**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 04 02:59:59 2012 Jun 04 03:05:02 Borillion: i assume this directed at for a bone? Jun 04 03:05:20 nah beagleboard xm Jun 04 03:59:04 Anyone had any luck getting the DHT-22 temp and humidity sensor working on the beaglebone? Jun 04 04:06:05 KeatonT: that is one wire right? Jun 04 04:06:18 the bone/am335x has no 1-wire interface Jun 04 04:13:05 mranostay yes it does. Jun 04 04:13:14 but the DHT-22 are not one-wire compatible Jun 04 04:14:35 why not just get a I2C or SPI sensor? Jun 04 04:22:36 have any links Jun 04 04:39:11 found one but it Jun 04 04:39:17 it's really expensive Jun 04 04:39:18 http://www.misenso.com/products/001 Jun 04 04:40:28 well ther are cheap useless ones and the accurate ones Jun 04 04:41:06 lol Jun 04 04:42:39 you could wait till koen comes out his weatherstation cape Jun 04 05:03:51 I'm looking at the board design now. Jun 04 05:04:01 Know much about his weather station cape? Jun 04 05:09:02 Looks like it is more like a half cape Jun 04 05:11:53 yeah not sure that is the final design Jun 04 05:19:12 I'm definitely interested in it. Jun 04 05:49:46 I'm going to get a github setup for my alarm project I'm working on. Jun 04 05:55:00 I'm wanting to design modular boards for the beaglebone. Jun 04 06:07:03 Hello Jun 04 06:07:14 anyone here worked on the RTC for the beagleboard -XM Jun 04 06:07:50 I followed the SRM Jun 04 06:07:59 bought the exact model for the small battery Jun 04 06:08:07 and connected the battery Jun 04 06:08:13 it remembers the time sometimes. Jun 04 06:08:27 but the main problem is that when switched off. it stays at that time. Jun 04 06:08:36 and does not continue in the backgroud Jun 04 06:08:51 e.g. if i switch of the beagle for 4 days. My clock goes back 4 days. Jun 04 06:09:14 also. it sometimes goes back to the original old clock. jun 07 or something. Jun 04 06:35:19 0 Jun 04 06:42:40 ds2: 1 Jun 04 06:52:43 1 Jun 04 09:35:45 hi there.. Jun 04 09:36:32 ive still got trouble using the beagle-xm circuitco .img (shipped with the SD) Jun 04 09:37:30 it boots normally but if i try to login it says: /bin/login: error while loading shared libraries: libpam_misc.so.0: cannot open file: No such file or directory. Jun 04 14:06:07 Does anyone have a Java Code to be loaded on beagleboardxM+Android to access the board power consumption? My beagleboardxM is revision C. Jun 04 14:08:38 you first need something which provides the power consumption datas before you could collect them Jun 04 14:09:20 what is the package name for rmmode? I searched rmmode on http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/ but could not find any result Jun 04 14:14:17 try rmmod Jun 04 14:14:44 thanks aholler Jun 04 14:21:05 What are the differences between BeagleBoard and CraneBoard? Jun 04 14:22:47 nftw: your question is to generic. Look at the specs for each board, then ask more specific questions if you still have one. Jun 04 14:23:13 nftw: you mean, besides being a completely different platform that happens to have roughly comparable peripherals and cpus from the same vendor? Jun 04 14:25:00 LetoThe2nd, that's all I needed. Jun 04 14:25:05 Thanks Jun 04 14:26:38 LetoThe2nd: they are both arm, so they can't be that different ;) Jun 04 14:27:57 Does anyone have (or know where to find) a Java Code to be loaded on beagleboardxM+Android to access the board power consumption? My beagleboardxM is revision C. Jun 04 14:29:33 Marcus_: who says there's even the hardware necessary for measuring power consumption? Jun 04 14:33:39 The BeagleBoardxM has inside two ADC points to access( by i2c) the R11 resistor voltage. This resistor (a 0,1 ohms) is used to calculate the board current consumpition. Jun 04 14:36:41 is there a way to use all cpus with angstrom build oe? i see BB_NUMBER_THREADS but i don't understand where i have to put it Jun 04 14:37:30 Marcus_: where do you have that (by i2c) from? Access points actually means just points on the board Jun 04 14:39:45 There are two pairs of resistors provided on the TPS65950 that measure the voltage on either side of R13. This is done via the I2C control bus to the TPS65950 from the processor. These values along with resistance of R13 are used to calculate the current consumption of the board. Jun 04 14:41:42 Marcus_: well, now you need to find i2c register map for tps65950 Jun 04 14:41:50 Marcus_: and read them Jun 04 14:42:17 and it can't be done in java Jun 04 14:42:28 it has to be done in native code Jun 04 14:42:38 because you have to send some ioctls to read i2c on linux Jun 04 14:43:19 how can I install wpa supplicant 1.0 on beaglebone? wpa_supplicant on http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/ is for 0.7.3.x Jun 04 14:43:37 java has no system("i2cget -f -y 0xsomething") ? Jun 04 14:43:55 and there's a madc driver for those adcs, but I never used it Jun 04 14:44:09 koen: well, that's pretty much what i meant Jun 04 14:44:20 it can't be done in pure java Jun 04 14:49:08 ok found its in setup-script/conf Jun 04 14:49:17 Ok. I will try to use native code in Java Application. Thanks. Jun 04 15:24:16 is it true #android is a silly channel Jun 04 15:25:33 like #camelot? Jun 04 15:25:58 no, like no one there knows anything about android Jun 04 15:26:45 * ogra_ admits he also doesnt know a thing about breeding beagles and is still in #beagle :P Jun 04 15:27:18 I need repo upload to put stuff somewhere other than the offical server Jun 04 15:27:31 ogra_: maybe at least you know about beagling bredies? Jun 04 15:27:33 you would think this would be trivial Jun 04 15:27:35 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a55hIGmMzuE&t=1m09s Jun 04 15:27:39 s/bredies/breedies/ Jun 04 15:27:45 probably #linaro has something that could help you Jun 04 15:28:11 these are the people that sped android up by a factor of two? Jun 04 15:28:38 LetoThe2nd, you mean bageling breeders ? Jun 04 15:28:54 mh... bagels. Jun 04 15:30:04 Crofton|irssi: 30fps -> 60fps sounds a lot like vertical sync limiting Jun 04 15:30:13 e.g. a 59fps -> 61fps change will have the same effect Jun 04 15:30:20 koen: you sound like _av500_ Jun 04 15:30:42 thank you, I try very hard to do that