**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 20 02:59:59 2012
Jun 20 03:05:18 <snowrichard> hi
Jun 20 03:06:00 <snowrichard> finally fixed the abysmal network performance of my beagleboard -- replaced a USB wired ethernet dongle with a wireless netgear using atheros chipset
Jun 20 03:07:35 <snowrichard> the fastest the wired one would download at was about 10 - 14 Kb/sec
Jun 20 03:07:57 <snowrichard> got up to 400Kb/sec with the wireless
Jun 20 03:10:57 <snowrichard> hi sig11
Jun 20 03:45:10 <orbarron1> hello all -- quick question -- does the latest SDK for beaglebone had SPI patch included?
Jun 20 03:45:38 <orbarron1> sdk 05.04.01.00
Jun 20 03:47:07 <mranostay> SPI patch?
Jun 20 04:30:41 <mdp> definitely need to elaborate on that one
Jun 20 04:35:31 <mranostay> mdp: would you expect anything else here? :)
Jun 20 04:37:27 <KeatonT> o_O
Jun 20 05:10:33 <snowrichard> hi
Jun 20 05:26:12 <snowrichard> hi
Jun 20 05:31:12 <snowrichard> hi cris
Jun 20 05:37:01 <snowrichard> hi
Jun 20 05:59:22 <III> hello all -- can someone tell me if /dev/spi shows up on beaglebone? -- cat /proc/devices
Jun 20 06:03:47 <mranostay> changing nicks will surely give you answers
Jun 20 06:04:09 <III> no..
Jun 20 06:04:24 <III> but thought I'd ask again
Jun 20 06:05:20 * III does not have a bone atm so just looking for some hlep :D
Jun 20 06:05:54 <mranostay> so if you don't have a board how you know it doesn't work?
Jun 20 06:06:12 <mranostay> there is no such thing as a /dev/spi device node
Jun 20 06:29:58 <av500> III: omar?
Jun 20 06:30:41 <III> hey av500
Jun 20 06:30:43 <III> whats up
Jun 20 06:31:02 <av500> the strangest of nicks thou hath chosen
Jun 20 06:31:25 <III> it's my home nick
Jun 20 06:31:31 <av500> ah
Jun 20 06:31:33 <III> my other one is for work
Jun 20 06:31:46 <III> have you seen this blog: --http://communistcode.co.uk/blog/blogPost.php?blogPostID=1
Jun 20 06:32:01 <III> from the looks of it I may need to enable this wihtin the latest SDK drop
Jun 20 06:32:35 <av500> I would not know
Jun 20 06:32:46 <av500> but SPI on the bone is a much discussed topic
Jun 20 06:32:51 * III thought this would be there by now but based on mranostay input it is not
Jun 20 06:33:09 <III> yeah -- i noticed that
Jun 20 07:22:20 <snowrichard> hi
Jun 20 09:16:11 <tasslehoff> koen: have you successfully testet the older sgx-drivers on newer kernels? on 3.2.18 the ones working on 2.6.39 crashes like so http://pastebin.com/uJxs9Emj
Jun 20 09:16:29 <tasslehoff> the 4.06.00.01 from denix crashed in a similar way when I tried it
Jun 20 09:24:17 <koen> tasslehoff: I only tried the current ones in meta-ti on 3.2.x
Jun 20 09:27:46 <tasslehoff> koen: I *think* they crashed in the same way for me now (so not with the instant lockup).
Jun 20 11:26:23 <XorA> morning
Jun 20 11:26:37 <snowrichard> hello
Jun 20 11:26:43 <av500> gm
Jun 20 11:26:55 <snowrichard> finally got all the network issues fixed on my beagleboard
Jun 20 11:27:19 <snowrichard> replaced the usb ethernet with usb wireless
Jun 20 11:27:52 <snowrichard> and i have a new internet provider its verizon 4g lte
Jun 20 11:28:12 <snowrichard> a mifi
Jun 20 11:28:23 <woglinde> hi av500
Jun 20 11:28:40 <woglinde> yeah changing providers fixes a lot
Jun 20 11:28:44 <woglinde> of hw problems
Jun 20 11:29:32 <snowrichard> i get downloads of up to 2 MB/sec on my main desktop
Jun 20 11:29:46 <snowrichard> its a little slower on the beagle cause the SD can't keep up
Jun 20 11:31:15 <snowrichard> so i got the debian armhf
Jun 20 11:31:28 <woglinde> o.O
Jun 20 11:31:54 <woglinde> hm intressting that debian armhf makes the sd faster
Jun 20 11:32:05 <snowrichard> no it doesn't
Jun 20 11:32:11 <snowrichard> but that is what i just installed
Jun 20 11:32:26 <snowrichard> the floating point should be a little faster though
Jun 20 11:33:54 * XorA prods TI to put esata ports on their boards :-D
Jun 20 11:36:55 <woglinde> xora hm like pcie on tegra?
Jun 20 11:37:17 <XorA> woglinde: only tegra Ive got is me tablet so no idea what is on it
Jun 20 11:37:42 <XorA> pcie on beagle would mean high speed SSD could be added though :-D
Jun 20 11:37:50 <XorA> for not many $$$
Jun 20 11:38:52 <woglinde> xora which tablet you bought?
Jun 20 11:40:29 <woglinde> sofar only harmony dev board and slim-trice have pcie exposed
Jun 20 11:41:25 <woglinde> and maybee the tegra3 dev boards
Jun 20 11:41:57 <av500> omap5 has usb3
Jun 20 11:42:17 <aholler> and it actually works?
Jun 20 11:42:18 <snowrichard> i looked at the .s output from gcc on the armhf, it uses the thumb instructions, so code may be slightly smaller
Jun 20 11:42:44 <av500> aholler: its TI after all
Jun 20 11:43:08 <aholler> so it usable to charge a device ;)
Jun 20 11:43:42 <aholler> hmm, is there something like otg 3.0?
Jun 20 11:43:42 <woglinde> aholler *g*
Jun 20 11:43:57 <XorA> woglinde: Ive got the tegra2 Transformer
Jun 20 11:43:59 <ColloquyUser> Hey, I recently got a beagleboard rev c3 uBoot version 2009, I am trying to update uboot but whenever I boot from mmc I get a orange screen, any tips?
Jun 20 11:44:01 <XorA> woglinde: has it since launch
Jun 20 11:44:54 <aholler> ColloquyUser: erase the nand, the old u-boot (in nand) made it orange
Jun 20 11:45:43 <ColloquyUser> Erase the NAND, but I have to replace it with a new uboot right?
Jun 20 11:45:44 <woglinde> ColloquyUser yes erase nand and boot all from sdcard
Jun 20 11:46:01 <woglinde> you can boot from sd-card with userbutton hold
Jun 20 11:46:06 <ColloquyUser> Okay trying that
Jun 20 11:54:27 <ColloquyUser> I erased NAND using following command, NAND erase 260000 2000
Jun 20 11:54:48 <ColloquyUser> Now when I boot up beagleboard it gives orange screen no start up!
Jun 20 11:55:09 <ColloquyUser> Plus pressing user button and booting from mmc gives orange sceen
Jun 20 11:56:02 <aholler> paste full log at dpaste.com
Jun 20 11:57:36 <ColloquyUser> What log?
Jun 20 11:57:53 <aholler> from the serial when you boot
Jun 20 11:58:07 <ColloquyUser> Nothing shows up on serial
Jun 20 11:58:24 <aholler> then first fix that
Jun 20 11:58:48 <aholler> how can you erase the nand without seeing something on the serial?
Jun 20 12:00:57 <ColloquyUser> I am sorry let me explain, I use gtkterm the serial connections are present but I cannot connect anymore after flashing nand! It used to show connection acm0 now it does not.
Jun 20 12:01:57 <aholler> then the u-boot on your mmc made it orange. but you still should see something. so fix the mmc
Jun 20 12:02:11 <aholler> s/mmc/sd-card/
Jun 20 12:03:27 <ColloquyUser> So you mean to say the uboot on my mmc is corrupted? That's the problem?
