**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jun 28 02:59:59 2012 Jun 28 03:20:56 is anyone doing ax.25? Jun 28 03:21:11 ham stuff Jun 28 03:21:53 I've got ubuntu linux running with ax.25 in the kernel but I'm having problems compiling the utilities Jun 28 08:01:21 what is the best way to install python 2.6 on beagleboard? Jun 28 08:02:26 because if i download the python2.6 core when i use opkg install, opkg try to download 2.7 -.- Jun 28 08:07:11 gm Jun 28 08:07:21 why you need 2.6? Jun 28 08:08:19 because i have a scipt that use py-usb0.4 Jun 28 08:08:29 and pyusb0.4 is python2.6 Jun 28 08:09:15 portit Jun 28 08:09:25 i don't made the script Jun 28 08:10:11 use pyusb 1.0 Jun 28 08:10:12 but why if i donwload a python-modules2.6 its download all module for 2.7? Jun 28 08:10:36 with pyusb1.0 don't work Jun 28 08:11:25 what dont works? Jun 28 08:11:32 what are you doing with pyusb? Jun 28 08:11:42 i'm using a library for using nfc device Jun 28 08:12:30 hm Jun 28 08:12:54 you maybee need to load them all by hand and install them via opkg foo.ipk Jun 28 08:13:50 cool... Jun 28 08:14:04 works very well opkg :) Jun 28 08:15:17 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?section=devel/python Jun 28 08:15:40 i know i know Jun 28 08:15:56 i have to download 30 packagage manually Jun 28 08:15:58 and prey Jun 28 08:16:09 okay Jun 28 08:16:50 opkg install whatiwant --dontdownloadpackage>whatiwant.version Jun 28 08:16:52 :D Jun 28 09:10:27 no its impossibile Jun 28 09:10:35 opkg is a very shit Jun 28 09:10:37 :D Jun 28 09:11:03 o.O Jun 28 09:11:13 than use win8/rt Jun 28 09:11:25 manually downloading, wtf? Jun 28 09:11:35 opkg update ; opkg install python-modules Jun 28 09:11:37 boom Jun 28 09:11:38 done Jun 28 09:13:03 koen where do you have python2.6 in the repos Jun 28 09:13:11 that was the question Jun 28 09:16:33 nowhere Jun 28 09:16:41 why the **** would you need 2.6? Jun 28 09:16:58 scroll back Jun 28 09:17:06 and not me Jun 28 09:17:12 I only wanted to help Jun 28 09:17:39 I proably could port the nfc app to 2.7 and pyusb1.0 Jun 28 09:18:02 woglinde: i think this the unique possibility Jun 28 09:18:20 the last change is port the pyusb0.4 on 2.7 XD Jun 28 09:20:11 then install ubuntu Jun 28 09:21:44 lol Jun 28 09:23:57 *g* Jun 28 09:24:28 what's there to port? Jun 28 09:24:36 py2.6 and py2.7 are compatible Jun 28 09:24:46 unless you have some evil binary only module Jun 28 09:24:55 or hardcode the install path to /usr/lib/python2.6 Jun 28 09:25:16 the problem is i need pyusb0.4 Jun 28 09:25:23 and python2.7 have pyusb1.0 Jun 28 09:38:42 uuuh Jun 28 09:38:45 maybe its works Jun 28 10:15:18 Hello everyone, did someone made a camera/webcam working on a beaglebone ? I'm relatively new to all of this. Jun 28 10:16:59 http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/c66a1014681beb4fe88fc048c595dfed.png ? Jun 28 10:17:19 ? Jun 28 10:28:40 koen: this patched kernel for bb-xm you gave me yesterday, dont want to compile: http://pastebin.com/v35wxs97 Jun 28 10:29:15 koen: I checked both branches - 3.2 and 3.4 Jun 28 10:43:08 koen: you told me, that you have working IPv6. Can you send me your kernel image? I need to test some app till friday, so I dont have time to play with editing kernel right now Jun 28 10:43:16 if it works, I will fix it by myself Jun 28 10:43:50 (beagleboard-xm rev C) Jun 28 10:44:05 aleek use the demoimage kernel Jun 28 10:44:48 http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ this one? Jun 28 10:45:49 yes Jun 28 10:46:15 ok Jun 28 10:46:27 or try the sakoman mkcard.sh script Jun 28 10:46:39 which lets you install somehting fast too Jun 28 10:48:03 http://www.sakoman.com/category/8-gnome-daily-builds-r13.html Jun 28 11:03:39 hi.. i have a problem. i booting my sdcard on beagle board. uncompressed linux freeze. can you help me? Jun 28 11:09:56 nn set console= in kernel cmdline right Jun 28 11:15:55 Hi, I am a developer famalier with microchip PIC24. There the whole code was in firmware. So I required an in-circuit debugger. Jun 28 11:16:18 now for beagle with boot and all, will I require an external debugger for SPI level debugging ? Jun 28 11:17:10 I want to be able to debug as I used to debug for PIC24. Any comments will be appreciated. Jun 28 11:17:48 OS is any linux flavour Jun 28 11:17:50 haven't used SPI specifically, but the need for an external debugger is rather very low with those Jun 28 11:18:58 #beagle hi.. i have a problem. i booting my sdcard on beagle board. uncompressed linux freeze. can you help me? Jun 28 11:19:14 dm8tbr, will