**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 13 02:59:58 2012 Jun 13 03:00:14 question: does the beagle bone boot from sd like the beagleboard xm? Jun 13 03:00:22 Yep Jun 13 03:00:22 yes Jun 13 03:00:32 MicroSD Jun 13 03:00:39 and doe it also require MLO, uboot.bin, uImage as well? Jun 13 03:00:53 yes Jun 13 03:01:11 will the instructions work on both devices? Jun 13 03:01:17 yes, they should Jun 13 03:02:09 will have a peek... Jun 13 03:02:35 say, does it have a gui (gnome kinda thing) or is it all command line based ( which is totally fine ) Jun 13 03:03:12 with this guide? no gui Jun 13 03:03:19 it just loads up a minimal install Jun 13 03:03:43 but you can install slapt-get and pull any package you want in Jun 13 03:03:58 i run blackbox on mine Jun 13 03:05:47 I don't intend to run an X server on mine, but will try running clients pointing DISPLAY to an external X11 box Jun 13 03:06:19 i have four projects going on lol Jun 13 03:06:29 two of which require an x server Jun 13 03:06:45 Wish I had but 4, hehe Jun 13 03:07:25 Cool, going to be following your progress with that Jake Jun 13 03:08:08 ok Jakeday, I'm going try your document out on my beagle board xM... might I trouble you with questions should they arrise along the way ( asuming you are available to answer them?) Jun 13 03:08:40 i have an 8 gig sd card ready to wipe. and I have an ubuntu laptop Jun 13 03:08:49 on which I will be doing this.... Jun 13 03:14:49 yeah Jun 13 03:15:01 ok he's gone lol Jun 13 03:15:50 fiola: let me know what you think when you play with it. again, hopefully it will be upstream soon Jun 13 03:16:03 of course i'm going to be the official maintainer lol Jun 13 03:16:15 anyway, off to bed Jun 13 03:20:10 hello Jun 13 03:20:34 jakeday: yep will try, will have to pop out and get some more SD cards first. NN :-) Jun 13 03:21:47 well i got my ethernet and audio driver modules installed on the 2012.05 angstrom Jun 13 03:22:14 i built the image with OE bitbake, then installed some more stuff Jun 13 03:51:08 i tried to join #ubuntu-arm and got into the channel, but when I type anyting i get "cannot send to channel:#ubuntu-arm" how do I get permission to participate? anyone here on that chat as well ? Jun 13 03:57:21 waltermixxx: there shouldn't be any restrictions on the channel Jun 13 03:58:22 waltermixxx: unless your network ip has been blocked for some reason Jun 13 03:58:43 == Cannot send to channel: #ubuntu-arm Jun 13 03:58:49 that is what I get... Jun 13 03:58:56 same ip address I use here... Jun 13 03:58:57 :) Jun 13 03:59:10 waltermixxx: each channel can implement their own restrictions Jun 13 03:59:31 so my ip may be restricted... ok Jun 13 03:59:41 not sure why, first time in... :) Jun 13 03:59:50 i got the same thing Jun 13 04:02:05 i managed to get my ubuntu image to boot, first time going in, it's configuring things :) Jun 13 04:02:34 prpplague, which distro would you recommend for use with the trainer xM board I ordered? Jun 13 04:02:49 is there one that is more friendly to handing gpio's ? Jun 13 04:03:05 waltermixxx: i have no preference, angstrom is my suggestion best for hacking around Jun 13 04:03:26 okie doke... I have one of those working... do you know if the arduino ide will work on it? Jun 13 04:03:51 only if you are using an external programmer Jun 13 04:05:00 ok. Jun 13 04:05:28 i think they website says that about the arduino that is on the trainer xM Jun 13 04:05:39 an external programmer required. Jun 13 04:05:48 through the isp Jun 13 04:05:50 connector Jun 13 04:06:46 what is the best way to access the gpio pins on the expansion port? Jun 13 04:06:53 for use on theboard.? Jun 13 04:06:58 what might you recommend? Jun 13 04:06:59 :) Jun 13 04:09:51 waltermixxx: check out the text over in #ubuntu-arm Jun 13 04:09:57 waltermixxx: what irc client are you