**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 28 02:59:58 2012 May 28 03:00:09 <_troll_> some people just refuse to learn May 28 03:01:13 Yeah, like _troll :-) May 28 03:01:32 <_troll_> don't judge people by their nicks May 28 03:02:11 Take a read of this, if you think that caches don't matter much and external memory speed is king -- http://judy.sourceforge.net/doc/10minutes.htm May 28 03:02:23 <_troll_> I never said caches don't matter May 28 03:02:38 <_troll_> I said caches are not the *only* reason intel systems are faster than arm systems May 28 03:02:58 <_troll_> other reasons being microarchitecture and memory bandwidth May 28 03:05:22 Well nobody said they were the *only* reason. x86 cpu runs much faster than external memory and the cache runs fast enough to deliver data at the speed the cpu requires *most* of the time, that's the point. And a 1.5GHz ARM cpu should not run an order of magnitude slower than x86 since x86 cpus don't run at 15GHz. So it's gotta be the cache or the instruction speed, and we know that instruction density isn't too bad on ARM May 28 03:05:22 ./ May 28 03:08:53 Does the bealgebone have an onboard temp sensor? May 28 03:09:19 And since we know that faster memory cycles consumes more power and runs flat out ALL the time, it's reasonable to assume that ARM don't run their cache at the same speed as x86. It's hardly worth debating though. When I get a moment I'll just look up the cache clock speeds on both archs :P May 28 03:18:40 Guess not. May 28 03:50:53 there's something like a 40 cycle pipeline stall penalty for cache miss on the cortex A9 May 28 04:10:56 <_troll_> jay6981: not true May 28 04:11:51 <_troll_> an L2 miss has a high *latency* May 28 04:12:01 <_troll_> that's not the same as a pipeline stall May 28 04:12:15 <_troll_> A9 caches are non-blocking May 28 04:12:36 <_troll_> nothing will stall until the data is actually needed May 28 04:14:48 <_troll_> fiola: ARM L1 caches always run at full clock speed May 28 04:14:59 <_troll_> L2 speed depends on the implementation May 28 04:15:10 <_troll_> typically full or half core clock speed May 28 04:21:50 if you read test branch you'll stall on every miss May 28 04:22:02 <_troll_> don't do that then May 28 04:22:27 <_troll_> and actually you might not stall May 28 04:22:34 <_troll_> ever heard of branch prediction? May 28 04:23:01 huh? May 28 04:23:20 <_troll_> I take that as a no May 28 05:02:21 <_sundar_> hi _troll_, why not mru these days? May 28 05:09:54 because he has become one with the trolling May 28 05:16:30 <_sundar_> :) May 28 05:19:02 * mranostay wishs he live in CA and near this asian market that doesn't card when he was 16 :) May 28 05:21:16 <_sundar_> card? May 28 05:22:45 _sundar_: to buy alcohol May 28 05:23:07 in the states we usually that it seriously for anyone getting booze under 21 May 28 05:23:48 <_sundar_> oh :) May 28 05:23:56 yeah i assume your are in .eu? :) May 28 05:24:19 <_sundar_> no am from .in May 28 05:24:33 same difference probably May 28 05:35:28 _sundar_: of course we have a car culture so it is either drinking at 16 or driving :) May 28 05:36:18 <_sundar_> mranostay, what's the age limit you can get a car driving license? May 28 05:36:23 <_sundar_> 21? May 28 05:37:00 16 May 28 05:37:04 drinking is 21 May 28 05:38:18 Hi everyone, I have a BeagleBone question. I just got burned a bit by Arduino and I'm wondering how generally mature the BeagleBone product and software are. Is it buggy? Lots of fighting to get simple stuff done? Or is it pretty much a small working Linux machine? May 28 05:38:22 (That's a bit of a loaded question.) May 28 05:38:47 <_sundar_> here drinking is 18 and the government is actually looking to change it to 25. May 28 05:39:01 <_sundar_> lkesteloot, the latter May 28 05:39:31 So out of the box is boots and you can ssh in and run software that does all the expected stuff? May 28 05:39:47 That may sound like a stupid question but this is not true of Arduino when you do non-trivial stuff. May 28 05:40:43 <_sundar_> yes, i haven't got a bone but it should be the same as other beagles May 28 05:41:03 <_sundar_> beagles are not arduinos :) May 28 05:41:12 