**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 04 02:59:59 2012 Apr 04 03:25:50 history Apr 04 04:26:44 hi there Apr 04 05:17:10 hrmm Apr 04 05:17:31 so to do a context switch Apr 04 05:18:09 i need to save: r0-r15, the CPSR, VFP registers, NEON registers Apr 04 05:18:13 anything else? Apr 04 05:18:41 (well, it's the SPSR by the time we save it) Apr 04 06:06:18 do anybody have amsdk start here script Apr 04 06:22:41 ticks: er? Apr 04 06:25:14 mranostay: injoyed the clanking, I think. time for bed Apr 04 06:26:21 TMI! Apr 04 06:27:33 FIQ Apr 04 06:33:51 oh Apr 04 06:34:03 do neon and vfp share registers? Apr 04 06:35:23 <_av500_> yes Apr 04 06:35:35 <_av500_> its a wild marriage Apr 04 06:35:42 <_av500_> or a green card scam Apr 04 06:36:46 wait, what? Apr 04 06:36:54 :P Apr 04 06:37:24 so then if I'm storing the extension registers (for a context switch), should I read them from NEON or from VFP? Apr 04 06:38:30 you can simply do vld and vst Apr 04 06:40:50 if you intended do to floating point calculation ,do something like vld.f32 or vld.f64....same for store Apr 04 06:43:24 ah Apr 04 06:44:57 so VSTM r0!, {q0-q15} would do the trick to save it? Apr 04 06:45:21 *VSTMIA Apr 04 06:51:44 rule no 3.try and find out Apr 04 06:57:51 http://pastebin.com/CRr5rSpk yay, think I've done the saving state now Apr 04 07:04:08 awesome-o Apr 04 08:33:35 hmm, disabling "reset unused clocks" with 3.3. helps a bit, now the kernel seems to boot somewhat more. Apr 04 08:34:25 I wonder if someone actually tests new kernel versions with a beagleboard ;) Apr 04 08:40:50 [ 0.051727] omap_hwmod: usbtll_fck: missing clockdomain for usbtll_fck. Apr 04 08:41:26 [ 0.096862] usbhs_omap: alias fck already exists Apr 04 08:41:29 that might be the reason that ehci doesn't work Apr 04 08:41:55 and: [ 0.147796] BUG: Bad page state in process rcu_kthread pfn:8f0c4 Apr 04 08:44:22 * ynezz hands "omap is fucked" clubcard to aholler Apr 04 08:44:39 i have one already Apr 04 08:44:59 this one is gold! Apr 04 08:45:20 mine is 2a old Apr 04 08:45:41 aholler: mru pasted the same error already Apr 04 08:45:55 yes, but I was unable to come that far Apr 04 08:46:22 but don't reseting unused clocks brought me there too Apr 04 08:47:09 so hunting the usb-clock ;) Apr 04 08:57:12 maybe I could sell an "how to build an automatic minimal beagleborg-linux-kernel-tester" to ti ;) Apr 04 08:59:05 can any pls provide some pointers towards using interrupt based gpio on beaglebone & nodejs Apr 04 08:59:35 yesterday I've read an article about the m0+, I wonder when 0.9v-devices will come ;) Apr 04 09:01:44 armuinos Apr 04 09:04:13 powered through the livetime by a coin-cell. Apr 04 09:19:19 hi.. i am trying to build gstreamer-ti on angstrom. I am getting the fololowing error http://pastebin.com/mtkQWuWR Apr 04 09:20:23 I have copied the setup files of cgt,bios and xdctools in downloads folder but still i am getting the same error Apr 04 09:21:22 do_fetch soft of implies it could download the source tarball or whatever Apr 04 09:21:31 could *not* Apr 04 09:28:09 Does the Angstrom test image for the BeagleBoard-xM come with the NEON gpu video decoding drivers installed? Apr 04 09:29:50 anand_: Fetcher failure for URL: 'http://install.source.dir.local/ti_cgt_c6000_7.2.7_setup_linux_x86.bin;name=cgt6xbin'. Unable to fetch URL from any source. Apr 04 09:30:08 anand_: as far as I know, you need to download the cgtools yourself Apr 04 09:30:14 since its behind click-thru eula Apr 04 09:30:25 and place it somewhere Apr 04 09:30:43 I did that once, but I forgot it all Apr 04 09:32:59 av500 : ok i will try that Apr 04 09:39:45 aholler: I have CONFIG_OMAP_RESET_CLOCKS=y Apr 04 09:47:40 hmm, anyway, i need that clock. ;) Apr 04 10:02:42 usbtll_fck doesn't have clkdm_name defined Apr 04 10:05:28 hmpf, it's annoying to browse through the every change foo Apr 04 10:05:44 s/change/changing/ Apr 04 10:22:39 I just asumme omap3 is eol ;) Apr 04 10:22:56 mainline o3 is Apr 04 10:23:08 so I need to get a rpi Apr 04 10:23:34 bsol (before start of life) ;) Apr 04 10:23:36 everybody needs one Apr 04 10:23:42 it cures cancer Apr 04 10:26:12 hmm, everytime I boot Iget something new. now I have a self-healing kernel: [ 0.140686] Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed! Apr 04 10:29:46 at least the kernel is now happy to have a clockdomain for usbtll_fck ;) Apr 04 10:35:13 but it's not funny to make stupid patches with half knowledge. Apr 04 10:38:33 btw, I've just seen that comment: /* for OMAP3 , the clk set paretn fails */ Apr 04 10:38:59 typical parenting fail Apr 04 10:39:04 and they always blame the kids