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Jun 23 04:49:45 <kevinchen> Hey there. Is anyone able to help me with some first-boot problems on beagleboard rev. v3?
Jun 23 04:50:04 <kevinchen> I'm using this guide: http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/HowToGetAngstromRunning
Jun 23 04:50:57 <kevinchen> The suggested baud rate for connecting via serial is 115200, but when I connect using the screen utility, it just moves the cursor around and prints beep characters (though it does this deterministically).
Jun 23 04:51:26 <kevinchen> Also, it doesn't play the 2sec audio tone when it's booted (I assume this happens in U-Boot)
Jun 23 04:51:57 <kevinchen> Currently, I have only power, serial, and audio out plugged in. So no SD card.
Jun 23 04:55:14 <kevinchen> (So I've also searched google, stackexchange, etc.
Jun 23 04:58:21 <kevinchen> So I guess I will ask again later, since nobody is crazy enough to be online right now. Thanks & good night!
Jun 23 07:04:47 <heeen> does someone have the md5sum of Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.05-beaglebone-2012.06.18.img
Jun 23 07:05:47 <heeen> hmm seems to be correct
Jun 23 07:05:53 <heeen> I keep getting corrupt filesystem errors
Jun 23 07:06:51 <heeen> http://pastebin.com/ktjRfS3C
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Jun 23 10:20:48 <k4rtik> has any body tried creating a android open accessory dev kit using beaglebone?
Jun 23 10:31:01 <niro> Hey, how could I check if the graphics processor is being used on the xm?
Jun 23 10:38:19 <aholler> less /var/log/XFree0.log
Jun 23 10:38:44 <aholler> s/XFree0.log/Xorg.0.log/
Jun 23 11:29:06 <guyzmo> heyall
Jun 23 11:30:09 <guyzmo> I'm getting crazy, bitbake -c menuconfig virtual/kernel has the correct configuration for my needs
Jun 23 11:30:56 <guyzmo> and bitbake virtual/kernel does not create the uImage (neither in git/arch/arm/uImage in kernel sources)
Jun 23 11:31:18 <guyzmo> (I mean it does create in git/arch/arm/uImage in kernel sources, but not with *my* configuration)
Jun 23 12:57:23 <aks> Please suggest wifi USB adapter for Beagle Board with Ubuntu
Jun 23 12:58:53 <aum__> Please suggest wifi USB adapter for Beagle Board with Ubuntu platform
Jun 23 13:01:10 <damjan> aum__: tp-link 722
Jun 23 15:16:50 <Sh0rtWave> Aight
Jun 23 15:17:06 <Sh0rtWave> I got almost everything to build
Jun 23 15:17:12 <Sh0rtWave> with the exception of media-ctl
Jun 23 15:18:16 <Sh0rtWave> media-ctl fails on building because the kernel headers are missing. Looking at the config file, and reading Bob Galemin's blog, leads you to believe that you need the kernel-headers package on whatever distro you're building, HOWEVER, the configure script is actually called with --with-kernel-headers set to a path in the build directory (which makes a degree of sense, really)
Jun 23 15:18:48 <Sh0rtWave> The problem seems to be that the kernel package in question is lacking the media.h file, so something is bonked with the path. Anyone else have this problem?
Jun 23 15:20:09 <Sh0rtWave> find $path_to_the_sysroot_folder -name media.h returns no result, so I'm curious if buildroot downloaded the wrong kernel.
Jun 23 15:34:21 <Sh0rtWave> Hrm
Jun 23 15:34:28 <Sh0rtWave> The deeper I poke into this, the more I find wrong with it.
Jun 23 15:34:36 <Sh0rtWave> No wonder so many people have issues with it.