I be able to set breakpoints on ISR level code without any external debugger ??? Jun 28 11:21:54 no idea. Also your question-mark key seems to need de-bouncing... Jun 28 11:22:01 When does it freeze? Jun 28 11:22:03 nda hi again, please the console in your ubootconf right Jun 28 11:22:08 +set Jun 28 11:23:08 oh dm8tbr got offended. heres more Jun 28 11:23:11 ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Jun 28 11:23:54 friday? Jun 28 11:24:07 LULZ Jun 28 11:25:03 bradfa: ping Jun 28 11:25:14 hey mdp Jun 28 11:25:20 hey panto Jun 28 11:25:31 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/beagleboard/5QRWB_DNQN4/rd8_iHxy7z8J Jun 28 11:25:37 same problem this page Jun 28 11:28:23 is there any idea this problem ? Jun 28 11:28:31 mdp, pong! Jun 28 11:29:43 bradfa, hi, saw your mention of your current readings...that's with your resistor inline to the supply? Jun 28 11:30:14 it's the only way I could read sub 1mA currents Jun 28 11:30:21 we have shitty meters Jun 28 11:30:23 sure Jun 28 11:30:34 I'm not quite sure what I'm missing here. I have partitioned my sd card with the mkcard.txt found on http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/, downloaded MLO, u-boot.img and uImage to the first partition and untarred the .tar.bz2 to the second one.. And my beaglebone still won't boot. No leds are flashing, the PWR led is shining (Yes, the SD card is inserted into the board) Jun 28 11:30:53 just wanted to confirm before I point out that there's a lot more on the board than just the SoC...so that can be very much expected. Jun 28 11:31:11 #beagle https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/beagleboard/5QRWB_DNQN4/rd8_iHxy7z8J same problem,this page. Does anyone have an idea about this problem Jun 28 11:31:13 especially on a board that isn't designed for PM in the first place Jun 28 11:31:22 mdp, but I was measuring the 5V dc input and had the pmic in "off" state Jun 28 11:31:39 what else runs on that 5V? Jun 28 11:31:42 USB plugged in? Jun 28 11:31:46 nope Jun 28 11:31:51 ok ;) Jun 28 11:31:54 :) Jun 28 11:31:56 let's see Jun 28 11:32:13 i did a quick look through schematic and didn't see anything Jun 28 11:32:20 * bradfa looks again Jun 28 11:32:23 I've had a number of pre-production systems where we had to bypass all their usb debug crap to even get accurate readings. Jun 28 11:32:44 so I was wondering if you were hitting that.. Jun 28 11:32:59 measuring on an A5, no usb devices (not otg either) connected Jun 28 11:33:15 power provided on VDD_5V Jun 28 11:33:34 I don't see anywhere that "DC_IN" goes other than the PMIC Jun 28 11:33:48 unless the NCP349 draws quite a bit... Jun 28 11:35:14 according to my search on the pdf, VDD_5V and DC_IN only go to the PMIC and P9 and P5 Jun 28 11:35:29 hi Jun 28 11:36:10 iam a student can any one help to my project Jun 28 11:36:23 SYS_5V powers USB, but I assume (possibly wrongly?) that it gets turned off in PMIC "off" mode Jun 28 11:36:28 * bradfa checks trm again... Jun 28 11:36:35 san: you can help yourself, we might provide pointers. Jun 28 11:36:59 san, don't ask to ask Jun 28 11:37:04 just ask Jun 28 11:37:21 i have interfaced gps receiver to BB c4 iam getting NMEA data Jun 28 11:37:37 .o(ohnoez) Jun 28 11:37:49 but when i opened maps the exact location is not showing Jun 28 11:38:19 is anything reading the NMEA data? Jun 28 11:38:44 yeah reading data and getting valid data Jun 28 11:38:50 Hello everyone. Did someone use a webam/camera successfully with the beaglebone ? Jun 28 11:39:32 im trying this topic Jun 28 11:39:55 san, what I mean is is there a program reading the data? Jun 28 11:39:55 I have ported Angstrom OS using tangogps for maps Jun 28 11:40:07 ah, I'm wrong about SYS_5V, it's a pass through in AC power mode Jun 28 11:40:26 i didnot written any program Jun 28 11:41:08 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/beagleboard/5QRWB_DNQN4/rd8_iHxy7z8J. Is able to solve this problem? Jun 28 11:41:15 panto please if u have any program Jun 28 11:41:24 so then the tps73701 linear dc-dc is powered but should be disabled by VDD_3V3A Jun 28 11:41:49 san, how do you expect the data from the uart GPS to end up in the map display application? Jun 28 11:42:30 iam new to this please kindly help me Jun 28 11:42:32 mdp, and all the LDOs are (should?) be off, the power LED turns off Jun 28 11:43:06 the NCP349 has 140-250uA draw with no load for one Jun 28 11:43:11 san, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gpsd Jun 28 11:43:25 ooo Jun 28 11:43:28 ;) Jun 28 11:43:34 that's quite a