using? Jun 13 04:10:11 i just did... +c and +n, not sure what that means... Jun 13 04:10:15 I used the web interface Jun 13 04:10:29 the same one I would join the #beagleboard Jun 13 04:10:40 via beagleboard/chat Jun 13 04:10:45 waltermixxx: ahh Jun 13 04:10:48 :) Jun 13 04:10:48 waltermixxx: yea that is why Jun 13 04:10:50 Linux is Linux. There isn't really a more or less friendly distro for accessing GPIOs. From user-space, your options are limited to what's possible in the *nix model. If you want comprehensive hardware interfacing, you're better off using an AVR or an embedded ARM, which can then talk to Linux at a higher level. Jun 13 04:11:26 like using an arduino to handle the i/o and have it talk to the beagleboard... Jun 13 04:11:33 Yep Jun 13 04:11:35 there was a post about that today I think Jun 13 04:11:49 on facebook or the main beagleboard.org site, Jun 13 04:11:51 fiola: yes that is true in most causes, however, different builds for things like ubuntu can be a lot more difficult to customize for use with hacking, it is a topic that is already being discussed with canonical Jun 13 04:12:02 Then you don't have to worry about realtime and so on, since the low level micro will always be realtime. Jun 13 04:12:42 hi Jun 13 04:12:43 prpplague: Canonical seem to be doing their level best to ignore what users want these days Jun 13 04:12:46 I will have to check the ubuntu software area to see if there is an IRC chat client for ubuntu Jun 13 04:13:14 see if that will help the #ubuntu-arm issue Jun 13 04:13:16 :) Jun 13 04:13:24 HI MArk ur look younger today Jun 13 04:13:35 fiola: hehe, they tend to not ignore those who are paying them, hehe Jun 13 04:13:43 waltermixxx: there literally a hundred Jun 13 04:13:54 "Pay"? Not heard that word before :P Jun 13 04:13:55 okie doke... :) Jun 13 04:14:05 thanks again for your help with that... Jun 13 04:14:06 :) Jun 13 04:14:22 now if only I can get ubuntu to see my keyboard and mouse... :) Jun 13 04:14:36 so I can go through the initial setup on the beagle board... :) Jun 13 04:15:14 fiola: after all, canonical is a for profit business Jun 13 04:15:28 (ubuntu booted...but no mouse action, and no keyboard action yet... but the micro sd is being accessed a lot... Jun 13 04:15:29 :) Jun 13 04:15:41 Good Morning. I'm demoing IRC to my Beagle Workshop in Bangalore Jun 13 04:16:43 MarkAYoder: hey Mark Jun 13 04:17:07 MarkAYoder: you actually in Bangalore? Jun 13 04:18:03 Yes I am. The weather is very nice here. Jun 13 04:18:29 MarkAYoder: Dandy! Jun 13 04:18:30 prpplague: A for-profit business can't afford to ignore any of its customers, including non-paying ones. That's because if it does, their community will shrink, and then the paying customers move to wherever the community has gone. Jun 13 04:18:57 fiola: hehe, i have some disagreement with those statements Jun 13 04:19:39 Hi check my Web www.udumalaiinfo.com Jun 13 04:20:25 * prpplague looks at Boobal 's web page Jun 13 04:21:32 Canonical's success rides on the back of their popularity, and the vast majority of that popularity is non-paying. Lose the non-payers and they have no business at all, because corp business can just as easily move to RedHat if it wants support. Jun 13 04:22:25 * prpplague disagrees with that as well Jun 13 04:23:26 Boobal: you need a nice google maps link for those folks who aren't familiar with Indian Geography.... Jun 13 04:23:42 hi all,how to install all qt librarys in beaglebone. Jun 13 04:23:44 howdy Jun 13 04:24:08 switched to xchat on linux :) Jun 13 04:24:28 going to try #ubuntu now, thanks for the tip prpplague :) Jun 13 04:25:02 prpplague: Everyone is free to disagree, but reasons are needed if it's to be convincing. :P Jun 13 04:25:28 * prpplague wishes he could discuss it with fiola , but he can not Jun 13 04:26:19 Processor : ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l),kernel is Linux beaglebone 3.2.5+ Jun 13 04:26:40 * fiola gives prpplague a cookie in lieu of discussion :P Jun 13 04:27:01 hehe Jun 13 04:27:15 fiola: seriously i wish i could go into details..... Jun 13 04:29:15 I wish I knew why I'm cooking dinner at 0528 in the morning Jun 13 04:30:36 lol Jun 13 04:32:08 solution pls... Jun 13 04:41:48 solution pls Jun 13 04:44:03 how to install qll qt librarys in beaglebone.beaglebone processor is:ARM7 Processor rev 2(v71l),kernel islinux beaglebone 3.2.5+ Jun 13 04:44:13 solution pls... Jun 13 04:58:52 ho ho hum Jun 13 04:59:24 prpplague is bored Jun 13 04:59:37 emeb_mac: network oddities Jun 13 05:00:01 same-ol' same-ol' Jun 13 05:00:02 emeb_mac: can't tell if my son is doing something gobbling up some bandwidth or if the net connection is being flaky Jun 13 05:00:15 torrents of pr0n. Jun 13 05:01:01 or else someone is jammin' ur wifis Jun 13 05:02:33 prpplague always blame your son. Jun 13 05:02:37 or a printer. Jun 13 05:02:38 pron for sure Jun 13 05:02:43 those things are network nightmares. Jun 13 05:02:45 or the dog. Jun 13 05:02:55 * mranostay remembers porn over dialup Jun 13 05:03:01 lololol Jun 13 05:03:06 That must've been fun. Jun 13 05:05:13 there's no technological achievement that hasn't ultimately been used for pr0n... Jun 13 05:05:16 HI i am with Mark Yoder in beagleboard workshop bangalore 0india Jun 13 05:05:58 KeatonT: yea, he does a lot of Steam development, so he gobbles up the bandwidth.... Jun 13 05:06:35 Boobal: greetings Jun 13 05:08:47 Yoder? the amish have beaglebones? Jun 13 05:10:37 mranostay: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard_Education_Workshops Jun 13 05:13:17 hmm Jun 13 05:15:30 Hello, I am wondering if the beaglebone comes with ActiveX capabilities, or if I would need to configure it to be able to use ActiveX Jun 13 05:16:32 <_av500_> no activeX,Y or Z Jun 13 05:18:53 ucsd_191: port windows mobile to beagleboard and you're done Jun 13 05:20:26 hehehe Jun 13 05:22:10 <_av500_> run win8 in qemu Jun 13 05:22:47 how to install all qt library packages in beaglebone using opkg. Jun 13 05:23:25 * mranostay bows to the king troll _av500_ Jun 13 05:23:38 Tamilarasi: opkg install qt4 ? Jun 13 05:26:18 oh did my solutions post not come through before my net issues? Jun 13 05:27:28 i tried it's showing error "Unknown package 'qt4'.Collected errors: * opkg_install_cmd: Cannot install package qt4.".how to rectify this problem. Jun 13 05:59:12 i have tried "opkg install qt4" ,but it's showing error "Unknown package 'q4'. Collected errors is opkg_install_cmd: Cannot install package q4." how to solve this problem. Jun 13 06:01:43 did you do opkg update? Jun 13 06:01:47 Don't have my BeagleBone on atm, but I seem to recall that "opkg list | grep qt" was advisable first to see what package names are known. Jun 13 06:01:55 ^ Jun 13 06:02:56 After doing the opkg update as KeatonT says, otherwise your system won't know about external packages Jun 13 06:04:02 I had an issue not being able to install packages with opkg once. Jun 13 06:04:19 Then I realized the device wasn't able to get past the NAT for some reason. Jun 13 06:04:20 lol Jun 13 06:05:38 Good ol' NAT, everyone loves it and everyone hates it. Freud would be enjoying himself :P Jun 13 06:05:54 lol Jun 13 06:06:10 Honestly I can't stand angstrom for some reason. Jun 13 06:06:44 Main reason is prolly that it's OE'ish rather than straight-up Linux. Jun 13 06:08:25 Given the power of Beagle* boards, I'm kind of surprised Angstrom is the default, because really it's intended for much less capable systems. Jun 13 06:14:39 What really got me was the closing terminal on the bone and it killing all the processes spawned from that session. Jun 13 06:15:01 I had Debian installed by the end of the day. lol Jun 13 