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Jun 05 03:13:17 <ds2> Hmmmm
Jun 05 04:04:10 <KeatonT> I need some help thinking up a good name for my beaglebone projects page.
Jun 05 04:04:11 <KeatonT> lol
Jun 05 04:52:12 <KeatonT> Anyone still awake?
Jun 05 04:55:36 <stateful> yo
Jun 05 05:01:23 <KeatonT> hello stateful
Jun 05 05:01:33 <stateful> Howdy
Jun 05 05:05:04 <mranostay> no i'm sleeping
Jun 05 05:13:03 <KeatonT> lol mranostay
Jun 05 05:13:26 <KeatonT> I'm excited. I finally got around to setting up a blog to document all my little projects that I do.
Jun 05 05:13:50 <KeatonT> Need a better tagline though.
Jun 05 05:14:03 <fiola> KeatonT: blog runs on a beagle I hope :P
Jun 05 05:14:12 <KeatonT> fiola I thought about it.
Jun 05 05:14:19 <KeatonT> but I figured it needed a little more power
Jun 05 05:14:22 <KeatonT> :P
Jun 05 05:14:26 <KeatonT> geekweekly.net
Jun 05 05:15:25 <KeatonT> It's even all SSL'y
Jun 05 05:15:26 <fiola> You'd better set up a weekly cron job to post something.  That tagline will be a slave master :P
Jun 05 05:15:56 <KeatonT> I registered the domain long ago.
Jun 05 05:16:05 <KeatonT> I'm always doing something.
Jun 05 05:16:13 <KeatonT> So I don't think it will be hard to have something to write about.
Jun 05 05:16:17 <KeatonT> I'll just need to make myself do it.
Jun 05 05:18:41 <fiola> Quite tempting to make a website out of clustered beaglebones.  Need more power, just slot in another.
Jun 05 05:19:39 <KeatonT> yea that would be kinda cool.
Jun 05 05:20:05 <KeatonT> I just realized that I'm never going to get rid of all those youtube videos I made 3 years ago
Jun 05 05:20:49 <KeatonT> They're permanently fixed to the internet.
Jun 05 06:43:10 <orated> Hello! Are these packages right to try lxde on BeagleBoard B4 - apt-get install lxdm lxde lxlauncher lubuntu-desktop - ? I know the board is ancient, but would like to try
Jun 05 06:43:49 <orated> (Ubuntu installation)
Jun 05 06:44:22 <LetoThe2nd> orated: lubuntu-desktop should suffice for giving you the lubuntu-flavoured lxde desktop.
Jun 05 06:44:43 <LetoThe2nd> if you want the pure blend, the package lxde should be enough.
Jun 05 06:45:12 <orated> No, I would like to try minimum version since the B4 got only 128MB RAM
Jun 05 06:45:28 <LetoThe2nd> orated: thats not related in any way to the age of the board, only to the ubuntu release in use.
Jun 05 06:46:11 <LetoThe2nd> orated: shuold be lxde then. see http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/lxde for more information on what it brings.
Jun 05 06:46:53 <orated> Thanks, I'll try
Jun 05 06:55:38 <aholler_> ehci is still broken in 3.4.1
Jun 05 06:57:03 <aholler_> 3.7 from av500 might have been a good aproximation
Jun 05 06:58:05 <av500> I said 3.6, but might need to revise that
Jun 05 06:58:52 <LetoThe2nd> av500: so you're a revisor?
Jun 05 06:59:01 <stuk_gen> someone have a problem to build libgles-omap3-4.05.00.03-r31?
Jun 05 07:04:47 <aholler> 3.6 should be around christmas/omap5, could be ;)
Jun 05 07:07:38 <aholler> at least 3.2 got longterm support from debian/ubuntu
Jun 05 07:08:59 <aholler> so if the ti-devs don't start to Cc: stable@ 3.2 is safe ;)
Jun 05 07:16:34 <aholler> hmm, lenovo gone omap4
Jun 05 07:38:29 <stuk_gen> ERROR: Function failed: omap3-sgx-modules: LIC_FILES_CHKSUM points to an
Jun 05 07:38:29 <stuk_gen> > invalid file
Jun 05 07:38:36 <stuk_gen> any idea?
Jun 05 07:39:19 <av500> https://www.google.com/search?q=LIC_FILES_CHKSUM+points+to+an+invalid+file
Jun 05 07:39:59 <stuk_gen> thanks very useful search for google for me...
Jun 05 07:40:13 <stuk_gen> maybe i just search
Jun 05 07:41:15 <av500> I assumed you have searched already before you asked here
Jun 05 07:42:21 <stuk_gen> i see
Jun 05 08:04:07 <luopio> Hi beagle pros. I'm trying to connect to Cloud9 via Ethernet using the address http://10.12.5.19:3000 (root to BB + ifconfig gave me the address), but there is nothing there. Also port 80 just shows a green directory listing.. Any ideas?
Jun 05 08:10:45 <tor> Hi, a bit of a newbie question. Is it possible to boot a linux 3+ kernel on a craneboard without providing a device tree? (Im trying without it but it misses a lot of peripherals.)
Jun 05 08:11:44 <av500> sure
Jun 05 08:11:55 <av500> if you have a board config for the crane
Jun 05 08:15:44 <tor> av500, i took the one from https://github.com/craneboard/craneboard-kernel and made an oldconfig but it misses out on a lot of stuff. Ethernet, i2c etc. But then it might just that i have to go over the config once more.
Jun 05 08:16:05 <tor> Is there any more up2date sources for craneboard than the once at github?
Jun 05 08:16:48 <av500> no idea
Jun 05 08:17:01 <av500> nobody here uses a crane
Jun 05 08:17:12 <tor> Ok :)
Jun 05 08:17:22 <mru> and guess why we don't use them
Jun 05 08:17:36 <tor> bad support?