Jun 20 12:04:07 <aholler> don't know, you should even see something before u-boot got loaded and the screen got orange
Jun 20 12:04:27 <travalas> jakeday: no, rfkill doesn't seem to stick so I think there's maybe a driver issue.
Jun 20 12:04:31 <ColloquyUser> Yeah I used to before I flashed my NAND
Jun 20 12:05:44 <aholler> then fix the sd-card
Jun 20 12:06:54 <ColloquyUser> Can you tell me what I need to do? I am following tutorial from elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu
Jun 20 12:07:21 <ColloquyUser> They gave a direct shell script that prepares sd card!
Jun 20 12:09:40 <ColloquyUser> How can I see the date uboot might be sending serially on gtkterm? During boot up no connection is established?
Jun 20 12:09:45 <ColloquyUser> Data*
Jun 20 12:10:26 <aholler> screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200 # ctrl-a shift-k to quit
Jun 20 12:10:39 <aholler> forget gtkterm
Jun 20 12:11:44 <tasslehoff> +1
Jun 20 12:12:58 <mru> aholler: is gtkterm an accurate recreation of hyperterm?
Jun 20 12:13:47 <aholler> don't know, it's a terminal emulation foo build to use modems, so too bloated for todays people ;)
Jun 20 12:14:50 <mru> I can't remember when I last used a terminal emulator with an actual dialup modem
Jun 20 12:15:24 <aholler> my last was a zyxel with 57600 ;)
Jun 20 12:15:29 <mru> it's over 10 years since I used a modem at all
Jun 20 12:15:35 <mru> not much more though
Jun 20 12:15:45 <mru> but that was using pppd
Jun 20 12:17:40 <woglinde> mru haha you didnt play with a gsm modem?
Jun 20 12:17:55 <mru> oh, I've done that too
Jun 20 12:18:04 <woglinde> so you lied
Jun 20 12:18:08 * woglinde runs
Jun 20 12:18:25 <mru> still using pppd
Jun 20 12:18:38 <woglinde> sure
Jun 20 12:19:15 <woglinde> until you have the fancy modems which maps stuff to usb-net
Jun 20 12:19:21 <aholler> I still remember that I did burn eproms with last fw for the zyxel ;)
Jun 20 12:22:02 <aholler> afterwards I've gone isdn.
Jun 20 12:23:40 <woglinde> aholler I bought an mini vigor some weeks ago
Jun 20 12:24:00 <woglinde> after Karsten made fax working with misdn2
Jun 20 12:24:14 <mru> fax, now there's something I can barely remember
Jun 20 12:24:32 <woglinde> germany swears on fax
Jun 20 12:24:55 <mru> is a faxed signature legally binding?
Jun 20 12:25:02 <woglinde> yes
Jun 20 12:25:12 <mru> explains it
Jun 20 12:25:35 <woglinde> you can fax to courts
Jun 20 12:25:51 <mru> I stay away from courts
Jun 20 12:25:57 <mru> it's simple: just don't get caught
Jun 20 12:27:04 <av500> fax is essential when dealing with patents
Jun 20 12:27:05 <aholler> isdn is dead too. and now they all get faced with the problems using a fax over voip ;)
Jun 20 12:27:07 <ColloquyUser> aholler: nope I am pretty sure uboot ain't sending any logs somehow!
Jun 20 12:27:38 <mru> console=/dev/fax
Jun 20 12:28:22 <aholler> ColloquyUser: MLO sends something even before u-boot gets loaded. if MLO won't get loaded you should see at least a "40"
Jun 20 12:28:31 <av500> or 60
Jun 20 12:28:43 <aholler> c3 = 40
Jun 20 12:29:15 <av500> so c = 13.3333333333333?
Jun 20 12:29:51 <aholler> too short
Jun 20 12:30:25 <aholler> use hf ;)
Jun 20 12:30:39 <aholler> or gmp
Jun 20 12:30:59 <mru> or 3.41995189335?
Jun 20 12:32:18 <av500> aholler: my Casio does not has more digits
Jun 20 12:32:39 <aholler> oh, no ti? ;)
Jun 20 12:33:48 <stuk_gen> how bitbake found a recipe? example if i run bitbake qt4-embedded how can found qt4-embedded_4_8_0.bb
Jun 20 12:34:54 <ColloquyUser> aholler:
Jun 20 12:34:57 <mru> aholler: hp ftw
Jun 20 12:35:36 <aholler> I never understood people using ti calculators with upn. ;)
Jun 20 12:36:13 <av500> aholler: of course HP
Jun 20 12:36:13 <aholler> upn = german for rpn
Jun 20 12:36:38 <mru> ti with rpn?
Jun 20 12:36:58 <mru> what custom rom were you using?
Jun 20 12:37:29 <av500> a zyxel one
Jun 20 12:37:42 <av500> as he said above
Jun 20 12:38:05 <aholler> wasn't that ti with the rpn-calculators and bcd-digits?
Jun 20 12:39:00 <mru> the TI graphing calcs use bcd internally, yes
Jun 20 12:39:02 <mru> but no rpn
Jun 20 12:39:52 <ColloquyUser> aholler: Any tutorial you are familiar with to make sd card for uboot?
Jun 20 12:40:02 <aholler> those ones: http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/calc/h/ti30.jpg
Jun 20 12:40:14 <av500> not rpn
Jun 20 12:40:33 <snowrichard> i used to have an HP41c it was rpm
Jun 20 12:40:42 <snowrichard> rpn rather
Jun 20 12:42:02 <snowrichard> it also handled alpha characters for  labeling the function keys
Jun 20 12:42:13 <aholler> maybe my memories got that wrong and it was HP with the rpn
Jun 20 12:42:54 <av500> yes
Jun 20 12:43:29 <stuk_gen> this is the last week that i try with oe...and i thinking we leave the project...
Jun 20 12:45:09 <aholler> it might get hard to find something better for cross-compiling
Jun 20 12:45:42 <woglinde> stuk_gen and?
Jun 20 12:46:09 <av500> stuk_gen: you are aware that there is oe and bitbake documentation?
Jun 20 12:46:33 <woglinde> aholler let him try the other solutions
Jun 20 12:46:39 <woglinde> and he will come back
Jun 20 12:46:57 <stuk_gen> oe is too hard
Jun 20 12:47:07 <stuk_gen> and if this is the best solution...
Jun 20 12:47:12 <av500> just put Android
Jun 20 12:47:30 <stuk_gen> i think the embedded is not for me...and i use a normal pc for my work
Jun 20 12:47:41 <aholler> woglinde: or he will learn that he just could us qt-creator on a linux-pc to develop his app and afterwards invoke qmake on the beagle ;)
Jun 20 12:47:50 <stuk_gen> av500: i need qt...android is not my case
Jun 20 12:48:00 <koen> or do a recipe for the qt app, easier & faster
Jun 20 12:48:00 <av500> there is qt in oe
Jun 20 12:48:08 <woglinde> aholler sure but packaging will be hard for him
Jun 20 12:48:09 <av500> and qt apps
Jun 20 12:48:46 <stuk_gen> woglinde: i just using qt creator on host...
Jun 20 12:48:57 <stuk_gen> but you can't only use qmake2 on a pro file...
Jun 20 12:49:24 <stuk_gen> because you can't debug
Jun 20 12:50:30 <stuk_gen> what i don't understand is why i have to paid 5000 euro to get what i can doing by using oe...
Jun 20 12:50:43 <koen> I wonder how people debugged qt apps before qt-creator existed
Jun 20 12:50:56 <woglinde> stuk_gen pay me the 5000 euro and I will do it for you
Jun 20 12:51:27 <aholler> koen: they used eclipse ;)
Jun 20 12:51:37 <woglinde> aholler and?
Jun 20 12:51:47 <stuk_gen> before...
Jun 20 12:51:47 <woglinde> you can still use it as gdb frontend
Jun 20 12:51:49 <stuk_gen> before...
Jun 20 12:52:04 <av500> 5000€?
Jun 20 12:52:18 <woglinde> av500 not bad!
Jun 20 12:52:23 <stuk_gen> this is what
Jun 20 12:52:34 <stuk_gen> i have to paid
Jun 20 12:52:39 <av500> where?