not even close May 28 05:41:22 not to say arudinos aren't useful May 28 05:42:02 what kinds of problems do people typically have with BeagleBones? May 28 05:42:03 <_sundar_> beagles can do a lot different things. its a just a miniature linux box May 28 05:42:51 <_sundar_> lkesteloot, what you wanna do with the bone. might help us answer specific to your needs May 28 05:43:44 Well my project is to be able to open and monitor my garage door from my iPhone. So the board must hook up directly to some relays and sensors, and must communicate with an outside server (that the iphone hits). May 28 05:43:57 But I've had a lot of problems today with the Ethernet shield and library of Arduino. May 28 05:44:07 and in general it's shaken my faith in the whole ecosystem. May 28 05:44:18 The software looks pretty crappy, frankly, under the hood. May 28 05:44:24 <_sundar_> the bone will be able to do the job perfectly May 28 05:44:28 so I'm looking for something more robust and polished. May 28 05:45:11 With the bone I could in principle also get rid of the external server altogether and open a port on my router. May 28 05:45:50 <_sundar_> lkesteloot, yes you can do so May 28 05:47:06 And A5 is the release to get? May 28 05:47:15 <_sundar_> A5? May 28 05:47:27 <_sundar_> you mean the borad revision? May 28 05:47:27 This review of A3 is exactly what I'm trying to avoid: http://www.amazon.com/review/R39PHBIVOOVIP0/ref=cm_cr_dp_title?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B006X35EN6&nodeID=541966&store=pc May 28 05:47:44 "what should have taken minutes took hours." May 28 05:47:45 etc May 28 05:49:35 Bad review of the A5: http://www.amazon.com/Specialcomp-BeagleBone-Rev-A5/product-reviews/B007KW80M6/ref=cm_cr_dp_hist_two?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addTwoStar May 28 05:49:57 "Spent hours weeding thru bad documentation and many forums." May 28 05:49:57 Ugh May 28 05:50:05 That describes today with Arduino. May 28 05:50:16 <_sundar_> i don't know about the problems in the A3 or other revisions. check in the beagle mailing list May 28 05:51:07 <_sundar_> may be somebody might have already sorted this out. or post your question there. May 28 05:51:45 Well that A5 review was posted two days ago. May 28 05:51:52 Okay thanks. May 28 05:52:10 By the way, in what country are they thinking of raising the drinking age to 25? May 28 05:52:20 (I joined the conversation late.) May 28 05:52:42 <_sundar_> people in the mailing list can give you better answers than what is written in reviews May 28 05:52:51 <_sundar_> lkesteloot, india May 28 05:55:32 <_sundar_> but thats probably never gonna happen with the corrupt gov :) May 28 05:56:47 yah drinking! May 28 05:58:05 <_troll_> in europe both drinking and driving are usually 18 May 28 05:58:36 i thought drinking was 16 May 28 05:58:46 you guys really don't card at all though :) May 28 05:59:20 _troll_: going to E-ELC by chance? May 28 06:01:31 * mranostay hides from panto May 28 06:02:29 <_sundar_> what about drinking and driving? :D May 28 06:02:46 _sundar_: it is a sport here :) May 28 06:03:14 0.08 BAC here May 28 06:03:29 which is about 4 beers for the average male May 28 06:03:43 with practice of course May 28 06:03:55 <_sundar_> yeah with practice lol May 28 06:04:03 * panto kicks mranostay May 28 06:04:07 should be back to the old 0.1 BAC May 28 06:04:57 _sundar_: yeah i've drunk driven compared to most of the world standards May 28 06:05:12 <_sundar_> and never got caught? May 28 06:05:25 _sundar_: yes and it was legal here :) May 28 06:05:50 <_sundar_> what about now? May 28 06:06:05 <_sundar_> made illegal now? May 28 06:06:20 _sundar_: 0.08% BAC May 28 06:06:49 <_sundar_> hmm well you've got a threshold there. there is nothing like that here May 28 06:07:17 we have zero real public transit that is why May 28 06:08:08 outside of SF, NYC, Philly, and Seattle you can forget about it May 28 06:16:59 <_sundar_> its a monday! May 28 06:17:03 <_sundar_> :( May 28 06:28:07 it's a holiday! May 28 06:33:22 <_sundar_> lkesteloot, lucky you.. May 28 06:45:09 _troll_: in HK i see? May 28 07:26:26 <_troll_> mranostay: yes, I'm in HK May 28 07:29:44 <_av500__> _troll_: found your camera shop yet? May 28 07:36:16 what is the meaning of 'denzil' in git branch? May 28 07:38:33 <_troll_> _av500__: no time for such things yet May 28 07:43:38 <_av500__> all work and no play... May 28 07:43:56 <_troll_> for certain values of work May 28 09:00:21 * mranostay too drunk to care what denzil means May 28 09:00:41 yah us holiday! May 28 09:00:52 <_av500__> holiday in the US? May 28 09:01:06 <_av500__> does that count against your 10 days of vacation? May 28 09:01:51 <_av500__> of which you can take 5 at most or you are fired May 28 09:04:03 heh May 28 09:04:38 i have 15 days vacation and taking every single one :) May 28 09:04:44 <_troll_> twice May 28 09:05:04 <_av500__> mranostay: no wonder china is eating you lunch May 28 09:05:07 <_av500__> slacker! May 28 09:07:01 <-- doesn't care :) May 28 09:07:43 well the real mru May 28 09:37:30 i think i've put something wrong with git command :) now i have no space on hdd :) i see on my openembedded i have to branch master and denzil is correct? May 28 11:28:11 I follow the same steps on http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/ for the installation but I get the following output May 28 11:28:28 http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/ May 28 11:28:41 root@ubuntu:~/Downloads# xz -dkc Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.05-beaglebone-2012.05.09.img.xz > /dev/mmcblk0p1 May 28 11:28:41 xz: (stdout): Write error: No space left on device May 28 11:28:54 can anyone tell me what I should do? May 28 11:29:28 /dev/mmcblk0p1 is a partition. May 28 11:29:38 and you have an image... May 28 11:29:46 yes SD card has two partitions p1 and p2 May 28 11:29:48 you need to write to /dev/sdb or something. May 28 11:32:18 I directly insert the SD card on my laptop, as I know sdX is assigned if I use usb adapter and mmcb for SD driver May 28 11:32:21 on ubuntu May 28 11:32:50 "fdisk - l" shows me that the SD cards are mmcblk0p1 and mmcblk0p2 May 28 11:33:06 ok, so your p1 partition is fat, and your p2 partition should be ext3. partition 2 will be where you put the rootfs. May 28 11:34:05 but once you use xz, it will copy the angstrom.img file to the partition, from what I understand. May 28 11:34:25 So therefore the bbone won't boot, because it will find that file, and not a filesystem. May 28 11:35:38 infact, it even says to do it with /dev/sdX on the tutorial you have been using. May 28 11:36:47 yes I don't know it shows only sdX on the tutorial May 28 11:36:51 could you take a look at http://pastebin.com/9NF7SeNR May 28 11:36:57 it is the output of fdisk May 28 11:37:32 I guess mmcblk0p1 and mmcblk0p2 are the SD card May 28 11:37:49 if you could pastebin output of 'mount' May 28 11:37:52 that would be better May 28 11:39:59 The confusion for you here is that, the img you have is a copy of an entire mmc card, bit for bit. That includes all the partition information. May 28 11:40:06 http://pastebin.com/GgjiAdpW May 28 11:40:15 And you are trying to write all that information to 1 partition. May 28 11:41:07 I though it is just one line code since it is the easy way. so should I format the SD card first then make it one partition? May 28 11:42:41 no, don't worry about making any partitions. May 28 11:42:56 that information is included in the .img.xz file that you have. May 28 11:43:14 should I follow the instruction of "hard way" May 28 11:43:59 no May 28 11:45:07 can you tell me shortly how I should proceed? May 28 11:45:32 yeah, give me a secon.d May 28 11:45:46 ok :) May 28 11:49:08 xz -dkc Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.05-beaglebone-2012.05.09.img.xz > /dev/mmcblk0 May 28 11:49:11 that should work May 28 11:51:19 I executed that line there is no output yet. I guess it is working, thank you very much May 28 11:52:30 It should take a while, possibly 20 minutes or more. May 28 11:52:59 Once that is done, successfully, you should be able to place the card in the bb and boot. May 28 11:53:01 I just see a blank cursor as an output, do I suppose to see any output during the process? May 28 11:53:08 nope. May 28 11:53:14 ok thank you very much May 28 11:53:18 npp May 