Jun 05 08:17:38 <av500> it's named after a bird
Jun 05 08:17:52 <LetoThe2nd> oh, i occasionally use a crane, but one that doesn't come in pcb format.
Jun 05 08:20:14 <Tectu_> not sure what to do with my beagleboard xm :/
Jun 05 08:20:18 <Tectu_> it's such a nice thin
Jun 05 08:20:21 <Tectu_> thing*
Jun 05 08:20:27 <Tectu_> i want to do something with it :D
Jun 05 08:20:36 <LetoThe2nd> burn it. *suggestion*
Jun 05 08:20:47 <Tectu_> -.-
Jun 05 08:21:30 <av500> hug it
Jun 05 08:21:41 <av500> dress it up and walk it around the block
Jun 05 08:24:33 <mru> did friday come early this week?
Jun 05 08:24:59 <av500> yeah, for me it's' tomorrow
Jun 05 08:25:15 <LetoThe2nd> mru: you know, the amount of fridays per week varies heavily in #beagle.
Jun 05 08:25:39 <mru> but it's always at least one?
Jun 05 08:26:00 <LetoThe2nd> i think so, but i lack proof.
Jun 05 08:26:29 <LetoThe2nd> confirmed reports vary in the range [1:9] :-)
Jun 05 08:29:05 <LetoThe2nd> mru: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week#Nine-day
Jun 05 08:29:30 <LetoThe2nd> though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pawukon sounds super funny, too.
Jun 05 08:37:13 <dpenev> Hi Guys, i try to compile angstrom for beagleboard. I haev built the console-image.tgz and extracted on the second partition of the sdcard. The beagleboard xM hangs however at "Uncompressing Linux done, booting the kernel." With the original rootfs I can boot propery. Any pointers?
Jun 05 08:41:44 <dpenev> to be more precise build/tmp-angstrom_v2012_05-eglibc/deploy/images/beagleboard/Angstrom-console-image-eglibc-ipk-v2012.05-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2 is what i extract on the card
Jun 05 11:10:26 <hitlin37> my kindle keeps restarting......did anyone faced similar problem?
Jun 05 11:10:38 <av500> use a nook
Jun 05 11:12:05 <guyzmo> hi
Jun 05 11:12:33 <guyzmo> I got a weird problem, connman does not sent a DHCP request at startup
Jun 05 11:12:40 <guyzmo> on a beaglebone with stock installation
Jun 05 11:12:47 <guyzmo> though yesterday it was working fine...
Jun 05 11:13:24 <guyzmo> and I can't find a way to manually trigger the DHCP request on connmand
Jun 05 11:13:34 <guyzmo> (servicectl restart connmand does not work...)
Jun 05 11:13:44 <guyzmo> connmand.service
Jun 05 11:17:51 <hitlin37> av500:any other cheaper work around?
Jun 05 11:18:59 <ynezz> RMA it
Jun 05 11:19:08 <ynezz> battery dead?
Jun 05 11:27:24 <hitlin37> no battery dead
Jun 05 11:27:45 <hitlin37> it just boots and hangs
Jun 05 11:43:26 <hitlin37> may be kinidle's file system is unstable in nand....otherwise it should not keeep frezing
Jun 05 12:43:04 <koen> jkridner_: http://www.dailymarkets.com/stock/2012/06/05/texas-instruments-announces-senior-leadership-changes-brian-crutcher-to-lead-analog-and-greg-delagi-to-lead-embedded-processing/
Jun 05 12:43:09 <koen> ehm
Jun 05 12:43:17 <koen> jkridner_: https://plus.google.com/100242854243155306943/posts/Q7eAs7mu15J
Jun 05 12:44:24 * av500 had lunch with Delagi once
Jun 05 12:44:45 <LetoThe2nd> av500: who had to pay?
Jun 05 12:44:53 <koen> av500: not with delonghi?
Jun 05 12:45:32 <av500> koen: he was there too
Jun 05 12:45:48 <ogra_> making the espresso after dessert ?
Jun 05 12:47:15 <av500> koen: so embedded is swallowing omap?
Jun 05 12:47:23 <av500> or omap is swallowing embedded?
Jun 05 12:47:49 <jkridner> yeah.  Greg used to work in Houston, so I got to know him reasonably.
Jun 05 12:51:02 <koen> jkridner_: I have patches for bonescript to read the additional sensors, should I send a pull request or do you want to keep the code bmp085 only
Jun 05 12:56:04 <aleek> linux kernel for beagleboard xm and regular one are the same?
Jun 05 12:56:58 <av500> yes
Jun 05 12:57:10 <av500> at least the angstrom one
Jun 05 12:58:06 <ogra_> mainline at least for Xm and Cx
Jun 05 12:58:15 <ogra_> (ubuntu uses mainline for omap3)
Jun 05 13:05:21 <angs> does anyone know what image has 3.0.7 kernel on http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/archive/
Jun 05 13:07:16 <koen> there newer was a 3.0.7 for bone
Jun 05 13:07:18 <koen> so: none
Jun 05 13:11:34 <angs> have you ever tried to use rtl8192cu on bone? I followed the instruction here that you gave before http://ladyada.net/products/beaglebone/wifi.html and used some other instructions, but bone does not connect to the access point. I wonder if you can suggest any document, instruction or something else
Jun 05 13:12:13 <angs> I am using 3.2.18 angstroms dist.
Jun 05 13:13:34 <aholler> start with a better description of your problem, e.g. what iw dev scan says
Jun 05 13:16:03 <angs> iw dev scan > http://paste.ubuntu.com/1024996/
Jun 05 13:16:46 <angs> iwconfig, lsusb, connman/settings & wifi.config >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025000/
Jun 05 13:16:49 <aholler> try adding wlan0 or whatever your device is named
Jun 05 13:17:30 <aholler> see line 32
Jun 05 13:19:02 <angs> iw wlan0 scan >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025003/
Jun 05 13:20:01 <aholler> and is your ap shown?