lot! Jun 28 11:43:38 more than the PMIC! Jun 28 11:43:38 jeez mdp, what are you doing up? Jun 28 11:43:47 hey Russ Jun 28 11:43:53 hey panto Jun 28 11:43:57 Russ, mdp couldn't sleep till could ask me about my power measurements :) Jun 28 11:44:02 Russ, it's almost work time over here! Jun 28 11:44:10 that's exactly it! Jun 28 11:44:12 he's that dedicated! Jun 28 11:44:13 I know, call in 3 hours Jun 28 11:44:23 Russ, um, wtf are you doing up? Jun 28 11:44:25 when i opened maps in terminal iam seeing messages like this gpsd port not set Jun 28 11:44:43 trying to figure out why my evm is so flaky Jun 28 11:44:59 that sounds not so interesting, but ok Jun 28 11:45:24 san: well then fix that setting. what are you waiting for? Jun 28 11:45:34 I was hoping for, "I'm building an autonomous moon rover from salvage yard parts to go up on the next spacex launch" Jun 28 11:45:49 Russ, which EVM is that? I have an AM3517 Jun 28 11:45:55 37x Jun 28 11:46:00 (tangogps:3909): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_toolbar_set_icon_size: assertion `icon_size != GTK_ICON_SIZE_INVALID' failed REPOLIST == NULL gconf GPSD address not set gconf GPSD port not set *** on_drawingarea1_configure_event(): iam getting like this Jun 28 11:46:01 drat Jun 28 11:46:33 Russ, the mistral one? Jun 28 11:46:47 yup Jun 28 11:47:09 have that too, but I hoped I wouldn't have to use it :) Jun 28 11:47:20 audio at least works Jun 28 11:47:26 cause, you guess it, it acts flakey Jun 28 11:47:48 but it sometimes goes off and tries to execute 0xffffffff or 0xffffffdf instructions Jun 28 11:47:58 are you working with an arago toolchain? Jun 28 11:48:03 nope Jun 28 11:48:11 angrstom? Jun 28 11:48:16 and fs? Jun 28 11:48:25 Ubuntu/Linaro Jun 28 11:48:36 I just changed from 4.6 to 4.7, no change in flakeyness Jun 28 11:48:40 Angstrom OS Jun 28 11:48:41 fs is Arago Jun 28 11:48:53 bradfa, seems like there's 270uA unaccounted for.. Jun 28 11:48:58 hum Jun 28 11:49:08 I might just start hacking on that next Jun 28 11:49:25 I'm trying to get setup to test video capture Jun 28 11:49:57 always had bad luck with mistral boards Jun 28 11:50:45 panto response me Jun 28 11:51:25 san, I'm not going to do your homework for you Jun 28 11:51:39 gspd is what you need Jun 28 11:52:03 i have installed gpsd sucessfully Jun 28 11:52:39 panto san trolled yesterday here too Jun 28 11:52:44 panto and I give up Jun 28 11:52:50 is unwilling to read the gpsd doku Jun 28 11:53:06 and to understand where gpsd exposes the data via tcp Jun 28 11:53:06 woglinde, that's all I can do then Jun 28 11:55:22 What could I be doing wrong here? Jun 28 11:55:40 dxtr you used pastebin? Jun 28 11:56:08 mdp, yeah... the tps737 linear doesn't look like it contributes much, few nA at most Jun 28 11:56:13 woglinde: What am I to paste? Jun 28 11:56:38 The beaglebone doesn't boot after I've done what I wrote above and I won't get an output in the serial console Jun 28 11:56:41 any* Jun 28 11:57:13 dxtr in which order you copied MLO and uboot over? Jun 28 11:57:16 mdp, but! SYS_5V does drop over about 17k ohm direct to ground, there's a bit! Jun 28 11:57:20 if you don't get any output, then most likely it's a wrong prepared SD card Jun 28 11:57:30 290ish uA Jun 28 11:57:35 woglinde: Oh, does that matter? .p Jun 28 11:57:41 dm8tbr I read that someties the order may matter Jun 28 11:57:46 it shouldn't nowadays! Jun 28 11:58:04 mdp, so there's the rest. Guess 570uA in "off" is expected then. Oh well. Jun 28 11:58:15 dm8tbr but why the script should be wrong Jun 28 11:58:19 dm8tbr: I used mkcard.txt on http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/ to prepare my sd card Jun 28 11:58:38 dunno Jun 28 11:58:54 might also have been premature unmounting or sthg? Jun 28 11:59:12 Well, as far as I know umount syncs before it unmounts Jun 28 11:59:14 Am I wrong? Jun 28 11:59:23 dxtr try the script again and copy MLO first Jun 28 11:59:30 woglinde: Aight Jun 28 11:59:35 bradfa, that's the right number we were looking for too! Jun 28 12:00:00 mdp, so about 2.85mW which isn't that much. Plus my main concern is when running on lipo, which means SYS_5V shouldn't be a passthrough and the NCP349 won't be working either Jun 28 12:00:10 lunch now Jun 28 12:00:12 till later Jun 28 12:00:17 I'll do measurements on that, I expect about 10uA just from PMIC, we'll see! Jun 28 12:00:46 bradfa, yep..then you're more like a "real system" rather than a devel board Jun 28 12:01:08 do we know if this script is prone to produce the FAT geometry the ROMBL hates? Jun 28 12:01:12 mdp, yey! I'm a "real system" (like a "real boy?" pinochio style) Jun 28 12:01:19 hehe Jun 28 12:01:47 bone will be going in extruded aluminum enclosure with custom cape and lipo (for when customer pulls power cord without shutting down first) Jun 28 12:03:07 mdp, thanks for helping me search for power consumers! Jun 28 12:03:24 glad to join the hunt Jun 28 12:03:45 I'll try to take lipo measurements this week and write to list Jun 28 12:03:58 also going to send our results of power hunting just so others can reference them Jun 28 12:04:02 I wish we had somebody to give us exact steps though...