Jun 23 15:38:56 <Sh0rtWave> Something else too, it boots up mighty fast if you set the default runlevel to like 3
Jun 23 15:39:05 <Sh0rtWave> X is stupid sluggish to startup
Jun 23 16:04:55 <Sh0rtWave> Finally, success
Jun 23 16:04:59 <Sh0rtWave> now I can start actually developing
Jun 23 19:30:03 <jdcravens> trying to talk to a Beaglebone with Mac OSX 10.6. Ive followed Branden's post, updated the Info.plist file, set permissions to 644, but when I screen /dev/tty.usbserial-*B 115200 - I get a !p response
Jun 23 19:30:34 <jdcravens> sorry Branden's post: http://waxpraxis.tumblr.com/post/16772215153/talking-to-the-beaglebone-with-osx-10-7-lion
Jun 23 19:30:45 <jdcravens> any have experience here?
Jun 23 19:31:08 <Sh0rtWave> You get what sort of response?
Jun 23 19:31:12 <Sh0rtWave> a !p?
Jun 23 19:31:12 <jdcravens> !p
Jun 23 19:31:22 <jdcravens> yea cant find any documentation
Jun 23 19:31:34 <jdcravens> blank screen with a !p
Jun 23 19:31:35 <mru> np?
Jun 23 19:31:42 <Sh0rtWave> what do you see when you do an ls /dev/tty.usbserial*?
Jun 23 19:32:12 <jdcravens> I see both tty.usbserial-*A and tty.usbserial-*B
Jun 23 19:34:11 <Sh0rtWave> those are the exact names?
Jun 23 19:34:50 <jdcravens> sorry - I see /dev/tty.usbserial-TIVE2OAVA	/dev/tty.usbserial-TIVE2OAVB
Jun 23 19:34:55 <thurbad_> I'd use tab substitution rather than * in the commenad
Jun 23 19:35:08 <Sh0rtWave> thurbad_: Idea was to enumerate all devices
Jun 23 19:35:23 <Sh0rtWave> jdcravens: right, so
Jun 23 19:36:01 <Sh0rtWave> jdcravens: I presume you're aware, then, that your command needs to be screen /dev/tty.usbserial-TIVE2OAVB 115200
Jun 23 19:36:11 <thurbad_> but he's using * in the screen command line
Jun 23 19:36:20 <Sh0rtWave> thurbad_: see above :D
Jun 23 19:36:23 <mru> that should work
Jun 23 19:36:34 <mru> that pattern matches only one name
Jun 23 19:36:39 <jdcravens> i still get the !p
Jun 23 19:36:50 <jdcravens> with screen /dev/tty.usbserial-TIVE2OAVB 115200
Jun 23 19:37:17 <Sh0rtWave> hrm
Jun 23 19:37:28 <Sh0rtWave> just that once, or on every key input?
Jun 23 19:37:50 <Sh0rtWave> Did you try the AVA port?
Jun 23 19:38:00 <jdcravens> no
Jun 23 19:38:20 <Sh0rtWave> Curious to know what device order that driver wrangling creates
Jun 23 19:38:20 <jdcravens> not familiar with the AVA port
Jun 23 19:38:28 <jdcravens> looking now
Jun 23 19:38:37 <Sh0rtWave> See above re: TIVE2OAVB vs. TIVE2OAVA
Jun 23 19:39:10 <Sh0rtWave> alternatively, unplug your beaglebone, then run dmesg, then plug it back in, run dmesg again, see what changed
Jun 23 19:39:36 <jdcravens> oh yes
Jun 23 19:39:38 <jdcravens> I did
Jun 23 19:40:14 <Sh0rtWave> mru: since you're here...I has a question or two.
Jun 23 19:40:20 <Sh0rtWave> mru: Know much about buildroot?
Jun 23 19:40:26 <Sh0rtWave> with beagleboard xM?
Jun 23 19:40:39 <mru> enough to stay away from it
Jun 23 19:40:54 <Sh0rtWave> Mmm, see
Jun 23 19:40:56 <woglinde_> .o(why he wants buildroot?)
Jun 23 19:41:03 <Sh0rtWave> there's that thing I was talking about last night.
Jun 23 19:41:09 <mru> maybe he's been talking to av500 again
Jun 23 19:41:14 <Sh0rtWave> What buildsystem then SHOULD I be using?
Jun 23 19:41:23 <mru> depends on what you need
Jun 23 19:41:24 <thurbad_> make?