Jun 05 13:20:07 <angs> yes
Jun 05 13:20:11 <angs> the first one is my ap
Jun 05 13:21:12 <angs> this is the wpa_supplicant > http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025009/
Jun 05 13:23:05 <mdp> koen, the lack of mainline bone adds more effort to my use of remoteproc :-/ perhaps I can enlist bradfa to write this up.
Jun 05 13:23:08 <angs> I have been struggling to connect my ap for a week, the all settings seem fine, I could not find any solution
Jun 05 13:24:30 <aholler> angs: no one can answer without you offering an error msg. try wpa_supplicant -dd -cyour.conf
Jun 05 13:29:34 <angs> could you hint me where do I make a mistake wpa_supplicant -dd -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
Jun 05 13:29:44 <aholler> add -iwlan0
Jun 05 13:29:58 <aholler> maybe installing and reading the man page might help
Jun 05 13:30:46 <angs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025027/
Jun 05 13:30:58 <angs> I get some errors
Jun 05 13:31:12 <koen> mdp: yeah, vaibhav was sounding desperate in todays l-o ml mails as well
Jun 05 13:31:23 <angs> do I need to write password in hex or ASCII?
Jun 05 13:31:48 <av500> mdp: remoteproc on bone?
Jun 05 13:32:16 <mdp> av500, yes
Jun 05 13:32:20 <aholler> angs: man wpa_supplicant.conf
Jun 05 13:32:44 <mdp> av500, for a uP system on a cape
Jun 05 13:35:20 <mdp> koen, some people choose to make commitments that they can't control..that's all I'll say on your above comment ;)
Jun 05 13:40:24 <av500> mdp: remoteproc over i2c, sweet
Jun 05 13:40:53 <mdp> almost :)
Jun 05 13:41:10 <av500> 1-wire?
Jun 05 13:41:11 <mdp> av500, I'm driven by hack value alone
Jun 05 13:42:06 <mdp> gpmc/gpio/pwm for initial boot…uart for rpmsg packets
Jun 05 13:42:38 <av500> yeah, dont use gpmc for communication, that would be too efficient
Jun 05 13:43:24 <aholler> buy faster hw
Jun 05 13:43:24 <mdp> dual port sram is too expensive..killed my vision
Jun 05 13:44:06 <mdp> bbl
Jun 05 13:44:14 <panto> cya
Jun 05 13:44:44 <av500> mdp: use the HPI of the other cpu
Jun 05 13:47:27 <bradfa> mdp, let me know what you're looking for wrt remoteproc / mainlining. would remoteproc deal at all with the am335x m3 or pruss? I'm not that familiar
Jun 05 13:53:09 <koen> it could
Jun 05 13:55:04 <bradfa> k, I'm not "the guy" for remoteproc (first time I'm hearing of it, but sounds cool), but I can rant about mainlining like a pro
Jun 05 14:03:42 <angs> how can I uninstall connman?
Jun 05 14:05:24 <Crofton|work> ti guys, you have a new overlord?
Jun 05 14:06:35 <aholler> two,one for the level shifters and one for the socs
Jun 05 14:06:53 <angs> does anyone know what image does not have connman here http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/archive/
Jun 05 14:07:19 <aholler> angs: there are changelogs there too
Jun 05 14:07:49 * bradfa wants title of "VP of level shifters"
Jun 05 14:07:55 <angs> thanks aholler
Jun 05 14:12:12 <aholler> sound easy until they get digital and sw will get involved ;)
Jun 05 14:16:54 <av500> aholler: I am waiting for level shifters to get SW updates
Jun 05 14:18:13 <aholler> yeah, than companies can sell alpha-level-stuff promising fixes will come
Jun 05 14:18:21 <aholler> s/tahn/then/
Jun 05 14:19:05 <aholler> level-shifters grown up at the customers ;)
Jun 05 14:21:10 <serekson> I am working for a driver for an SPI device.  If I setup spi_board_info in the kernel and specify a driver that doesn't exist and then insmod the driver as a module will it work?  Or do I have to include the driver in the kernel?
Jun 05 14:21:26 <serekson> recompiling every time I make a change is getting old
Jun 05 14:22:50 <aholler> you can give make arguments, e.g. make path/to/foo.ko
Jun 05 14:25:59 <aholler> those ng-level-shifters (with firmware) must be an intriguing idea for managers ;)
Jun 05 14:28:01 <serekson> so if I compile the driver as a module, when I make changes I can just replace the .ko?
Jun 05 14:29:53 <aholler> depends on the changes.
Jun 05 14:31:59 <serekson> awesome, thanks a lot
Jun 05 14:47:48 <orated_> Hello! What is "display 0" in "Server is already active for display 0". I get that line on < sudo startx > on Ubuntu 11.10 Beagleboard B4 when attempting to start lxde
Jun 05 15:02:39 <jkridner> fyi, I just published https://github.com/beagleboard/am335x_pru_package/blob/master/am335xPruReferenceGuide.pdf?raw=true
Jun 05 15:02:59 <jkridner> doesn't have new instructions or the opcode fields.
Jun 05 15:03:02 <jkridner> :(
Jun 05 15:06:50 <kkeller> jkridner:  better then none :)
Jun 05 15:06:54 <koen> when are those coming?
Jun 05 15:07:00 <jkridner> don't know if they ar.
Jun 05 15:07:04 <jkridner> er, are.
Jun 05 15:18:40 <mdp> jkridner, elinux, please
Jun 05 15:18:55 <mdp> lead by example
Jun 05 15:18:57 <jkridner> k, I'll look to update it on the right pages.
Jun 05 15:19:02 <av500> you get pizza
Jun 05 15:19:17 <koen> jkridner: no, it's wiki, you're supposed to update the *wrong* pages
Jun 05 15:19:41 <av500> +1
Jun 05 15:19:42 <emeb> or, create new redundant pages that aren't linked to anything!