Jun 20 12:52:44 <stuk_gen> for get a simple qt build embedded for beagleboard
Jun 20 12:52:52 <av500> to whom?
Jun 20 12:52:55 <stuk_gen> ...made bye angstrom
Jun 20 12:53:02 <woglinde> o.O
Jun 20 12:53:04 <stuk_gen> qt commercial
Jun 20 12:53:21 <ant_work> koen: somehow that mtd/ubi-user.h header changed under my nose...
Jun 20 12:53:22 <stuk_gen> its give a qt creator with qt embedded for arm
Jun 20 12:53:34 <av500> so dont pay
Jun 20 12:53:39 <woglinde> av500 hm yeah there comapies in asia which need professional qt support
Jun 20 12:53:48 <stuk_gen> qt creator have a little useful for put on board the binary
Jun 20 12:53:54 <ant_work> koen: what I have is sysroot is *not* the 3.4 header, though I've built that recipe
Jun 20 12:53:55 <woglinde> one of my friend makes consulting for nokia
Jun 20 12:54:06 <stuk_gen> i mean
Jun 20 12:54:07 <stuk_gen> digia
Jun 20 12:54:24 <woglinde> hm or digia now
Jun 20 12:54:26 <woglinde> maybee
Jun 20 12:54:34 <stuk_gen> but ok...you pay for support and...ok...
Jun 20 12:54:40 <woglinde> right
Jun 20 12:54:51 <stuk_gen> but the libraries is build by angstrom this make me angry
Jun 20 12:54:58 <woglinde> or you pay the same money your lousy devs and they struggle for half a year
Jun 20 12:55:33 <woglinde> stuk_gen pssst I can sell you linux
Jun 20 12:55:57 <stuk_gen> nice nice
Jun 20 12:57:12 <stuk_gen> why don't you try to reply to my question? its now a waste of time
Jun 20 12:57:34 <woglinde> stuk_gen you mean how bitbake parses recipes?
Jun 20 12:57:50 <stuk_gen> how bitbake found recipes
Jun 20 12:58:33 <aholler> no, he wants to develop an app with qt-creator which uses dbus, and several other linux-libs and struggles combining that with cross-compiling
Jun 20 12:58:52 <stuk_gen> aholler: this is the next step
Jun 20 12:59:12 <stuk_gen> aholler: but nobody reply to me...so i decide to edit the recipes and manually do it
Jun 20 13:00:00 <aholler> stuk_gen: maybe you should ask in qt-channels
Jun 20 13:00:17 <woglinde> aholler oe has that stuff
Jun 20 13:00:19 <stuk_gen> aholler: what? how can i edit recipes with bitbake?
Jun 20 13:00:29 <woglinde> lol
Jun 20 13:00:36 <woglinde> stuk_gen look at hob
Jun 20 13:00:41 <stuk_gen> hob?
Jun 20 13:00:41 <woglinde> it runs in ecliose
Jun 20 13:00:45 <woglinde> ups eclipse
Jun 20 13:00:51 <stuk_gen> ...
Jun 20 13:00:57 <woglinde> yes the intel eclipse frontend for oe
Jun 20 13:01:06 <stuk_gen> why i have to use eclipse?
Jun 20 13:01:13 <stuk_gen> i want use qt creator
Jun 20 13:01:16 <woglinde> than you can edit recipes with bitbake
Jun 20 13:01:22 <stuk_gen> lol
Jun 20 13:01:47 <stuk_gen> i think a simple editor is what i need
Jun 20 13:02:03 <woglinde> qt-creator is no simple editor
Jun 20 13:02:20 <stuk_gen> but i don't use qt creator for recipes!
Jun 20 13:02:27 <stuk_gen> i use for debug and build my app
Jun 20 13:02:43 <stuk_gen> for reciped i can use vim
Jun 20 13:02:55 <av500> stuk_gen: and there is no other recipe that builds a qt app?
Jun 20 13:03:03 <av500> that you could look at and copy`
Jun 20 13:03:05 <av500> ?
Jun 20 13:03:08 <stuk_gen> ...
Jun 20 13:03:11 <stuk_gen> sorry
Jun 20 13:03:16 <stuk_gen> wait a moment
Jun 20 13:03:27 <stuk_gen> without angstrom oe
Jun 20 13:03:56 <stuk_gen> i able to cross compile qt emedded for beagleboard, using that libraries on beagleboard,
Jun 20 13:04:10 <av500> "on" is not cross
Jun 20 13:04:16 <av500> do you compile native or cross?
Jun 20 13:04:26 <stuk_gen> for on
Jun 20 13:04:38 <stuk_gen> i mean after build i manually copy to /urs/lib
Jun 20 13:04:42 <stuk_gen> on beagleboard
Jun 20 13:04:46 <stuk_gen> its cross
Jun 20 13:04:53 <stuk_gen> ELF 32 arm
Jun 20 13:05:03 <av500> its not
Jun 20 13:05:09 <stuk_gen> and include the powervr plugin
Jun 20 13:05:12 <av500> building on the BB is "native"
Jun 20 13:05:16 <av500> not cross
Jun 20 13:05:22 <ColloquyUser> aholler: Any tip what I can do now? Serial wont respond, Redownloaded MLO,uboot retried and doesn't work.
Jun 20 13:05:28 <ColloquyUser> ?*
Jun 20 13:05:38 <stuk_gen> who build on bb?!??
Jun 20 13:05:45 <av500> you?
Jun 20 13:05:48 <stuk_gen> no
Jun 20 13:05:52 <av500> gee, I give up
Jun 20 13:06:03 <stuk_gen> i said i copy and paste the lib that i build ON beagleboard
Jun 20 13:06:18 <av500> ok, copy TO
Jun 20 13:06:18 <stuk_gen> there a tons of guide
Jun 20 13:06:21 <av500> understood
Jun 20 13:06:22 <stuk_gen> to cross compile
Jun 20 13:06:28 <woglinde> copy and paste binary?
Jun 20 13:06:30 <stuk_gen> qt for beaglebord
Jun 20 13:06:35 <woglinde> nice
Jun 20 13:06:40 <stuk_gen> the problem
Jun 20 13:06:48 <av500> isnt qt already built by oe/angstrom?
Jun 20 13:06:51 <stuk_gen> is because i need some package like dbus
Jun 20 13:06:56 <stuk_gen> gstreamer eccc
Jun 20 13:07:12 <stuk_gen> i have dowload every single package
Jun 20 13:07:23 <stuk_gen> add a patches
Jun 20 13:07:25 <stuk_gen> build
Jun 20 13:07:27 <stuk_gen> ecc..
Jun 20 13:07:32 <stuk_gen> and all works well
Jun 20 13:07:38 <stuk_gen> but its a PAIN
Jun 20 13:07:47 <stuk_gen> if some of that package is update...
Jun 20 13:08:02 <stuk_gen> so i search and tell on irc..and someone tell me using angstrom oe
Jun 20 13:08:18 <stuk_gen> so i'm trying using that :)
Jun 20 13:08:44 <stuk_gen> i have 3 object: 1) editing recipes for build powervr pluging
Jun 20 13:09:00 <stuk_gen> 2) find a way to use the library build on qt creator
Jun 20 13:09:04 <stuk_gen> 3) build my project
Jun 20 13:09:29 <av500> stuk_gen: and this is the 1st time that you are on irc that you say that clearly
Jun 20 13:09:42 <woglinde> stuk_gen for 1) somone pasted patches on the oe-core ml
Jun 20 13:09:59 <stuk_gen> av500: its 6 months that i repeat that!
Jun 20 13:10:11 <av500> no
Jun 20 13:10:12 <woglinde> time to pay the 5000€
Jun 20 13:10:17 <woglinde> to me
Jun 20 13:10:36 <woglinde> and I will make you a nice oe recipe for your qt lib
Jun 20 13:10:40 <stuk_gen> woglinde:  who? nobody i'm the man that ask on oe.core
Jun 20 13:10:55 <stuk_gen> for the first step
Jun 20 13:10:57 <woglinde> stuk_gen hehe okay
Jun 20 13:11:18 <stuk_gen> i'm editing the recipes for add opengl...