Jun 04 15:31:04 hehe Jun 04 15:31:38 rofl, Linaro 12.04 is released Jun 04 15:32:12 just FYI, for any one interested in an of the TinCanTools beagle accessories: TCT is not making any new production of beagle accessories, so if you want something, now is the time to get it Jun 04 15:34:52 Crofton|irssi, whats the funny part about that ? Jun 04 15:35:09 12.05 should be released too yet Jun 04 15:35:23 it is sort of like saying Yocto 1.3 Jun 04 15:35:34 they do a release everymonth Jun 04 15:36:34 I am trying to sort out how you talk about umbrella like projects Jun 04 15:37:20 saying "Umbrella release x.y" doesn't help people understand the umbrealla concept Jun 04 15:38:46 why do they express desires and not the reality? Jun 04 15:39:11 aholler: managers :) Jun 04 15:39:50 the managed to make the release names meaningless? Jun 04 15:41:13 <_av500_> aholler: ubuntu managed to make them ridiculous Jun 04 15:41:20 thats true Jun 04 15:41:57 <_av500_> and it goes wll with meaningless Jun 04 15:41:59 I've always thought that "releases" of Source Based tools was kind of "odd" Jun 04 15:42:07 but using yy.mm when it doesn't have a meaning is stupid. Just using increasing numbers would make more sense Jun 04 15:42:10 <_av500_> ka6sox: ubutnu is not source based Jun 04 15:42:18 av500, yup Jun 04 15:42:50 <_av500_> ka6sox: it is a bit as long they are still linux based Jun 04 15:45:20 _av500_: is there an easy way to make repo upload send stuff to a local server? Jun 04 15:45:41 <_av500_> Crofton|irssi: no idea Jun 04 15:45:53 <_av500_> we dont use gerrit Jun 04 15:45:54 btw. I think debian started using names instead of numbers, not ubuntu. ;) Jun 04 15:45:56 * Crofton|irssi has pretty much concluded there are only a few useful irc channels Jun 04 15:46:11 this one and #oe, and a few others Jun 04 15:46:15 <_av500_> Crofton|irssi: so we repo sync and git push Jun 04 15:46:37 <_av500_> code review is for whimps Jun 04 15:46:39 so push inside the project you change Jun 04 15:46:57 and do not mess qith repo Jun 04 15:47:16 <_av500_> yes Jun 04 15:47:38 thanks Jun 04 15:47:40 just push to reviewers repos for code review, or let them pull Jun 04 15:49:07 review is not an issue here, just trying to keep track of some peoples hacking :) Jun 04 15:49:34 <_av500_> Crofton|irssi: that whole repo concept is around changesets that are reviewed Jun 04 15:49:41 <_av500_> which is nice for aosp etc Jun 04 15:49:53 <_av500_> but for meeting a deadline, just push away :) **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 04 15:56:03 2012 Jun 04 16:08:43 #linux-omap Jun 04 16:34:42 <_av500_> +1 Jun 04 16:41:18 koen, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/beagleboard/w6twBVOpbA4/EFCc9VPL_-0J "The angstrom kernels (2.6.32 and 2.6.37) recalculate bogomips when switching frequencies...." Jun 04 16:41:33 any clue where the easiest place to find that patch is? Jun 04 16:46:43 What's the process once a patch is submitted to openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org? I submitted a tiny little patch to fix numpy's dependencies and it is just sitting there with no feedback Jun 04 16:47:16 Here's the patch: http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/29089/ Jun 04 16:48:11 The OpenEmbedded wiki kind of just end with the instructions at the point where you submit it Jun 04 16:48:47 I'm prepping a patch to add matplotlib to OE but before I submit it I want to make sure I'm doing this right Jun 04 16:50:08 riskable: I'll double check the status Jun 04 16:50:14 Crofton|irssi: Thanks! Jun 04 16:50:38 how easy will matplotlib be? Jun 04 16:50:53 It is a single .bb plus two patch files Jun 04 16:51:22 (it has been tested and works great) Jun 04 16:52:01 I have only tested it on the Beaglebone but I didn't put any platform-specific changes in. It should work for all platforms supported by OE Jun 04 16:52:33 cool Jun 04 16:54:03 I suspect those missin gin numpy are why I added those packages as DEPENDDS for gnuradio :) Jun 04 16:54:55 Yeah, if you just build & install numpy it won't work by itself. "import numpy" will fail Jun 04 16:55:33 dependency chains are a bitch Jun 04 16:55:52 is there anyone using rtl8192cu on beaglebone without any problem? Jun 04 16:56:49 rofl, I thought I was in #oe Jun 04 17:02:27 I'm using regulary an *su Jun 04 17:04:53 Russ: it's patch from sanjeev, let me look Jun 04 17:05:40 riskable: read the README of the respective layers you're sending patches to Jun 04 17:06:03 riskable: yours doesn't show up in http://patches.openembedded.org/project/oe/list/?q=meta-oe Jun 04 17:06:23 test locally, then buyild on machine there and update the feeds Jun 04 17:06:40 koen, it made it into pw, which is a good sign :) Jun 04 17:06:51 Russ: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-omap@vger.kernel.org/msg51485.html Jun 04 17:08:24 koen: So I sent my patch to the wrong layer? Jun 04 17:08:50 koen, thanks Jun 04 17:09:18 riskable: as I recall we would like the commit message to start with the recipe name Jun 04 17:09:41 so prepend python-numpy: to the beginning of the commit message Jun 04 17:09:42 Crofton|irssi: That's not a problem. I can resubmit Jun 04 17:09:57 grr Jun 04 17:10:03 ah Jun 04 17:10:11 ok, was stuck in scroll back :) Jun 04 17:10:22 If you resubmit, I'll ack Jun 04 17:10:35 need to check if we have a current commit message policy around Jun 04 17:11:47 Yeah, that should be added to this wiki page (which I followed to the letter =): http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/How_to_submit_a_patch_to_OpenEmbedded Jun 04 17:12:32 Should I mark the existing patch as rejected? Jun 04 17:12:41 something like that Jun 04 17:12:54 rejected is kind of arsh :) Jun 04 17:13:15 OK, I changed it to "Changes Requested" :) Jun 04 17:13:26 yes Jun 04 17:15:09 riskable: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/Commit_log_example Jun 04 17:15:34 Ahh, that's very helpful Jun 04 17:18:06 Just sent it Jun 04 17:18:28 ok, I will read it when I get homer Jun 04 17:20:22 Who's Homer? ;) Jun 04 17:20:24 Hi guys, I'm using a angstrom image and can't play video with gst-launch. I watch only a blue screen, any idea? Jun 04 17:21:24 