Jun 05 15:19:48 <av500> +10
Jun 05 15:20:16 <av500> emeb: a new trend is to use old pages and just update them with "this information is obsolete" in a small font
Jun 05 15:20:25 <emeb> lol
Jun 05 15:21:49 <emeb> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q
Jun 05 15:23:06 <av500> emeb: sure, but keep a copy
Jun 05 16:10:07 <Oleg> Hello! I'm not sure if its the right place to ask, but didn't find any other. Did anyone try to use openbrick with omap3530 (tao3530) device?
Jun 05 16:11:58 <av500> if there is openbrick for the beagle and tao3530 is close to that, it could work
Jun 05 16:14:11 <Mark___> http://elinux.org/index.php?title=Category:ECE497
Jun 05 16:17:48 <koen> jkridner: we need to come up with the new eeprom format ASAP
Jun 05 16:17:54 * koen got sidetracked by the usb stuff
Jun 05 16:18:01 <jkridner> do you have the gaps documented?
Jun 05 16:18:24 <koen> iirc we only need to decide how to place the new pins
Jun 05 16:19:41 <av500> a new format?
Jun 05 16:20:17 <koen> for the cape eeproms
Jun 05 16:20:23 <koen> a6 adds 2 or 3 new pins
Jun 05 16:21:50 <av500> and you did not make it future-proof?
Jun 05 16:25:16 <koen> we never expected to export >46 pins on a 46 pin header :)
Jun 05 16:29:30 <mdp> koen, who is the s/w architect on this project?!? ;)
Jun 05 16:29:53 <koen> architect?
Jun 05 16:29:57 <mdp> hehe
Jun 05 16:30:20 * mdp stares up at the ivory tower above him
Jun 05 16:31:28 <mdp> koen, I will remind you that I said that no matter what you pick…it will be proven wrong later..so no worries
Jun 05 16:32:23 <prpplague> <mdp> koen, I will remind you that I said that no matter you will be proven wrong later..so no worries
Jun 05 16:32:54 <mdp> hey!
Jun 05 16:38:41 <angs> I dont want to use connman, I need to have  /etc/network/interfaces, what should I do?
Jun 05 16:49:59 <VadtecWk> question: (not that im intending to do this, it was a question I was asked) if I wanted to build a BB with 16 ethernet ports, what would be the best way to supply that much power? my idea would be to have a power supply larger than 5V (say 9V) that supplies the BB as well as the extra ethernet hardware... any opinions?
Jun 05 16:50:39 <VadtecWk> though, im thinking something more along the lines of 15V would be required
Jun 05 16:53:33 <waltermixxx> quick question: I downloaded one of the angstrom image files in the angstrom beaglebaord demo folder ( the one with cloud 9) for my beagle board... and actually managed to image an sd card correctly so it boots
Jun 05 16:53:44 <waltermixxx> it even ran cloud9
Jun 05 16:53:46 <waltermixxx> :)
Jun 05 16:54:10 <waltermixxx> just not sure how to translate cloud9 for beagle board... it seems to be aimed at beagle bone...
Jun 05 16:54:25 <waltermixxx> it would be nice to be able to set and reset the gpio's :)
Jun 05 16:56:22 <waltermixxx> Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-eglibc-ipk-v2011.11-core-beagleboard-2011.11.21
Jun 05 16:56:46 <waltermixxx> created the sd card from the .img file contained
Jun 05 16:57:10 <waltermixxx> does this version of th angstrom have a gui? how do I nitiate it :)
Jun 05 16:57:21 <mranostay> prpplague: that isn't cool :)
Jun 05 16:57:56 <prpplague> hehe
Jun 05 16:57:58 <waltermixxx> i logged into cloud9 from my laptop
Jun 05 16:58:24 <waltermixxx> and the inerface comes up... I'm hoping to use it along with my trainer xM ( on it's way from tincantools)
Jun 05 17:24:05 <waltermixxx> quick question... how do I run the testled to test my board?
Jun 05 17:24:33 <guyzmo> !@#$
Jun 05 17:24:39 * guyzmo hates connman
Jun 05 17:24:48 <av500> guyzmo: get in the line
Jun 05 17:24:59 <guyzmo> :)
Jun 05 17:25:49 <guyzmo> from one day to the other, it stopped working
Jun 05 17:26:30 <av500> must be french
Jun 05 17:26:47 <dm8tbr> on strike?
Jun 05 17:28:17 <ogra_> or british ?
Jun 05 17:28:25 <ogra_> slacking with the monarchy ...
Jun 05 17:30:02 <guyzmo> av500 - but I'm french!
Jun 05 17:30:06 <guyzmo> :)
Jun 05 17:30:13 <guyzmo> and I'm not on strike
Jun 05 17:30:17 <guyzmo> got too much work :P
Jun 05 17:32:44 <mranostay> guyzmo: we won't hold the French thing against you. much :)
Jun 05 17:32:54 <guyzmo> hehe
Jun 05 17:33:50 <guyzmo> anyway, I still don't get why angstrom integrated something that is not ready for the real world
Jun 05 17:35:58 <guyzmo> and anyone knows connman voodoo ?
Jun 05 17:36:27 <prpplague> koen: you know no one that actually knows is going to be able to answer your question on g+ re: omap5
Jun 05 17:36:54 <koen> prpplague: it's a rhetorical question
Jun 05 17:38:20 <guyzmo> iinw, I've read that you can add an EEPROM to your cape to configure the MUX settings, but I couldn't find any doc on what to put and how to plug that eeprom
Jun 05 17:38:30 <guyzmo> can you give me some RTFM ?
Jun 05 17:39:10 <waltermixxx>  quick queston folks... on the angstrom text based login, I logged in and now how do I start the GUI? (windows like enviroment) :)
Jun 05 17:40:06 <waltermixxx> its this version of the boot up sd image: Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-eglibc-ipk-v2011.11-core-beagleboard-2011.11.21
Jun 05 17:41:17 <waltermixxx> agnstrom v2011.11-core - kernal 3.0.9 just above the login :)
Jun 05 17:42:31 <koen> waltermixxx: download a newer one with 'GNOME' in the name
Jun 05 17:43:14 <waltermixxx> ok will do,  do you k now if it also has cloud9?  can cloud 9 work with beagleboard xM ?