28 11:53:19 for your help and time May 28 12:03:22 Hi, i am trying to convert the usb otg port of beagle bone to work in host mode. i have shorted the pins 4 and 5, but no sucess. has any one tried and succeded May 28 12:04:46 bsreeks, is it enumerating at all? May 28 12:07:05 it doesnt seem to be enumrating. i connected a USB data card to the otg port. May 28 12:07:30 i cant find the data card listed in lsusb May 28 12:07:37 Have you had it working in device mode? May 28 12:09:23 yes it works in device mode, the boot partion of sd card gets mounted on the host PC. also able to use it as serial thru minicom May 28 12:12:07 Do you have a powered hub? May 28 12:14:03 no i donot have a powered hub May 28 12:14:18 What kernel are you running? May 28 12:14:57 3.2.0-psp6 May 28 12:15:24 My guess would be that there isn't enough power going to the device. May 28 12:16:10 ok, i will try to get a powerd hub and try. Thanks niro May 28 12:16:31 np, let me know if it works May 28 13:13:42 I inserted a USB stick on beaglebone that runs angstroms dist. how can I access the directories in the USB stick? May 28 13:14:48 angs, did the mmc work? May 28 13:15:03 yes, thank you very much for it May 28 13:15:14 np May 28 13:15:46 I would like to install a driver for a usb wireless adapter, I copied the installation files in a usb stick, but I couldnt figure out how to access the directories of usb stick May 28 13:16:22 I check /media but could not see anything May 28 13:16:29 *checked May 28 13:17:02 do you know how I can access to the usb stick's directories? May 28 13:18:36 It needs to be mounted. May 28 13:19:24 But you need to find out what dev file it has created, if any. May 28 13:21:02 how can I do it? I can not see any another dev on "fdisk -l" May 28 13:21:30 all the device files are in /dev May 28 13:22:01 type lsusb May 28 13:22:56 actually, type usb-devices if it has it May 28 13:23:57 usb-devices > http://pastebin.com/N54iejbR May 28 13:24:43 lsusb > http://pastebin.com/8hvmLqdj May 28 13:25:37 ok, so it has registered the usb device, which is good news. May 28 13:27:51 does it mean that it is already mounted? May 28 13:28:45 no, that just means that the usb has managed to see the device May 28 13:32:04 so, I need to find the dev name then mount it, right? May 28 13:32:17 yeah, type dmesg May 28 13:33:22 dmesg > http://pastebin.com/Gk5BrKQS May 28 13:36:08 angs, have you rebooted since you tried this? May 28 13:37:09 no, I just formatted the SD card as you said before, then inserted it on bone then powered up May 28 13:37:15 should I reboot? May 28 13:37:21 should I reboot it? May 28 13:37:36 try modprobe usb-storage May 28 13:37:44 and then take the usb out and put it back in. May 28 13:38:20 root@beaglebone:/# modprobe usb-storage May 28 13:38:20 FATAL: Module usb_storage not found. May 28 13:40:02 type lsmod May 28 13:40:05 I get the same output whenever the usb stick is plugged or not May 28 13:40:31 http://pastebin.com/j3j8sXfP May 28 13:42:31 I don't have a beaglebone btw, so I'm not 100% sure on the hardware. But is it just usb otg? May 28 13:43:57 let me check May 28 13:44:47 it says usb 2.0 only May 28 13:48:34 do you have a powered hub? May 28 13:49:35 what driver for touchscreen is need for ulcd7? May 28 13:50:55 is it usb hub? May 28 13:51:08 I dont have any usb hub May 28 13:51:58 I power the beaglebone by 5V-1A power supply. May 28 14:04:20 jkridner_: thanks for the bonescript merges! May 28 14:04:41 sure. easy enough to do. May 28 14:04:46 even on a holiday May 28 14:06:16 i'm using ulcd7 on beagleboard xM, the lcd works well but i can't understand what is the dev/input for touchscreen. What driver of kernal i have to load? May 28 14:07:38 /dev/input/touchscreen0 May 28 14:08:10 koen: there isn't dev/input/touchscreen0 May 28 14:11:12 jkridner_: what's the trick to get access to the socket in loop() ? May 28 14:11:20 jkridner_: or rather, all sockets :) May 28 14:13:24 angs, I think you might have better luck with a hub. May 28 14:14:17 jkridner_: I'm going to selecting revert the PSP usb "fixes" tomorrow to see if I can get mass storage working again May 28 14:15:48 actually, angs, can you