Jun 23 19:41:24 <Sh0rtWave> I need to make an mt9p031 camera work.
Jun 23 19:41:29 <woglinde_> that what ti preferes
Jun 23 19:41:51 <woglinde_> so I guess you need kernelheaders
Jun 23 19:41:55 <Sh0rtWave> And then I need some kind of either openCV or gst-ish solution
Jun 23 19:41:57 <woglinde_> and yes make
Jun 23 19:42:30 <woglinde_> Sh0rtWave uhm please come back when you know more about buildsystem, scm and  linux kernel modules
Jun 23 19:42:44 <Sh0rtWave> woglinde_: I know quite a lot about linux kernel modules, thanks.
Jun 23 19:42:54 <Sh0rtWave> woglinde_: Why would you suggest something in such a dismissive manner?
Jun 23 19:42:55 <woglinde_> o.O
Jun 23 19:43:11 <woglinde_> when you know about it why you asked such strange question
Jun 23 19:43:29 <thurbad_> someone's got to troll when av500  is not doing his job :P
Jun 23 19:43:30 <Sh0rtWave> woglinde_: My question is buildroot vs. openembedded vs. angstrom
Jun 23 19:43:45 <Sh0rtWave> woglinde_: NOT how to use make, I'm very well aquainted with make
Jun 23 19:43:52 <mru> that's comparing apples and oranges
Jun 23 19:43:56 <Sh0rtWave> I've been using linux for 20+ years at this point
Jun 23 19:44:00 <Sh0rtWave> mru: so it would seem.
Jun 23 19:44:11 <mru> I strongly doubt that
Jun 23 19:44:22 <mru> linux has only existed for 20 years
Jun 23 19:44:24 <Sh0rtWave> mru: I could probably build a very bare system with just a linux kernel and the most minimal rootfs
Jun 23 19:44:28 <thurbad_> heh
Jun 23 19:44:36 <woglinde_> *g*
Jun 23 19:44:47 <woglinde_> than do it that way
Jun 23 19:44:52 <woglinde_> if you know the way
Jun 23 19:45:01 <Sh0rtWave> mru: problem is
Jun 23 19:45:32 <Sh0rtWave> mru: I need a lot of other support for things like gst and what-not and buildroot seems to do an ok job of collecting all that
Jun 23 19:45:44 <Sh0rtWave> I'm curious why people don't like it
Jun 23 19:45:50 <mru> problem is you just boasted just a little too much about your vast experience
Jun 23 19:46:07 <mru> now nobody will take you seriously any more (if they did before)
Jun 23 19:46:12 <Sh0rtWave> what, 20+ years?
Jun 23 19:46:17 <Sh0rtWave> It's near-enough
Jun 23 19:46:23 <thurbad_> maybe he meant unix
Jun 23 19:46:25 <Sh0rtWave> I don't remember when I started with it exactly
Jun 23 19:46:34 <Sh0rtWave> I got my first copy of it off of a BBS
Jun 23 19:46:36 <jdcravens> the only difference I see is 2 more logs for FTDIUSBSerialDriver:        0  4036010 start - ok
Jun 23 19:46:39 <mru> *Linus* started ~20 years ago
Jun 23 19:46:43 <Sh0rtWave> jdcravens: sweetness
Jun 23 19:46:59 <Sh0rtWave> jdcravens: So those would be your connects...does it mention the device that got connected?
Jun 23 19:47:02 <mru> besides, number of years experience has no relevance
Jun 23 19:47:31 <mru> if you don't know how to do what you're trying to accomplish *now*, it doesn't really matter what you've done before
Jun 23 19:47:34 <Sh0rtWave> mru: that is true, but I have been building LFS systems for some time...mostly PC, only a few embedded systems. buildroot is something of a new experience.
Jun 23 19:47:56 <Sh0rtWave> mru: The point is that I'm not a neophyte when it comes to kernel headers and what-not.