Jun 05 17:43:50 <waltermixxx> i have it loaded on my current version... but it seems very "bone" centric....
Jun 05 17:43:59 <koen> try and find out
Jun 05 17:44:36 <waltermixxx> not even sure where to start... all the gpio's are referencing the two expansion ports on the beagle bone
Jun 05 17:45:02 <waltermixxx> but yes I will download the newer one that starts with gnome :)
Jun 05 17:45:20 <waltermixxx> and see what I get :)  I just figured someone may have known
Jun 05 17:46:36 <waltermixxx> actually I did download it, jsut expanding it now :)
Jun 05 17:46:56 <waltermixxx> then will try and get it imaged onto my sd card :)
Jun 05 17:58:08 <guyzmo> since https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/beagleboard/40WJbO8s0WM did the eeprom cape stuff evolve ?
Jun 05 18:11:34 <angs> how can I have debian style network management?
Jun 05 18:12:31 <guyzmo> angs - there's a howto remove connman on the web
Jun 05 18:13:17 <guyzmo> http://www.gigamegablog.com/2012/02/06/beaglebone-linux-101-assigning-a-static-ip-address-with-connman/
Jun 05 18:13:26 <guyzmo> http://www.gigamegablog.com/2012/01/29/beaglebone-linux-101-configuring-angstrom-linux/
Jun 05 18:20:22 <angs> thanks guyzmo, I think it explains how to use connman
Jun 05 18:20:35 <ogra_> alternatively use debian :)
Jun 05 18:20:57 <ogra_> (that makes you also get rid of that insanity called systemd ;) )
Jun 05 18:23:23 <angs> thank you, debian should be a less complicated solution to use
Jun 05 18:26:15 <koen> less complicated, a metric ton slower
Jun 05 18:26:44 <ogra_> depends what you use as init
Jun 05 18:26:56 <ogra_> oh, you mean debian itself
Jun 05 18:27:07 <ogra_> yeah ... v4t isnt really speedy i guess
Jun 05 18:27:09 <mdp> koen, how does that compare to a metric shit ton?
Jun 05 18:27:14 <bradfa> debian's not that slow
Jun 05 18:27:51 <agmlego> Well, Debian is not compiled specifically for the processor on the xM.
Jun 05 18:27:55 <ogra_> bradfa, compared to a v7 optimized distro like angstrom it surely is
Jun 05 18:27:56 <bradfa> use armhf
Jun 05 18:28:01 <bradfa> wheezy
Jun 05 18:28:05 <agmlego> ARMHF != ARM7.
Jun 05 18:28:07 <koen> bradfa: you're using the slowest compiler out there, gcc 4.4, you should stay quiet :)
Jun 05 18:28:11 <bradfa> :)
Jun 05 18:28:12 <ogra_> ah, did it make it into the release ?
Jun 05 18:28:15 <jkridner__> argh.  I was editing elinux.org when my computer randomly locked up.
Jun 05 18:28:22 * ogra_ though that wouldnt happen 
Jun 05 18:28:24 <koen> jkridner__: see, wikis are bad
Jun 05 18:28:36 <koen> jkridner__: or did wmat send the pizza thru the intertubes?
Jun 05 18:28:48 <mdp> jkridner__, edit on your mba, that should be reliable
Jun 05 18:28:50 <jkridner__> seems like
Jun 05 18:29:02 <jkridner__> I was editing from my mac pro.
Jun 05 18:29:15 <mdp> time for a new one then
Jun 05 18:30:05 <jkridner__> part of some evil anti-pru conspiracy.
Jun 05 18:31:16 <djlewis> got a virus in that mac even though they tell you it cant happen ;)
Jun 05 18:31:38 <jkridner__> it is x86.  of course it can happen. ;-)
Jun 05 18:31:54 <mdp> I think it's the wrong endianess that does it
Jun 05 18:33:15 <angs> I need to have an ad hoc wlan with beaglebones, connman does not support ad hoc mode. Is there any documentation, instruction how to create ad hoc wlan with beaglebones?
Jun 05 18:34:49 <jkridner__> anybody know what upstream tree the pruss uio driver was submitted to?
Jun 05 18:35:05 <jkridner__> I see a GKH sign-off in the arago hosted tree...
Jun 05 18:35:11 <jkridner__> so I'm thinking it was accepted somewhere...
Jun 05 18:35:16 <jkridner__> but, I don't see it in mainline.
Jun 05 18:35:21 * jkridner__ looks in linux-omap
Jun 05 18:35:30 <mdp> jkridner__, it was in staging for about 5 minutes
Jun 05 18:35:50 <mdp> and greg dumped it due to non-response from next
Jun 05 18:35:52 <jkridner__> is it not in staging anymore!??
Jun 05 18:35:57 <mdp> no
Jun 05 18:36:01 <mdp> not for a long time
Jun 05 18:36:03 <mdp> no maintainer
Jun 05 18:36:24 <mdp> you have to have somebody actively working on something to get it out of staging to be in there
Jun 05 18:36:27 <jkridner__> that's just silly.
Jun 05 18:36:30 <mdp> no
Jun 05 18:36:39 <jkridner__> I mean that no one is working on it...
Jun 05 18:36:40 <jkridner__> not the rule.
Jun 05 18:36:56 <mdp> that was a long time ago you know
Jun 05 18:37:30 <mdp> that's because it was subbed out to a company that couldn't retain the developer
Jun 05 18:37:35 <jkridner__> you'd think I'd be able to at least find commit/revert pairs in the trees.
Jun 05 18:38:02 <jkridner__> on git.kernel.org searches, pruss turns up empty.