Jun 20 13:11:55 <snowrichard> i kept getting errors running apt-get install it ran out of ram.  I added a megabyte swap file and it seems to help
Jun 20 13:12:29 <stuk_gen> for the first step i see bitbake build qt, create some package, split in some other
Jun 20 13:12:29 <icota> stuk_gen: are you using qws with the powervr plugin?
Jun 20 13:12:34 <stuk_gen> icota: yes
Jun 20 13:12:46 <icota> stuk_gen: on the bone or beagleboard?
Jun 20 13:12:55 <stuk_gen> beagleboard now
Jun 20 13:13:01 <stuk_gen> bone in future
Jun 20 13:13:15 <stuk_gen> i editing the recipes
Jun 20 13:13:28 <stuk_gen> and build but fails because not find some libraries
Jun 20 13:13:35 <stuk_gen> this is because 4.8.0 need 2 patches
Jun 20 13:13:53 <stuk_gen> fortunatly bitbake block and don't remove the src of qt
Jun 20 13:13:54 <icota> so you still need to build the plugin itself?
Jun 20 13:14:03 <woglinde> stuk_gen the recipe or qt itself?
Jun 20 13:14:05 <stuk_gen> so i go to src and apply the patches manually
Jun 20 13:14:16 <woglinde> o.O
Jun 20 13:14:34 <stuk_gen> because i don't know how can i editing the recipes to apply 2 patches
Jun 20 13:14:50 <stuk_gen> i apply that manually on the work directory
Jun 20 13:14:57 <stuk_gen> so i restart bitbake
Jun 20 13:15:00 <snowrichard> must be possible lots of packages need patches
Jun 20 13:15:03 <stuk_gen> and build succesfully
Jun 20 13:15:11 <woglinde> stuk_gen lol
Jun 20 13:15:14 <stuk_gen> the problem is the recipes don't copy
Jun 20 13:15:19 <stuk_gen> the powervr plugins
Jun 20 13:15:24 <woglinde> adding patch is putting the patch in recipe dir
Jun 20 13:15:37 <woglinde> and adding file://patch.name to the recipe
Jun 20 13:15:50 <stuk_gen> woglinde: yes this is what i've try tomorrow
Jun 20 13:15:57 <woglinde> o.O
Jun 20 13:16:09 <stuk_gen> woglinde: but wait so i can finish to tell the story
Jun 20 13:16:22 <stuk_gen> so...the qt recipes copy on sysroot
Jun 20 13:16:26 <stuk_gen> only 2 folders
Jun 20 13:16:31 <stuk_gen> without the powervr...
Jun 20 13:16:38 <tasslehoff> the powervr-plugin to IMAGE_INSTALL in your rootfs-recipe
Jun 20 13:16:45 <tasslehoff> (add)
Jun 20 13:17:23 <stuk_gen> but i find the plugin folder in some other folder... and manually copy paste on beagle board
Jun 20 13:17:34 <stuk_gen> on /usr/lib/qtopia/plugins
Jun 20 13:17:38 <stuk_gen> and this work
Jun 20 13:17:48 <woglinde> you need oe consulting
Jun 20 13:17:58 <woglinde> paid of course
Jun 20 13:18:41 <stuk_gen> i think...because i don't know if qt embedded with powervr can works...i try with manually spep to run qt on beagleboard...and if works i try to tell or learne how can i do this step manually
Jun 20 13:18:50 <stuk_gen> this is what i have think
Jun 20 13:19:27 <stuk_gen> tomorrow i want try to edit qt recipes
Jun 20 13:19:33 <stuk_gen> to add plugin-powervr
Jun 20 13:19:48 <stuk_gen> because i don't want break the recipes-qt
Jun 20 13:20:01 <stuk_gen> i copy paste rename it to recipe-qt-personal
Jun 20 13:20:16 <icota> well you have the plugin crosscompiled? try some 3d examples from qt and see how it runs?
Jun 20 13:20:27 <stuk_gen> icota: WORKSSS
Jun 20 13:20:37 <stuk_gen> icota: you want a video??!
Jun 20 13:20:47 <icota> stuk_gen: yes please
Jun 20 13:21:07 <stuk_gen> tomorrow i give you a video of hello_gs2
Jun 20 13:21:22 <stuk_gen> now i want build this recipes
Jun 20 13:21:36 <icota> put it on youtube with some techno muzak as soundtrack
Jun 20 13:21:54 <stuk_gen> icota: ...
Jun 20 13:21:59 <stuk_gen> so..
Jun 20 13:22:31 <stuk_gen> i rename qt4_embedded_4_8_0.bb to qt4_personal_4_8_0.bb
Jun 20 13:22:37 <stuk_gen> and bitbake qt4_personal
Jun 20 13:22:47 <stuk_gen> but i think this is a bad idea :)
Jun 20 13:23:12 <stuk_gen> because in works i see bitbake do a qt4_personal_prxx and qt4_embedded_prxx
Jun 20 13:24:29 <stuk_gen> so i decide to reset this step and add a copy of the qt4_embedded_4_8_0.bb and use that
Jun 20 13:26:15 <stuk_gen> and rename qt4_embedded_4_8_0.bb to qt4_OLDembedded_4_8_0.bb
Jun 20 13:26:22 <stuk_gen> and bitbake qt4-embedded
Jun 20 13:26:40 <stuk_gen> and  bitbbake found qt4_OLDembedded.bb!
Jun 20 13:26:45 <av500> \o/
Jun 20 13:26:56 <stuk_gen> so i tell you how bitbake found recipes
Jun 20 13:28:00 <stuk_gen> so... i now that you know the beautiful story :)
Jun 20 13:28:34 <stuk_gen> what is the best way to editing the qt recipes to enable opengl with patches?
Jun 20 13:28:47 <stuk_gen> copy paste folder? editing just the original recipes?
Jun 20 13:30:27 <stuk_gen> woglinde: for the patches i add the pathes to the qt4.8.0 folder and in the recipes
Jun 20 13:30:35 <stuk_gen> i have to do something else?
Jun 20 13:33:19 <stuk_gen> icota: why are you interesting in powervr?
Jun 20 13:33:51 <icota> stuk_gen: i maybe want some fancy UI stuff, i'm glad it works
Jun 20 13:33:59 <icota> only read about it, but never tried
Jun 20 13:34:32 <stuk_gen> for works works...but if i use phonon video and glx effect...its a little slow :)
Jun 20 13:35:17 <icota> try qml shaders?
Jun 20 13:35:50 <stuk_gen> no
Jun 20 13:35:52 <icota> are you targeting a specific kernel? i was under the impression that powervr doesn't work with the more recent kernels
Jun 20 13:36:04 <stuk_gen> i don't know :)
Jun 20 13:36:11 <stuk_gen> the kernel is 3.2.18
Jun 20 13:36:25 <icota> cool
Jun 20 13:36:45 <stuk_gen> i only do a bitbake virtual/kernel
Jun 20 13:36:56 <stuk_gen> and all the step that i've said before
Jun 20 13:37:26 <stuk_gen> guys, please tell me some information
Jun 20 13:37:44 <stuk_gen> is best editing the current recipes or add another?
Jun 20 13:48:35 <stuk_gen> ok...without a reply i decide to editin the original recipes
Jun 20 13:48:43 <stuk_gen> if an update become
Jun 20 13:48:45 <stuk_gen> i revert it
Jun 20 13:51:47 <woglinde> thats why we have an scm which can scope with updates
Jun 20 13:56:22 <stuk_gen> woglinde: ok ... so now i'm editing the recipes
Jun 20 13:56:56 <stuk_gen> but what i don't understand is who tell to bitbake what plugin package install in rootfs ?
Jun 20 13:57:14 <stuk_gen> because i see the plugin directory is build correctly but only 2 folder is copy
Jun 20 13:57:26 <stuk_gen> is there another recipes that do this ?
Jun 20 13:58:14 <woglinde> stuk_gen scropp above tasselhof already told you
Jun 20 13:58:18 <woglinde> args
Jun 20 13:58:20 <woglinde> scroll
Jun 20 14:00:22 <stuk_gen> the powervr-plugin to IMAGE_INSTALL in your rootfs-recipe
Jun 20 14:00:40 <stuk_gen> ok so there is a rootfs-recipe
Jun 20 14:04:35 <stuk_gen> mmm where is this rootfs-recipes?