Apr 04 10:41:54 so I think I'm going to do other things Apr 04 10:42:18 prepare easter eggs Apr 04 10:42:39 good idea, I build an easter-eggs-painter with my lego nxt Apr 04 10:43:30 or playing with the launchpad or something similiar time-wasting stuff ;) Apr 04 10:45:16 maybe buying a tegra3 to have something else to rant about ; Apr 04 10:49:21 aholler: if tegra2 is enough I can recommend LG for ranting Apr 04 10:50:15 na, thats eol too Apr 04 10:52:22 but the kernel patch for device has nearly unlimited ranting potential Apr 04 10:52:29 hmm, i know what to do, I will read about that usb-chip which does the msp-emu on the launchpad. ;) Apr 04 10:52:35 vendor kernel is vendor.... Apr 04 10:53:15 aholler: the TUSB3410? Apr 04 10:53:32 http://www.flickr.com/photos/av500/4941371504/ Apr 04 10:53:43 (never used it) Apr 04 10:53:43 not sure which one that is, have to look into the documentation Apr 04 10:54:12 it's kind of an FTD-TI Apr 04 10:55:08 a usb-client-device for 5€ would be a nice playground Apr 04 10:56:31 av500: I disagree but I haven't looked at archos kernels in detail. I have rarely seen so much atrocities as in the LG kernel Apr 04 10:57:16 highlight from yesterday is reusing the power gpio for the wlan sdio as card detect gpio Apr 04 10:57:34 thats a hw issue, no? Apr 04 10:57:50 jannau: there is the occasional gem, like knowing better how to write a hdd driver... ;) Apr 04 10:58:26 dm8tbr: unhappy? Apr 04 10:59:07 av500: about? Apr 04 10:59:37 no really a hw problem, mmc subsystem has a callback interface for card detect Apr 04 10:59:40 one should keep in mind though, that most of those franken-kernels are one-off Apr 04 11:00:43 they are not written to win beautiful code contests, but to ship hardware before an arbitrary deadline set by management. Apr 04 11:01:33 av500: ti lists the TI TUSB3410 UART EVM with $99, so I prefer the launchpad ;) Apr 04 11:01:47 instead they used an interrupt on the output power gpio and removed the code which sets the card detect gpio up as input Apr 04 11:05:10 dm8tbr: depends on how strongly you define one-off. there it does need to win beaty contests but it should be better than works by pure luck and probably introduces subtle bugs if you plan to support it after shipping Apr 04 11:06:59 jannau: some sadly define one-off as in. don't touch code after it has shipped. but yes I see your point. Some of those weird things may be due to hardware problems (often even no longer existing hw problems, but leftovers from early prototypes) Apr 04 11:12:18 this kernel patch in question mentions 11 different hw revisions, 7 of them are probably prototypes Apr 04 11:14:44 :) Apr 04 11:14:48 and 12 will be the last Apr 04 11:15:14 aholler: or cortex-m3 (it's similar to a8) :) Apr 04 11:15:26 m3 is _not_ similar to a8 Apr 04 11:15:37 it's arm, so what Apr 04 11:15:46 we just have to accept reality, hw comes out without usable sw, and the sw is just getting usable when the hw is eol. Apr 04 11:16:07 why do we have to accept that? Apr 04 11:16:34 that helps do keep economics going Apr 04 11:17:49 * ynezz just've placed order for lpc1766stk aka another red dust collecting device :) Apr 04 11:18:11 buy something, be frustrated a year, by the next thing with hopes everything is fixed. so at least you know how to spend the money Apr 04 11:18:20 ;) Apr 04 11:18:23 exactly Apr 04 11:18:39 but I'm not frustrated at all Apr 04 11:19:13 you seems quite a lot lately :p Apr 04 11:19:32 just avoid using usb on ti devices Apr 04 11:19:54 msp430 with usb is another example :p Apr 04 11:21:26 ok, so i'm getting another atmega 32u4 ;) Apr 04 11:22:20 8bit, no arm, hm Apr 04 11:22:33 but it works Apr 04 11:23:45 no errata, hm Apr 04 11:23:59 or it's just password protected? :p Apr 04 11:24:34 jannau: we have more than 11 hw configs out there for gen9 :) Apr 04 11:24:45 aholler: 99$? no idea, mine was free Apr 04 11:25:02 I've just looked at ti Apr 04 11:31:56 ynezz: no wonder you never get frustrated when your stuff is just collecting dust Apr 04 11:34:14 and without lows no highs Apr 04 11:35:55 but I'm far from beeing frustrated, I just like to annoy you Apr 04 12:50:18 windows will not recognise my beagle as plugged into the ethernet unless I do a reboot on the beagle then it works fine.. ifdown eth0 ifup eth0 doesnt do anything.. Apr 04 12:50:30 any idea what the cause might be and how to fix? Apr 04 12:51:02 which beagle? plugged how? recognise how? Apr 04 12:54:04 beaglebone.. plugged into windows computer (I have 2 ethernet cards.. one is sharing net with beagle) if i watch the adapters in control panel nothing happens if I have