**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Apr 07 02:59:59 2012
Apr 07 05:52:47 <XMPPwocky>  "To boot the device, follow the booting procedure."
Apr 07 05:52:52 <XMPPwocky> you don't say?
Apr 07 05:59:49 <dm8tbr> there's a yo dawg joke in it. I'm sure
Apr 07 06:23:01 <mranostay> good god i have to build meta-ide-support to get runqemu-extract-sdk to work?
Apr 07 06:23:09 * mranostay curses Yocto
Apr 07 07:02:41 <_av500_> what exactly is yocto?
Apr 07 07:12:54 <Russ> aholler_, that is really weird
Apr 07 07:13:09 <Russ> _av500_, don't worry, I have a bag that says, "Ask me about yocto"
Apr 07 07:13:22 <Russ> _av500_, I'll go ask the bag, brb
Apr 07 08:06:42 <_av500_> or ask the bag lady
Apr 07 10:10:12 <aholler_> yocto sounds like a yogurt, does it turn left or right?
Apr 07 10:14:25 <dm8tbr> and if it's a fruit-yoghurt, does it contain wood-chips and artificial aroma?
Apr 07 11:33:04 <kvarley> Building a kernel takes a surprising amount of time
Apr 07 11:33:41 <_av500_> depends
Apr 07 11:45:24 <dm8tbr> with todays machines having possibly dozens of cores and really fast drives... shouldn't really
Apr 07 11:47:24 <kvarley> dm8tbr: I'm building on the beagleboard-xM
Apr 07 11:47:41 <dm8tbr> SSKM...
Apr 07 11:48:17 <kvarley> SSKM?
Apr 07 11:48:26 <aholler> make -j7 bzImage modules && make modules_install
Apr 07 11:48:39 <aholler> needs <2min here
Apr 07 11:48:47 <dm8tbr> SelbstSchuldKeinMitleid -- own fault, no pity
Apr 07 11:49:21 <kvarley> heh
Apr 07 11:49:30 <aholler> (including a make clean && before)
Apr 07 11:49:32 <dm8tbr> next thing you'll tell us you're bootstrapping gentoo...
Apr 07 11:49:42 <kvarley> Lol, no gentoo here
Apr 07 11:50:00 <kvarley> I was following the guide on git for the stable-kernel
Apr 07 11:50:24 <kvarley> Do I not have to build from scratch then? aholler, will just doing the modules work?
Apr 07 11:50:49 <aholler> you can other things while compiling the kernel
Apr 07 11:51:04 <aholler> +do
Apr 07 11:51:22 <kvarley> Yeah, I have been doing work while it's running
Apr 07 11:52:12 <aholler> compiling a kernel on the beagle (720mhz) needs 30-60 minutes, never timed that
Apr 07 11:52:53 <kvarley> I've been running on the beagle-xm (1GHz) and it's been running for about 3 hours now I'd say
Apr 07 11:53:05 <kvarley> Going from source but also adding in modules
Apr 07 11:53:38 <kvarley> Hmm maybe only 2 hours
Apr 07 11:54:13 <aholler> that depends on gcc, os and the storage
Apr 07 11:55:09 <aholler> but it's pretty easy to cross-compile the kernel, so that might be an option for you
Apr 07 11:55:25 <kvarley> Yeah, gonna fire up a desktop and see if I can do that
Apr 07 11:55:32 <kvarley> Thanks for the info =]
Apr 07 12:13:44 <_av500_> running vhdl simumlation of omap6 is damn slow on my PIC
Apr 07 12:24:40 <dm8tbr> _av500_: but does it run linux?
Apr 07 12:33:21 <_av500_> linux is a toy
Apr 07 12:51:19 <dm8tbr> _av500_: right, you're a professional, I forgot.
Apr 07 12:52:05 <TheBadger> what I want to know is how do I get porn on my beagleboard?
Apr 07 12:52:29 <TheBadger> any kind of porn is fine.. but I am after an indepth tutorial on getting hardcore pornography onto my beagleboard
Apr 07 12:52:50 <TheBadger> I have tried opkg install porn and wget porn to no avail
Apr 07 12:55:20 <kvarley> *facepalm*
Apr 07 12:59:00 * dm8tbr rates this troll attempt 3/10
Apr 07 13:03:00 <kvarley> dm8tbr: You're being generous there xD
Apr 07 13:03:32 <kvarley> Time to get cross-compiling
Apr 07 13:08:19 <kvarley> aholler: Where did you run "make -j7 bzImage modules && make modules_install" from?