Jun 20 14:05:56 <stuk_gen> or i don't understand...he said to add powervr-plugin to IMAGE-INSTALL
Jun 20 14:06:11 <stuk_gen> but in my 'finally' image
Jun 20 14:06:25 <stuk_gen> i use qt4-embedded
Jun 20 14:06:33 <stuk_gen> in IMAGE_INSTALL
Jun 20 14:06:47 <stuk_gen> so i have just the qt4-embedded
Jun 20 14:07:04 <stuk_gen> but without pluging powervr...maybe i have to editing some else in the recipes
Jun 20 14:07:56 <woglinde> IMAGE_INSTALL goes for package name
Jun 20 14:08:03 <woglinde> not recipe names
Jun 20 14:08:56 <stuk_gen> ok... but i think the qt4-embedded package is build from the recipes that i'm editing
Jun 20 14:09:22 <stuk_gen> so if i editing the qt4-embedded_4_8_0.bb
Jun 20 14:09:38 <stuk_gen> i can enable to include the powervr-plugin in sysroot
Jun 20 14:09:40 <stuk_gen> no?
Jun 20 14:11:07 <woglinde> no
Jun 20 14:11:17 <woglinde> IMAGE_INSTALL is in your image recipe
Jun 20 14:11:30 <stuk_gen> woglinde: yes... i have my personalimage.bb
Jun 20 14:11:34 <woglinde> there you have to add the powervr-plung
Jun 20 14:11:41 <stuk_gen> its a copy of systemdgnomeimage
Jun 20 14:11:52 <woglinde> again package name not recipe names
Jun 20 14:12:25 <stuk_gen> no...i don't understand
Jun 20 14:12:28 <stuk_gen> sorry
Jun 20 14:12:41 <stuk_gen> add qt4-embedded to IMAGE_INSTALL
Jun 20 14:12:46 <stuk_gen> is not the same to use
Jun 20 14:12:54 <stuk_gen> opkg install qt4-embedded on the target?
Jun 20 14:13:14 <stuk_gen> (excluse that one is download...and the other in oe is build....)
Jun 20 14:13:58 <woglinde> no
Jun 20 14:13:59 <woglinde> again
Jun 20 14:14:08 <woglinde> use package names instead of recipe names
Jun 20 14:14:31 <woglinde> packagname is the string before the versionnumber of the ipk
Jun 20 14:14:56 <Sh0rtWave> Morning all
Jun 20 14:15:21 <Sh0rtWave> I'm working with a beagleboard xM with the leopard imaging lbcm5m03 camera board
Jun 20 14:15:31 <stuk_gen> woglinde: ok...but where is get this package?
Jun 20 14:15:47 <stuk_gen> woglinde: is build by bitbake when i run bitbake qt4-embedded?
Jun 20 14:15:47 <Sh0rtWave> I've got it capturing at  ~11 FPS...anyone know how to improve that frame rate?
Jun 20 14:22:36 <woglinde> stuk_gen when you run bitbake qt4-embedded the recipe and packages are build
Jun 20 14:23:00 <woglinde> look into your tmp/build/images dir
Jun 20 14:23:12 <woglinde> hm deploy it was
Jun 20 14:23:13 <woglinde> sorry
Jun 20 14:23:58 <woglinde> deploy/libcname/ipk/
Jun 20 14:24:28 <stuk_gen> i'm looking... i'm searching qt but i found nothing... but the bitbake is running
Jun 20 14:24:36 <stuk_gen> so i re look when finish
Jun 20 14:24:45 <stuk_gen> if finish correctly :)
Jun 20 14:25:40 <stuk_gen> so if i understand correctly bitbake try to make all libraries an .ipk ?
Jun 20 14:26:43 <stuk_gen> the do_package step so...
Jun 20 14:28:30 <guyzmo> hey all
Jun 20 14:34:11 <guyzmo> I'm running into the "genext2fs: set_file_size: ftruncate: Invalid argument" problem when building the image from bitbake
Jun 20 14:34:25 <guyzmo> this problem appeared on the mailing list
Jun 20 14:34:33 <guyzmo> but there's no answer to this
Jun 20 14:34:49 <woglinde> stuk_gen yes
Jun 20 14:34:59 <woglinde> stuk_gen all other where nonsens
Jun 20 14:35:03 <guyzmo> has it been fixed in head ?
Jun 20 14:35:14 <stuk_gen> woglinde: all other ?
Jun 20 14:35:47 <woglinde> stuk_gen if bitbake would not made packages in do_package stage
Jun 20 14:36:22 <stuk_gen> woglinde: oh ok :) so i'm waiting the finish building
Jun 20 14:43:21 <guyzmo> (I updated, and in a few hours, I'll know if it's still there :))
Jun 20 15:02:30 <stuk_gen> ouch...ERROR: package version for package qt4-embedded-plugin-gfxdriver-gfxpvregl-dbg went backwards which would break package feeds from (0:4.8.0-r50.1 to 0:4.8.0-r47.1)
Jun 20 15:02:56 <stuk_gen> i think i found the previous build
Jun 20 15:04:04 <woglinde> yes
Jun 20 15:04:13 <stuk_gen> what i have delete?
Jun 20 15:04:32 <woglinde> dont know what you did
Jun 20 15:04:36 <stuk_gen> the folder in works i have just delete before do the bitbake command
Jun 20 15:04:49 <woglinde> whats the version in the recipe now?
Jun 20 15:04:51 <woglinde> after update?
Jun 20 15:04:57 <stuk_gen> now is the r47
Jun 20 15:06:02 <stuk_gen> before i copy paste recipe and use r50
Jun 20 15:06:11 <stuk_gen> now i use the original recipes and is r47
Jun 20 15:06:33 <stuk_gen> so i have a qt4-embedded-4.8
Jun 20 15:06:40 <stuk_gen> 4.8.0-r47.1
Jun 20 15:06:54 <stuk_gen> in the work/armv7-angstrom-linux-gnueabi
Jun 20 15:07:03 <stuk_gen> and its correct
Jun 20 15:07:19 <stuk_gen> is there another folder where can be put the old r50 files?
Jun 20 15:08:39 <stuk_gen> ...i'm rerun...for secure..
Jun 20 15:09:14 <stuk_gen> mmm..finish without error
Jun 20 15:09:20 <stuk_gen> lol
Jun 20 15:09:24 <woglinde> just remove them
Jun 20 15:09:42 <stuk_gen> ok woglinde now in ipk i have a lot of qt ipk
Jun 20 15:09:43 <woglinde> nexttime try bitbake -cleansstate target before
Jun 20 15:09:57 <woglinde> where did I say it would be only 10 ipk
Jun 20 15:10:15 <stuk_gen> no its for inform you
Jun 20 15:10:40 <stuk_gen> the name is qt4-embedded-plugin-gfxdriver-gfxpvregl
Jun 20 15:10:48 <stuk_gen> i have to add this to my IMAGE_INSTALL?
Jun 20 15:24:21 <woglinde> stuk_gen yes
Jun 20 15:47:24 <Crofton|work> anyone remember the beagleboard demo gregoire did, where he switched between three OS's running on one beagle?
Jun 20 15:47:34 <Crofton|work> How did he handle the screen buffer changes?
Jun 20 15:48:00 <av500> magic?
Jun 20 15:48:10 <woglinde> Crofton ask himself
Jun 20 15:48:27 <av500> I guess he messed around in the driver a bitz
Jun 20 15:48:30 <av500> -z
Jun 20 15:48:43 <av500> each got a fake framebuffer and he shows the one he wants
Jun 20 15:49:10 <av500> we did something like that to merge android and our legacy stuff
Jun 20 15:50:21 <dm8tbr> oooh, war stories about gen7? :D
Jun 20 15:52:07 <stuk_gen> woglinde: are you think is bad add to IMAGE_INSTALL the package kernel-module-usbhid ?