booted up without the ethernet plugged into the bealge.. like if I plug it in and run commands like ifupeth0 windows just shows an inactive ethernet connection Apr 04 12:54:19 however if I reboot the beagle with ethernet plugged in, windows sees it and connects Apr 04 12:54:52 mru: I guess windows "knew it not" Apr 04 12:56:17 I would rather not have to hard reboot the beagle every time i wanna connect Apr 04 12:57:26 then trace the startup scripts and figure out what they do that ifup does not Apr 04 13:01:19 mru: is that just watching when I do a shutdown -r now anything I should be watching for? Apr 04 13:01:29 read the scripts Apr 04 13:01:46 and/or monitor the ethernet traffic and see what it's doing Apr 04 13:02:49 thanks 8==D ~~ XD Apr 04 13:07:09 anyone faced error -84 transferring data with emmc.full log: http://pastebin.com/sYt1DEAw Apr 04 13:51:48 hello Everyone! Apr 04 13:51:50 I want to do a so simple thing: I plug a wire into a gpio pin, and another one into another pin. I need a script to check if the wires meets, so they makes shortcircuit. Is it possible without any other electronic part? Apr 04 14:38:36 "Please enter the description of the Trip Purpose" Apr 04 14:40:07 "Metal" Apr 04 14:40:09 flying high Apr 04 14:41:35 put: "collecting more frequent traveller miles" Apr 04 14:42:25 testing the pressure sensor of my ez430-chronos Apr 04 14:42:42 just read the ti-deal ;) Apr 04 14:45:57 tidealextreme.com Apr 04 14:47:17 av500: that's the purpose Apr 04 14:47:25 it's asking for the description of the purpose Apr 04 14:47:44 which is of course "attend FooCon" Apr 04 14:52:01 acquire more t-shirts Apr 04 14:53:56 somebody have try build gstremer and know what mean this message no tools dir set in GStreamer pkg-config file, core upgrade needed. Apr 04 14:53:56 ? Apr 04 15:10:46 grabbed a random beagle with sd inside and lo and behold there is ubuntu onit? Apr 04 15:10:54 * av500 must have been drunk Apr 04 15:11:01 or sleephacking Apr 04 15:13:30 hrhrhr Apr 04 15:13:53 and I wondered for a split second why there are no serial kernel logs :) Apr 04 15:14:49 av500 vs. ubuntu: round 1, fight. Apr 04 15:15:11 its a 2.6.35 kernel ubuntu Apr 04 15:15:24 LetoThe2nd: too late, ubu has left the sdcard Apr 04 15:20:26 * av500 loves sdcards Apr 04 15:20:47 doing rm -rf * on the card ended up in EXT3-fs error (device sdf2): htree_dirblock_to_tree: bad entry in directory #99023: rec_len % 4 != 0 - offset=0, inode=1664479623, rec_len=58262, name_len=50 Apr 04 15:23:03 av500: mkfs.ext3 to the rescue Apr 04 15:23:10 as we speak Apr 04 15:32:57 damn, systemd Apr 04 15:33:00 Any experience with LI-5M03 camera for BeagleBoard???? Apr 04 15:33:04 it did not boot in 0.8s Apr 04 15:33:10 koen: ^^^ I want my money back!!! Apr 04 15:34:00 hallo Apr 04 15:34:03 hello Apr 04 15:34:12 is anyone here ? Apr 04 15:34:22 no Apr 04 15:34:26 ..here...... here..... here... Apr 04 15:34:31 hear hear Apr 04 15:34:49 hear me, hear me? Apr 04 15:34:59 roger, over Apr 04 15:35:05 i saw so many people here ,but silent Apr 04 15:35:09 you have to bring us a shrubbery! Apr 04 15:35:35 plantaprk: you would prefer 180 people all talking at the same time? Apr 04 15:35:43 watch parliament Apr 04 15:35:59 av500: +1 :D Apr 04 15:36:18 none was talking Apr 04 15:36:27 and? Apr 04 15:36:34 Ni! Apr 04 15:36:37 ok,the topic tonight? Apr 04 15:37:08 tectonic shift and what you can do to help Apr 04 15:37:12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTQfGd3G6dg Apr 04 15:37:41 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMkrJOOTjj4 Apr 04 15:37:42 Anyone experienced with LI-5M03 camera for BeagleBoard???? Apr 04 15:37:53 why, is it fun? Apr 04 15:38:17 ninja block,anyone heared before? Apr 04 15:38:25 Ni! Apr 04 15:38:58 anyone in SF right now? Apr 04 15:39:06 besides koen Apr 04 15:39:08 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kz7_g5cU6w Apr 04 15:39:19 mranostay: stop trolling Apr 04 15:39:34 mranostay: define now Apr 04 15:39:55 av500: how is that trolling? Apr 04 15:40:09 mranostay: using the word "anyone" Apr 04 15:43:00 * mranostay looks like he is working since his boss is sitting across from him Apr 04 15:43:25 * av500 only sees his boss in irc Apr 04 15:43:34 mranostay: he also is in #beagle? ;) Apr 04 15:43:41 and boss got no op Apr 04 15:43:54 av500: your boss sits across the channel from me Apr 04 15:43:56 LetoThe2nd: irc yes this channel no Apr 04 15:44:05 mranostay: hrhr Apr 04 15:54:39 koen: what track are you doing today? Apr 04 15:54:51 boring yocto er i mean yocto :) Apr 04 15:55:35 yocto yocto is yocto Apr 04 15:55:52 yoghurt? Apr 04 15:56:02 