06:15:18 * fiola chuckles Jun 13 06:15:28 Debian runs fantastic. Jun 13 06:15:36 Thing is a little power house. Jun 13 06:15:46 I do need a lighter database though. Jun 13 06:16:10 Obtained from Debian themselves? Jun 13 06:16:32 If you have the sxpecific link, I'd be obliged Jun 13 06:16:51 http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian Jun 13 06:16:58 Cheers Jun 13 06:17:54 mysql is a little heavy for the bone. Jun 13 06:18:22 Works though. Jun 13 06:18:50 Debian needs a DB? Or is that just because users typically want it? Jun 13 06:19:56 It's for my beaglebone power project. Jun 13 06:20:00 sqlite ftw Jun 13 06:20:16 Flat files FTW :P Jun 13 06:20:56 if you like handrolling, sure Jun 13 06:21:08 waste of time, though Jun 13 06:21:34 SpiceMan waste of time? Jun 13 06:21:37 for what? Jun 13 06:22:04 Actually, just the opposite. I rest my case on Firefox, which became a good 100 times slower on bookmark operation when they switched from flat XML files to Sqlite. Jun 13 06:22:32 KeatonT: for the coder. that's all the time that matters. Jun 13 06:22:45 yea but for sqlite? Jun 13 06:24:47 nevermind, this conversation is a waste of time too :p Jun 13 06:28:33 lol Jun 13 06:30:56 > Jun 13 06:32:14 < Jun 13 06:32:41 | Jun 13 06:33:43 { Jun 13 07:56:02 Why use a relational DB at all? There are plenty of good nonrel databases out there Jun 13 08:02:07 and what should make them better? Years of experience in using and developing them? Jun 13 08:02:28 there are always csv files Jun 13 08:02:43 good morning Jun 13 08:03:39 i'm trying running a toolchain qte in qt creator, but i have some problem. I see i can use qmake2 from command line, but i preferer enable the build in qt creator Jun 13 08:11:29 so i select qmake in tool/library but its says no ABI detected Jun 13 08:16:34 just your favorite fs, it has everything a no*-db has ;) Jun 13 08:46:31 i did opkg update.It is showing "opkg_download: Failed to download http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/core/ipk/eglibc/armv7a/base/." like collection of errors Jun 13 08:49:14 Tamilarasi: are you sure having correct ip? Jun 13 08:51:13 yes,i'm having correct ip and internet is working perfectly... Jun 13 08:52:12 my ip is 192.168.0.113 Jun 13 08:52:51 Hi together Jun 13 08:54:28 Some one here with experience of attaching a SPI ethernet device (ENC28J60) to the beaglebone and becoming it recognized as additional ethernet interface? Maybe that's not 100% beaglebone specific... Jun 13 08:56:22 jancux: should be doable Jun 13 08:56:33 there were e.g. addon baords for the beagle that had spi ethernet Jun 13 08:57:11 git grep -i enc28j60 Jun 13 08:58:37 I think so too :-) Asked google but did not find a howto yet - as far as I can see the default mux of the SPI pins is set to gpio mostly Jun 13 08:58:57 @aholler: in kernel repo? or a diiferent one? Jun 13 09:00:13 ios repo Jun 13 09:01:00 ios? Jun 13 09:03:02 aholler: where can I find that repo? don't know about it Jun 13 09:04:02 it was a stupid answer to a clever question Jun 13 09:32:06 \o/ Monsoon season started Jun 13 09:33:47 aka German summer Jun 13 09:35:17 hmm, the indian participiants obviously like to reply. ;) Jun 13 09:36:34 still waiting here.expected time here is end of June Jun 13 09:59:59 how to connect picocom in beaglebone Jun 13 10:00:27 picocom package is already installed Jun 13 10:01:38 i am getting connection error FATAL: failed to add device /dev/ttyS1: Filedes is not a tty Jun 13 10:02:24 try ttyO1 Jun 13 10:03:25 same error " cannot open /dev/tty01: No such file or directory" Jun 13 10:04:28 O != 0 Jun 13 10:06:38 Texan math.... Jun 13 10:08:41 http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/3 Jun 13 10:09:20 0map Jun 13 10:09:37 0m4p Jun 13 10:10:26 4p? is the omap5 out in the wild? Jun 13 10:10:50 remember that poster with