Jun 05 18:38:41 <mdp> you know what..it might not have even made it in due to non-response…there's a thread where gregkh just says he's not going to mother-hen any orphaned patches
Jun 05 18:38:58 <mdp> another TI dump and run :)
Jun 05 18:39:34 <denix> :(
Jun 05 18:39:51 <jkridner__> I see it went through 10 revisions...
Jun 05 18:39:58 <mdp> jkridner__, https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/5/31/46
Jun 05 18:39:58 <jkridner__> doesn't seem like a dump and run to me.
Jun 05 18:41:00 <mdp> sure, we have lots of stuff like that…btw, it was at v5
Jun 05 18:41:01 <denix> mdp: hey, stop cursing your employer's name! the beating will continue until morale improves! :)
Jun 05 18:41:42 * mranostay pops on some KMFDM
Jun 05 18:41:45 <jkridner__> odd that http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2011-March/044758.html shows v10.  ah, it is for am1808.
Jun 05 18:42:34 <mdp> denix, no cursing :)
Jun 05 18:44:15 <mdp> jkridner__, needs a complete refactor into a resource management mfd driver anyway
Jun 05 18:44:25 <jkridner__> yeah.
Jun 05 18:44:39 <mdp> as discussed to death before
Jun 05 18:44:40 <jkridner__> mfd uses remoteproc?
Jun 05 18:45:17 <mdp> not inherently, but you can combine lots of different existing tools in a driver :)
Jun 05 18:45:45 <mdp> pruss is simple too flexible to chain it do just being used with uio as an api in userspace
Jun 05 18:46:19 <mdp> remoteproc is just a tool to boot and then use the other related tools
Jun 05 18:48:00 <mdp> jkridner__, good to hear that somebody is picking up with the pruss effort
Jun 05 18:50:39 <Dhiraj> hi jkridner
Jun 05 18:51:12 <jkridner__> hi Dhiraj
Jun 05 18:51:28 <gerardo>    hello this, someone could help me with a BeagleBoard, I configured the kernel to support angstrom LI-5M03 camera, the operating system works, but both the mouse and keyboard do not work and both are plug & play, I can do to fix this
Jun 05 18:51:36 <Dhiraj> i am working in Djabbari, Ali
Jun 05 18:51:44 <Dhiraj> team
Jun 05 18:51:51 <Dhiraj> for the university project
Jun 05 18:52:18 <Dhiraj> as we have discussed about the GPMC driver
Jun 05 18:52:22 <djlewis> gerardo: which beagle and which usb port are you using?
Jun 05 18:52:31 <jkridner__> Dhiraj: I don't think you need to say a lot about your project, just what you are trying to do and what you think should work and what is actually happening.
Jun 05 18:52:42 <Dhiraj> ok
Jun 05 18:52:50 <jkridner__> the topic of the room mentions: Please read http://beagleboard.org/chat for a guide on how to ask questions | don't ask to ask | be patient
Jun 05 18:53:39 <Dhiraj> i am compiling the new version of kernel and checked for a support package for GPMC
Jun 05 18:53:46 <mranostay> heh
Jun 05 18:54:04 <Dhiraj> but i was not able to find any support patch
Jun 05 18:54:55 <gerardo> djlewis is the beagleboard xM
Jun 05 18:55:11 <Dhiraj> does the new version of kernel that is 3.2.18 support gpmc device drivers
Jun 05 18:55:25 <gerardo> and the ports its usb
Jun 05 18:56:33 * jkridner__ looks at http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/AM335x_PSP_User%27s_Guide to see if GPMC configuration is mentioned.
Jun 05 18:57:00 <gerardo>    in none of the four ports works
Jun 05 18:58:56 <riskable> OK, my python-numpy patch was submitted with all the requested changes.  Once that's accepted I'll move on to submitting my new python-matplotlib recipe
Jun 05 18:59:27 <mdp> Dhiraj: you can look at the other examples of gpmc support in the kernel. Specifically, the nand support on the am335xevm which is in that kernel and is a valid example for one type of device configured for the gpmc on Bone.
Jun 05 18:59:30 <riskable> ...and if that works out OK I'll probably have an ipython recipe and maybe some more Python recipes :)
Jun 05 18:59:31 <jkridner__> Dhiraj: It may be that the only docs for using the GPMC are around accessing NAND devices, such as http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/AM335x_NAND_Driver's_Guide
Jun 05 19:00:08 <mdp> I recommend the source code example on top of that though, it's known to work.
Jun 05 19:00:22 <mdp> as opposed to a wiki
Jun 05 19:00:41 <Dhiraj> thank you mdp and jkridner
Jun 05 19:00:46 <jkridner__> well, that wiki page doesn't actually give any APIs for configuring the GPMC.
Jun 05 19:02:24 <mdp> Dhiraj: there's a couple people floating around the channel that have interfaced devices successfully on Bone via GPMC…when you get to some specific question they may chime in
Jun 05 19:04:25 <gerardo>  hello this, someone could help me with a BeagleBoard, I configured the kernel to support angstrom LI-5M03 camera, the operating system works, but both the mouse and keyboard do not work and both are plug & play, I can do to fix this
Jun 05 19:04:30 * jkridner__ welcomes feedback on http://elinux.org/Ti_AM33XX_PRUSSv2
Jun 05 19:04:38 <Dhiraj> mdp: sure, thank you for the information. it seem like the  http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/AM335x_PSP_User%27s_Guide has information for gpmc NAND devices
Jun 05 19:04:52 <jkridner__> gerardo: this is an xM or BeagleBoard?
Jun 05 19:05:18 <jkridner__> if BeagleBoard, are you using a high-speed powered hub?
Jun 05 19:05:33 <gerardo> jkridner__: is xM
Jun 05 19:06:49 <jkridner__> k, so it is likely you didn't enable something when building your kernel.  have you compared your .config to the /proc/config.gz of an image that works?  I'd download a demo image and try that with your mouse and keyboard to verify the hardware.