Jun 23 19:48:04 <mru> if you really had 20 years of _relevant_ experience, you would not be asking these questions
Jun 23 19:48:25 <mru> hmm, you know kernel modules well but are new to headers?
Jun 23 19:48:26 <mru> wtf?
Jun 23 19:48:31 <Sh0rtWave> I know how to build a kernel, the issue is the "magic sauce" of the config stuff. I tried Bob Galemin's setup but it seems to be lacking in certain ways, so I'm working my way to a working config there.
Jun 23 19:48:37 <thurbad_> his experience really isn't the point, is it?
Jun 23 19:48:37 <Sh0rtWave> mru: Errr
Jun 23 19:48:48 <Sh0rtWave> mru: When did I say I was new to headers?
Jun 23 19:48:55 <mru> thurbad_: he was the one who brought it up
Jun 23 19:49:00 <Sh0rtWave> mru: I said I was new to *buildroot*.
Jun 23 19:49:15 <mru> sorry, I missed a "not"
Jun 23 19:49:45 <jdcravens> USBF:	1.318	[0x73b7600] The IOUSBFamily is having trouble enumerating a USB device that has been plugged in.  It will keep retrying.
Jun 23 19:49:49 <woglinde_> *g*
Jun 23 19:49:53 <Sh0rtWave> Anyway
Jun 23 19:50:01 <jdcravens> USBF:	10.216	[0x73b7600] The IOUSBFamily was not able to enumerate a device.
Jun 23 19:50:07 <Sh0rtWave> mru: why do you hate buildroot?
Jun 23 19:50:15 <Sh0rtWave> jdcravens: Now that's an interesting message.
Jun 23 19:50:18 <mru> I didn't say I hate it
Jun 23 19:50:31 <Sh0rtWave> mru: fair enough. Why do you choose to avoid it?
Jun 23 19:50:45 <mru> there are things that work better for me
Jun 23 19:51:20 <woglinde> .o(i know the next question)
Jun 23 19:51:55 <thurbad_> what is your favorite color?
Jun 23 19:52:05 <thurbad_> see.. bet you didn't expect THAT?
Jun 23 19:52:08 <jdcravens> Sh0rtWave: any suggestions as to what to look for next?
Jun 23 19:52:16 <mru> nobody expects the spanish inquisition
Jun 23 19:52:29 <Sh0rtWave> jdcravens: I'd try rebooting the machine at that point.
Jun 23 19:52:36 <Sh0rtWave> mru: hah, fair enough.
Jun 23 19:53:08 <Sh0rtWave> mru: I won't trouble you with an open-embedded question then :D
Jun 23 19:53:13 <Sh0rtWave> think I probably know the answer to that one.
Jun 23 19:53:27 <mru> there are better people to ask about OE
Jun 23 19:53:50 <Sh0rtWave> mayhap
Jun 23 19:54:07 <thurbad_> I use the angstrom build scripts repo has served me well
Jun 23 19:54:21 <Sh0rtWave> I found a few issues in buildroot's stuff thus far
Jun 23 19:56:12 <Sh0rtWave> getting udev working is a right pain
Jun 23 19:56:13 <woglinde> hi ka6sox
Jun 23 19:56:22 <woglinde> o.O
Jun 23 19:58:25 <Sh0rtWave> The thing I'm hating most about buildroot is it seems to be optimized for that codesourcery toolchain
Jun 23 19:58:30 <Sh0rtWave> I'm using the angstrom one.
Jun 23 19:58:33 <Sh0rtWave> makes for headaches
Jun 23 19:59:03 <ka6sox> hi woglinde
Jun 23 19:59:05 <mru> optimised how?
Jun 23 19:59:10 <mru> it's just gcc
Jun 23 20:00:27 <Sh0rtWave> I think there are things in the toolchain config, that when you choose a different toolchain, has subtle effects that have to be adjusted for
Jun 23 20:01:17 <mru> like what?