*whew* that was too difficult to think! Jun 28 12:04:25 :) Jun 28 12:04:47 bradfa, cool, should help others trying to do similar things Jun 28 12:05:04 you even made me read about tps65217...never had a reason before ;) Jun 28 12:05:47 mdp, tps65217 isn't a bad little chip Jun 28 12:07:29 I'll take your word for it...unless I'm actually doing something specific with them, we have such a dizzying array of PMIC options for the various parts that it's hard to know them Jun 28 12:07:52 agreed about dizzying array, but that seems to be life for picking any part these days Jun 28 12:08:18 heck, we only picked am335x because of Beagle, otherwise would have probably gone Freescale Jun 28 12:08:29 ability to get white label bones was a big deal Jun 28 12:08:36 then I built a kernel... Jun 28 12:09:43 yeah, I was forced to learn tps65921 last year while sitting in front of an angry customer...a true joy. Jun 28 12:10:19 bradfa, and the rest is history! ;) Jun 28 12:14:17 the tps or the customer? Jun 28 12:15:32 aholler, the customer was "special" so I think it was mostly them that brought joy to my week Jun 28 12:16:00 I meant the history ;) Jun 28 12:16:23 oh, haha...I was commenting about his "then I built a kernel..." Jun 28 12:17:40 his blog rant about the crappy am335x mainline support is history, at least Jun 28 12:18:04 Bah Jun 28 12:18:08 Still not working :/ Jun 28 12:18:10 :) Jun 28 12:18:20 I re-did the sd card and copied MLO first Jun 28 12:18:39 dxtr: out of curiosity, do you have a windows box handy? Jun 28 12:19:04 mdp: and it's actually working? :P Having code in mainline != stable/working code Jun 28 12:19:22 dm8tbr: What is this Windows you're speaking of? Jun 28 12:19:26 :) Jun 28 12:19:32 I only have access to Windows VMs Jun 28 12:19:54 ynezz, is what exactly working? Jun 28 12:21:09 ynezz, nobody said anything was better *now*. Jun 28 12:21:16 "14:17:37 < mdp> his blog rant about the crappy am335x mainline support is history, at least" Jun 28 12:22:01 I wrote a blog rant, it was in the past, thus it's "history" Jun 28 12:22:13 where's confusion? Jun 28 12:22:34 I've read that blog post in the past Jun 28 12:22:50 ynezz, wasn't it more fun to read that blog than to take history class in school? Jun 28 12:22:51 dxtr: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/pandaboard/ro5k5r4Cuq4 Jun 28 12:23:14 and I've udnerstood previous mdp's statement as that there's now better mainline support for bone Jun 28 12:23:19 almost complete :p Jun 28 12:23:31 nope Jun 28 12:23:33 ynezz, no Jun 28 12:23:35 my bad :) Jun 28 12:23:45 ynezz, in about 9 months, maybe there will be Jun 28 12:23:50 hehe Jun 28 12:24:00 if mdp gets act together :) Jun 28 12:24:19 * bradfa pokes TI in eye with sharp stick Jun 28 12:24:23 I might get rpi in 9 months :) Jun 28 12:24:27 I have a but an insignificant little piece Jun 28 12:25:12 ynezz, +24 months for rpi mainline ;) Jun 28 12:25:38 enjoy signing NDA for broadcomm, too Jun 28 12:25:45 'to get data sheet Jun 28 12:27:32 mdp, mail sent to list with results of power hunting Jun 28 12:27:36 thanks again! Jun 28 12:27:39 ok i'm lucky i only copy the pyusb from 2.6 to 2.7 and works correctly Jun 28 12:28:32 dm8tbr: I tried that tool. It is probably that wrong fat partition :) Jun 28 12:29:37 dxtr: ok, try fixing that then. :) Jun 28 12:30:17 hallo Jun 28 12:31:01 can anybody tell me is there need of external debugger for beagle board- xm Jun 28 12:32:21 no Jun 28 12:32:57 debugger Jun 28 12:33:17 for beagle board xm Jun 28 12:34:30 then how to debug the beagle board -xm Jun 28 12:35:01 hallo Jun 28 12:36:42 _what_ do you want to debug? Jun 28 12:38:31 bradfa, np..back to dma debugging :-/ Jun 28 12:45:16 how to debug linux on beagle board -xm Jun 28 12:45:19 dm8tbr: Maybe I will Jun 28 12:46:11 paggy: 12:36:42< dm8tbr> _what_ do you want to debug? Jun 28 12:46:21 dm8tbr, linux Jun 28 12:47:14 rrrright Jun 28 12:48:32 yes Jun 28 12:50:00 * panto wants to debug the universe