When submitting a patch should I set the --subject-prefix="PATCH "? Jun 04 17:22:05 in this case [meta-oe} I think Jun 04 17:22:09 gst-launch -v filesrc location=big_buck_bunny_480p_surround-fix.avi ! avidemux ! queue ! TIViddec2 ! omapdmaifbsink Jun 04 17:22:11 riskable: that's in the README Jun 04 17:22:19 koen: Which README? Jun 04 17:22:30 the one in the layer you're editing Jun 04 17:22:35 that's ok? Jun 04 17:22:41 I see it now... Jun 04 17:22:43 the layer README, wlthough I think it is buggy :) Jun 04 17:23:02 I'll submit this one last time... Hopefully I'll get it right this time :) Jun 04 17:25:44 Should the subject *literally* be 'PATCH [meta-oe]' or just 'PATCH meta-oe'? The system seems to have automatically modified my "PATCH v2" to be "PATCH [v2]" Jun 04 17:25:57 hello, somebody can help me? Jun 04 17:26:20 riskable: there's a git-send-email line in the README Jun 04 17:26:54 All it says is: "Send pull requests to openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org with '[meta-oe]' in the subject'" Jun 04 17:27:20 don't you need to [meta-oe] in the format-patch command? Jun 04 17:27:21 ...which I assume translates to --subject-prefix="PATCH [meta-oe]" Jun 04 17:27:25 angstrom demo image is working fine? Jun 04 17:28:09 This is what I've got: git format-patch --subject-prefix="PATCH [meta-oe] v3" -1 Jun 04 17:28:48 I'm guessing it'll show up in patchwork like this: '[[meta-oe] v3]' Jun 04 17:31:06 When sending single patches, please use something like 'git send-email -1 --to openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org --subject-prefix=meta-oe][PATCH' Jun 04 17:31:15 that's in the README Jun 04 17:31:57 greetings. without using a USB-to-Ethernet adapter, is there an easy way to add a second ethernet port to the beagleboard? Jun 04 17:33:06 That is completely different than what's in the wiki... But I just used it Jun 04 17:33:30 VadtecWk: you can a enc28j60 or the micrell chipset via the spi interface Jun 04 17:33:35 VadtecWk: both are well supported Jun 04 17:33:58 Ahh, that looks right (in Patchwork) Jun 04 17:34:05 i assume you meant "you can add a ..." Jun 04 17:34:14 Hi Jun 04 17:34:20 gst-launch -v filesrc location=big_buck_bunny_480p_surround-fix.avi ! avidemux ! queue ! TIViddec2 ! omapdmaifbsink Jun 04 17:34:21 VadtecWk: yea Jun 04 17:34:35 So I don't need to run 'git format-patch' when using the method described in the wiki? Jun 04 17:34:41 that line is ok? Jun 04 17:35:05 prpplague: my soldering skills arent the greatest, does either of those by chance come in a simple to use "plug it in" kit? Jun 04 17:35:21 Question: Can I overwrite the rootfs partition of ubuntu for BB-xM with the rootfs of angstrom without touching the boot partition? Jun 04 17:35:24 I mean 'the method described in the README' Jun 04 17:35:32 VadtecWk: not for the xM Jun 04 17:36:02 hehe, techincally no longer for the regular beagle either, hehe Jun 04 17:36:14 VadtecWk: Just use some patch wires and a prototyping breadboard Jun 04 17:36:40 i need something that will fit in a nice enclosure Jun 04 17:37:02 Does anybody know the answer to my question? Jun 04 17:37:11 im wanting to turn a beagleboard into a firewall appliance, need two NICs for it Jun 04 17:37:36 Can I just replace the rootfs of ubuntu for BBxM with the rootfs of the angstrom demo image? Jun 04 17:37:39 Azertify: yes Jun 04 17:37:57 Thanks ^_^ Jun 04 17:38:17 VadtecWk: Oh, in that case--if you don't want to solder--use wire wrap wire and a wire wrap tool Jun 04 17:38:18 but u will need the kernel modules Jun 04 17:38:35 What? Jun 04 17:38:45 VadtecWk: You can wrap a wire right around the post and it'll be super-strong. No soldering required Jun 04 17:38:46 riskable: i have no aversion to soldering other than my skills are basic Jun 04 17:39:12 what is the version of ur kernel? Jun 04 17:39:13 the last time i seriously soldered anything was 10-12 yrs ago in high school Jun 04 17:39:15 :P Jun 04 17:39:24 I've used it in the past when cramming components into odd-shaped containers Jun 04 17:39:41 Tholm: I didn't check, let me have a look. Jun 04 17:40:27 For example, I made an RFID cloner (Arduino) with all the components placed inside an acrylic tube that had an RFID antenna on the outside of it (wrapped around the tube). Wire wrap was pretty much the only way to get it all in there without risking melting something :) Jun 04 17:41:04 VadtecWk: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/765 , http://www.elinux.org/Hammer_How_to_Enc28j60 Jun 04 17:41:19 tholm: 3.2.16 Jun 04 17:41:32 oh, thanks prpplague Jun 04 17:41:32 VadtecWk: Well, the solution to that is to practice. Buy a bunch of blinking LED kits for a few bucks and go to town for an hour or two :) Jun 04 17:42:26 VadtecWk: Also, if you want to use the wire wrap method: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/68 + http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8030 Jun 04 17:42:59 ok copy your modules in the rootfs partition (angstrom) Jun 04 17:43:17 riskable: thanks Jun 04 17:43:19 /lib/modules/3.2.16 Jun 04 17:43:28 My next question answered. Jun 04 17:43:31 Thanks ever so much Jun 04 17:43:32 There's videos on Youtube that explain how to do wire wrapping :) Jun 04 17:43:55 np Jun 04 17:44:09 riskable: im familiar with wire wrapping...just havent done it in a while lol Jun 04 17:44:36 riskable: at the risk of sounding silly...where does the pins of the enc28j60 connect on the BB? Jun 04 17:44:52 VadtecWk: I have no idea :) Jun 04 17:44:55 koen: can you tell me if working fine gst-lunch on angstrom demo image? Jun 04 17:44:57 Oh, it's 3.2.16x11, if that matters at all. Jun 04 17:45:02 haha, fair nuff Jun 04 17:45:12 yep Jun 04 17:45:28 It does matter? Jun 04 17:45:29 copy that folder Jun 04 17:45:35 Oh Jun 04 17:45:44 Okay Jun 04 17:46:19 ah, it requires the expansion board Jun 04 17:47:14 VadtecWk: connection to the expansion header on the beagle Jun 04 17:47:21 VadtecWk: no need for an expansion board Jun 04 17:47:32 VadtecWk: unless you want the extra soldering area Jun 04 17:47:56 dsplink or dspbridge? which is better? Jun 04 17:48:04 prpplague: so I can simply match the pins on the enc28j60 to the right pins