ls -l /dev/scsi0 May 28 14:16:43 ls: cannot access /dev/scsi0: No such file or directory May 28 14:16:55 is the usb stick plugged in? May 28 14:17:42 yes, it is plugged and it works fine on ubuntu May 28 14:18:08 I mean, is it plugged into the beagle? May 28 14:18:21 yes, it is plugged into the bone May 28 14:18:41 ok, unplug it and then plug it back in, and then type dmesg May 28 14:19:47 http://pastebin.com/tQCqCass May 28 14:20:13 ok, type ls -l /dev/scsi3 May 28 14:20:59 ls: cannot access /dev/scsi3: No such file or directory May 28 14:21:19 ok, type find /dev -iname scsi3 May 28 14:21:54 it does not give any output May 28 14:22:04 neither error May 28 14:22:19 try, find /dev/ -iname scs* May 28 14:23:11 no output again May 28 14:26:20 koen: I'd think you'd connect to sockets in setup, not loop. May 28 14:26:31 but, I hadn't tried to expose them to user programs yet. May 28 14:26:49 how are you planning on using them? May 28 14:32:04 koen, sorry for the OT, we can move in pvt messages if you like.. but you seemed to be able to compile a working 3.x linux kernel on hx4700, and I'd need a little help there.. May 28 14:32:16 angs, type ls -l /sys/block/ May 28 14:33:33 http://pastebin.com/Qaa9y3Jh May 28 14:34:18 koen: rather than add new functions, my plan is to expand getPinMode to include reading back the GPIO/PWM/etc. state of the pin. May 28 14:34:53 is that the whole output? May 28 14:34:57 yes May 28 14:35:02 ls -l > http://pastebin.com/QV1VPisK May 28 14:38:01 ls -l /dev/block/ May 28 14:38:54 http://pastebin.com/vX2x4L5E May 28 14:39:17 btw, I did the instruction here : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udev#Auto_mounting_USB_devices May 28 14:40:06 /etc/udev/rules.d/11-media-by-label-auto-mount.rules was empty and copied the commands on the webpage into that file May 28 14:40:28 unplugged, and plugged again, but I cannot see any change in dmesg May 28 14:40:37 It's not even getting that far, to be honest. May 28 14:41:36 Lol, you probably just don't have the usb-storage driver May 28 14:42:20 find /lib/modules/ -iname usb-storage May 28 14:42:46 find /lib/modules/ -iname usb-storage* May 28 14:43:21 http://pastebin.com/5esqFiSF May 28 14:43:40 which kernel are you running? May 28 14:44:01 btw, that's on your desktop, not the bb May 28 14:44:13 for me 3.2.16 with ulcd7 touchscreen don't work May 28 14:44:59 sorry my ssh was disconnected when I typed the previous code May 28 14:45:04 it was output of ubuntu May 28 14:45:59 there is no output for "find /lib/modules/ -iname usb-storage*" May 28 14:46:22 Linux beaglebone 3.2.16 #1 Wed May 9 11:28:21 CEST 2012 armv7l GNU/Linux May 28 14:47:35 I would say that you don't have the driver installed then. May 28 14:48:07 do you know what package do I need to install for it? May 28 14:50:17 You would need to compile the module for your kernel version. May 28 14:51:46 how can I do it? May 28 14:52:32 opkg update - upgrade? May 28 14:54:06 do an ls /lib/modules for me May 28 14:54:49 3.2.16 May 28 14:55:10 ok, and then do, ls /lib/modules/3.2.16/ May 28 14:56:43 http://pastecode.com/JP May 28 14:57:40 sorry, ls /lib/modules/3.2.16/kernel/drivers/ May 28 14:57:50 is there something that play with ulcd7 and bb xM 3.2.16? May 28 14:57:55 I'm too used to hitting tab, that I don't remember the directory names. May 28 14:58:20 stuk_gen, what do you mean? May 28 14:58:24 http://pastecode.com/JQ May 28 14:58:52 niro: i'm connect a ulcd7 on my bb xM with kernel 3.2.16, the lcd works well but the touch don't work May 28 14:59:14 sorry, ls /lib/modules/3.2.16/kernel/drivers/usb/storage/ May 28 14:59:15 niro: i can't see any touchscreeen in /dev/input May 28 15:01:11 ls /lib/modules/3.2.16/kernel/drivers/usb > "gadget", "serial", "misc" May 28 15:02:17 Well, you definately don't have the drivers for it then. May 28 15:02:24 And May 28 15:04:16 stuk_gen: the touchscreen works fine on the ulcd 7 over here with c5 and xm May 28 15:04:28 koen: what driver i need? May 28 15:04:46 koen: i haven't touchscreen0 in /dev/input May 28 15:05:04 I installed a recent angstrom image and it just worked May 28 15:05:15 angs, I think you'll need to get a copy of the