OMPA3 in large print? Jun 13 10:11:04 no Jun 13 10:11:10 well, there was one Jun 13 10:11:53 Ompa til du dør Jun 13 10:12:36 thank you for your kind answer.My terminal hasbeen ready but unable send and receive datas and cannot type anything. Jun 13 10:13:20 just have read an interview with richard templeton, very funny. Jun 13 10:14:45 hi Jun 13 10:15:15 hey everyone. i'm still having a time trying to get JTAG working on the beaglebone with gdb... Jun 13 10:16:09 openocd appears to connect fine, but it doesnt work with gdb. anyone on now that has some experience working with the beaglebone JTAg and gdb on linux? Jun 13 10:16:58 I tried to install pycurl on my beaglebone, and there's no uptodate package for last angstrom. so I installed it using setuptools, but the compilation failed with a "ld was not configured with sysroots" error. looking for references of sysroot in /usr, I found out curl-config, and /usr/lib/python2.7/config/Makefile contains inline references to '/OE/tentacle/build/tmp-angstrom_2010_x-eglibc/sysroots/beagleboard' Jun 13 10:17:11 removing those made the packages compile and work perfectly Jun 13 10:17:27 but I think that's something that needs to get patched at package generation Jun 13 10:17:51 * tasslehoff listens to 'Ompa til du dør' Jun 13 10:21:19 well if anyone thinks they might know about beaglebone JTAG, i can provide some more specific error messages and whatnot. if "DSCR_DTR_RX_FULL" means anything to anyone, i'd love to have a chat with you. Jun 13 10:22:07 kilovolt: I would ask in some more openocd oriented place Jun 13 10:24:03 alright, ill go bug the openocd channel again i suppose. a week ago they redirected me to the mailing list and said theyd take a look, but they havent bothered to even respond. busy guys i guess. Jun 13 10:24:56 i was just hoping to grab a .cfg for openocd and version numbers for openocd and gdb from someone who had it working. ive compiled gdb several times now, and tried the sourcery build. theyre all different Jun 13 10:25:38 maybe if you would provide more detailed desriptions, people would answer Jun 13 10:26:49 what information do you need? i dont want to post 7000 pages of logs or whatever to everyone on this irc channel.... very little information i have is likely to be useful. Jun 13 10:27:33 besides, im not sure how muh more detailed i can get other than "if you have it working, i want your .cfg file." Jun 13 10:28:15 since that is all i really want at the moment... Jun 13 10:28:31 so you exclude everone who does not use openocd Jun 13 10:29:53 well... yeah. CCSv5 works ok, but i dont use CCSv5. or, id rather not have to... Jun 13 11:45:27 i am using picocom in beagleboard for uart communication.both terminal hasbeen opened but data is not sending and receiving.where is the problem Jun 13 11:46:41 i opened Rx terminal using 'ssh' as a remote login Jun 13 11:58:13 unable to send and receive data in beaglebone using UART in picocom terminal Jun 13 12:00:57 solution pls... Jun 13 12:03:34 u can always probe the lines using multimeter Jun 13 12:03:50 to see if data coming or not...... Jun 13 12:08:37 hitlin37: multimeter pls... Jun 13 12:10:01 :) Jun 13 12:54:15 what is the state of the mainline kernel on something like an overo? Jun 13 12:54:50 ~54 Jun 13 14:50:57 guys i need how can i use qt4-embedded library to cross-building my application on beagleboard any hints? Jun 13 14:52:40 you want to use a cross-compiler on the beagleboard? That's a new one... Jun 13 14:58:55 dm8tbr: maybe for x86 Jun 13 15:24:52 I have an gcc-avr and gcc-msp on my beagleboard ;) Jun 13 15:25:30 aholler: you sir, win two internets today! Jun 13 15:25:34 now, if you had an gcc-pic on your msp..... Jun 13 15:27:46 aholler, a launchbeagleduinopad development system? Jun 13 15:29:00 bradfa: So, I solved that problem. Jun 13 15:29:09 