Jun 23 20:01:27 <woglinde> .o(popcorn)
Jun 23 20:01:50 <Sh0rtWave> most of what I've found is little things like paths to things
Jun 23 20:02:31 <Sh0rtWave> like when building media-ctl, for instance, wants media.h
Jun 23 20:02:36 <Sh0rtWave> it's looking for it in the wrong place
Jun 23 20:03:08 <Sh0rtWave> most things seem to build ok
Jun 23 20:03:25 <Sh0rtWave> woglinde: is that sufficiently amusing, or am I disappointing you?
Jun 23 20:05:35 <mru> and that relates to codesourcery how?
Jun 23 20:06:03 <Sh0rtWave> noy codesourcery
Jun 23 20:06:08 <Sh0rtWave> not that is
Jun 23 20:06:26 <Sh0rtWave> buildroot
Jun 23 20:07:12 <Sh0rtWave> I didn't say it was hard to fix. It's just irritating
Jun 23 21:57:31 <mranostay> hi mru  :)
Jun 23 21:57:42 <mranostay> shouldn't you be drinking now? :)
Jun 23 21:57:43 <woglinde> hi mranostay
Jun 23 21:57:57 <mru> mranostay: who says I'm not?
Jun 23 21:58:13 <mranostay> ok good point
Jun 23 21:58:18 <mru> -o
Jun 23 21:59:21 <buggle> Hi, has anyone here been successful in cross compiling using codesourcery in eclipse on a windows machine?
Jun 23 22:00:09 <woglinde> buggle why?
Jun 23 22:00:36 <mranostay> i rather slam my fingers in the door than use CS + Eclipse :)
Jun 23 22:00:41 <mranostay> and Windows
Jun 23 22:00:53 * mru slams a window on mranostay's fingers
Jun 23 22:00:58 <woglinde> mranostay hm gcc via eclipse is okay
Jun 23 22:01:00 <buggle> im asking because im unsuccessful using all these recipes on the net...I need to hear that someone succeeded...this has been stealing all my hours today :)
Jun 23 22:01:07 <mru> gcc without eclipse is at least as ok
Jun 23 22:01:12 <woglinde> either autotools or cmake works good enough
Jun 23 22:01:32 <mru> autotools is usually easier to debug when it (inevitably) goes wrong
Jun 23 22:01:53 <woglinde> mru I meant the eclipse support for them
Jun 23 22:02:28 <mru> eclipse is easy to debug, you simply delete it and carry on the sane way
Jun 23 22:02:37 <woglinde> *g*
Jun 23 22:02:52 <woglinde> yeah I am to dumb for vim and cscope
Jun 23 22:03:20 <mru> grep ftw
Jun 23 22:03:49 * mranostay doesn't use IDEs at all
Jun 23 22:03:55 <mru> good man
Jun 23 22:04:12 <mru> my faith in humanity is restored
Jun 23 22:04:44 <mru> mranostay: you're carrying a huge responsibility there, don't disappoint me
Jun 23 22:04:58 <mru> or there'll be no beer
Jun 23 22:08:16 <mranostay> too early. need coffee actually
Jun 23 22:23:09 <brillopad> Hi guys
Jun 23 22:23:33 <brillopad> Bought a small LCD display for use with my BeagleBone. I've followed the instructions here but nothing is displaying: http://www.nunoalves.com/open_source/?p=152
Jun 23 22:23:44 <brillopad> Is there a way of testing the LCD to make sure that I haven't bought a dud?
Jun 23 22:32:26 <mranostay> *blech* they upped the price of coffee here 25%
Jun 23 22:32:52 <mranostay> mru: should have gotten a beer.
Jun 23 23:52:06 <niro_> brillopad, is the backlight on
Jun 23 23:52:07 <niro_> ?
Jun 23 23:52:15 <brillopad> Hi niro_
Jun 23 23:52:25 <brillopad> Doesn't have one
Jun 23 23:52:37 <brillopad> Same number of pins as the backlit one though, just don't use the last two
Jun 23 23:54:08 <niro_> Have you attached a potentiometer?
Jun 23 23:54:17 <brillopad> That's where I may be going wrong
Jun 23 23:54:28 <brillopad> Don't have one - just thought I could either leave it blank or kick 3.3v in there
Jun 23 23:54:34 <brillopad> Am I completely and utterly wrong by any chance?