Jun 05 19:07:13 <jkridner__> also, I believe the LI-5M03 is supported in Angstrom demo images.
Jun 05 19:07:17 <gerardo> mmm
Jun 05 19:07:49 <gerardo> no , i have not
Jun 05 19:08:27 <waltermixxx> Hi Jason :) how goes it?
Jun 05 19:08:30 <gerardo> ok thanks
Jun 05 19:08:40 <gerardo> thenks jkridner__:
Jun 05 19:09:08 <waltermixxx> quick question :) is cloud9 for use with beagle bone only? or will it work with beagle board as well?
Jun 05 19:10:19 <jkridner__> waltermixxx: cloud9 will work with BeagleBoard and xM.
Jun 05 19:10:52 <jkridner__> I haven't put Bonescript on them yet, but I plan to do so.
Jun 05 19:12:55 <aleek> I cant attach gdb to openocd, when debugging -xM, because, while stepping, cpu jumps to 0x8010000c, instead of next instruction. Is it a known problem?
Jun 05 19:12:57 <mdp> Dhiraj, you won't find anything useful for your GPMC configuration in that users guide. You'll want to look at the source arch/arm/mach-omap2/gpmc* for the gpmc helper functions and then look at how that's used in the nand initialization path in board-am335xevm.c. That should give you an idea of what to add for whatever you are interfacing. However, note that there's a lot of nand-specific stuff in that path that maybe you don't care about.
Jun 05 19:13:05 <waltermixxx> cool will you update your blog when you do? :)  I'm reading through your blog post now :)
Jun 05 19:14:03 <jkridner__> I will, but it'll probably be Aug/Sept unless I am prodded to do it sooner.
Jun 05 19:14:17 <jkridner__> if there is something I can enable by doing it, I can be talked into working on it sooner.
Jun 05 19:14:24 <jkridner__> I just have a long list of things to work on.
Jun 05 19:14:29 <waltermixxx> prod prod... :) he he
Jun 05 19:14:34 <waltermixxx> i understand
Jun 05 19:14:35 <waltermixxx> :)
Jun 05 19:14:52 <waltermixxx> i may get a beaglebone in the mean time to tide me over...
Jun 05 19:15:18 <waltermixxx> I have made some progress since yesterday when it arrived...
Jun 05 19:15:52 <waltermixxx> :) I created two bootable sd cards with two differnt versions of the angstrom os. :)
Jun 05 19:16:11 <waltermixxx> just have to figure out how to turn a gpio on and off in python :)
Jun 05 19:16:19 <waltermixxx> i will have to do some reading :)
Jun 05 19:16:33 <jkridner__> great.  if I add xm.js to bonescript, what are you planning to make cool with it?
Jun 05 19:16:49 <jkridner__> well, search for pybbio.py...
Jun 05 19:16:55 <jkridner__> turning GPIOs on/off in Python is easy.
Jun 05 19:17:05 <waltermixxx> ok thanks... thats a handy hint
Jun 05 19:17:21 <waltermixxx> i have to set the mux first for the expansion port
Jun 05 19:17:32 <waltermixxx> I ordered a trainer xM
Jun 05 19:17:41 <waltermixxx> which will make it easier to mess around :)
Jun 05 19:18:00 <waltermixxx> I'm hoping to build an interactive web based activity centre for my dog
Jun 05 19:18:08 <waltermixxx> alas not a beagle... she is a yorkie
Jun 05 19:18:40 <waltermixxx> and this board looks like just the ticket...
Jun 05 19:18:51 <waltermixxx> ( so does the beagle bone...  )
Jun 05 19:19:24 <jkridner__> I'm looking forward to pictures and videos!
Jun 05 19:19:36 <waltermixxx> yup i usually post stuff on youtube
Jun 05 19:19:46 <waltermixxx> my arduino dog treat dispenser is there
Jun 05 19:19:50 <waltermixxx> ( prototype)
Jun 05 19:20:01 <waltermixxx> and my cosmac Elf2000
Jun 05 19:20:13 <waltermixxx> and a couple of other arduino things...
Jun 05 19:21:19 <waltermixxx> or i may build an interactive game show device for my wife who is a teacher... (grade 2)
Jun 05 19:21:50 <waltermixxx> i built one using an atmel 90AT8515 a few years back...
Jun 05 19:22:09 <waltermixxx> using bascom AVR (basic compiler)
Jun 05 19:22:16 <waltermixxx> it's almost done... he he...
Jun 05 19:22:36 <waltermixxx> i may revisit the project and modernize it so she can hook it up to her classroom projector
Jun 05 19:22:44 <waltermixxx> with the beagle board.
Jun 05 19:22:51 <waltermixxx> or bone...
Jun 05 19:22:52 <waltermixxx> :)
Jun 05 19:23:36 <waltermixxx> i downloaded a book on python for my ipad, I will have to study that
Jun 05 19:26:11 <waltermixxx> wow did an opkg update and it's taking forever... :)
Jun 05 19:26:31 <waltermixxx> it appears to be checking every file on the sd card and updating it if required. :)
Jun 05 19:26:58 <waltermixxx> been running for at least 40 minutes or so... it's kinda cool knowing it will have the latest files when it's done
Jun 05 19:27:25 <waltermixxx> it might have been opkg upgrade instead...
Jun 05 19:27:31 <waltermixxx> i don't recall,
Jun 05 19:27:56 <waltermixxx> but it's motoring allong removing obsolete files, and downloading new ones...
Jun 05 19:28:25 <aholler> | tee irc
Jun 05 19:28:30 <waltermixxx> currently in the user/share/cloud9/support/jsdav/support/etc....
Jun 05 19:28:32 <waltermixxx> folder
Jun 05 19:29:03 <waltermixxx> question:
Jun 05 19:29:16 <aholler> we only accept quick questions
Jun 05 19:29:25 <djlewis> times up
Jun 05 19:29:33 <waltermixxx> i used an 8 gig sd card for one of the img files for a 4 gig sd card
Jun 05 19:29:44 <waltermixxx> now the card shows up as a 4 gig sd card...