Jun 28 12:50:05 lots of bugs there Jun 28 12:50:11 and critters Jun 28 12:50:19 I want do debug the whole saharah Jun 28 12:50:39 I want a beer, and it's only 4pm Jun 28 12:50:44 panto, debug your economy ;) Jun 28 12:50:51 that's unpossible :) Jun 28 12:50:56 * woglinde waves to av500 Jun 28 12:51:05 * av500 is noz able to wave Jun 28 12:51:08 not* Jun 28 12:51:11 lot of gpsd and debugging fun today again Jun 28 12:51:17 and its not frida Jun 28 12:51:17 y Jun 28 12:51:28 everybody should debug GPS Jun 28 12:51:30 its fun Jun 28 12:51:39 both in summer and winter Jun 28 12:51:47 when is OpenCV fun? Jun 28 12:52:04 fridays? Jun 28 12:52:09 mdp uhm where is opencv again? Jun 28 12:52:51 woglinde: no idea..nobody has even given me the first step for opencv yet Jun 28 12:53:01 lol Jun 28 12:53:04 exact first step? Jun 28 12:53:04 o.O Jun 28 12:53:11 come to india Jun 28 12:54:08 first steps are loeading the driver and getting the camera detected (through usb). Therefor we don't see opencv questions Jun 28 12:54:14 lol Jun 28 12:54:58 aholler btw. I now know why most usbcams have shitty framerate Jun 28 12:55:05 found it in the overo ml Jun 28 12:55:32 hi LetoThe2nd Jun 28 12:55:39 omap usb driver? Jun 28 12:55:53 usb sucks? Jun 28 12:55:56 ynezz no color conversion foo Jun 28 12:56:01 panto thats clear Jun 28 12:56:09 b&w ftw! Jun 28 12:56:34 panto, can PM usb fix? Jun 28 12:56:57 -EPARSE Jun 28 12:57:08 can has cheezburger? Jun 28 12:57:49 .o(some one should give mdp some usefull tasks) Jun 28 13:02:31 dm8tbr: Do the boot partition have to start somewhere specific? Jun 28 13:02:49 Because I managed to make it "pass" but it still isn't working Jun 28 13:12:06 dxtr h strange Jun 28 13:20:04 dxtr: I wouldn't change the partition start, only try adjusting the end Jun 28 13:22:54 dm8tbr: Right Jun 28 13:27:18 dm8tbr: Now I took the demo image and dd'ed it to my sdcard and recreated the filesystems on the partitions. That should work, right? Jun 28 13:27:51 ... it didn't :( Jun 28 13:28:44 dxtr: how are you powering the board? Jun 28 13:28:52 dm8tbr: usb Jun 28 13:29:01 try a proper power supply Jun 28 13:29:15 even though it should work over USB, a PSU is better Jun 28 13:30:01 Btw, what's the difference between 2012.05 and core-eglibc? I can't find any explanation Jun 28 13:31:24 dxtr o.O Jun 28 13:31:50 dxtr eglibc from oe-core gets updates Jun 28 13:32:10 where angstroem 2012.05 might be the one at this point Jun 28 13:32:14 dxtr: the leds light up though? Jun 28 13:32:19 dm8tbr: no Jun 28 13:32:27 Or, well, the PWR light does Jun 28 13:33:06 you did try an unmodified image? just dd to the card Jun 28 13:33:12 Yes Jun 28 13:33:16 That worked Jun 28 13:33:40 ok, so _what_ are you trying to boot there? Jun 28 13:33:48 I mean what does not work Jun 28 13:34:00 are you sure that's for the beagleBONE? Jun 28 13:38:55 dm8tbr: Yeah. But I tried to rebuild the image in the test narcissus advertised on Angstroms website... And it isn't installing angstrom-uboot-scripts :/ Jun 28 13:43:59 dm8tbr: I'm very definite it is for beaglebone, btw Jun 28 13:44:16 hrm Jun 28 13:44:36 dxtr: what is? Jun 28 13:44:41 dxtr why you need to rebuild the image? Jun 28 13:44:47 use the demo image Jun 28 13:44:51 and update via opkg Jun 28 13:45:08 Oh right Jun 28 13:45:19 http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/ ? Jun 28 13:45:39 bingo Jun 28 13:46:22 Can I like... Not have it with Gnome and Cloud9? :P Jun 28 13:53:53 o.O Jun 28 13:53:57 opkg remove Jun 28 13:59:19 rm /bin/opkg? Jun 28 14:01:42 wait what?:D Jun 28 14:01:58 dxtr - it's without gnome on the vanilla image, at least the one I receipt Jun 28 14:02:19 dxtr - to remove cloud9, you can use opkg, or you can generate your own image without cloud9 inclusions Jun 28 14:22:08 guyzmo: That's exactly what I tried to do but people told me not to :P Jun 28 14:22:54 dxtr who told you that= Jun 28 14:23:13 guyzmo he tried to make his own image and failed Jun 28 14:23:40 dxtr - well, I successfully rebuilt my own image for the first time only 2 days ago Jun 28 14:24:02 (well, 2 days ago was with a working custom kernel, 1 week ago for the whole FS) Jun 28 14:25:41 and I tried to do it on MacOSX but it did not work (fscking case insensitive filesystem), I tried in a VM but it neither did work (4GB is clearly not enough), I tried on a build machine but I worked on a buggy setup-tools tree Jun 28 14:25:52 and I let apart all the mistakes I've done to get it correctly Jun 28 14:26:19 dxtr - so my advice is, try and err, but keep trying again Jun 28 