:47:38 <jannau> mím
Apr 01 21:48:02 <jannau> a micro SD to SD adapter
Apr 01 21:48:18 <mru> well, I guess that, but that's not what he said
Apr 01 21:48:28 <mru> or at least it's not what my irc client says he said
Apr 01 21:49:54 <mru> koen: you could build a uSD reader from an early xm with nand flash
Apr 01 21:49:56 <koen> yeah, I missed the 'SD" part
Apr 01 21:50:10 <jannau> yeah, looks like he missed ' SD'
Apr 01 21:50:14 <koen> mru: I only have a beaglebone with me
Apr 01 21:50:28 * koen is loading uImage over kermit now
Apr 01 21:50:51 <koen> the patch to make ext2 faster in uboot turns out to be filling the ram with zeroes
Apr 01 21:51:06 <koen> I guess that's why it is so fast :)
Apr 01 21:51:21 <mru> :)
Apr 01 21:51:40 * koen is made of fail this trip
Apr 01 21:52:08 <OrlandoT> can anybody do a lsmod on their beaglebone for me please? It seems like my device is not loading all the modules that it should. The beaglebone is not being mounted with the fat partition and I do not see any storage module loaded when I do a lsmod
Apr 01 21:52:29 <koen> it should list g_mass_storage
Apr 01 21:52:40 <OrlandoT> thank you koen
Apr 01 21:52:49 <OrlandoT> it sure is not listing that module
Apr 01 21:53:07 <OrlandoT> i'll have to figure out what I screwed up this time
Apr 01 21:56:15 <OrlandoT> I am able to insmod it by hand but still does not show up on my pc as a storage device
Apr 01 21:57:18 <koen> iit needs params
Apr 01 21:57:37 <koen> /sbin/modprobe g_mass_storage file=/dev/mmcblk0p1 cdrom=0 stall=0 removable=1 nofua=1
Apr 01 21:59:57 <OrlandoT> still nothing not even with that command
Apr 01 22:00:12 <OrlandoT> I think I will just wipe it and try to put everything back
Apr 01 22:49:14 <MarkSoric> Hello beagle people! I have a question, that will undoubtedly, over the next month, lead to more! My kids and I have been inspired to build a near-space balloon - I think it's a great project for them and a fun tinker-project for me between exams. My first question is this: Is beagle board a good platform for me to send up with said balloon to record all kinds of weather data?
Apr 01 22:49:29 <MarkSoric> Sorry if that's a naive question - I have no experience whatsoever :D
Apr 01 22:50:01 <keithzz> ssh: connect to host "xm ip address" port 22: Connection refused, anyone know why...This was working 1 hour before
Apr 01 23:03:19 <mru> MarkSoric: http://www.timzaman.nl/?p=1884
Apr 01 23:04:52 <mru> 1st google hit for "beagleboard balloon"
Apr 01 23:11:49 <russell--> koen: let's not judge, zeros are bits too!
Apr 01 23:12:48 <mru> if you cut a zero in half, you get two ones (slightly bent, but still clearly ones)
Apr 01 23:13:34 <MarkSoric> mru: I saw that as well - just wondering on what the differences between using arduino vs beagle board would be...
Apr 01 23:14:11 <mru> MarkSoric: I don't think either of them is rated for such environments
Apr 01 23:14:47 <MarkSoric> Based on temp/pressure, eh? I think temp is ok - heating packs. Worried about the pressure.
Apr 01 23:14:57 <mru> why would pressure matter?
Apr 01 23:15:01 <russell--> MarkSoric: weight is probably a factor to consider
Apr 01 23:15:05 <mru> it doesn't run on steam
Apr 01 23:15:11 <russell--> and what you want to record
Apr 01 23:15:20 <mru> temperature is more of a worry
Apr 01 23:15:54 <MarkSoric> russell--: I'd like to get temperature and pressure readings as well as track movements via gps. I say pressure only for the camera I want to send up.
Apr 01 23:16:17 <MarkSoric> At this point, I'm just sort of spitballing to see what my options are
Apr 01 23:17:03 <jay69811> tons of options
Apr 01 23:17:17 <russell--> do you want live data back?
Apr 01 23:17:31 <russell--> or just record
Apr 01 23:17:41 <russell--> and store or whatever
Apr 01 23:18:15 <russell--> your gps will stop functioning above a certain altitude iirc
Apr 01 23:18:44 <mru> or at least become less accurate
Apr 01 23:19:39 <jay69811> without atmosphere the silicon could have temperature gradient issues
Apr 01 23:21:12 <mru> heat transfer efficiency to the air obviously drops with pressure
Apr 01 23:21:43 <mru> but the beagle doesn't run even warm at normal pressure and temperature
Apr 01 23:22:05 <mru> so with the low ambient temps up there, it ought to still work, at least if you put a heatsink on it
Apr 01 23:23:14 <russell--> here are some random interwebians referring to the gps issues: http://diydrones.com/forum/topics/removing-gps-altitude-and
Apr 01 23:28:56 <MarkSoric> Hmmm.. I'm in for a fair bit of reading it seems - with Community gone for a bit, I'll have some time, too! :D I'd like live data back, ideally, but as long as I can track gps where it comes back down, I'm fine - recording is more than ok.
Apr 02 02:33:04 <koen> Linux beagleboneA3-0296 3.2.13 #1 Sun Apr 1 12:50:41 CEST 2012 armv7l GNU/Linux
Apr 02 02:33:06 <koen> there we go
Apr 02 02:35:42 <juancamilo> hello
Apr 02 02:37:12 <juancamilo> does anyone know if ethernet over the usb otg works with ubuntu precise?
Apr 02 02:47:15 <juancamilo> anyone?
Apr 02 02:56:12 <Patrick1238> Hi, I would like to ask the guide to install TP-Link Wireless Adapter TL-WN723N on Beagleboard-xM Angstrom..
Apr 02 02:57:05 <Patrick1238> I have this wiresless adapter but it couldn't work. The USB port could detect it but couldn't load up.. I guess it is due to the lack of driver. But I have absolutely no idea how to install it
Apr 02 02:57:15 <Patrick1238> Can Anyone help me with it? Thanks alot!
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