bradfa: I saw someone else here say "The block sizes have to be even" Jun 13 15:29:48 bradfa: That struck me as odd, but given how byte alignment can be important...I setup a FAT partition with an even # of blocks and it worked perfectly. Jun 13 15:35:44 av500: i have Jun 13 15:35:55 Sh0rtWave: ah, you ran into the 'special relativistic characteristic of FAT32 in OMAP ROMBL'... Jun 13 15:36:33 av500: at least my lanchpad is able to program 3.3v pics ;) Jun 13 15:41:37 not that I know which compiler one would use for pics. I just had the need to put some firmware on a pic. Jun 13 15:43:35 yah comcast? http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-protests-shake-down-of-alleged-bittorrent-pirates-120612/ Jun 13 15:46:11 mranostay: must be part of the fight over net neutrality Jun 13 15:46:22 I dont believe comcast does that just like that Jun 13 15:50:16 av500: my favorite "FBI Did Not Steal Megaupload Evidence Because It’s “Digital”?" Jun 13 15:50:40 you can have it both ways it seems Jun 13 15:50:47 mdp: it's comfortable to not have the need to have a cross-compiler on a pc which changes regulary. the ones on the beagle can get old and rusty and will still be functional Jun 13 15:51:11 yeah you have tot WD-40 that **** :) Jun 13 15:51:54 mranostay: oh please, not MU :) Jun 13 16:04:28 need backlist a usb3 module, what's the way to do it under angstrom? Jun 13 16:07:29 delete it :) Jun 13 16:07:58 mru: i actually need it afterwards, our system is so 'complicated' we do setpci then load modules Jun 13 16:07:59 too easy! Jun 13 16:08:20 you have a beagle with pci? Jun 13 16:08:27 and usb3 Jun 13 16:08:38 someone build usb3 into a beagle kernel? forusage with an usb223-dongle? Jun 13 16:08:39 i use angstrom that runs on a board with usb3, it's not beagle, it's 8160 Jun 13 16:08:39 the usb3 could be attached to the pci Jun 13 16:08:42 sorry, 8168 Jun 13 16:08:45 Sh0rtWave, the even block sizes for FAT issue should only hit you when you try to boot, not when you try to format ext2/3/4 Jun 13 16:10:19 Sh0rtWave: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/pandaboard/ro5k5r4Cuq4/discussion Jun 13 16:10:55 Sh0rtWave, what I saw you doing was having issues with formatting ext3 and it looked like you had a bad SD card / reader / computer Jun 13 16:11:35 Sh0rtWave, if you fixed that, and then had issues with booting, then the FAT even blocks might play in Jun 13 16:12:04 av500: you've crossposted that? Jun 13 16:12:13 beagle and panda Jun 13 16:12:17 applies to both Jun 13 16:12:26 and the bone? Jun 13 16:12:31 av500, and I assume all other TI Cortex-A8s, no? Jun 13 16:13:08 aholler: bone I dont have the docs Jun 13 16:13:15 maybe its "fixed" Jun 13 16:13:25 bradfa: probably a lot of them Jun 13 16:16:45 bradfa: hrm, then I don't know. Jun 13 16:17:29 Sh0rtWave, if it's working, that's good. finding out why would be nice but having it work is good enough, unless it comes back Jun 13 16:18:28 bradfa: I'll pay close attention Jun 13 16:19:20 Where I'm stuck now Jun 13 16:19:40 is figuring out how to get bitbake to handle doing the defconfig stuff for my camera Jun 13 16:20:57 Sh0rtWave, I'm not the guy for that, I stay as far away from OpenEmbedded/Yocto/Arago/Angstrom as I can Jun 13 16:21:11 heh, what would you suggest then? Jun 13 16:21:20 I just want camera captures and some OpenCV action Jun 13 16:21:29 And be able to have two cameras on one bus. Jun 13 16:21:33 (yeah, I'm that insane) Jun 13 16:21:38 * bradfa sighs at OpenCV mention... Jun 13 16:22:01 Sh0rtWave, the mailing list has lots of threads with OpenCV in them Jun 13 16:22:26 I was wondering if it was possible to put motion detection onto the cameraboard's firmware and somehow use a GPIO line for motion-detection sensing. Jun 13 16:22:56 That gets into a whole other world tho, or now my development