14:26:30 guyzmo: Not today. Going home soon \o Jun 28 14:27:00 dxtr - well, my only advice is to work on it twice a day Jun 28 14:27:15 on the morning and in the evening, because building all the packages can take several hours Jun 28 14:27:42 (that's what has been the most frustrating for me ;) ) Jun 28 14:28:06 guyzmo: Well I don't think my boss will appreciate it if I take the beaglebone home :P Jun 28 14:28:37 uhuh Jun 28 14:29:23 woglinde - wasn't you who told me you wrote the subpath thing for git+ssh in bitbake recipes a while ago, was it ? Jun 28 14:29:33 no Jun 28 14:30:06 guyzmo why didnt angstroem setup-scripts work for you? Jun 28 14:30:07 ok, my head's eeprom is failing Jun 28 14:30:32 and yes oe-core is still under heavy development Jun 28 14:31:06 woglinde - well, there I just pulled at the wrong time, and bitbake was failing on the image creation (which is now commented out) Jun 28 14:31:19 O.o Jun 28 14:31:22 and I had other recipes failing Jun 28 14:31:33 yes Jun 28 14:31:36 okay Jun 28 14:31:47 (I don't remember exactly what was wrong) Jun 28 14:32:00 I know most tricks Jun 28 14:32:01 (but now, I do it by hand using the mkcard script) Jun 28 14:32:07 be lucky not to go with uclibc Jun 28 14:32:16 ok :) Jun 28 14:32:25 whats make it a bit compliacted too Jun 28 14:32:30 we still fighting systemd Jun 28 14:32:37 with uclibc Jun 28 14:33:43 hi.. i have a problem.i cant boot-up sd card on beagleboard. my problem is : https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/beagleboard/5QRWB_DNQN4. Jun 28 14:33:44 I also had a problem with lighttpd that is not systemd ready (though in the recipe there's a service file...) Jun 28 14:33:59 can you help me? Jun 28 14:34:14 the crontab is still missing the run-parts stuff Jun 28 14:34:26 guyzmo thats only minor Jun 28 14:34:35 (though the comment about it is still there, and the cron.* are there) Jun 28 14:34:55 woglinde - yup, but how can I send a patch for that ? Jun 28 14:35:02 to oe-core ml? Jun 28 14:35:05 ok Jun 28 14:35:18 no ticket system ? Jun 28 14:35:40 it is the ticket system Jun 28 14:36:07 patches ending up in http://patches.openembedded.org/ Jun 28 14:36:12 aka patchwork Jun 28 14:36:58 woglinde - ah ok, shall I subscribe to the ML, or I can blindly send my patches to that address ? Jun 28 14:37:42 subscribe of course Jun 28 14:38:00 (I don't really want to bloat even more my mailbox :) ) Jun 28 14:38:09 is there a good player i can run on beagleboard for playing rtsp streams which also has recording capabilities? Jun 28 14:39:59 arcanescu - mplayer ? Jun 28 14:40:15 guyzmo: it doesnt have record :/ Jun 28 14:40:22 gstreamer? Jun 28 14:40:22 arcanescu - mencoder ? Jun 28 14:40:53 woglinde: gstreamer is a framework ? i tried to find some players built around it no recording at all Jun 28 14:41:14 arcanescu - mplayer can record streams afaict Jun 28 14:41:25 I don't see why it couldn't record rtsp streams Jun 28 14:41:47 guyzmo: i have it on my buntu machine if it cant on that im not sure if it would be able to on beagle.... there isnt any option Jun 28 14:42:30 arcanescu - http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mplayer+record+rtsp+stream Jun 28 14:42:56 if you're looking for a --record-to-file option, well you can be disappointed Jun 28 14:43:07 but I don't think you will find a player that does it that simply Jun 28 14:43:23 yes im looking for a record to file option really Jun 28 14:43:45 you have to put transcoding options, and video/audio output definition (i.e. to file) Jun 28 14:44:21 why does it need reencoding i dont get that bit it can just save it to a file split the stream one to a renderer and one to a file Jun 28 14:44:57 you can tell it to keep it as is Jun 28 14:45:05 arcanescu - RTFM ! Jun 28 14:45:22 I DID!!!! i even googled it but i really like that lmgtfy thing O-o Jun 28 14:45:26 hadnt seen it before Jun 28 14:45:53 no you did not read the manual correctly, or you weren't asking Jun 28 14:46:35 arcanescu - first link: mplayer -noframedrop -dumpfile out.rm -dumpstream rtsp://url/to/file.rm Jun 28 14:46:53 im running it from the interface and not the command like Jun 28 14:47:10 thats why i said it has no record button afaik Jun 28 14:47:31 vlc could work too Jun 28 14:47:43 ... Jun 28 14:47:49 you ask on beaglebone Jun 28 14:47:56 how can I assume you have a GUI ? Jun 28 14:48:11 if you use the GUI, vlc has a record button Jun 28 14:48:12 cap Jun 28 14:48:19 give me a cap hat Jun 28 14:48:22 with display Jun 28 14:49:03 i said beagleboard not bone :s Jun 28 14:49:08 ah Jun 