Apr 07 13:09:11 <kvarley> I'm following this guide (https://github.com/RobertCNelson/stable-kernel) and I want to just make the modules that it provides as I already have a stable kernel on my board
Apr 07 13:09:17 <kvarley> how can I do that?
Apr 07 13:22:42 <kvarley> Nvm got it
Apr 07 13:57:42 <aholler> a toy which drives most of the internet ;)
Apr 07 13:59:00 <kvarley> aholler: And you microwave, washing machine, toaster, phone, car, etc ;)
Apr 07 13:59:14 <aholler> hopefully not
Apr 07 13:59:30 <aholler> besides the phone
Apr 07 13:59:35 <Crofton> phones already
Apr 07 13:59:44 <Crofton> I believe it is in cars too
Apr 07 14:00:07 <aholler> but only for non-important stuff
Apr 07 14:09:34 <_av500_> like steering
Apr 07 14:09:41 <_av500_> i want my mp3 in real time
Apr 07 14:10:36 <aholler> hmm, I think google already has a car which is steered by linux
Apr 07 14:11:08 <aholler> at least I don't think they would use win for that
Apr 07 14:20:40 <_av500_> I want Amazons self driving car, powered my mechanical turk and driven remotely from india for 10¢/hour
Apr 07 14:21:59 <kvarley> What media player do I use to take advantage of the SGX drivers I just installed on the Beagleboard-xM
Apr 07 14:21:59 <kvarley> ?
Apr 07 14:22:50 <aholler> a crowed-sourced car?
Apr 07 14:23:05 <aholler> s/crowed/crowd/
Apr 07 14:24:53 <_av500_> crowd steered
Apr 07 14:24:56 <aholler> driver to car: "please drive me home", car to driver: "please guide me"
Apr 07 14:25:08 <_av500_> please tell me the exact steps
Apr 07 14:28:07 <aholler> pollin drives me to poverty, first I wanted to buy only a small solar-battery-charger, but then I left the online shops with tons of other stuff ;)
Apr 07 14:28:50 <aholler> include a 10w-solar-panel ;)
Apr 07 14:29:11 <aholler> including
Apr 07 14:31:48 <_av500_> preparing for the end of the world?
Apr 07 14:32:48 <aholler> yes, I wanted to buy a dynamo driven radio too, butthey don't had such
Apr 07 14:34:47 <aholler> so now I can at least still program my beagle when the power fails.
Apr 07 14:35:06 <aholler> and the sun shines
Apr 07 14:38:52 <aholler> and the nuclear reactors around me don't send me death rays
Apr 07 14:40:01 <kvarley> I've installed the SGX video drivers, how do I use them now? Or are they selected automatically?
Apr 07 14:40:31 <aholler> more /var/log/Xorg0.log
Apr 07 14:40:46 <aholler> if you have such
Apr 07 14:41:32 <aholler> that means you have to configure xorg to use them
Apr 07 14:41:38 <kvarley> ah ok
Apr 07 14:44:42 <kvarley> How do I add the options?
Apr 07 14:45:08 <kvarley> I followed the instruction on the wiki (http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#SGX_Video_Acceleration) - it makes no reference to configuring xorg
Apr 07 14:50:45 <kvarley> This is my error message that gets thrown by playbin2 - http://paste.ubuntu.com/918939
Apr 07 16:00:44 <_av500_> and what does jack server have to do with SGX?
Apr 07 16:01:50 <dm8tbr> also angst-rom would have had sgx in repo IIRC
Apr 07 16:13:41 <kvarley> angstrom locks my cpu to 100% and performs poorly
Apr 07 16:13:58 <kvarley> running off a class 10 card too
Apr 07 16:14:31 <kvarley> gonna try building an image through their website and see how it goes
Apr 07 16:14:38 <dm8tbr> sounds like you-re-doing-it-wrong™
Apr 07 16:14:42 <kvarley> xD
Apr 07 16:14:57 <kvarley> I either can play videos well or have good performance for IM and web browsing
Apr 07 16:15:06 <kvarley> Can't seem to get it on the same rom
Apr 07 16:15:34 <dm8tbr> you don't need sgx for either of those
Apr 07 16:15:57 <kvarley> dm8tbr: I just need the NEON drivers?