Jun 20 15:52:07 <Crofton|work> intersting
Jun 20 15:52:15 <Crofton|work> I suppose I should hunt the patches
Jun 20 15:52:59 <av500> Crofton|work: good hunting
Jun 20 15:53:07 <av500> allegeldy there was a git
Jun 20 15:53:25 <Crofton|work> yes, I recall there was soe questioning going on :)
Jun 20 15:53:46 <av500> in the end you will just prevent people from doing REAL work by pestering them for source code....
Jun 20 15:54:11 <dm8tbr> git as in: http://gitorious.org/archos/archos-gpl-gen7-kernel and http://gitorious.org/archos/archos-gpl-gen7 ? :)
Jun 20 15:54:23 <av500> no
Jun 20 15:54:25 <av500> the AI one
Jun 20 15:54:29 <av500> for super jumbo
Jun 20 15:57:13 <woglinde> stuk_gen why should it be bad, its your image and you can make in it want you want
Jun 20 15:59:13 <stuk_gen> woglinde: ok
Jun 20 16:14:27 <guyzmo> re, I still got the 'genext2fs: set_file_size: ftruncate: Invalid argument' error... and I don't really know what's wrong :/
Jun 20 16:15:01 <woglinde> use another fs
Jun 20 16:15:25 <joelagnel1> guyzmo: host is 32 or 64 bit?
Jun 20 16:15:27 <mru> speaking of invalid argument: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y
Jun 20 16:16:06 <stuk_gen> the build image is finish correctly...tomorrow i try the image on beagleboard and if powervr works
Jun 20 16:16:17 <stuk_gen> for the moment...thanks to all help me
Jun 20 16:16:21 <harish_> hi
Jun 20 16:16:30 <guyzmo> joelagnel1 - 64bits
Jun 20 16:16:43 <harish_> is there any place to buy only beaglebone PCB
Jun 20 16:17:00 <guyzmo> err.. no
Jun 20 16:17:04 <harish_> we plan to assemble components on need basis
Jun 20 16:17:17 <av500> talk to circuitco
Jun 20 16:17:21 * stuk_gen remember using tomorrow when tell the history...he mean today :)
Jun 20 16:18:04 <guyzmo> indeed, it's 64bits
Jun 20 16:18:05 <stuk_gen> if the image work...tomorrow is the time for the step 2...qt creator XD
Jun 20 16:18:09 <joelagnel1> guyzmo: what is the image size?  I've had trouble in the past with large images sizes and genext2fs on 32bit. You might want to reduce the size
Jun 20 16:18:11 <joelagnel1> bbl
Jun 20 16:18:14 <stuk_gen> bye to all
Jun 20 16:18:26 <woglinde> bye stuk
Jun 20 16:18:32 <woglinde> hi joelagnel
Jun 20 16:18:44 <joelagnel1> hey woglinde
Jun 20 16:19:25 <cvanvliet> does anyone know if TI will ever re-roll the SGX driver for OMAP3 to armhf
Jun 20 16:19:30 <guyzmo> joelagnel1 - how can I check that ?
Jun 20 16:21:15 <woglinde> cvanvliet beg imagination for recompile
Jun 20 16:22:24 <cvanvliet> woglinde, thanks
Jun 20 16:24:13 <woglinde> cvanvliet or you could ask jkridner on this topic
Jun 20 16:24:57 <jkridner_> cvanvliet: there has certainly been some discussion on the matter and I think there is a hack to get it working as-is.
Jun 20 16:25:10 <cvanvliet> 0_0
Jun 20 16:25:11 <jkridner_> I believe TI can recompile it.
Jun 20 16:26:36 <cvanvliet> jkridner, I feel I am using a subpar system, if I have to use armel
Jun 20 16:26:56 <cvanvliet> and that the world is heading armhf anyway
Jun 20 16:27:23 <mru> the difference is miniscule
Jun 20 16:28:04 <jkridner_> mru: is the difference in favor of armhf?
Jun 20 16:28:15 <mru> usually
Jun 20 16:28:22 <mru> if you manage to measure it
Jun 20 16:28:23 <jkridner_> I know there are binary compatibility problems, but I think for embedded systems this is often less of a concern.
Jun 20 16:28:36 <jkridner_> are there cases where the performance regresses?
Jun 20 16:28:48 <mru> I'm sure it's possible to create one
Jun 20 16:32:11 <cvanvliet> jkridner, what would it take to make it happen, is it talking to Imagination, or TI or both
Jun 20 16:33:06 <jkridner_> I think it is just escalating at TI, but I might not be aware of issues TI is pushing up to IMG.
Jun 20 16:34:28 <cvanvliet> I am not a big player at all, I hope to use 500 devices a year, but I am keen to follow this up
Jun 20 16:35:08 <cvanvliet> so thanks for the advice
Jun 20 16:37:07 <cvanvliet> jkridner, where can I find out more about this hack?
Jun 20 16:38:00 <aholler> readelf ;)
Jun 20 16:38:05 <mru> you can always strip the .ARM.attributes section and hope for the best
Jun 20 16:47:03 <KKO> Hi everyone, I am new to embedded linux. I want to know can I port ubuntu on beaglebone and I want also run php, mysql, apache, python and java Thaks
Jun 20 16:47:46 <koen> it already has been ported
Jun 20 16:47:55 <koen> but you can port it again of course
Jun 20 16:48:17 <jkridner_> aholler: can you describe how to use readelf or otherwise hack the armel SGX binaries to run on armhf systems?
Jun 20 16:48:51 <jkridner_> KKO: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=beagleboard+ubuntu
Jun 20 16:49:04 <jkridner_> er, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=beagleboard+ubuntu&l=1
Jun 20 16:49:06 <aholler> jkridner_: no, I just have an idea, nothing else
Jun 20 16:49:34 <aholler> as mru said
Jun 20 16:49:53 <jkridner_> koen: didn't you say there was a hack?  Google isn't returning it for me yet.
Jun 20 16:49:57 <koen> jkridner_: ask prathab for the hf build he did
Jun 20 16:50:20 <guyzmo> really weird, I see several posts where people get troubles with genext2fs (one of them being a comment from koen) but all of them are left out without solution
Jun 20 16:50:48 <KKO> Hi, is it possible to run php, apache, mysql, java and python Thanks again
Jun 20 16:51:52 <woglinde> KKO yes
Jun 20 16:52:01 <guyzmo> KKO - short answer : yes, but you should think twice before trying to do so
Jun 20 16:52:07 <woglinde> but not all together proably
Jun 20 16:52:13 <woglinde> because of limited ram
Jun 20 16:52:17 <Crofton|work> http://verydemotivational.memebase.com/2012/06/13/demotivational-posters-pandas-2/
Jun 20 16:52:32 <Crofton|work> I suppose more appropriate for the panda channel :)
Jun 20 16:53:27 <KKO> I means apt-get install is easy and ubuntu environment is more familar than anstrom
Jun 20 16:53:49 <KKO> By the way, thanks all of your guys
Jun 20 16:54:25 <woglinde> opkg install is easy too
Jun 20 16:55:01 * joelagnel1 gets a dose of "Its business policy not to disclose register definitions" and is being supplied reg addresses and magic values by nxp
Jun 20 16:55:07 <KKO> But I dont know much about it
Jun 20 16:55:35 <guyzmo> KKO - then, it's easy, rtfm :)
Jun 20 16:55:35 <joelagnel1> sigh
Jun 20 16:56:52 <KKO> Thanks, jkridner, woglinde and guyzmo for all of your reply
Jun 20 16:57:30 <woglinde> sure
Jun 20 16:57:38 <guyzmo> you're welcome :)
Jun 20 16:57:38 <woglinde> it was not even worth a beer
Jun 20 16:57:48 <guyzmo> woglinde - LART is always worth a beer :)
Jun 20 16:58:12 <koen> SA1100 lart?
Jun 20 16:59:01 <guyzmo> hum :) I mean Luser Attitude Reajustment Tool :)
Jun 20 16:59:43 <cvanvliet> koen, so prathab has an armhf build? (does he/she come here)
Jun 20 16:59:46 <koen> http://www.lartmaker.nl/
Jun 20 16:59:48 <mranostay> aka shotgun?
Jun 20 16:59:58 <guyzmo> koen - and by the way, how did get through the genext2fs ftruncate bug you wrote about : http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/25045/ ?