yochurd Apr 04 15:56:09 it's a fork Apr 04 15:56:12 yocturd Apr 04 15:56:14 or rather a spoon Apr 04 15:56:20 openembedded angstrom Apr 04 15:56:26 av500: yocHURD? Apr 04 15:56:30 armstrong :) Apr 04 15:56:52 angst-ROM Apr 04 15:57:03 it is now free OpenYocto.net Apr 04 15:57:14 av500: you are androidized Apr 04 15:57:23 can any of you guys recommend a good chat channel for someone new to freenode? Apr 04 15:57:34 #test Apr 04 15:57:34 aholler: yes, I saw pfefferz enter and went into fanboi mode Apr 04 15:58:07 #alt.bizarre Apr 04 15:58:14 #Snappleseed Apr 04 15:58:24 #botwar Apr 04 15:58:47 i think we can never work for Intel now :) Apr 04 15:58:48 I wonder why they closed down #netbsd-furries Apr 04 15:59:03 or on second thoughts, I'd probably rather not know Apr 04 15:59:22 mranostay: of course we can Apr 04 15:59:43 yes we can Apr 04 16:01:13 mru: wtf is #netbsd-furries and do i want to know? Apr 04 16:01:33 mranostay: there used to be an irc channel by that name Apr 04 16:02:05 I only know about it because the only person ever to be banned from #alpha was also in that channel Apr 04 16:02:19 mru: was it furry fetish + netbsd users? Apr 04 16:02:38 quite possibly Apr 04 16:02:47 I am so glad I have "alpha" on my notification list Apr 04 16:02:49 the guy we banned did have a furry fetish Apr 04 16:02:53 god software people are weird Apr 04 16:03:07 he kept posting links to such pictures at least Apr 04 16:03:23 mru: haha: https://www.google.com/search?q=%23netbsd-furries+log Apr 04 16:03:41 what happen to him as a kid i wonder Apr 04 16:06:33 and #alpha? who uses alpha? Apr 04 16:06:51 greek people Apr 04 16:10:27 hmm, I managed to get my beagle up and running by using the demo page and some googling Apr 04 16:10:34 should I write a blog post or a wiki? Apr 04 16:11:06 av500: nah make boris cite your irc logs. Apr 04 16:12:14 jkridner_: ^^^^^^^^^^ Apr 04 16:12:29 both, and don't forget to notify the ml and update elinux.org Apr 04 16:12:51 av500: commit it to the ml Apr 04 16:12:58 yes Apr 04 16:30:01 hmm, looks like no more random MAC address Apr 04 16:30:05 koen: ^^ thanks Apr 04 16:42:40 Hi, can somebody explain me what does mem boot arguments mean ? for example 'mem=99M@0x80000000 mem=128M@0x88000000' Does it mean that linux will be on physical adress 0x88000000 and higher ? Apr 04 16:43:00 close Apr 04 16:43:18 it will use 99M starting from 0x80000000 and 128M starting at 0x88000000 Apr 04 16:44:17 ah thx Apr 04 16:44:23 helpful av500. should be a new meme Apr 04 16:44:42 av500: petrolom: and I've a question related!! should I change this addresses if I want to use DSP on my BBxm? [ running Ubuntu ] Apr 04 16:46:31 nkh1: ubuntu does not use dsplink Apr 04 16:46:47 so you dont need to reserve memory from linux afaik Apr 04 16:46:54 since bridge uses the dsp mmu or so Apr 04 16:46:56 hmm Apr 04 16:47:15 all that o3 stuff, hard to remember Apr 04 16:47:39 you got it. .;) it allocates a fixed amount on bootup, so you can't change it without a recompile.. Apr 04 16:48:02 av500: hmm, so I can easily crosscompile an app just like a helloword wit ti_cgt and run it on ubuntu? Apr 04 16:48:17 I did not say that Apr 04 16:48:39 sneaking again, are we? Apr 04 16:48:43 nkh1, for something like that, you really need to use angstrom's kernel which ues dsplink.. Apr 04 16:48:47 av500: yes sorry , I really mixed up :| Apr 04 16:49:09 yes, stuff like C6run is on dsplink Apr 04 16:49:21 rcn-ee: Oh! you mean it's completely impossible on ubuntu ? :| Apr 04 16:49:25 totally Apr 04 16:49:40 you would need to change the texture of the universe Apr 04 16:49:47 av500: hmm, thanks a lot ! Apr 04 16:49:53 :)) Apr 04 16:49:58 of course its not impossible Apr 04 16:49:58 no.. it's possible. just use angstrom's kernel/modules on ubuntu (you'll also need to install a few angstrom packages too..) Apr 04 16:51:00 rcn-ee: aha, so it should be possible to compile an ubuntu kernel which supports these stuff? (angstrom's kernel/modules) Apr 04 16:53:12 mranostay: check your serial Apr 04 16:53:21 rcn-ee: is there any manual or how to on that? I really mixed up these DSP things, not clear about what should exactly happen to run an app on dsp, which modules are needed and so on! Apr 04 16:53:46 av500: ? Apr 04 16:54:04 nkh1: no manual Apr 04 16:54:17 av500: even a blog post!?:D Apr 04 16:54:20 well, actually there is that hilarious DSP for dummies book that TI had printed Apr 04 16:54:49 nkh1, there's really two "dsp" systems.. "dspbridge" which is really only used by nokia guys (mer/etc) that's the one i have setup for ubuntu.. (it sometimes works for video playback..) dsplink was