Apr 07 16:16:12 <dm8tbr> neon doesn't need 'drivers'
Apr 07 16:16:17 <kvarley> Well
Apr 07 16:16:25 <kvarley> Xorg omapfb Drivers
Apr 07 16:16:59 <dm8tbr> IVA needs a kernel module to talk to it, but that's for accelerated codecs, whole different story
Apr 07 16:17:31 <kvarley> Easiest way to get smooth/optimised video playback and good performance?
Apr 07 16:18:03 <kvarley> Actually
Apr 07 16:18:08 <kvarley> I haven't upgraded angstrom
Apr 07 16:18:24 <dm8tbr> sounds like you're chasing an X-Y problem
Apr 07 16:18:40 <kvarley> x-y?
Apr 07 16:18:50 <dm8tbr> lmgtfy
Apr 07 16:19:29 <dm8tbr> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=x-y-problem
Apr 07 16:19:34 <dm8tbr> that should get you there
Apr 07 16:19:51 <kvarley> lol ty
Apr 07 16:20:24 <kvarley> Ah ok
Apr 07 16:22:23 <kvarley> dm8tbr: What software do you run on your board?
Apr 07 16:22:40 <dm8tbr> AVOS ;)
Apr 07 16:22:56 <dm8tbr> oh and Mer ofc
Apr 07 16:23:41 <dm8tbr> oh, hmm I do actually own a BB C4 nowadays, not just other OMAP3 devices. but I haven't used it so far.
Apr 07 16:28:07 <kvarley> So what exactly do I need for smooth media playback on a debian based linux installation? I've confused myself totally today
Apr 07 16:28:34 <dm8tbr> depends on what sort of media
Apr 07 16:29:13 <dm8tbr> I think there was a reasonably well working XBMC port for OMAP3
Apr 07 16:29:33 <dm8tbr> probably in the angstrom repo
Apr 07 16:29:52 <kvarley> XviD media
Apr 07 16:30:59 <dm8tbr> that's mpeg4-asp, might even work up to 720p with just userspace
Apr 07 16:32:05 <kvarley> For that I need a working xorg configuration that uses the omapfb drivers?
Apr 07 16:34:30 <dm8tbr> http://xbmc.org/?s=beagleboard
Apr 07 16:35:18 <kvarley> ty looks like I've got some research todo
Apr 07 16:37:29 <dm8tbr> install angstrom with xbmc, -- bliss
Apr 07 16:38:54 <kvarley> If I make an image with the online angstrom builder, will it automatically bring the tweaks for the beagleboard with it?
Apr 07 16:39:06 <kvarley> Or will I still have to build via svn to get them>?
Apr 07 16:40:56 <dm8tbr> did you bother checking?
Apr 07 16:41:06 <dm8tbr> it has a 'beagleboard' option
Apr 07 16:41:24 <dm8tbr> and the animalboards are the best supported targets for angstrom...
Apr 07 16:42:42 <kvarley> Right, I have copied over a custom image I made with xbmc installed
Apr 07 16:42:45 <kvarley> Lets see how it goes
Apr 07 16:43:39 <nemik> kvarley: you have an HDMI 'cape' for this?
Apr 07 16:43:51 <nemik> i'm real curious to hear if it works for you
Apr 07 16:44:25 <kvarley> nemik: I have the Beagleboard-xM
Apr 07 16:48:39 <nemik> ah, sorry i read beaglebone :/
Apr 07 16:49:43 <kvarley> np
Apr 07 17:35:53 <kvarley> dm8tbr: How do I know what uImage, uBoot and MLO I need for the corresponding image?
Apr 07 17:43:00 <kvarley> Found some good docs, will stop being a noob now.
Apr 07 17:44:03 <dm8tbr> hehe, good luck :)
Apr 07 17:48:36 <kvarley> dm8tbr: Hehe, thanks and thanks for your patience today ==
Apr 07 17:48:39 <kvarley> *=D
Apr 07 17:48:45 <dm8tbr> np
Apr 07 17:56:22 <OrlandoT> I formatted my SDCard for the beaglebone and installed the latest uImage/MLO/uBoot and rootfs and modules but now when the system loads the g_mass_storage module does not get automatically loaded. How are modules loaded at startup? how can I make the module load automatically?
Apr 07 18:02:27 <emeb> trying first login to a beaglebone task_base_extended rootfs from narcissus. No login/passwd combinations seem to work. Suggestions?