kernel and cross compile the driver if you want to get it to work. May 28 15:05:33 angs, I have to go now, sorry. May 28 15:05:44 ok thank you very very much for your helps May 28 15:05:49 have a good day May 28 15:05:49 koen: i'm build a systemd-GNOME-image from oe but haven't touchscreen May 28 15:06:04 ty, I hope you can resolve it. May 28 15:06:19 I will try, thanks a lot, I could not figure the problem out without your help May 28 15:06:44 angs, ofcourse, the other way you could copy the wireless installation files over is over scp May 28 15:06:46 koen: the only touch message is Beagle second expansionboard: initializing touchscreen: tsc2007 May 28 15:06:55 it should be the easiest way May 28 15:06:57 If you have the ethernet plugged in. May 28 15:07:18 yes I will copy the drivers like that, thanks a looot again May 28 15:07:23 np May 28 15:07:32 wish you a good day May 28 15:08:31 koen: i have to set up something on uEnv.txt? May 28 15:15:07 koen: if you said the touchscreen works...i have a break lcd touch -.- May 28 15:53:13 Hi Guys, I am tring to build rootfs for beagleboard using "MACHINE=beagleboard ./oebb.sh bitbake systemd-gnome-image" and I am getting "ERROR: Error executing a python function in /stuff/angstrom/setup-scripts/sources/openembedded-core/meta/recipes-extended/pam/libpam_1.1.5.bb: IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/stuff/angstrom/setup-scripts/sources/openembedded-core/meta/recipes-extended/pam/libpam/./pam.d/*'" May 28 15:53:25 Can you please help me. May 28 15:56:52 <_av500__> and do you have that folder? May 28 17:16:05 how to turn on the SPI of beagleboard ???? May 28 17:21:19 any idea about how to turn on the SPI of beagleboard ???? May 28 17:30:23 any idea about how to turn on the SPI of beagleboard ???? May 28 17:33:12 keep asking every 5 minutes until somebody answers May 28 17:34:43 mru: encourage him more? May 28 17:35:17 <_troll_> sorry, wrong window May 28 17:35:46 mru: hh, why nobody replies? how strange !! May 28 17:36:09 hiwaeng: privately message everyone asking the question May 28 17:36:20 noone listens here in public chat May 28 17:36:51 <_troll_> arcanescu: you said something about encouraging... May 28 17:37:04 _troll_: sorry wrong window May 28 17:37:10 it was meant for someone else O_o May 28 17:37:34 i cudnt resist the mischeif May 28 17:37:48 oh, what I said was meant _from_ someone else May 28 17:38:17 pin the tail on the donkey May 28 17:39:19 hiwaeng: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/SPI May 28 17:39:34 first google result May 28 17:39:42 hiwaeng: googling "spi beagleboard" brings up tons of results. This one looks really useful: http://www.brianhensley.net/2012/02/python-controlling-spi-bus-on.html May 28 17:41:10 the equivalent of googling is "binging" May 28 17:41:18 doesnt sound right though May 28 17:42:50 <_troll_> arcanescu: as in http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/binge ? May 28 17:44:34 _troll_: thats a good way of looking at it but i meant : http://www.bing.com/ May 28 17:44:43 it even has a tv advert May 28 17:45:20 <_troll_> in the uk they have tv adverts *against* bing(e)ing May 28 17:45:37 in Salford they dont May 28 17:46:20 here Binging is encouraged May 28 17:46:32 before saying a word May 28 17:46:45 did i say salford? i meant Sunny Salford May 28 17:49:51 javaJake: I did that in a correct way, and the driver of spi has been installed on my beagleboard. but when I run the sample example of spi, I get ZERO always May 28 17:54:12 arcanescu: I did that in a correct way, and the driver of spi has been installed on my beagleboard. but when I run the sample example of spi, I get ZERO always May 28 17:54:57 I execute "root@beaglebone:~/tempdir/driver# ./make_drv" and get the following output "-sh: ./make_drv: Permission denied" how can I get permission to execute that command? May 28 18:11:06 it appears usbhid kernel modules were not included in my last beagleboard systemd-gnome-image -- that is why they were not working in X May 28 18:11:13 * cbrake builds the latest ... May 28 18:14:33 I would wonder if they would work outside X May 28 18:15:11 kernel does not care about X May 28 18:19:07 angs: set execute bit or try "bash make_drv" May 28 18:20:51 thanks jay6981 May 28 18:46:42 I am trying to install an usb wireless adapter that has realtek 8188cus chipset. When I execute the installation file, I get error related "make", what should I do? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1011756/ May 28 18:56:03 jkridner: https://github.com/koenkooi/bonescript/commit/d86d8ad3c1d2069096cf8e4471861bbc0fbca631 May 28 19:12:11 anyone? May 28 19:19:36 koen: *bang* :) May 28 19:43:13 <_av500__> koen: whoa, arm-netbook is in full drama mode now May 28 19:48:47 _av500__: what kind of drama exactly? May 28 20:13:52 koen: haha, nice May 28 20:14:43 javaJake: hi May 28 20:16:25 mranostay: probably the kind where it gets out of bed. yells alot and stomps around. May 28 20:16:38 O:-) May 28 20:41:44 ccssnet: hello May 28 23:29:56 Good evening. May 28 23:35:42 Finally got my cloud9-image compiled and running on my Beaglebone. Also got my little rtl8192cu USB wifi adapter working May 28 23:36:37 The power save feature seems to make it wicked slow though May 28 23:39:59 riskable how did you make rtl8192cu work? May 28 23:40:29 Ultimately, a newer kernel May 28 23:40:58 I got the realtek driver (8192cu) compiled and installed but I couldn't get the 'iw' command to work with it May 28 23:41:43 ...but after I got my bitbake issue squared away I was able to compile a new image and it appears to actually work with the built-in rtl8192cu driver May 28 23:42:15 I had to copy over the uImage to the BEAGLE_BONE partition May 28 23:43:48 did you follow any instruction somewhere? May 28 23:44:12 I am having the same problem, I would appreciate if you can suggest me any document that u used May 28 23:44:39 and if you could explain a little bit more about "squared away" I could not understand that part May 28 23:46:14 Well, I could not get cloud9-image to compile until I disabled apparmor complete on one of my ubuntu boxes. May 28 23:46:29 /etc/init.d/apparmor teardown May 28 23:46:57 Once that was done I got the cloud9-image to compile and I also compiled the kernel separately using 'bitbake virtual/kernel' which created the uImage that finally worked May 28 23:47:10 I get a lot of packet loss though May 28 23:47:50 I think it is because of power save mode though... I get loads of lines in dmesg like this: [10783.183715] rtw_set_ps_mode(): Enter 802.11 power save mode... May 28 23:47:57 ...and they seem to correspond with the packet loss May 28 23:48:20 I installed wireless-tools since the 'iw' command gives me "command failed: No such device (-19)" whenever I try to use it May 28 23:48:54 Oh, actually, looking at the output of lsmod right now it appears I'm using the 8192cu driver that I compiled May 28 23:48:59 So forget it :) May 28 23:49:15 I followed the instructions here for that: http://embeddedgeeks.wordpress.com/2012/01/03/belkin-micro-wifi-usb-dongle-on-the-beagleboard/ May 28 23:50:12 I'm going to recompile it with the power saving feature disabled and see if that helps May 28 23:50:43 have you ever had anything like this on dmesg "[ 1439.432708] rtlwifi: Unknown symbol ieee80211_start_tx_ba_cb_irqsafe (err 0)" May 28 23:51:03 some many "unknown symbol" errors? May 28 23:51:53 Yeah, I got that originally when I was trying to use the wrong kernel May 28 23:52:14 The kernel included in Koen's images is different from what you'd get using the default build process. So you get symbol errors May 28 23:52:16 what kernel are you using now? May 28 23:53:02 It is 3.2.16 but the directory has a funky name: linux-ti33x-psp-3.2-r11l+gitr720e07b4c1f687b61b147b31c698cb6816d72f01 May 28 23:53:44 where did you install it? May 28 23:53:48 download May 28 23:55:37 Here's a tip for building/testing: Don't bother re-making the whole image. Just 'bitbake virtual/kernel -c configure' and then 'bitbake bitbake virtual/kernel -c compile -f' May 28 23:55:53 Then you'll have a proper kernel source directory in your build/tmp*/work dir May 28 23:56:26 I'm going to test out this recompile now and if it works I'll upload my kernel, system image, and everything for you to try it May 28 23:56:29 thanks a lot, I have