on the expansion slot, correct? Jun 04 17:48:38 VadtecWk: no you'd need some level shifters Jun 04 17:49:15 erm...dur...lol Jun 04 17:52:03 somebody is working with DSP on BB-xm? Jun 04 17:53:55 prpplague: riskable: thanks for the info, ill have to research this later Jun 04 18:13:24 Hmmmm Jun 04 18:19:50 I'm getting "can't open 'etc/dev.tar': Read-only file system" errors on boot, I guess I need to enable write on it too somehow Jun 04 18:21:16 Should I change the whole board to 755? Jun 04 18:21:25 The rootfs, that is. Jun 04 18:39:56 hmm, 3.4.1 booted a bit more. I now see my ehci-storage. ;) but there still seems to be a problem as it died here while waiting for udev to complete Jun 04 19:03:07 how can I uninstall connman? Jun 04 19:04:54 i am pretty sure a lot of people are asking that about bernie madoff Jun 04 19:05:23 createneighborhood --type seedy Jun 04 19:06:22 hehe Jun 04 19:06:54 ? Jun 04 19:11:51 prpplague: uninstall == drag in street? :) Jun 04 19:41:10 Azertify: you're running an ancient rootfs, better fix that first Jun 04 19:46:30 I've Ubuntu installed on BB and would like to chroot into the SD card being used. How can I chroot? Jun 04 19:48:50 is BB beaglebone or beagleboard these days ? Jun 04 19:49:29 will lcd7 work on the 'old' beaglebone rev? Jun 04 19:50:53 xxiao: try and find out Jun 04 19:51:11 xxiao: BB =beaglebone BBD-beaglebone's daddy BBDX == beaglebone's crazy step daddy Jun 04 19:51:42 bone daddy's Jun 04 19:51:52 hehe Jun 04 19:51:59 * prpplague wondered if koen would comment Jun 04 19:52:18 beagleboard should be beaglebody to make for beaglebone Jun 04 20:05:52 koen, ahh yes, just had lunch there Jun 04 20:06:27 slightly creepy that some people know all the waitresses by name and have a good idea of their shift schedule Jun 04 20:06:35 but hey, I'm not complaining Jun 04 20:06:50 I was just there to watch the Scripps spelling bee finals Jun 04 20:07:27 koen, that would be mranostay, if he lived there, btw. ;) Jun 04 20:11:02 BB is a woman who likes cats Jun 04 20:42:36 <_av500_> koen: even I have been to that place Jun 04 20:42:44 <_av500_> TI people took us there Jun 04 22:10:36 anybody around Jun 04 22:10:42 i've got a problem with wget/ipkg Jun 04 22:10:52 i can't do ipkg update Jun 04 22:10:59 ip connection working? Jun 04 22:11:10 because i'm hitting this bug Jun 04 22:11:10 http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?31653 Jun 04 22:22:15 I just read that Columbia U has implemented KVM support for Cortex-A15. OMAP5 Beagle in Q3 2012? Jun 04 22:29:43 don't think so Jun 04 22:30:50 Almost certainly not, since OMAP5 isn't even out until Q3. But it's a fun thought :P Jun 04 22:31:09 http://systems.cs.columbia.edu/projects/kvm-arm/ Jun 04 22:32:03 If you read the paper, you'll note the section "simulation platform" Jun 04 22:33:33 Russ: I was speculating how to go about using virt not in its usual application but as a means of making a cluster of small disjoint ARM boards behave as a unit from a user-space perspective. Jun 04 22:47:35 With Linux-capable ARM boards being so common now, but each one having quite limited memory, it would be quite appealing to use a hypervisor to bind them into a virtual system. The kernel has NUMA support already, so that might even be supported already to some extent. Jun 04 22:51:42 people used to talk about "beowulf clusters" all the timeā€¦ what happened to that? Jun 04 22:54:45 It got a bad reputation as a Slashdot meme :P Jun 04 22:57:21 More crucially though, a Beowulf cluster was never defined precisely. It's just pretty much any kind of *nix cluster that uses any of the standard message-passing systems. So I guess the term lost use through not meaning much. Jun 04 22:59:18 yet at the Uni we had a 18 node cluster running scientific computations for a time. Jun 04 23:00:01 It got so ignored over time I found it by accident with several machines tits up and ups a beeping wildly with dead batteries. Jun 04 23:00:13 Haha Jun 04 23:00:18 Poor thing :P Jun 04 23:00:32 And do people call yours a Beowulf? Jun 04 23:00:47 yeah. I confronted the prof that set it up and he pretended he used it all the time Jun 04 23:00:55 * fiola chuckles Jun 04 23:02:17 I am not with the Uni any longer. I dont have one to call anything Jun 04 23:13:54 beowulf main links are not happening Jun 04 23:42:01 Will distclean remove patches? Jun 04 23:43:21 ah no Jun 04 23:48:42 good :P Jun 04 23:48:53 I dont want to repatch everything :D Jun 04 23:50:26 o_O Jun 05 00:03:10 What about 3G modems, can we just plug and play? Jun 05 00:04:02 I would imagine that strongly depends on the driver support. Jun 05 00:04:14 Some modems are well-supported on linux, some are not. Jun 05 00:05:28 right, what I mean is assuming it works, supported by kernel drivers and etc, is there anything we have to configure for android to use it. Does it just pick it up and go? Jun 05 00:06:56 That is a good question. Jun 05 00:07:05 Also, remember that Android is not Linux. Jun 05 00:07:12 Android is Linux-based. Jun 05 00:07:54 android is just another Linux userland Jun 05 00:08:10 on the same level as gnu utils Jun 05 00:08:26 A highly customised, very weird userland. Jun 05 00:09:01 some would use abnormal, braindead, idiotic but I guess very weird would work also ;) Jun 05 00:09:16 I try to remain polite. Jun 05 00:09:18 ;-P Jun 05 00:09:33 prpplague: greetings again, im not sure if it was you or riskable that mentioned some videos related to the enc28j60, but i havent found any showing various attachment methods on youtube yet, do you have any videos handy Jun 05 00:10:30 Vadtec: no i don't normally keep track of videos Jun 05 00:10:49 Vadtec: but it sounds like enc28j60 might be a little out your skill level currently Jun 05 00:11:17 prpplague: i asked a friend who repairs electronics to help me Jun 05 00:11:34 was going to show him a video of the device if possible Jun 05 00:11:44 Vadtec: just have him look at the schematic for the zippy then Jun 05 00:12:16 agmlego, seeing android is meant to be installed on devices by non-end users its not a big leap to assume that somethings work only with config files Jun 05 00:12:44 Borillion: I never said