28 14:49:10 misread :) Jun 28 14:49:12 my fault then Jun 28 14:50:06 (: i forgive you Jun 28 14:50:27 arcanescu build your own player with recording caps Jun 28 14:50:34 with python it is under 100 lines Jun 28 14:51:28 woglinde: im looking for that Jun 28 14:51:40 woglinde: do you have an example for a starting point? Jun 28 14:52:03 google gst python Jun 28 14:52:09 and you will find plenty Jun 28 14:52:41 woglinde: will do thanks Jun 28 15:07:01 woglinde: close enough - I downloaded kernels 2.6.32 and 3.0 from website you gave me. In 2.6, ipv6 is not working proprly, in 3.0, sound is now working at all xD Jun 28 15:13:19 aleek try opkg update Jun 28 15:13:33 opkg list | grep linux Jun 28 15:14:13 well, first question on beagleboard ML Jun 28 15:14:15 aleek o.O, so all is working now Jun 28 15:15:53 woglinde: I have newest buildroot rootfs. Ive taken kernel and modules from the image, because the original one doesnt have header files and required apps Jun 28 15:16:14 but this seems to be kernel related problem Jun 28 15:17:20 aleek forget buildroot and use openembedded Jun 28 15:24:32 btw, anyone knows if it is possible not to include the whole usb mounting/networking thing in bitbakes rebuilds ? Jun 28 15:27:09 guyzmo no Jun 28 15:27:23 someone else ? :) Jun 28 15:27:28 if you change a dep all packages will be rebuild depending on it Jun 28 15:27:28 (or it is not possible ?) Jun 28 15:27:34 and thats for good Jun 28 15:27:48 of course, that's why I have a build server Jun 28 15:28:11 I already throwed the cloud9/bone101 away Jun 28 15:48:53 Please wait while we transfer your code to the new Cloud9 IDE---waited forever Jun 28 15:49:29 very bad OOB UX Jun 28 15:51:56 xxiao *g* Jun 28 15:54:17 xxiao: what prompted this message? Jun 28 15:54:19 * stuk_gen kick connman Jun 28 15:55:08 jkridner: trying to use cloud9 new ide, after login it i can never get hold of my workspace Jun 28 15:55:48 beaglebone's c9 worked fine in the past though Jun 28 15:56:20 how did you update it? Jun 28 15:58:37 he put JellyBean on it from xda phorum Jun 28 15:58:52 * xxiao is trying to get this working Jun 28 15:59:42 it's stuck at c9.io now Jun 28 16:00:12 JB platform code won't be out until late July Jun 28 16:06:07 av500: ah so you are the expert. please provide exact steps how to port jellybean to beagleboard c4! ;-รพ Jun 28 16:07:16 dm8tbr repo sync Jun 28 16:07:22 +1 Jun 28 16:07:29 ;) Jun 28 16:08:05 the xda way would be: can't do, bbc4 doesn't have CWM! Jun 28 16:08:24 port it Jun 28 16:09:00 hm whats CWM? Jun 28 16:09:05 clockworkmod Jun 28 16:09:11 their holy 'bootloader' Jun 28 16:09:16 o.O Jun 28 16:09:28 nvflash Jun 28 16:09:32 needs no cwm Jun 28 16:10:18 woglinde: nono, you no understand. u must port CWM fr1st. no andrhoidz without CWM. *snicker* Jun 28 16:13:28 dm8tbr uhm Jun 28 16:13:42 dm8tbr you might bee in sucker devisions of xda Jun 28 16:14:28 I never read this Jun 28 16:16:31 woglinde: I only looked a couple of times, but they seem to love 'repackaging' and 'binary patching' stuff... and if it doesn't have CWM, they don't like to touch the hardware Jun 28 16:17:11 and their disregard for the GPL makes me puke Jun 28 16:17:33 dm8tbr not all are this way Jun 28 16:19:39 woglinde: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1717961 Jun 28 16:19:44 read the line in RED at the bottom Jun 28 16:26:33 av500, it's just a product of the type of open source community Google has promoted. Jun 28 16:27:06 no, it's a product of them living on a ph0rum Jun 28 16:28:46 av500, much worse happens in the acer a500 rom community too..such as a binary only modified CWM kernel. Jun 28 16:29:38 mru, hehe Jun 28 17:04:38 hi Jun 28 17:05:33 anyone tried websocketserver with the beaglebone? Jun 28 17:05:53 i can't connect to mine Jun 28 17:05:55 only local Jun 28 17:06:03 eier websocksetserver would even run on my android phone Jun 28 17:06:23 yeah, but i can't connect from another machine Jun 28 17:06:31 iptables doesn't work Jun 28 17:09:42 fix your networksetup Jun 28 17:10:03 try ping first Jun 28 17:10:37 second flush all tables with iptables Jun 28 17:11:02 i get this when i try iptables Jun 28 17:11:04 iptables v1.4.12.2: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?) Jun 28 17:11:20 the other servers are running fine Jun 28 17:11:25 22, 80, 3000 Jun 28 17:16:28 so its a problem with wbesocketserver at all Jun 28 17:16:30 try lsof Jun 28 17:16:34 lsof -i Jun 28 17:16:36 or netstat Jun 28 17:16:39 if it is running Jun 28 17:16:45 on the port you wanted Jun 28 17:20:20 tcp 0 0 