Jun 23 23:55:20 <niro_> Well, if it's 0, or 3.3 it'll either be completely blank, or fully black.
Jun 23 23:55:29 <brillopad> Hmmm
Jun 23 23:55:39 <brillopad> Wish it had been fully black, it's done nothing at all!
Jun 23 23:56:03 <brillopad> Wired it all up exactly as it said (apart from the potentiometer) and was expecting something to happen, but nothing
Jun 23 23:56:17 <brillopad> 5V in on PIN 2
Jun 23 23:56:40 <niro_> actually, the input is 5v for the contrast...
Jun 23 23:57:06 <brillopad> Hmmmm
Jun 23 23:57:34 <brillopad> So try putting 5v through pin 3?
Jun 23 23:58:21 <niro_> yes
Jun 24 00:00:39 <brillopad> OK, will do
Jun 24 00:00:41 <brillopad> Thanks :)
Jun 24 00:01:09 <niro_> It won't solve it, but you'll see if the lcd does something.
Jun 24 00:03:59 <brillopad> Yep, that's what I need
Jun 24 00:04:15 <niro_> Are you going to try it now?
Jun 24 00:17:44 <brillopad> niro_, yep
Jun 24 00:17:48 <brillopad> But I've run into another problem here
Jun 24 00:17:59 <brillopad> Don't know whether you can cast some light on it
Jun 24 00:18:25 <brillopad> i was told that the GPIO number was the chip number * 32 and then add the pin number
Jun 24 00:18:32 <brillopad> So GPIO1_6 would be 38
Jun 24 00:18:39 <brillopad> And GPIO 1_2 would be 34
Jun 24 00:19:24 <brillopad> GPIO 1_6 works fine. GPIO 1_2 doesn't do anything. GPIO 1_6 is on P8, conn 3, GPIO 1_2 is on P8 conn 5.
Jun 24 00:19:27 <brillopad> Any ideas on that?
Jun 24 00:19:35 <brillopad> Realise that I'm full of stupid questions tonight, sorry :-/
Jun 24 00:20:51 <brillopad> Actually think this is the reason that the LED isn't working.
Jun 24 00:20:54 <brillopad> LCD, sorry
Jun 24 00:28:39 <brillopad> niro_, think I know where I'm going wrong...
Jun 24 00:29:57 <brillopad> Turns out that the pins aren't always set to 'mode 7' if that makes any sense. Did not know that.
Jun 24 00:29:59 <brillopad> http://akademii.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/beaglebone-gpio-testing.html
Jun 24 00:40:08 <heeen> Is it safe to hook a tmp102 directly to the beaglebone
Jun 24 00:40:21 <heeen> via i2c and the 1.8v supply onboard
Jun 24 00:41:04 <heeen> 10mA Active (max)
Jun 24 00:41:27 <heeen> 10µA
Jun 24 00:57:40 <Borillion> why am I seeing make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2 when I do make menuconfig?
Jun 24 01:12:56 <riskable> What's the difference between the AM3359 and the AM3358?
Jun 24 01:14:01 <riskable> Nevermind,...  I was able to find it in Google.  Apparently the difference is the AM3358 lacks the "EtherCat" module.  Whatever that is
Jun 24 01:33:47 <riskable> Really wish there was a way to access the USB port via a P8 or P9 (so I could, say, make a USB hub cape)
Jun 24 01:34:48 <mru> time to brush up your pcb reworking skills?
Jun 24 01:41:39 <riskable> Well, the pins for the USB host connector are exposed...  Might be possible to create something that reaches down and grabs em'
Jun 24 01:54:00 <riskable> I bet a surface-mount header installed upside down on the bottom of a cape would do the trick  Might need like 0.1mm of an extra bend though...  Meaning you'd have to angle the header slightly when you soldered it into the cape
Jun 24 02:22:16 <Borillion> anyone know much about 3g modems ? what are these mutliple converters Im seening being attached? http://pastebin.com/xE2WAaVh
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