more a ti only thing.. Apr 04 16:55:11 actually, both were used by us :) Apr 04 16:55:29 and bridge was also used by OMAP3 android products Apr 04 16:55:35 hmm Apr 04 16:55:38 but going forward, syslink (update of dsplink) is heading to mainline as 'rpm' something... so that might also fix dsplink going forward.. Apr 04 16:55:51 lost yet? ;) Apr 04 16:55:54 rcn-ee: if they ever backport it to omap3 Apr 04 16:56:02 and port CE on top of it Apr 04 16:56:08 no,not as much as I was !:S Apr 04 16:56:17 :D* Apr 04 16:56:37 yeah, a 3rd party would probally have to do that... Apr 04 16:56:49 nkh1: if you use angstrom, it has dsplink/CE examples atc Apr 04 16:56:50 etc Apr 04 16:57:02 so you can play with it, either with pure dsplink stuff or CE on top of that Apr 04 16:57:17 with dspbridge, basically you have a few codecs that gst can use Apr 04 16:57:26 but 0 help on coding your own stuff on the DSP Apr 04 16:57:55 since the dsp side of bridge-foo is not open source Apr 04 16:57:58 av500: I have it, seems I should switch to angstrom , or go for using dsplink on ubuntu , right? Apr 04 16:58:13 if you are after dsp, go angstrom Apr 04 16:59:14 av500: I just thought that ubuntu is better if we want to reach a commercial project Apr 04 16:59:37 actually it's just our final engineering project Apr 04 16:59:54 so? Apr 04 17:00:03 after this we should use openCV with DSP Apr 04 17:00:20 and the target stuff will be used in cars Apr 04 17:00:46 then i think it's better to work on ubuntu which is more popular Apr 04 17:01:01 maybe i'm wrong Apr 04 17:01:07 am i? Apr 04 17:01:08 :-? Apr 04 17:01:16 nkh1: http://gendocs.ru/v231/?cc=1&view=pdf Apr 04 17:02:13 * nkh le f*** disconnections, F*** pidgin! Apr 04 17:02:15 sorry Apr 04 17:06:07 SH*** Apr 04 17:06:11 Disconnected Apr 04 17:06:16 is it really pidgin's fault? Apr 04 17:06:49 jay6981: no not really, but i can just blame pidgin now, not the government :D Apr 04 17:07:11 no logs? :-/ Apr 04 17:07:37 av500: sorry , I was asking that: will i have the same power in using DSP as in angstrom? Apr 04 17:08:10 the dsp is the same Apr 04 17:08:23 how good dsplink stuff work with ubuntu I dont know Apr 04 17:08:33 why you insist on it, I dont know either Apr 04 17:09:02 av500: aha, ok, i'll try angstrom Apr 04 17:09:39 I remmember many times ago I tried it and I had problems with running c6run examples Apr 04 17:10:17 was long ago, can't remmember exatly what, I think the problem was with cmemk or something Apr 04 17:10:33 i'll give it a try soon Apr 04 17:10:38 cmem is a nuisance, but rarely a problem Apr 04 17:10:59 :) Apr 04 17:13:14 av500: btw another question! does OpenCV run with DSP on ubuntu? I don't know what exactly should run on DSP but these things are all to reach the point that we can compile an app using openCV and use the DSP to run it! Apr 04 17:13:44 opencv knows nothing about the omap3 dsp Apr 04 17:13:49 unless you teach it Apr 04 17:13:57 and that is unrelated to ubuntu Apr 04 17:14:30 av500: hmm, yes, I reached the first point: dsplink Apr 04 17:14:48 achievement unlocked Apr 04 17:14:52 here's a badge Apr 04 17:14:58 and a trophy! Apr 04 17:15:14 :D Apr 04 17:15:23 and a truffle Apr 04 17:15:29 oooh, those are tastier. Apr 04 17:16:13 muriani: ;) Apr 04 17:16:30 sounds like you want to use the dsp because it's a dsp Apr 04 17:17:00 aholler: :)) Apr 04 17:17:10 :"> Apr 04 17:17:31 my little knowledge, sorry :| Apr 04 17:19:06 if it's for a project you should have or make a plan. Apr 04 17:19:20 just start using the dsp, when you really need it Apr 04 17:19:51 otherwise you will waste many hours to find out you don't need the dsp Apr 04 17:20:29 av500, aholler huh? Apr 04 17:20:41 pfefferz: just trolling you Apr 04 17:20:55 oh okay Apr 04 17:22:22 aholler: i wish i could do that! the *** system of university projects are wasting our times, always!! :| Apr 04 17:24:57 you can always write it off as a "learning" Apr 04 17:25:20 uhumm.. Apr 04 17:26:32 a project typically has goal. does that include "using a dsp"? Apr 04 17:26:45 aholler: yes Apr 04 17:26:53 ah, ok. Apr 04 17:27:16 aholler: thanks for your advice anyway :) Apr 04 17:27:52 np, I just offered confusion ;) Apr 04 17:28:12 ;) Apr 04 17:33:21 "For confusion is a kind of bewitchment—a moment when what we supposed we understood loses its form and runs together and becomes one with other things that, though they might have had different outward forms, shared the same inward nature." Apr 04 17:35:59 Sorry, but what does c6run exactly do? is it enough to compile an opencv app with that, to use dsp for special functions? for example furious transforms . Apr 04 17:36:07 jay69811: source? Apr 04 17:36:53 mru: the confusion by neal stephenson Apr 04 17:37:25 nkh: no Apr 04 17:37:33 read what it does Apr 04 17:37:43 "furious transforms" Apr 04 17:37:45 nice one Apr 04 17:37:50 mru: ^^^ Apr 04 17:38:13 :) Apr 04 17:38:26 I started looking for that phrase in jay69811's quote Apr 04 17:38:31 it seemed more appropriate there Apr 04 17:39:12 av500: ok seems i should read everything more carefull from begining :D Apr 04 17:40:02 av500: thank you man, you helped a lot! Apr 04 17:40:09 rcn-ee: thanks too! Apr 04 17:40:17 have a nice time :) Apr 04 17:40:19 yeah, couldn't help it Apr 04 17:40:20 bye Apr 04 17:40:35 ;) :-h Apr 04 17:44:37 rcn-ee: let's talk about the kernel mgmt when I get back home Apr 04 17:45:28 hmm, to bad, the launchpad doesn't have easy to reach pins for scl and sda from the tusb Apr 04 17:45:57 tusb has all pins easily solderable Apr 04 17:46:20 its like 1.27mm spacing Apr 04 17:46:33 you can drive a prius through Apr 04 17:47:03 aholler: I'll solder it for you Apr 04 17:47:47 aholler: admit it, you need glasses Apr 04 17:47:52 koen, heading out for lunch, be back in an hour. Apr 04 17:48:10 koen, is supposed to be paying attention here :) Apr 04 17:48:16 I'm not that good with soldering anything below 2.54mm spacing ;) Apr 04 17:48:27 flux ftw! Apr 04 17:48:35 aholler: as said, happy to help Apr 04 17:48:51 stereo microscope ftw Apr 04 17:48:56 that would eleminate the fun. Apr 04 17:49:01 but 1.27 is easy Apr 04 17:49:44 0.5 is where the fun starts Apr 04 17:55:30 av500: pantograph soldering irons FTW Apr 04 17:55:50 yes, stereo microscopes are awesome Apr 04 17:55:56 30x in stereo Apr 04 17:56:13 stereo, bah Apr 04 17:56:19 Russ: the only difficult thing is to get the solder tip into view without burning everything :) Apr 04 17:56:24 makes such a difference Apr 04 17:56:46 surround microscopes are the thing to have Apr 04 17:56:55 can't afford one right now, so I have a head band coming Apr 04 17:57:12 "Take our survey - let us know how you would add audio to your MCU-based designs and receive a FREE C5000™ Audio Capacitive Touch BoosterPack...." Apr 04 17:57:14 stereo microscope + iron on a pantograph = eerily perfect joints Apr 04 17:57:28 av500: thats exactly how I've killed a board using a stereo-microscope ;) Apr 04 17:57:31 after the survey, they talk about a "draw" Apr 04 17:58:45 what a surprise Apr 04 17:59:16 they should at least rig it like we do Apr 04 18:00:31 hmm, so in 2012 TI wants to sell me a DSP to build an mp3 player? Apr 04 18:00:48 jkridner_: ^^^ are you having a deja-vu? Apr 04 18:00:50 just learned about the yes command, amazing how I could miss that until now. ;) Apr 04 18:00:56 yes Apr 04 18:01:27 just 'til you try "no" Apr 04 18:01:32 yes "no" Apr 04 18:01:51 av500: heheh... sell you? Apr 04 18:02:01 well, me, you, the world Apr 04 18:02:02 but my real favourite is "maybe" Apr 04 18:02:25 av500: clearly, you need to buy at least 1 TI product ;) Apr 04 18:05:13 ds2: well, roughly 13ys ago, marrying an 8 bit micro to a dsp to do an mp3 player was "new" Apr 04 18:06:28 maybe they mean their MSP430's... marketing says they are not 8 bit Apr 04 18:06:34 RS already sent me 4 updates on the "pi" Apr 04 18:06:43 ds2: s/8/16/ Apr 04 18:06:57 :D Apr 04 18:07:18 so they are using the iterative approach to pi not the monte carlo method? Apr 04 18:07:19 anyway, anybody who needs an mp3 player can get a one chip chinese SoC ... Apr 04 18:11:38 prpplague: I went with this, 39 good reviews and 1 not so good on amazon. Apr 04 18:11:44 prpplague: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180672745995&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:3160 Apr 04 18:12:15 * prpplague looks Apr 04 18:12:23 djlewis: dandy Apr 04 18:12:51 djlewis: it does not suck? Apr 04 18:12:58 djlewis: why go through ebay? Apr 04 18:13:03 av500: I HOPE NOT ;) Apr 04 18:13:23 CAUSE IT WAS LESS EXPENSIVE FROM THE DEALER THROUGH THEIR EBAY SPECIAL Apr 04 18:13:25 you mean it only blows? Apr 04 18:13:35 ..chunks.. Apr 04 18:13:35 sorry bout caps Apr 04 18:14:07 $139.xx P 15 sh at amazon and dealer direct. Apr 04 18:15:04 * djlewis cant look at screen while typing :( Apr 04 18:16:08 djlewis: eh? Apr 04 18:16:51 ds2: same dealer "mercantile_station" on amazon and direct charges more. Apr 04 18:17:14 ds2: i found this add and saved $40.00 Apr 04 18:17:28 djlewis: http://www.circuitspecialists.com/csi899a+.html Apr 04 18:17:42 oh you mean from the same guy... Apr 04 18:18:00 ds2: right Apr 04 18:19:05 djlewis: I can find similar prices from other folks w/o having to deal with the hassle