Apr 07 18:03:10 <dm8tbr> anstrom used to have 'root' and no password
Apr 07 18:03:14 <dm8tbr> or sthg like that
Apr 07 18:03:18 <dm8tbr> haven't tried in a while
Apr 07 18:03:59 <emeb> yeah - tried that already.
Apr 07 18:04:25 <emeb> Judging from the errors to console during boot it appears that the narcissus task_base_extended is broke.
Apr 07 18:05:41 <emeb> Lots of stuff appears to be missing and/or misconfigured: http://pastebin.com/6DqHzDvF
Apr 07 18:23:26 <kvarley> I am using a demo angstrom image from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ and the usb ports don't seem to work. Any ideas?
Apr 07 18:24:59 <OrlandoT> connect and reconnect several times
Apr 07 18:25:06 <OrlandoT> until it works
Apr 07 18:25:11 <OrlandoT> for me it was very flaky
Apr 07 18:25:58 <ynezz> yes, optimal replug count is somewhere in between 1 and 2435 times
Apr 07 18:33:54 <jvcleave> on the bone this 99-hokey-pokey.rules fix worked ok for me
Apr 07 18:34:03 <jvcleave> for usb
Apr 07 18:34:06 <jvcleave> http://dev.gentoo.org/~armin76/arm/beaglebone/install.xml
Apr 07 18:34:37 <mranostay> emerge world must be a pain on a bone :)
Apr 07 18:36:03 <jvcleave> I used it with debian
Apr 07 18:39:12 <kvarley> I have no ethernet power either
Apr 07 18:39:25 <kvarley> I assume since it's a demo image it will have the modules in the kernel?
Apr 07 18:41:02 <jvcleave> kvarley: joined late - which device?
Apr 07 19:04:09 <aholler> mranostay: why? does your hw beat you while compiling?
Apr 07 19:04:21 <kvarley> jvcleave: Beagleboard-xM (Sorry for the delay)
Apr 07 19:04:49 <kvarley> jvcleave: Using the Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2011.1-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2 image
Apr 07 19:05:04 <jvcleave> no problem - thought maybe it was the bone
Apr 07 19:20:22 <kvarley> What does the MLO file manage?
Apr 07 19:20:40 <m0erk> hey there.. still searching for someone who tested beagleboard-xm with matlab/simulink ?
Apr 07 19:21:33 <m0erk> still have some practical questions on how to use the DSP? i.e. can i use the simulink build-in C64x library?
Apr 07 19:49:57 <_av500_> "...i want to setup open cv python on my beagleboard xm can anyone tell me the steps  to do it,thanks in advance
Apr 07 19:50:28 <_av500_> hmm, simulink does C64x?
Apr 07 19:56:27 <mranostay> why is making a domain registration private cost $$$?
Apr 07 19:57:48 <aholler> _av500_: hmm, "exact" is missing ;)
Apr 07 19:59:15 <mranostay> _av500_: trolling on the weekend?
Apr 07 19:59:57 <aholler> ne, he just cites the ml
Apr 07 20:05:09 <aholler> hmm, the kernel-msgs in "babble interrupt occured" are reading like musb got interactive: [60591.512868] ti81xx_interrupt 870: Please issue long reset to make usb
Apr 07 20:05:12 <aholler> functional !!
Apr 07 20:05:43 <aholler> ;)
Apr 07 20:08:40 <kangaroo> hi all
Apr 07 20:08:59 <kangaroo> i campiled the barebox for beagle board xm
Apr 07 20:09:11 <kangaroo> got MLO and barebox.bin
Apr 07 20:09:34 <kangaroo> can anybody tell me how to set bootargs
Apr 07 20:09:55 <kangaroo> bootargs for barebox
Apr 07 20:10:03 <kangaroo> bootargs for barebox
Apr 07 20:10:12 <kangaroo> bootargs for barebox
Apr 07 20:12:03 <kangaroo> bootargs for barebox for beagle xm
Apr 07 20:12:04 <kangaroo> bootargs for barebox for beagle xm
Apr 07 20:12:09 <kangaroo> bootargs for barebox for beagle xm ????
Apr 07 20:12:39 <mranostay> christ
Apr 07 20:13:09 <asasas> ok
Apr 07 20:13:15 <asasas> bootargs for barebox for beagle xm
Apr 07 20:14:18 <mranostay> ask #barebox?