otherwise. Jun 05 00:13:11 * Borillion will try and see if 3G modem works :P Jun 05 00:13:22 agmlego, just commenting :P Jun 05 00:18:56 does the beaglebone accept 5v i2c signals Jun 05 00:19:02 or only 3.3? Jun 05 00:19:27 depends... if you plan is to turn the bone into a heater, it accepts any signals :D Jun 05 00:19:28 3.3VDC-only, I beleieve. Jun 05 00:19:32 But it is on the datasheet. Jun 05 00:19:45 prpplague: yeah, i was gonna look at a vid and see if i would royally bjork it if i tried my self or if maybe i could do it Jun 05 00:20:55 Vadtec: yea, based on your responses, i would say that it is beyond your current skill level Jun 05 00:21:34 I was thinking about hooking up this to the beaglebone : http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/Rainbowduino_LED_driver_platform_-_Atmega_328 Jun 05 00:21:53 but I think it has vcc 5v which would make its i2c also 5v Jun 05 00:22:07 Easy enough to convert that though. Jun 05 00:23:02 like with a level converter ic? Jun 05 00:23:08 Yes. Jun 05 00:23:18 Make sure you get a bidirectional one. Jun 05 00:23:31 I know Sparkfun carries at least one appropriate item for this. Jun 05 00:23:33 you got a part number? Jun 05 00:23:54 Not at the moment, ut it should e trivial to find. Jun 05 00:24:22 http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8745 Jun 05 00:24:43 http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10403 Jun 05 00:24:48 Those two for sure. Jun 05 00:24:55 howdy folks... I got my beagleboard xM today... I have it plugged in... and it's up... Jun 05 00:25:04 but I do not see cloud9 or python on it Jun 05 00:25:22 9306 prefered Jun 05 00:25:25 Does the xM image come with those? Jun 05 00:25:42 waltermixxx: Did you grab the latest demo image? Jun 05 00:26:04 this is the one that came on my rev c board Jun 05 00:26:06 prpplague: why Jun 05 00:26:29 can I apt-get it? Jun 05 00:27:51 The image? Jun 05 00:27:53 No. Jun 05 00:27:56 heeen: the one using the transistors limits the speed due to the rise/fall times and does not work well for the lower voltages Jun 05 00:27:58 You could wget it, maybe. Jun 05 00:28:11 wget... ok I will try Jun 05 00:28:27 whats the syntax? Jun 05 00:28:34 waltermixxx: Really, you need to do that on a device other than the xM. Jun 05 00:28:49 waltermixxx: You need to download it, and reimage the card withy it. Jun 05 00:29:04 waltermixxx: Plenty of instuctions on how to do that on the wiki. Jun 05 00:29:10 yup saw them, Jun 05 00:29:15 just thought it would be on it Jun 05 00:29:16 prpplague: I see Jun 05 00:29:20 so I could start messing around Jun 05 00:29:36 is there a key sequence I can hit during boot up so it does not load the gui? Jun 05 00:29:45 waltermixxx: The rev C boards, and thus the images that come with them, are older than Cloud 9. Jun 05 00:30:09 waltermixxx: Not that I know of, but you could either uninstall it, or get the no-GUI image. Jun 05 00:30:10 it's a beagleboard xM rev C Jun 05 00:30:15 Yes, I know. Jun 05 00:30:25 ok sorry agmlego Jun 05 00:30:27 :) Jun 05 00:30:32 Not a problem. Jun 05 00:30:53 ok I best start with a brand new sd card and keep this demo safe Jun 05 00:30:58 until i get the hang of it Jun 05 00:31:06 i have an 8 gig Jun 05 00:31:07 Or just copy the image off it first. Jun 05 00:31:12 That works too. Jun 05 00:31:25 i have ubuntu on my laptop Jun 05 00:31:36 and i understand the whole process is that much easier from linux Jun 05 00:31:40 correct? Jun 05 00:31:44 Yes, it tends to be. Jun 05 00:31:55 But so does most development work of any kind. Jun 05 00:31:56 this is all very new to me :) so I appreciate any suggestions... Jun 05 00:32:38 I'm hoping to get one of those trainer xM boards so I can hook up stuff to this board... at some point once i get my feet wet Jun 05 00:33:04 waltermixxx: I believe prpplague was involved in those. Jun 05 00:33:24 waltermixxx: better do it soon Jun 05 00:33:36 are you with tincan? Jun 05 00:33:41 yea Jun 05 00:33:44 cool Jun 05 00:33:51 I sent someone there an email this weekend Jun 05 00:34:05 i am in canada and was enquiring Jun 05 00:34:30 i was so surprised how tiny all the little expansion connections are... Jun 05 00:34:40 i think that board will be very handy Jun 05 00:34:41 :) Jun 05 00:35:06 say, I was wondering... Jun 05 00:35:24 waltermixxx: there are a couple of canadian vendors who sell the trainer Jun 05 00:35:44 i only saw the one, and he did not have any in stock... Jun 05 00:35:48 waltermixxx: just fyi, all beagle and pandaboard accessories from tincantools has been discontinued Jun 05 00:35:56 eek Jun 05 00:36:03 waltermixxx: so there won't be any more other than what is in stock Jun 05 00:36:11 double eeeeek Jun 05 00:36:15 waltermixxx: you have a rev C or xm? Jun 05 00:36:22 i have an xM Jun 05 00:36:34 waltermixxx: xm is in stock at TCT Jun 05 00:36:41 tct? Jun 05 00:36:44 waltermixxx: just use the USPS shipping Jun 05 00:36:46 tincantools Jun 05 00:36:49 ah Jun 05 00:37:02 ok will do.... :) Jun 05 00:37:10 better put the order in now :) Jun 05 00:37:12 http://www.tincantools.com/product.php?productid=16151&cat=0&page=2&featured Jun 05 00:38:11 the $4.00 shipping one? Jun 05 00:38:33 yea it should be listed a USPS(US postal Service) Jun 05 00:38:52 ok Jun 05 00:39:07 no issues with post across the boarder? Jun 05 00:42:28 prpplague are you there? :) Jun 05 00:43:59 order placed. :) Jun 05 00:44:03 did you get it? Jun 05 00:44:05 waltermixxx: As far as I know, USPS will ship across the border no problem. Jun 05 00:44:17 okie doke, I placed the order... Jun 05 00:44:58 I was going to place an order anyway... but it was good to know it was being discontinued.... Jun 05 00:45:29 but now I kinda feel like I shoujld ask why? did I buy the beagle board xM too late? it's getting long in the tooth? Jun 05 00:45:50 well to me it's new :) Jun 05 00:46:11 and much more flexable than my arduino's :) Jun 05 00:47:03 Just a bit. :P Jun 05 00:47:09 :) Jun 05 00:47:36 still don't understand why newark was charging 210 bucks for one, and not 149 Jun 05 00:47:41 * mranostay scrolls up Jun 05 00:48:19 i do have a couple of questions regarding the trainer xM Jun 05 00:48:32 if prpplague is around? Jun 05 