of ebay Apr 04 18:19:22 ds2: the co I ordered from has a very good review rating for service, warranty, etc Apr 04 18:19:42 ds2: agreed, ebay is a hassle. Apr 04 18:20:26 my first time ordering through ebay. Apr 04 18:20:47 have had a acct setup there for several years Apr 04 18:20:52 djlewis: that place has a physical store so that puts it a bit more dependable then ebay Apr 04 18:21:14 oh, so you're taking up gambling Apr 04 18:21:28 why yes ;) Apr 04 18:21:29 yep, up in Nebraska Apr 04 18:23:40 ds2: we shall see how it transpires, i ordered 1am and it is ready for ups pickup now. Apr 04 18:25:57 djlewis: don't you have shop air at home? Apr 04 18:26:28 ds2: like my 12 gallon 2 piston air compressor? Apr 04 18:26:31 djlewis: yeah Apr 04 18:26:40 ds2: and? Apr 04 18:26:43 cuz the weak point on those is suppose to be the integrated compressor Apr 04 18:26:52 better shop air might be more reliable Apr 04 18:27:12 ds2 i looked at Dave's Atten review and it hasd a crap blower in the hand unit. Apr 04 18:27:38 yes... there should be units that run off of shop air instead Apr 04 18:28:03 yeah, blow those little components across the county Apr 04 18:30:21 i assume you run them with a regulator Apr 04 18:31:03 ds2: i supposed you would go there, I was kidding. Yours is a good idea. I may fall back on it if need be. Apr 04 18:31:36 :) Apr 04 18:32:05 I need to acquire an oil and moisture filter for my compressor Apr 04 18:33:11 ds2: your link shows lots of cool blower tips Apr 04 18:33:26 djlewis: I suspect they are all manufactured by the same folks Apr 04 18:34:02 ds2: the clamp looks same Apr 04 19:48:48 So my GPMC works with loose timings, however when I set more precise timings, reads are still fine but writes make the beaglebone hang Apr 04 19:51:14 <_av500_> hang? Apr 04 19:51:22 <_av500_> you configured wait states? Apr 04 19:54:25 nope Apr 04 19:56:29 <_av500_> netgear, I hate you: http://forum1.netgear.com/showpost.php?s=e633fdb443fc893c09c74314aa80f9ea&p=204492&postcount=1 Apr 04 19:56:39 <_av500_> koen: beagle mac is "illegal" Apr 04 19:58:41 What I do is use GPMC read/write, change GPMC_CONFIG[2-6], GPMC read will fine, try one GPMC write: hang Apr 04 19:58:59 s/will/still/ Apr 04 20:11:00 oh wow Apr 04 20:11:26 the registers marked "Only for OMAP3430" are really not only for omap3430 Apr 04 20:11:52 <_av500_> also for 3530? Apr 04 20:12:03 <_av500_> nd 3505? Apr 04 20:15:15 <_av500_> great, even after fooling that crap router, it wont assign a fixed IP to the beagle Apr 04 20:17:18 So basically in https://github.com/koenkooi/linux/blob/master/arch/arm/plat-omap/include/plat/gpmc.h, line 129 should be disregarded because if you dont set those two properly you hang your bone on write Apr 04 20:19:56 <_av500_> http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Tips_for_configuring_OMAP35x,_AM35x,_and_AM-DM37x_GPMC_registers Apr 04 20:19:59 <_av500_> saw that? Apr 04 20:20:26 <_av500_> but that is typical for TI Apr 04 20:20:48 <_av500_> Soc X has some subsystem Apr 04 20:20:54 <_av500_> Sox X+1 add a new feature Apr 04 20:21:05 <_av500_> so, the code adds a test for if(soc x+1) Apr 04 20:21:17 <_av500_> and then X+2 comes along and it breaks of course Apr 04 20:21:21 <_av500_> same for comments Apr 04 20:28:28 _av500_, thanks, I had not seen that wiki page Apr 04 20:28:57 I guess I should have RTFM and not just trust the comments in the code :) Apr 04 20:34:15 <_av500_> yes Apr 04 20:34:32 <_av500_> i found that page by googling that register name Apr 04 20:34:56 <_av500_> as usual, hindsight is 20/20 Apr 04 20:35:03 in order of increasing wrongness: code, comments, manual, wiki Apr 04 20:35:15 _av500_: only 20/20? Apr 04 20:47:47 * _av500_ hates connman Apr 04 20:48:08 * djlewis ++ Apr 04 20:48:57 <_av500_> I need to install frakin python to set a fixed ip? Apr 04 20:48:58 <_av500_> wtf Apr 04 20:49:20 ip=addr:mask:foo:bar:etc Apr 04 20:49:39 who needs userspace? Apr 04 20:50:36 <_av500_> mru: I am close to writing BASIC.ko Apr 04 20:50:59 <_av500_> and implement peek and poke Apr 04 20:53:30 <_av500_> maybe systemd and connman is all nice and new, but I fail to see how that would help linux noobs when basically 99% of the googlable info on linux does not apply Apr 04 20:54:07 <_av500_> plus the fact that all these decoy files still exist in e.g. /etc that people try to edit Apr 04 20:54:26 <_av500_> like /etc/network/interfaces or the stuff in init.d Apr 04 20:54:34 <_av500_> koen: yes, thats a rant Apr 04 20:54:49 one word: openrc Apr 04 20:56:36 <_av500_> and thta helps how? Apr 04 20:57:02 it's sane Apr 04 20:57:43 <_av500_> maybe Apr 