spent the whole day on it May 28 23:56:36 Hah, so have I! May 28 23:56:45 I only got it working around 4:30 PM EST May 28 23:56:53 I was trying to get it working last night too May 28 23:56:59 what webpage will you upload them? May 28 23:57:13 Oh I dunno yet. I'll probably just throw it up somewhere on riskable.com May 28 23:57:35 I will be looking forward them :) May 28 23:59:19 thank you very much for the tips and thank you in advance for the uploads :) May 28 23:59:40 it is 2am here, I need to sleep now May 28 23:59:43 have a good day May 29 00:05:02 Quick question. May 29 00:05:28 Does the current kernel image for the beaglebone on the debian distro support one wire. May 29 00:05:38 Dang, disabling power management didn't help with the packet loss May 29 00:05:45 KeatonT: Let me check... May 29 00:06:30 1-wire shows up as w1, right? May 29 00:06:41 yep May 29 00:06:48 Then it's there May 29 00:08:22 So as long as I have the w1-gpio connected to P8_6 May 29 00:08:23 w1-gpio connected to P8_6 May 29 00:08:34 That is what I got when I do a dmesg | grep w1 May 29 00:10:51 hi all May 29 00:11:40 Hey there May 29 00:12:12 I'm going to walk down the hall a bit to where my router is and see if it is just this USB wifi adapter's range that is causing the packet loss May 29 00:12:42 (taking my laptop with me =) May 29 00:14:40 Nope, it's just a POS May 29 00:14:53 Even two feet from the router I'm still getting ~50% packet loss May 29 00:48:59 Hi, so question May 29 00:49:07 I see Errata #8 May 29 00:49:23 I don't know if I have the board version that suffers from it May 29 00:49:30 I've got an xM board... May 29 00:49:56 Does the xM suffer from serial Errata #8? May 29 01:08:39 So say I wanted to make a .bb for the Realtek 8192cu wireless USB dongle... Their website is setup specifically so you CANNOT link to the files. However, the license is GPL so I should be able to host it wherever. The question is: Know of any good sites that will host such a thing for free to the public? May 29 01:08:48 ...where I could put it in a wget May 29 01:09:02 Actually, I'll just start a github project and use that May 29 01:09:48 lol May 29 01:14:10 mru: so you mean non-existing modules could work outside X? May 29 01:14:31 aholler_: they'll work as well as they do inside it May 29 01:14:47 Ok so I have a beagleboard xM revision C May 29 01:15:09 I've got an FTDI FT232R USB->Serial breakout board that I'm using. May 29 01:15:12 ah, they don't care for existence May 29 01:15:13 I got good results once May 29 01:15:22 didn't know that May 29 01:15:43 but I couldn't get any tx data. The board version seems to be C, but it acted just like Errata #8..now I get nothing but garbage. May 29 01:15:52 Maybe the problem is levels , but I'm just not sure May 29 01:41:49 Anyone know how to force a wireless adapter to use 802.11g instead of 802.11n May 29 01:41:50 ? May 29 01:48:13 Anyone here? May 29 01:51:01 I'm here May 29 01:51:45 Trying to figure out why my realtek 8192cu USB wifi dongle is getting so much packet loss May 29 01:53:21 hi May 29 01:54:40 I have some libraries I need installed, as well as some settings I want to change, but every time I reboot my beaglebone they're gone. I understand this might be because everything is loaded from sd into ram. is there some way to maintain the contents of the filesystem? would flashing the os into nand help me here? May 29 01:56:46 my worry is that I have to build my own image with the libraries I want, and the configuration I want, and then boot from that on sd (or flash that) and that I'll never be able to have the / filesystem be non volatile May 29 02:06:11 The SD card is non-volatile. The whole SD card isn't written to RAM. Are you familiar with how a Linux system works? May 29 02:07:29 The SD card is like a hard-drive. Only smaller, cuter and solid state. May 29 02:08:28 In other words, whatever you are doing wrong has nothing to do with the hardware. May 29 02:27:57 kaektech: is there some reason what I change on the fs isn't being flushed to sd? May 29 02:28:06 e.g. I reboot and everything is gone **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue May 29 02:59:58 2012