Jun 20 17:00:07 <koen> TI has an hf build internally
Jun 20 17:00:14 <cvanvliet> ok
Jun 20 17:00:28 <guyzmo> there has also been a thread n the topic in the ML, but it just "ended" without solution
Jun 20 17:00:45 <koen> guyzmo: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-ti/commit/?id=e4a354f6b06ceed3ddcce73b2fe9bfa9f43334af
Jun 20 17:00:50 <cvanvliet> well I am not too far from Imagination Technologies here, so maybe I could front them up
Jun 20 17:00:57 <koen> guyzmo: update your checkout, that's almost a month old now
Jun 20 17:01:35 <guyzmo> I've done a oebb.sh update before asking
Jun 20 17:01:36 <guyzmo> weird
Jun 20 17:02:15 <koen> guyzmo: and a 'git pull'?
Jun 20 17:03:05 <guyzmo> urgh I (wrongly) assumed it was done by the oebb.sh update too
Jun 20 17:06:00 <guyzmo> koen - thanks, and I'll try to be less stupid next time :p
Jun 20 17:07:52 <denix> koen: wouldn't oebb try it's best to git pull the latest?
Jun 20 17:08:03 <denix> guyzmo: did you have your own local changes in the repo?
Jun 20 17:14:52 <guyzmo> denix - I have local changes
Jun 20 17:15:24 <guyzmo> but did not get an error
Jun 20 17:19:38 <woglinde> guyzmo setup-scripts skips than
Jun 20 17:19:54 <woglinde> till later maybbe
Jun 20 18:21:39 <aholler> oh, nvidia responded to linus finger ;)
Jun 20 18:34:32 <Dhiraj> hi jkridner, we were able to connect to a fpga and perform a synchronous gpmc write. but when we perform a synchronous read we receive only zeros. we can see the data arriving at the pin but don't get it in the memeory map. Any suggestions?
Jun 20 18:37:36 <jkridner_> have you done a bus capture with a logic analyzer?
Jun 20 18:39:03 <jkridner_> Dhiraj: ^^^
Jun 20 18:40:07 <prpplague> aholler: yea but they really didn't say much
Jun 20 18:42:09 <prpplague> aholler: basically these "we think we are doing a good job: buzz off"
Jun 20 18:43:03 <aholler> yes, but at least they responded. ;)
Jun 20 18:43:13 <aholler> so message arrived
Jun 20 18:44:08 <Dhiraj> yes, i can see the data comming out form fpga.
Jun 20 18:44:23 <Dhiraj> jkrinder_: ^^^
Jun 20 18:50:07 <aholler> hmm, I wonder when the notebook market will finally die because all factory-capacities for stuff like lcds and nand was bought by apple…
Jun 20 18:51:22 <aholler> s/notebook/notebook+tablet/
Jun 20 18:52:53 <mdp> aholler, you will always be able to buy the apple versions...so no worries
Jun 20 18:53:29 <aholler> the apple keyboard is unusable for me
Jun 20 18:53:30 <mdp> aholler, and you'll be another xcode/objc guru
Jun 20 18:53:58 <aholler> and I like to use what I want, not what apple believes I want ;)
Jun 20 18:54:24 <aholler> or what apple thinks I have to want
Jun 20 18:56:58 <mdp> if they want your opinion they'll give it to you.
Jun 20 18:57:07 <aholler> when I was young I was told I'm free and will become adult and responsible to think for myself ;)
Jun 20 18:57:17 <mdp> hehe
Jun 20 18:58:07 <mdp> s/adult/consumer/
Jun 20 19:01:28 <aholler> and censorship was bad, but all that isn't true anymore
Jun 20 19:05:53 <Dhiraj_> hi mdp, thank you so much for your help regarding the gpmc. We have gpmc up in the synchronous nor mode, and we can write from beaglebone to an fpga. we have a problem reading back the data. the data that we expect is coming out from the fpga and we can see it with the logic analyzer on the beaglebone's ad pin. we can't see the data on the memory map. any suggestions?
Jun 20 19:13:38 <Crofton|work> cache management?
Jun 20 19:43:08 <Dhiraj_> jkridner, we have the data coming out of the fpga and we can observe it with logic analyzer. but nothing comes into the memory map. is there something like enable_capture that we are missing? Any suggestions?
Jun 20 19:46:30 * mranostay scrolls up
Jun 20 20:04:28 <mdp> Dhiraj_, pinmux receivers enabled?
Jun 20 20:10:53 <mdp> if those aren't on, you'll have the situation where you drive the entire cycle (clk, address, output enable) and have the peripheral presenting the data, but you can't read it...but you'll be able to write on those same pins
Jun 20 20:16:45 <fraviofii> Where can I find the source code for x-load for beaglebone?
Jun 20 20:17:00 <fraviofii> Can I use the same source file from beagleboard-xm?
Jun 20 20:19:43 <Dhiraj_> mdp, I have checked them, the receivers are enabled on the pinmux
Jun 20 20:20:30 <Dhiraj_> mdp, is there any other things that you think might be the issue?
Jun 20 20:35:20 <mdp> Dhiraj_, that's all I can think of
Jun 20 20:59:08 <jkridner_> Dhiraj_: can you share your code?
Jun 20 21:40:55 <neels> on my BB xM rev C, pin 2 of the expansion header (labeled DC_5V by datasheet) measuers 3.6V, not 5V. Is this normal!?
Jun 20 21:41:06 <neels> * measures
Jun 20 21:41:54 <neels> (3.7V actually)
Jun 20 22:30:15 <Dhiraj_> jkridner_: here is the link to my gpmc source code http://pastebin.com/VS9PWxQt
Jun 20 22:30:41 <jkridner_> Dhiraj_: thanks.  mdp: FYI ^^^^
Jun 20 22:31:07 <jkridner_> how do you have it wired up?  are the data lines pulled any particular way?
Jun 20 22:33:53 <Dhiraj_> jkridner: i have the address/data lines in pullup but disabled and reciver enabled ie 0x38
Jun 20 22:37:08 <jkridner_> but you are getting 0x0000 vs. 0xffff, right/
Jun 20 22:41:33 <Dhiraj_> yes.
Jun 20 22:42:06 * neels surfed the BB xM revC schematics and voltage-metered around to discover that overvoltage protector U31 seems to be broken (gets 5V at input, is ENabled, but only 3.7 at the output pins)
Jun 20 22:42:50 * neels already soldered a bridge over U32, another overvoltage protector, which gave out 0V and an alarm flag despite no overvoltage present
Jun 20 22:43:19 <jkridner_> best to send a message to the mailing list as Gerald doesn't read the IRC.
Jun 20 22:43:20 * neels guesses U31 and U32 are bad quality devices......
Jun 20 22:46:15 <mranostay> consult the ph0rums?
Jun 20 22:46:56 <neels> (you're not talking to me are you?)
Jun 20 22:47:09 <Dhiraj_> jkridner: where do you think the problem can be? is the beagle bone not able to sample the ad line due to some paramemter misconfiguration?
Jun 20 22:47:42 <jkridner_> I'd want to see the timing on a logic analyzer to jump to a conclusion.
Jun 20 22:48:18 <Dhiraj_> ok.
Jun 20 22:48:19 <jkridner_> I'm in the middle of submitting an abstract right now, then I need to go pick my wife up, then I'll come back and try to duplicate what you've done.
Jun 20 22:48:34 <jkridner_> I don't have a logic analyzer handy though. :(
Jun 20 22:49:10 <jkridner_> if I could see that the control lines were moving and that the pins are actually high, it would give me some confidence on where to look.
Jun 20 22:51:06 <Dhiraj_> i can try to put the screen shot of the logic analyzer data. can you let me know some website i can share this screenshot with you.