04 20:57:47 <_av500_> but that was not my point Apr 04 20:58:04 <_av500_> maybe systemd is sane, maybe not Apr 04 20:58:08 <_av500_> same for connman Apr 04 20:58:15 I'm quite convinced it is not Apr 04 20:58:22 <_av500_> but both do no appear in google results Apr 04 20:58:34 <_av500_> unless you know you are looking for them Apr 04 20:59:41 something which requires python can't be sane Apr 04 20:59:54 <_av500_> the fact that angstrom is on the forefront of "modern" linux does not help newbies on beagle or bone Apr 04 21:01:00 <_av500_> aholler: i dont think connman requires python, just that the tools to configure it were written in it Apr 04 21:01:17 tools to configure it? Apr 04 21:01:27 if a text editor is not good enough to configure something, it is not sane Apr 04 21:01:33 the desktop gui Apr 04 21:01:39 text editor or butterflies Apr 04 21:01:48 <_av500_> mru: ah, the py stuff sends messages via d-bus Apr 04 21:01:55 <_av500_> double fail Apr 04 21:02:05 dbus is such a disaster Apr 04 21:02:34 heh Apr 04 21:02:46 one that everyone uses Apr 04 21:02:55 <_av500_> mranostay: is forced to use Apr 04 21:03:10 <_av500_> but hey, lets merge that into systemd as well Apr 04 21:03:14 reminds me on bluez. that was long unusable until someone "reinvented" commandline-tools for bluez Apr 04 21:03:29 <_av500_> yeah. lets merge bluez into systemd as well Apr 04 21:03:35 I'm staying as far away as possible from bluez Apr 04 21:04:07 inbetween one had to use python to send some awfull messages over dbus Apr 04 21:04:13 I once looked briefly at the bluez source, and there was a security hole on just about every page Apr 04 21:04:34 <_av500_> aholler: well, looks like connman reused that code :) Apr 04 21:06:11 * _av500_ officially awards "ricer status" to angstrom, here take that badge too Apr 04 21:06:58 * _av500_ looks for that ubuntu download again..... Apr 04 21:31:43 guys, what does "Oops! can't find FMD driver" mean? Apr 04 21:37:38 <_av500_> it means something cannot find hte FMD driver Apr 04 21:38:58 what is the FMD driver to begin with Apr 04 21:39:30 how would we know? Apr 04 21:39:52 that i'm blushing? Apr 04 21:40:07 what are you trying to do? Apr 04 21:40:34 <_av500_> wince Apr 04 21:40:42 * djlewis shutters Apr 04 21:40:52 that's what I was beginning to fear Apr 04 21:40:57 <_av500_> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa447813.aspx Apr 04 21:41:36 damn microsoft -_-; Apr 04 21:41:57 <_av500_> they are holding a gun to your head? Apr 04 21:42:06 <_av500_> if not, you have options Apr 04 21:42:39 well, microsoft is like a teenage son; always makes trouble, but i still love it :P Apr 04 21:43:00 <_av500_> like your teenage son, expensive therapy can do wonders Apr 04 21:43:10 that too Apr 04 21:44:27 <_av500_> anyway, did you check AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS? Apr 04 21:44:40 <_av500_> maybe its a stray TSR Apr 04 21:45:00 <_av500_> or you need a registry cleaner? Apr 04 21:45:04 i'll see what went bonkers. maybe the used image itself is retarded Apr 04 21:45:21 <_av500_> I would use defrag.exe Apr 04 21:45:49 chkdsk /f /r /x Apr 04 21:46:24 then sfc /scannow Apr 04 21:46:26 <_av500_> or somethin in win.ini Apr 04 21:58:58 hi guys! Apr 04 21:59:11 mranostay: gm Apr 04 22:16:21 djlewis: where is it morning? Apr 04 22:18:40 on irc Apr 04 22:18:57 we run off UTC? Apr 04 22:19:01 UGT Apr 04 22:23:12 mru: UGT? Apr 04 22:24:06 google it Apr 04 22:24:06 http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html Apr 04 22:24:14 or Crofton it Apr 04 22:25:39 mru: sad how true that is is Apr 04 22:25:39 * djlewis is looking forward to recovering parts off circuit boards using flaming air ;) Apr 04 22:26:06 relays? Apr 04 22:26:39 mranostay: you get my post to you about 1amCST Apr 04 22:27:44 I was just ordering a hot air rework/soldering station. Apr 04 22:28:24 djlewis: is there a real message i need to dig out of logs? or you being UGT now? :) Apr 04 22:28:55 mranostay: no msg, just blabbing now. dont bother. Apr 04 22:39:36 i think it wasn't m$'s fault after all. was hoping it'd work off rca, but did over HDMI Apr 04 22:39:56 worked flawlessly as soon as i plugged... now i need to figure out how to do an RCA instead of HDMI Apr 04 22:59:23 * djlewis has seen wince run very well on some lessor arm's in hand scanners for inv control Apr 04 23:10:10 later... Apr 05 02:22:36 hey , i've tried replacing my angstrom img using : xz -dkc > /dev/sdX .. it showed writing activity for a minute or so and then wrote there's an i/o error . any ideas ? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Apr 05 02:59:58 2012