Apr 07 20:17:56 <asasas> barebox is alternat for u-boot which is under development!!!OK
Apr 07 20:20:12 <mranostay> christ  stop with the pm spam
Apr 07 20:21:13 * mranostay notes he hasn't had to use /ignore in years till today
Apr 07 20:33:43 <dm8tbr> mranostay: but he's so special and it was URRRRGENT!!11! I'm sure. ;-þ
Apr 07 20:38:44 <aholler> and those people typically first send a pm to first in the list of members, which is currently me :/
Apr 07 20:39:52 <NishanthMenon> aholler, seems _av500_?
Apr 07 20:40:34 <aholler> atleast asasas hit me
Apr 07 20:41:27 <NishanthMenon> yep.. why barebox .. sigh...
Apr 07 20:48:17 <_av500_> NishanthMenon: not me this time
Apr 07 20:48:38 <NishanthMenon> _av500_, just trying to get people to spam you ;)
Apr 07 20:49:15 <_av500_> bring it on
Apr 07 20:52:12 <NishanthMenon> :)
Apr 07 20:56:30 <jannau> any good tips on how to debug asoc codecs (wm8994 in my case)? I'm forward porting avendor kernel. register dumps are almost identical to the working config
Apr 07 21:15:40 <_av500_> ...in which we find out that "limited edition" bolivian peanuts taste like ..... peanuts ...
Apr 08 00:29:17 <autif> Hi! Is there an image that I can download and dd on my microusb card to test that my beagleboard xM C1 is not dead yet
Apr 08 00:31:54 <emeb> running MACHINE=beaglebone bitbake console-image. Why on earth is it building xorg & gtk?
Apr 08 00:50:38 <makf> I am trying to attach a custom camera board to the beagle bone's GPIO, do some image processing on the beagle, then transfer the frames over an isochronous usb connection to a PC for display. Has anyone done something similar to this on the USB side of things? I am new to usb programming and not too sure where to start...
Apr 08 00:56:54 <aholler> the kernel has a webcam-gadget
Apr 08 01:02:43 <XMPPwocky> so I'm an idiot
Apr 08 01:02:45 <XMPPwocky> "Why isn't the stack pointer getting restored?!?!!!"
Apr 08 01:02:48 <XMPPwocky> "oh, right, because I saved it by pushing it onto the stack"
Apr 08 01:02:50 <XMPPwocky> <
Apr 08 01:02:51 <XMPPwocky> >>
Apr 08 02:27:29 <autif> It looks like my board is resetting - http://pastebin.com/Lf2t4w9c
Apr 08 02:27:36 <autif> what may be wrong?
Apr 08 02:27:53 <autif> I got my beagleboard just a few days ago and I am very new toit
Apr 08 02:28:17 <emeb> autif: how are you powering it?
Apr 08 02:29:14 <autif> with a 2000mA 5V power adapter
Apr 08 02:29:25 <autif> that was from some other board
Apr 08 02:30:13 <autif> it draws more than 2 amps?
Apr 08 02:30:17 <emeb> I've had problems with some power adapters. Even though they're rated for $BIGNUM amps, the Beagle sometimes doesn't like them.
Apr 08 02:30:26 <autif> hmmmn
Apr 08 02:30:36 <autif> can it be USB powered?
Apr 08 02:30:40 <emeb> It's not about current draw so much as inrush, etc.
Apr 08 02:31:01 <emeb> Sometimes it can be. Have you tried both USB and adapter simulataneously?
Apr 08 02:32:43 <autif> emeb - that was it - thanks for the suggestion - I powered it from a dual USB from my computer and that seems just fine - I will see what I can do for a good 5v power supply
Apr 08 02:32:49 <autif> thanks!
Apr 08 02:34:01 <emeb> autif: np
Apr 08 02:35:06 <autif> And now I have kernel panic - http://pastebin.com/MPSqqmNv
Apr 08 02:35:12 <autif> investigating
Apr 08 02:36:39 <autif> Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000014
Apr 08 02:36:43 <autif> that is odd
Apr 08 02:38:11 <aholler> it's like the power again
Apr 08 02:38:15 <aholler> likely
Apr 08 02:40:13 <autif> hmmmn
Apr 08 02:40:21 <autif> ok
Apr 08 02:40:28 <autif> will find a "real" power source
Apr 08 02:55:51 <autif> this is unbelievable - if do not use minicom - and attach it only after the boot is complete - the board boots up - I do have power issues - I need a better power source
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