localhost.localdomain:8000 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN Jun 28 17:20:52 okay Jun 28 17:21:04 go to /etc Jun 28 17:21:11 and grep -r 3000 Jun 28 17:21:21 grep -r 3000 * Jun 28 17:22:17 'What am i looking for? Jun 28 17:22:24 than add 8000 to the right file with 3000 Jun 28 17:22:36 you said you can access port 3000 Jun 28 17:22:54 yes, but cloud9 is running on 3000 Jun 28 17:23:55 I didnt say you should run websocketserver on port 3000 Jun 28 17:24:21 I showed you a way to set the same iptables rule for port 3000 for port 8000 Jun 28 17:25:07 as he hasn't the needed modules he don't has a firewall Jun 28 17:25:44 hmm Jun 28 17:27:10 i will try updating Jun 28 17:28:51 aholler you have a nice crystall ball Jun 28 17:29:36 ya Jun 28 17:46:07 woglinde: no crystal needed Jun 28 17:47:46 he already had posted that iptables doesn't work Jun 28 17:48:33 aholler but you didnt saw his iptable call Jun 28 17:49:19 but I know the table filter Jun 28 17:49:52 and without a filter there is obviously no firewall ;) Jun 28 17:51:19 hmm, any idea why i cant connect ? Jun 28 17:51:27 i can connect from the beaglebone Jun 28 17:54:34 it's hard to connect from remote to localhost Jun 28 17:55:22 i'm using the ip of the beaglebone Jun 28 17:56:20 netstat seems to think something else, but I don't know how localhost.localdomain is defined on your beaglebone Jun 28 17:57:30 args yes Jun 28 17:57:31 sorry Jun 28 17:57:37 read the line wrong Jun 28 17:57:41 its only running localhost Jun 28 20:55:48 Hi! I'm running Angstrom with latest opkg upgrade on a Beaglebone A5 and running problems using tcpdump. "tcpdump" errors: tcpdump: Can't open netlink socket 93:Protocol not supported. I've downloaded and upgraded everything I could think of and searched google. Someone mentioned fixing it by downgrading libcap and gave a proper libcap version number but isn't that unrelated? Perhaps he was thinking libpcap but the version number was improp Jun 28 20:55:48 er that he mentioned. Regardless, I'm trying to get tcpdump running, any ideas? Jun 28 21:02:16 DJohnsonCA: probably netlink is missing either as a module or in the kernel Jun 28 21:02:29 or there's a bug in libpcap Jun 28 21:02:50 hm yeah check the kernel config first Jun 28 21:03:04 yep.. if kernel/module are ok, try a downgrade Jun 28 21:03:25 DJohnsonCA what does uname -a saying? Jun 28 21:20:05 uname -a gives: Linux beaglebone 3.2.5+ #1 Mon Feb 13 19:22:44 CET 2012 armv7l GNU/Linux Jun 28 21:21:08 I believe I have netlink. Looking into it missing in the kernel. Not used to this stuff so I'm looking it up. :-) Jun 28 21:25:27 opkg list | grep kernel-module Jun 28 21:32:38 woglinde: What am I looking for in the opkg list? Jun 28 21:33:28 something with netlink Jun 28 21:34:46 hm no Jun 28 21:36:56 No netlink. Jun 28 21:37:10 hm CONFIG_PACKET I think is it Jun 28 21:48:04 mmm a cool 108 degrees again Jun 28 21:48:07 F Jun 28 21:50:02 heh yeah well i don't think 108C is possible Jun 28 21:50:30 it is head your oven Jun 28 21:50:53 yeah, I knew you are a smart bunch but being we are worldwide and all i threw that in.. Jun 28 21:51:27 ups heat Jun 28 21:51:29 dman Jun 28 21:51:58 if you are worldwide you have been metric Jun 28 21:52:07 +would Jun 28 21:53:25 ups heat Jun 28 21:53:40 ok, the red stuff in the glass thermometer is 108mm high from the bulb ;) Jun 29 00:55:24 I have get a beaglebone (AM3359 Rev.A5 S/N:051288000622) a month before. And test the usb (gadget) transfers speed : (IN)board to PC host: 17MBytes/s (OUT)board from PC host:13.4MBytes/s. (And the speed is lower than some ARM11 core chip,such as s3c6410, IN and OUT speed up to 20MBytes/s) I want to know what's best usb speed of AM3359? And whether the hub SMSC USB2412 will limit the usb speed of AM3359? I hope your help. Jun 29 01:26:35 I have get a beaglebone (AM3359 Rev.A5 S/N:051288000622) a month before. And test the usb (gadget) transfers speed : (IN)board to PC host: 17MBytes/s (OUT)board from PC host:13.4MBytes/s. (And the speed is lower than some ARM11 core chip,such as s3c6410, IN and OUT speed up to 20MBytes/s) I want to know what's best usb speed of AM3359? And whether the hub SMSC USB2412 will limit the usb speed of AM3359? I hope your help. Jun 29 01:36:41 * Russ notices that cake vodka is awesome Jun 29 01:37:48 Russ: vodka o clock? Jun 29 01:40:12 i got some of that too, heh Jun 29 01:40:13 what the hell Jun 29 01:40:32 i just take it around at work and demand that people "Smell this!" **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jun 29 02:59:58 2012