00:48:52 it would appear not Jun 05 00:49:04 Depending on the questions, we might be able to answer them anyway. Jun 05 00:49:09 cool Jun 05 00:49:30 Although I don't really consider Linux machines to compete with bare-metal boards. The Arduino is far better than any Beagle or Pi for low-jitter realtime response, while the Linux devices are far better on higher level and non-realtime stuff. They're complementary. Jun 05 00:49:37 the trainer xm has a little eprom attached to the i2c like most "periferals" on the expansion port... Jun 05 00:50:00 my question is... what is the default setting it puts the gpi's in... Jun 05 00:50:29 can I guess the mode of the labeled pins up against the proto typing area? Jun 05 00:53:42 Probably. Jun 05 00:54:46 the other question is, can I use the sda and scl I want to use them also with a 16 channel pwm expansion from adafruit is that possible ? or are they only used to identify the board type? Jun 05 00:55:03 No, that is a general-purpose I2C bus. Jun 05 00:55:19 So long as you avoid the address the EEPROM uses, you should be golden. Jun 05 00:55:37 ok cool, so after the system identifies the board, then I can use those two pins to do somthing else? Jun 05 00:55:46 Yeah. Jun 05 00:57:03 https://www.adafruit.com/products/815 Jun 05 00:57:14 I am familiar with it. Jun 05 00:57:15 ;-P Jun 05 00:57:20 cool :) Jun 05 00:57:32 do you have a beagle board? or a beaglebone? Jun 05 00:58:10 I have a defunct xM, and will soon have a pandaBoard ES. Jun 05 00:58:20 http://projectinanna.blogspot.com Jun 05 00:58:40 I am using the ES as the main control system for a 100% autonomous hovercraft.l Jun 05 00:58:41 I'm afraid to look, it will be twice as fast, and cost just as much... :) Jun 05 00:58:50 The Pandaboard? Jun 05 00:58:54 yup Jun 05 00:59:01 dual-core 1.2GHz, 1GB DDR2, $180. Jun 05 00:59:17 Uses the OMAP4 series instead of the OMAP3 the xM uses. Jun 05 00:59:20 damn you... :) Jun 05 00:59:32 ::shrugs:: Jun 05 00:59:38 waltermixxx: Nice board, cheers. I have a pile of ex-plane servos doing nothing, maybe I could do something with them .... Jun 05 00:59:45 Oh, also, WiFi and Bluetooth built-in. Jun 05 00:59:54 lol Jun 05 01:00:17 i have a softspot for beagles.... Jun 05 01:00:42 i will check out your blog when I get a chance :) sounds like a cool project Jun 05 01:01:19 i will check the documentation on the trainer xM and hope it mentions the address of it's eeprom :) Jun 05 01:01:37 or I will ask the dudes at tincan :) Jun 05 01:01:51 agmlego: http://motherboard.vice.com/2012/6/4/why-hate-the-catcopter-drones-are-the-real-flying-death--2 Jun 05 01:01:57 waltermixxx: The EEPROM address is a fixed, known quantity. Jun 05 01:02:19 Every expansion has to have the EEPROM at the same address, or the host cannot poll it. Jun 05 01:02:21 That was on Slashdot today :P Jun 05 01:02:31 dah, that totally makes sense... Jun 05 01:02:44 fiola: I saw it. It was, frankly, off-color, tasteless, and disgusting. Jun 05 01:02:44 i kinda figured it was something logical... :) Jun 05 01:02:50 fiola: But that is just my opinion. Jun 05 01:03:06 agmlego: It certainly pulls the wrong way. Jun 05 01:03:12 waltermixxx: So, it should be listed in the board manual, or in the expansion developers' guide. Jun 05 01:03:37 both I should be able to find online :) will check it out later on... Jun 05 01:04:16 Yup. Jun 05 01:04:17 do you happen to know if I can log off the gui in angrstum and mess around in the "dos prompt" ( don't laugh, I cannot remember what the text screen is called ) Jun 05 01:04:18 agmlego: After thinking about that article a bit, I'm eying my leather boots unhappily Jun 05 01:06:09 fiola: Meh. I am honestly more OK with animal products coming from beings I did not personally love, live with, and name. Jun 05 01:07:08 waltermixxx: Command line, or terminal. Jun 05 01:07:20 agmlego: Lots of youngsters on farms personally love, live with, and name, cows, sheep, chickens, and various other animals that we then consume. Jun 05 01:08:02 waltermixxx: You can usually get to a terminal on Linux from the GUI by hitting Ctrl+Alt+F1 (or F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, depending on how many terminals your distro has set up). F7 usually takes you back to the GUI. Jun 05 01:08:16 fiola: Note the word "personally". ;-P Jun 05 01:08:24 * fiola nods Jun 05 01:09:15 waltermixxx: Alternatively, you can set up an SSH server on the board, then SSH into it from any other machine on your network. Jun 05 01:09:46 is that something easy to do? I was hoping to do that from the start... Jun 05 01:10:26 * mranostay pokes mru Jun 05 01:11:14 with ubuntu one can do a sudo get to download and install... is there an equiv in angstrum? or is it really bare bones? Jun 05 01:11:14 waltermixxx: There is almost assuredly an SSH server available in the repositories. Jun 05 01:11:25 Angstrom uses, I believe, opkg. Jun 05 01:11:31 Look for openssh packages there. Jun 05 01:11:52 what would the syntax be in terminal? ( I guess I can google that...) :) Jun 05 01:12:00 Yes, please Google that. Jun 05 01:12:14 Note that i am not personally very familiar with Angstrom. Jun 05 01:12:30 I use Debian and Gentoo on my board. Jun 05 01:12:33 okie doke no problem, I will google it :) Jun 05 01:13:14 on your panda? or your defunct xM ( or does defunct mean dead or no longer used?) Jun 05 01:13:38 waltermixxx: phone one sec Jun 05 01:13:38 On the xM. Jun 05 01:13:43 It died. Jun 05 01:14:08 A short, sharp shock from rapid deceleration on concrete from a momentary freefall from a second-floor balcony. Jun 05 01:14:08 no problem prpplague :) thanks for pinging me back :) Jun 05 01:14:31 on purpose from frustration? Jun 05 01:14:38 And I will likely be using one or the other on the pandaboard, which is in the mail. Jun 05 01:14:41 No. Jun 05 01:14:48 A four-year-old happened. Jun 05 01:15:09 i would say congrats, but I guess I am 4 years too late :) Jun 05 01:15:31 Eh? Jun 05 01:15:47 congrats on the new child. Jun 05 01:15:54 4 years too late.... Jun 05 01:16:20 yeah it did not make too much sense to me, but sometimes I type faster than I think :) Jun 05 01:16:21 Ah, I see where your assumptions