is simple given that I just got started. Jun 13 16:24:15 for now, that is Jun 13 16:28:00 Unrelated question: What ever happened to the Beagleboard podcast? Jun 13 16:29:03 presumable the same as with all hypes ;) Jun 13 16:31:52 and podcasts are something foreigners have to concentrate to follow, especially when slang is involved Jun 13 16:32:11 folksy trendy slangy slang Jun 13 16:32:52 and you can't read them while stuck on a conf call Jun 13 16:33:40 bradfa, you should suggest that the beagle* podcast is needed to defend against the RPi barbarian horde Jun 13 16:33:57 * mdp gives bradfa more blog material Jun 13 16:34:26 * bradfa sharpens pointy stick for RPi barbarian horde attack, he's heard they come in swarms! Jun 13 16:34:34 mru, that's definitely what I detest about video-based material Jun 13 16:34:50 but the horde speaks british english, that is at least understable ;) Jun 13 16:35:03 aholler, not to me! ;) Jun 13 16:35:20 not that I ever heard a single podcast ;) Jun 13 16:36:10 aholler: me neither Jun 13 16:36:37 mdp: just pop on subtitles :) Jun 13 16:37:09 but I still remember when I was at a nato-unit (25a ago) and a black us man opened the door of our truck and started to speak at us in some brightest slang no one of us did understood ;) Jun 13 16:37:12 hi jkridner. Jun 13 16:37:22 They used to be on the blogger blog Jun 13 16:37:38 now I think they might be on iTunes: http://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/beagleboard/id426484960 Jun 13 16:37:43 not sure if those are the same ones Jun 13 16:38:42 my beagleboard Trainer xM arrived :) cannot wait to mess it up, I mean mess around with it... :) Jun 13 16:38:44 hi mdp. Jun 13 16:42:54 that was the time I learned that american people tend to assume everyone understands them ;) Jun 13 16:43:46 they do Jun 13 16:43:49 :) Jun 13 16:44:34 aholler, I have that problem with understanding the south boston dialect Jun 13 16:45:32 aholler, we will just speak *really* slowly ;) Jun 13 16:46:15 that one didn't he spoke like a waterfall ;) Jun 13 16:46:36 and because he knew we are germans it was that remarkable ;) Jun 13 16:47:34 hi mdp, thank you for your help yesterday. Jun 13 16:47:53 hi Dhiraj, any further? Jun 13 16:48:13 * ogra_ sends aholler to the scottish countryside to train a bit Jun 13 16:48:40 i was not able to make any progress, still trying to find the cause of a bus error Jun 13 16:48:50 if you understand the scots you will understand every english dialect :) Jun 13 16:49:41 that's one where I find I need that f2f assist to follow Jun 13 16:50:49 mdp:did you get the same error when you try to access gpmc? Jun 13 16:51:15 i mean read or write to gpmc device. Jun 13 16:51:51 koen, dvi-d enable pull down for dvi cape is not required anymore right, its still in the code though Jun 13 16:53:02 no, though I think I might have duplicated your particular bus error when using the same address base and mask..whereas I recall not seeing it when seeing the address base at 0x100000 Jun 13 16:53:11 Dhiraj, O Jun 13 16:53:46 Dhiraj: I'll see about setting that back up at some point to check Jun 13 16:55:26 sure that would be great help. Jun 13 16:56:09 but it seems when device is not responsive the processor gives a bus error. Jun 13 16:57:29 so does that mean gpmc is not responsive or the device we are trying to read or write is not responsive? Jun 13 16:58:12 well, if I dig it up, I can show you a working example of gpmc reading a faux device by simply configuring for async/8-bit and adjusting pinmux pullups/downs accordingly..so if the gpmc is configured correctly for a mode, you can see it read data without having anything connected Jun 13 16:59:22 working some other things right now, but I'll try to find my script and share Jun 13 17:00:34 another reason I should publicly document this stuff at