Jun 05 19:30:06 <waltermixxx> a guy has a turorial on how to correct that on raspberry pi
Jun 05 19:30:11 <aholler> use parted
Jun 05 19:30:15 <aholler> or gparted
Jun 05 19:30:29 <waltermixxx> gparted will allow me to expand the partition?
Jun 05 19:30:35 <waltermixxx> without distroying the data?
Jun 05 19:30:47 <waltermixxx> cool :)
Jun 05 19:30:55 <waltermixxx> i will have to look into that as well :)
Jun 05 19:32:14 <waltermixxx> downloading gparted now
Jun 05 19:32:18 <jkridner__> after gparted, I think you have to run resizefs
Jun 05 19:32:41 <waltermixxx> that sounds like a command line thing? or is that an app as well :)?
Jun 05 19:32:59 <jkridner__> google returns http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_resizing_ext3_partitions
Jun 05 19:33:07 <jkridner__> perhaps gparted does it.
Jun 05 19:33:15 <waltermixxx> ok thanks for the link :)
Jun 05 19:33:34 <waltermixxx> i will have a read through.
Jun 05 19:33:38 <jkridner__> google also returns http://www.howtoforge.com/partitioning_with_gparted
Jun 05 19:35:23 <waltermixxx> read through them on the train home :) thanks again
Jun 05 19:45:36 <mdp> aholler, did you open a support ticket yet?
Jun 05 19:47:18 <aholler> mdp: for what?
Jun 05 19:48:14 <mdp> question you answered…need to track your performance
Jun 05 19:49:33 <aholler> you want to measure light speed? it's already done…
Jun 05 19:50:05 <mdp> you should be promoted to L2 support
Jun 05 19:50:39 <waltermixxx> wow this upgrade is still going...
Jun 05 20:28:57 <waltermixxx> finished downloading all the updates, now it's doing the :update-alternatives: linking //bin/xxx/xxxx stuff now :)
Jun 05 20:35:01 <waltermixxx> finished
Jun 05 20:35:16 <waltermixxx> lets see what kind of a mess i created
Jun 05 20:35:22 <waltermixxx> rebooting
Jun 05 20:35:47 <waltermixxx> orange screen, then the orange beagle board.org graphic
Jun 05 20:36:13 <waltermixxx> ok got my login screen
Jun 05 20:44:16 <djlewis> a first ? after a upgrade?
Jun 05 20:52:08 <ds2> did someone anger the pru gods?
Jun 05 20:52:34 <Russ> my bad, I blasphemed earier
Jun 05 20:54:28 <ds2> now you're going to get real time wrath
Jun 05 20:54:31 <fiola> Russ:  You said "Oracle"?
Jun 05 20:56:30 <Russ> lets not get them is a worse mood then they already are by bringing up bad memories
Jun 05 20:57:18 <av500> Russ: there are no bad memories, just wrong DRAM timings....
Jun 05 20:57:28 * fiola lights a beagle-scented jostick to appease the heavens
Jun 05 22:26:10 <peeyush> anyone knows where is R6 resister in beagleboardXM ?
Jun 05 22:26:38 <peeyush> i have to measure voltage drop against it
Jun 05 22:28:32 <mranostay> look?
Jun 05 23:09:47 <ds2> any one venus'ing?
Jun 05 23:11:12 <djlewis> i will be in a little while.
Jun 05 23:11:35 <djlewis> astro club members have equipment set up out of town on my way home.
Jun 05 23:11:37 <mranostay> venusing?
Jun 05 23:12:08 <djlewis> mranostay: put your welding glasses on and have a look at the sun. That dot is Venus
Jun 05 23:17:27 <Russ> ya, its pretty neat
Jun 05 23:21:15 <ds2> djlewis: can you see it that far east?
Jun 05 23:23:45 <djlewis> ds2: until the sun goes down
Jun 05 23:25:52 <mranostay> then it is time to party?
Jun 05 23:25:56 <djlewis> ds2: I think here it seems to make a small arc  rather than a straight line orbit
Jun 05 23:26:16 <av500> it's all staged
Jun 05 23:26:28 <djlewis> mranostay: time to go home and attend to a couple of stray pups I acquired last evening.
Jun 05 23:26:36 <djlewis> covered with seed and regular ticks.
Jun 05 23:27:57 <djlewis> a friend just delivered some food and flea and tick killer for them.
Jun 05 23:28:05 <djlewis> foos for pups, that is
Jun 05 23:28:11 <djlewis> s/foos/food
Jun 05 23:30:28 <Russ> covered with seed?
Jun 05 23:30:31 <Russ> are they chia pets?
Jun 05 23:31:46 <ipersite> hi everybody
Jun 05 23:33:04 <ipersite> i have a question: i hust installed the ubuntu server image on the sd card and put it on the beaglebone
Jun 05 23:33:10 <ipersite> it doesn't work.
Jun 05 23:33:35 <ipersite> some people told me that the kernel isn't correct for the bone.
Jun 05 23:33:44 <ipersite> so... where can i get the working one?
Jun 05 23:34:08 <ipersite> thanks. i'm going to sleep but i'll keep the connection open.
Jun 05 23:46:32 <mranostay> heh
Jun 05 23:46:46 <mranostay> free the connections!
Jun 06 00:08:23 <aholler> since when does google fill idle connections?
Jun 06 00:16:21 <ds2> hmmm pinhole is not enough zoom
Jun 06 00:23:22 <mranostay> ds2: look directly into the sun
Jun 06 00:32:48 <ds2> not enough zoom to look directly at sun
Jun 06 00:33:29 <mranostay> ds2: use your bare eyes!
Jun 06 00:34:24 <ds2> yes... need more zooms.. .need borg implants
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