Jun 20 22:53:03 <jacekowski> imgur
Jun 20 22:54:35 <mdp> Dhiraj_,can you share a spec of the timing requirements for what you are interfacing? otherwise it's only possible to guess at the requirements
Jun 20 22:58:28 <Dhiraj_> actually, we have interfaced a fpga. hence there is no document for the timimg spec but the timimgs are matched to requriments provided in data sheet of AM335x technical refrence  page no:427
Jun 20 23:02:22 <mdp> which section? I suspect i'm looking at a different trm rev
Jun 20 23:03:46 <riskable> What does everyone think of the new Kinetis KL2 "Freedomboard"?  http://www.newark.com/freescale-semiconductor/kl25z128vlk/kinetis-kl2-freedom-board/dp/05W3395?Ntt=05W3395&COM=freedompage_knode
Jun 20 23:04:16 <riskable> For $12.95 it seems like a great deal...  But I have yet to see any kind of IDE or simple mechanism to actually take advantage of it
Jun 20 23:08:30 <Dhiraj_> jkridner,mdp: here is the link to screenshot from the logic analyzer, http://i.imgur.com/HELHA.png
Jun 20 23:09:04 <mdp> ok. now on the same trm rev
Jun 20 23:10:30 <Dhiraj_> its section 7, figute no 7-18.
Jun 20 23:11:04 <Dhiraj_> mdp:its section 7, figure no 7-18.
Jun 20 23:11:28 <mdp> got it
Jun 20 23:13:16 <ds2> are you doing mmap in userland still?
Jun 20 23:13:28 <ds2> if so, how are you handling cache issues?
Jun 20 23:13:32 <mdp> it still does tell me what your fpga logic implementation requirement is. but I guess you are saying that the timing implemented in your sw config matches the logic
Jun 20 23:13:47 <mdp> s/does/does not/
Jun 20 23:15:58 <mdp> ds2, it'll be mapped uncached
Jun 20 23:16:16 <ds2> and is that being done correctly?
Jun 20 23:16:52 <Dhiraj_> mdp, yes it does. but let me explain it a bit more. there is a dual-port ram in the fpga. we have shorted the input of one port to the output of the other and then tri-stated it. hence, we write to the ram on one port and read it back on the other. but as far as the gpmc is concerned, the data is presented 1-2 clock cycles after the address is given
Jun 20 23:17:36 <ds2> can you show the code that is making it noncacheable?
Jun 20 23:18:28 <koen> Dhiraj_: here's some know working gpmc code for bone: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/beaglebone/0001-cssp_camera-driver.patch
Jun 20 23:18:45 <mdp> it's implicit in /dev/mem. one of the reasons /dev/mem is so evil for anything other than playing around
Jun 20 23:18:55 <ds2> koen: AFAIK, he's trying to do it in userland
Jun 20 23:19:16 <ds2> mdp: and you sure it is working for address spaces besides the normal register area?
Jun 20 23:19:59 <neels> riskable, 48MHz doesn't seem to be an awful lot for an ARM; compared to the BeagleBoard that thing is probably just an arduino-ish toy.
Jun 20 23:20:28 <riskable> neels: Yeah, it is meant to be an upgrade from Arduino... Not a full-blown Linux dev platform like the Beagleboard is
Jun 20 23:20:53 <riskable> Arduino is more of a development environment than it is a piece of hardware
Jun 20 23:21:06 <mdp> ds2, it varies by architecture...however I'm pretty sure I recall checking the mem driver for this before
Jun 20 23:21:15 <mdp> on arm, that is
Jun 20 23:21:17 <riskable> It would be interesting to see if someone puts together an Arduino (or Arduino-like) bootloader for that thing
Jun 20 23:21:24 * neels solders AT(mega|tiny)s, doesn't buy arduinos :P
Jun 20 23:21:38 <ds2> mdp: I seem to recall a thread a while ago on l-o with a lot of debate on those details
Jun 20 23:22:00 <mdp> ds2, but I'm not near a real computer atm to refresh my memory
Jun 20 23:22:08 <ds2> *nod*
Jun 20 23:22:12 <Dhiraj_> koen: thank you koen.I will take a look at it.
Jun 20 23:22:24 <ds2> at the very least, when troubleshooting this sort of thing, start with a kernel driver!
Jun 20 23:22:58 <mdp> ds2, kernel is scary.
Jun 20 23:23:40 <ds2> kernel is friendly. userland is plain freaky!
Jun 20 23:23:50 <mdp> ds2, yeah, the mem char driver is a convoluted mess
Jun 20 23:25:01 <mdp> ds2, I agree. I'm working on some tutorials for bone to get people over the scary factor
Jun 20 23:25:22 <ds2> mdp: module or built in?
Jun 20 23:26:45 <neels> I seem to be the only one soldering bridges past overvoltage protectors... well then, good night
Jun 20 23:27:14 <ds2> don't OV and you don't need them
Jun 20 23:27:37 <neels> exactly. and mine are breaking of their own accord...
Jun 20 23:28:14 <neels> I think one of them is used as a switch to keep USB powered down during board bootup, in case the battery is weak or something I gather.
Jun 20 23:28:38 <neels> not mine anymore...
Jun 20 23:29:14 <neels> also interesting: rated at 2A, but serving 5 USB devices...
Jun 20 23:30:41 <neels> heh and good night again :)
Jun 20 23:33:43 <mdp> ds2, module to start
Jun 20 23:35:07 <ds2> mdp: don't you risk koen's wrath at triggering a flood of where is the kernel sources?
Jun 20 23:36:25 <mranostay> where are the kernel sources at?
Jun 20 23:36:49 <koen> they are listed in the trm
Jun 20 23:36:56 <mdp> ds2, no. this includes "exact steps"
Jun 20 23:37:24 <mdp> it's the only way to combat the javascript insanity
Jun 20 23:38:37 <ds2> has someone started a 'write a userland driver in javascript' thread? ;)
Jun 20 23:39:05 <koen> kkeller did
Jun 20 23:39:16 <koen> for one of those nokia lcds
Jun 20 23:39:16 <ds2> oh my
Jun 20 23:39:32 <ds2> does it implement a userland way of creating a fb device too?
Jun 20 23:42:21 <koen> only if you are susceptible to jedi handwaves
Jun 20 23:43:21 <jakeday> where's the cheapest place to get a dvi-d cape for the beaglebone?
Jun 20 23:44:25 <ds2> build your own
Jun 20 23:44:53 <ds2> deadbug a DVI-D xmitter
Jun 21 00:36:45 <mdp> koen, and yet kkeller knows the value of doing a driver in the kernel and is helping with the tutorials
Jun 21 01:17:39 <jkridner__> Dhiraj_: I'm back from my chores.
Jun 21 01:19:03 <prpplague> jkridner__: you boss release you for the evening?
Jun 21 01:20:05 <jkridner__> not really.  She's looking for me to join her as soon as I finish my errands.
Jun 21 01:20:26 <ds2> 'finish' is subjective, isn't it? :D
Jun 21 01:21:56 <jkridner__> Dhiraj_: you don't seem to have left off the data bus, no?  or is this a shared adds/data mode?
Jun 21 01:22:10 <jkridner__> ds2: indeed it is. :)
Jun 21 01:22:13 <prpplague> jkridner__: ahh your electric collar is still functional..... my wife's remote is out of range with her visiting he relatives....
Jun 21 01:23:00 <jkridner__> it is in suspend mode while she does some work herself.
Jun 21 01:40:22 <koen> mdp: yes, kkeller is awesome
Jun 21 01:44:58 <mru> prpplague: plz help!!1! i am facing an issue with botting give exact steps for good linux boot plz
Jun 21 01:58:04 <prpplague> hehe
Jun 21 02:02:25 <mdp> prpplague, PM me please...need exact steps...help. plugged 12v into my pandaborad and need simple recovery
Jun 21 02:02:38 <prpplague> hehe
Jun 21 02:10:35 <aholler> a customer for the overltage protectors, Sir
Jun 21 02:11:43 <koen> prpplague: does 100 exact steps constitute a centipede?
Jun 21 02:13:58 <aholler> no, but 1 knob
Jun 21 02:14:09 <jkridner> Dhiraj_: there is a syntax error in what I downloaded.
Jun 21 02:16:53 <jkridner> Dhiraj_: also, the header file isn't included.
Jun 21 02:18:02 <jkridner> guess I need to download sys-bios
Jun 21 02:51:35 <KeatonT> oh beaglebone I wuv you.
Jun 21 02:51:37 <KeatonT> lol
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