fail. It was not my own child. Jun 05 01:16:44 ah... even worse... ( I hang my head in shame from bad joke telling...) Jun 05 01:16:48 One of the folk at the hackerspace had her kid, and he got bored. Jun 05 01:16:55 Not an issue. Jun 05 01:17:56 but I can check that off the list then Jun 05 01:18:00 the xM does not fly Jun 05 01:18:16 It flies fine. Jun 05 01:18:22 It is the landing that goes poorly. Jun 05 01:18:34 hmm...I'll have to do some bisection to see if that is a regression Jun 05 01:18:36 Worse, it landed parallel to the ground. Jun 05 01:18:53 My guess is that seveal of the balls in the voltage supervisor popped up. Jun 05 01:19:03 Tried to reflow it a couple times to no avail. Jun 05 01:19:15 or just a cracked pcb Jun 05 01:19:25 Nope. Jun 05 01:19:31 geez, you are dedicated Jun 05 01:19:34 did you x-ray it yet? Jun 05 01:20:38 Tried to. Jun 05 01:20:55 The place I would have had it done was unavailable. Jun 05 01:21:08 And I was thinking about upgrading to the pandaboard anyway. Jun 05 01:23:45 so the syntax was opkg install openssh Jun 05 01:23:54 says installing to root Jun 05 01:23:55 :) Jun 05 01:24:00 dang Jun 05 01:24:08 cannot install package openssh Jun 05 01:24:40 Why not? Jun 05 01:25:03 check_conflicts_for: dropbear * Jun 05 01:25:08 something like that... Jun 05 01:25:20 Pastie the exact results, please. Jun 05 01:25:25 dropbear is an ssh server... Jun 05 01:25:41 http://matt.ucc.asn.au/dropbear/dropbear.html Jun 05 01:26:07 ah so much to learn Jun 05 01:26:19 waltermixxx: How much Linux do you know? Jun 05 01:26:44 Well that was an expensive mistake Jun 05 01:26:44 I purchased the beagle board to learn it... ( and mess around ) Jun 05 01:26:48 Ah. Jun 05 01:26:53 Plugged a cape in backwards and fried the beaglebone :( Jun 05 01:27:04 Ouch nick Jun 05 01:27:25 Yes, lots to learn then. ;-P Jun 05 01:27:26 how you manage that one? Jun 05 01:27:42 Not paying close enough attention to what I was doing :/ Jun 05 01:27:49 nickjohnson: Ouch. Jun 05 01:28:05 That is the only nice thing about the stupid headers ont he Arduino--they are keyed. Jun 05 01:28:18 Yeah Jun 05 01:28:31 The 'bone has the cutout, but apparently idiots like me can ignore it if they're not paying attention Jun 05 01:28:40 Yeah. Jun 05 01:28:48 On the plus side, my stepper cape v2 works. 2 I2C controlled steppers! Jun 05 01:28:52 waltermixxx: Don't let it worry you. There's a zillion little details, but Linux/Unix hang together very logically, and it's all open. You'll get there. Jun 05 01:28:53 And that is a lot more subtle than "Hey, this does not fit at all" Jun 05 01:28:59 indeed Jun 05 01:29:08 But well done! Jun 05 01:29:35 Thanks fiola :) Jun 05 01:29:57 :P Jun 05 01:30:11 First time I've done any serious SMT stuff, too Jun 05 01:30:17 Though none of the packages were particularly small Jun 05 01:30:21 waltermixxx: I agree with fiola, but also add that it is easier to learn Linux (like most things) by immersion. Jun 05 01:30:38 Thaqt is how I did it six years ago. Jun 05 01:30:39 interesting, I just tried a opkg install python and it said the one in the root is up to date Jun 05 01:30:46 Yeah. Jun 05 01:30:54 how do I run it? Jun 05 01:30:59 Linux comes with Python, almost invariably. Jun 05 01:31:03 Type python. Jun 05 01:31:07 And hit enter. Jun 05 01:31:08 lol Jun 05 01:31:20 cool Jun 05 01:31:23 that was easy Jun 05 01:31:35 Things tend to be. Jun 05 01:31:47 i have a book on my ipad on python... I will have to try hello world :) Jun 05 01:32:01 strange linux makes me feel like a kid Jun 05 01:32:07 Heh. Jun 05 01:32:09 in that I have much to learn Jun 05 01:32:20 Python is a good langauge to learn, especially if it is your first. Jun 05 01:32:31 well been doing the arduino thing for a while Jun 05 01:32:31 It is easy, powerful, and runs on anything. Jun 05 01:32:33 What agmlego said Jun 05 01:32:36 Fair enough. Jun 05 01:32:41 and bascom for avr Jun 05 01:32:48 microcontrollers :) Jun 05 01:32:50 And, it allows you to fiddle with a bunch of different programming paradigms. Jun 05 01:32:52 "Hello world!" is easy, but "Hello world again!!, now there's a challange Jun 05 01:32:52 Anything with an OS and at least a few megs of disk, anyway Jun 05 01:32:56 :P Jun 05 01:33:09 nickjohnson: There do exist interpreters for microcontrollers too. Jun 05 01:33:12 great basic compiler for atmel micros Jun 05 01:33:20 nickjohnson: Not terribly full-functioned, but still. Jun 05 01:33:32 agmlego: Yeah, but they're pale imitations, and not a good match for the platform, in my opinion Jun 05 01:33:45 True. Jun 05 01:33:51 Just saying, they do exist. Jun 05 01:34:05 yup Jun 05 01:35:33 Speaking of Python, if anyone's bored, I could use some eyeballs: http://www.ratemycurve.com/ Jun 05 01:35:51 (It's a genetic algorithm to evolve interesting looking curves based on user ratings) Jun 05 01:36:11 waltermixxx: sooo, what up? Jun 05 01:36:27 I put my order in for the trainer xM Jun 05 01:36:28 :) Jun 05 01:36:36 dandy Jun 05 01:36:42 i used the 4.00 option Jun 05 01:36:45 for shipping Jun 05 01:36:57 waltermixxx: elinux.org has a full wiki page with basic info on the board Jun 05 01:36:58 any clue how long it might take ? Jun 05 01:36:59 nickjohnson: The about page is broken. Jun 05 01:37:11 agmlego: Yup. It's a work in progress. Jun 05 01:37:12 yup I checked out thw wiki Jun 05 01:37:13 waltermixxx: 3-10 days, generally. Jun 05 01:37:13 :) Jun 05 01:37:16 I should probably get on that :) Jun 05 01:37:21 waltermixxx: usually to CA is about 7-10 days Jun 05 01:37:26 cool Jun 05 01:37:32 did you see the order come in? Jun 05 01:37:33 nickjohnson: What is it that we are doing here? Jun 05 01:37:36 i used paypal Jun 05 01:37:38 to pay Jun 05 01:37:42 :) hope that's ok Jun 05 01:37:43 :) Jun 05 01:38:02 did you make the boards? Jun 05 01:38:12 waltermixxx: hehe, i don't sit at the warehouse, hehe Jun 05 01:38:17 agmlego: You click on the curve you think looks more interesting. The ratings are used to score all the curves in the current generation, and used as a fitness function to generate the next generation of curves using a genetic algorithm Jun 05 01:38:23 i mean designed them :) Jun 05 01:38:26 waltermixxx: trainerboard is my design Jun 05 01:38:28 nickjohnson: Ah. Why? Jun 05 01:38:31 very cool Jun 05 01:38:40 it was exactly what I was hoping to find Jun 05 01:38:46 agmlego: 1) Because it's interesting, 2) Because I'm building a sand plotter, and want interesting things to draw on it. Jun 05 01:39:01 i figure it will have enough to keep me busy on the beagle. Jun 05 01:39:12 nickjohnson: OK. Jun 05 01:39:45 I can't get over how small those connectors on the board are... ( the one's besides the expansion port) Jun 05 01:40:07 where does one get male headers that small Jun 05 01:40:08 :) Jun 05 01:41:00 so the trainer board xM has a male expansion connector Jun 05 01:41:17 Digikey. Jun 05 01:41:29 Jameco, Newark, Farnell, Mouser. Jun 05 01:41:39 Any of the electronics componet houses, really. Jun 05 01:41:52 nickjohnson: I had to look up "sand plotter", hadn't heard of that before. Interesting Jun 05 01:41:54 just wondering what you call the femail header that size Jun 05 01:41:58 waltermixxx: There are probably part numbers in the BOM. Jun 05 01:42:02 female header Jun 05 01:42:10 ok Jun 05 01:42:16 thats a start... :) Jun 05 01:42:45 fiola: It's been a fun project, so far :) Jun 05 01:42:51 :-) Jun 05 01:43:16 i was thinking, i may never get a camera for it, so the header on the top could be used for something else as well asuming i set those pins to GPIO Jun 05 01:43:38 the mux register for those pins that is... Jun 05 01:44:14 does anyone know of a good wireless usb wifi dongle for use with the beagle board? Jun 05 01:44:45 Any supported by Linux drivers. Jun 05 01:45:13 * agmlego goes to sleep. Jun 05 01:46:55 ok how do I telnet onto my beagle board Jun 05 01:46:59 i have the ip address Jun 05 01:47:14 it appears as though dropbear is on there Jun 05 01:48:44 says it's sleeping in the system monitor :) Jun 05 01:49:34 dropbear provides ssh Jun 05 01:50:24 yup I'm googling dropbear Jun 05 01:50:54 hoping i can connect to my beagle board via something :) Jun 05 01:50:59 ssh Jun 05 01:51:34 Hello Russ. Jun 05 01:51:39 How's it going? Jun 05 01:51:56 eh, frustrated with some overly complex python I've buried myself in Jun 05 01:53:37 No fun. Jun 05 01:53:45 ssh is the command? :) he he Jun 05 01:53:48 python for the beagle or something else. Jun 05 01:54:22 something else, component footprints Jun 05 01:54:51 ah Jun 05 01:56:31 what would the password be to access a brand new beagle board via ssh? Jun 05 01:56:47 i am being prompted for a password Jun 05 01:56:54 i did not think there was a password. Jun 05 01:57:14 did you try ssh'ing as root? Jun 05 01:57:25 waltermixxx just try it without a pass. Jun 05 01:57:34 tried without a password... Jun 05 01:57:49 and not sure how to run terminal as root? Jun 05 01:57:55 ssh root@... Jun 05 01:58:07 ah that makes sense Jun 05 01:58:17 currently it says waltermixx@ Jun 05 01:58:27 I don't think waltermixx is in /etc/passwd Jun 05 01:59:17 thank you I mad it in Jun 05 01:59:19 Never know Jun 05 01:59:21 made it in Jun 05 01:59:25 Maybe it's some backdoor Russ Jun 05 01:59:27 :P Jun 05 01:59:32 i sued ssh root@192.168.x.x Jun 05 01:59:39 i used... Jun 05 01:59:40 i mean Jun 05 01:59:51 thanks... :) this is cool Jun 05 02:00:06 yea the bone and board and cool devices. Jun 05 02:00:21 I'm getting around to setting up my github repo for my alarm system project. Jun 05 02:00:32 cool Jun 05 02:00:40 I want to make a modular cape. Jun 05 02:00:44 but we'll see how that goes. Jun 05 02:01:23 cool now I am running python on my beagleboard from my ubuntu laptop... via terminal Jun 05 02:01:33 is there a command for reboot? Jun 05 02:01:40 shutdown -r now Jun 05 02:03:52 cool, Jun 05 02:05:15 * Russ changes s/copy.copy/copy.deepcopy/ Jun 05 02:06:55 o_O Jun 05 02:10:28 this beagle board gets a new ip address each time I reboot it. Jun 05 02:10:56 because the hwaddr is random Jun 05 02:11:03 it is? Jun 05 02:11:09 It's not random on the bone Jun 05 02:11:15 more importantly, the graphics display keeps defaulting to a resolution that is too high for my monitor Jun 05 02:11:41 i managed to get the gui up once... just not sure what I did to get it up Jun 05 02:12:16 i can ssh onto it, so I know it's up Jun 05 02:12:36 but the monitor displays out of range when it cannot handle the resolution Jun 05 02:12:39 you can set the resolution on the kernel command line Jun 05 02:12:52 (amoung other ways) Jun 05 02:12:54 via ssh Jun 05 02:16:51 if done from the command line, is it only for that session? Jun 05 02:17:17 omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x1024MR-16@60 omapdss.def_disp=dvi Jun 05 02:20:14 that didnt work via ssh Jun 05 02:38:41 prpplague are you still there? Jun 05 02:39:59 somewhat debatable Jun 05 02:40:04 but yea Jun 05 02:40:06 lol :) Jun 05 02:40:38 can the arduino on board be programmed Jun 05 02:40:55 via arduino ide running on beagle board? Jun 05 02:41:00 yea Jun 05 02:41:14 as long as you haven't erased the arduino bootloader Jun 05 02:41:32 i recommend if you are going to do some arduino hacking to get an isp programmer as a backup Jun 05 02:41:33 it comes preloaded correct? Jun 05 02:41:36 yea Jun 05 02:41:41 ok Jun 05 02:41:52 yup I was planning on building an isp programmer Jun 05 02:42:16 i'm just reading through the wiki on the trainer xm Jun 05 02:42:44 will you be designing or developing any beagle bone capes? Jun 05 02:43:05 no, TCT is out of beagle/panda accessory biz Jun 05 02:43:34 hitched up to another dev board? Jun 05 02:44:10 well i have to say, it's our loss... that is one cool board... Jun 05 02:44:17 i cannot wait to get it Jun 05 02:44:18 :) Jun 05 02:45:24 is it a rev b being sent out to me? Jun 05 02:45:34 waltermixxx: no, concentrating on our other business areas Jun 05 02:45:41 i see Jun 05 02:45:46 rev b Jun 05 02:45:51 bbiag Jun 05 02:45:52 would it be possible to put a couple of extra stand offs in the package? Jun 05 02:45:53 bbiaf Jun 05 02:46:10 i'll send an email to the shipping Jun 05 02:46:38 you'll send me an email when you ship it? Jun 05 02:47:03 what's bbiaf? Jun 05 02:47:10 be back in a flash Jun 05 02:47:14 got it **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jun 05 02:59:57 2012