the time I do it I guess ;) Jun 13 17:03:47 sure :), that would great. Jun 13 17:04:54 thank you for help. i will let you know on the progress. Jun 13 17:15:19 hi jkridner, Jun 13 17:26:24 this looks like a great article on programming the beaglebone and beagle board from your pc or mac using c++ :) http://mechomaniac.com/BeagleboardDevelopmentWithNetbeans Jun 13 17:31:42 hello Jun 13 17:33:04 Dhiraj, what exactly are you referring to by a "bus error", I'm using the gpmc with no problems Jun 13 17:47:24 hi jsabeaudry, i am trying to read a device attached to gpmc. it is configured in async. 8-bit mode. I receive a message saying: "Unhandled fault: external abort on non-linefetch (0x018) @ 0x..., BUS ERROR". Could you tell me what kernel build are you using? Jun 13 17:50:12 jsabeaudry: I have dugg into this "bus error". Seems like if any peripheral is not responsive a time-out read error occurs known as "bus error". This means that it is possible that either the clock to gpmc is down or it is powered down. But I don't think it's the power issue, since it is in the same power domain as other peripherals like USB Jun 13 17:51:43 mdp: even with the koen kernel you linked, VFS: Cannot open root device "mmcblk0p3" or unknown-block(2,0) Jun 13 17:53:51 Dhiraj, I'm using koen's kernel r11d with some patches on top Jun 13 17:54:09 Dhiraj, I think it is a power domain problem that you are having Jun 13 17:54:28 Dhiraj, have you called omap_init_gpmc ? Jun 13 17:55:47 Hexxeh: since you are playing with gpt, you've enabled efi-partitions in the kernel? Jun 13 17:55:54 yeah Jun 13 17:56:19 jsabeaudry:i am using Angstrom 3.2.18. i dont know if it has this omap_init_gpmc. can you point to the document. i can try to set it up manually. Jun 13 18:01:37 Hexxeh: and which partitions get recognized by the kernel? Jun 13 18:02:26 none, at all Jun 13 18:02:32 at least, the list you usually see isn't there Jun 13 18:18:01 <_av500_> Hexxeh: bored of the r-pi? Jun 13 18:18:07 naw Jun 13 18:23:03 Question Jun 13 18:23:17 I have a beagleboard xM and while it's revision C, I can't tell WHICH revision C it is. Jun 13 18:23:25 is there a way to do that short of counting components? Jun 13 18:23:29 It's labeled with just a C Jun 13 18:31:56 hi jkridner. Jun 13 18:33:17 Sh0rtWave: what makes you believe there has to be a number? Jun 13 18:39:46 aholler: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard Jun 13 18:40:00 aholler: Note section 3.3->3.5 Jun 13 18:40:15 aholler: I presume a plain C is essentially C1 Jun 13 18:40:17 beagleboard and beagleboard xM are different Jun 13 18:40:31 Sh0rtWave: read the srm Jun 13 18:40:36 * Sh0rtWave facepalsm Jun 13 18:40:36 err Jun 13 18:40:43 * Sh0rtWave facepalms over failed facepalm. Jun 13 18:41:08 I was anyway struggling with getting this camera patch compiled Jun 13 18:41:18 install the patch and...kernel fails to compile with a ton of errors Jun 13 18:42:04 feel like I'm having to modify too much crap to get this to build Jun 13 18:44:26 facepsalm? Jun 13 18:45:04 * Sh0rtWave facepalms over failed attempt to indicate failure. Jun 13 18:45:07 heh Jun 13 18:46:27 * mru has an xm rev P6 fwiw Jun 13 19:02:46 <_av500_> fezplan Jun 13 19:04:18 fezplan's are good things to have Jun 13 19:04:25 ANY plan in most cases is better than none. Jun 13 19:07:11 I pl;an to go jump in a live volcano Jun 13 19:07:17 or I have no plan. . . Jun 13 19:07:57 but then anything one does could be considered a plan, doin nothin is a plan Jun 13 19:08:25 lemmings have a plan too, following others Jun 13 19:08:56 what i'm trying to get my dog pack to do, follow me :) Jun 13 19:09:26 I had two older dogs and added two 8 month olds Jun 13 19:13:59 <_av500_> and then the beagle Jun 13 19:16:30 I have a ferret Jun 13 19:16:31 and a cat Jun 13 19:16:35 Gonna get a puppy Jun 13 19:17:05