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Jul 07 03:02:55 <spacekitteh> can the beaglebone use SDHC cards?
Jul 07 03:16:04 <W1N9Zr0> yes
Jul 07 03:18:02 <spacekitteh> sweet
Jul 07 04:18:20 <Riastradh> I have a new BeagleBone, and I'm trying to talk with it.  I connected the mini-USB port to my laptop running NetBSD and pointed cu at both ports of the USB FTDI device with `cu -l /dev/ttyU0' and ttyU0, with and without `--speed 115200', and although cu says `Connected', it doesn't give any of the sort of serial console output I expect.
Jul 07 04:19:04 <Riastradh> On the ethernet interface I saw a single DHCP request, but after I unplugged it and plugged it back in again, it hasn't sent any more requests.
Jul 07 04:20:51 <Riastradh> How do I get at the serial console?  I glanced around at <http://beagleboard.org/bone> and didn't see anything obvious about it.
Jul 07 04:23:52 <Riastradh> Ah, there we go.  Hitting return a few times as suggested by <http://ladyada.net/products/beaglebone/ethernet.html> made it...well, start to print something: `U-Boo'.
Jul 07 05:17:44 <Tamilarasi> Hi all i am trying to install linux  kernel version 3.4.4 on TI AM3359 beaglebone while compiling the kernel i am getting error like "  "mkimage" command not found - U-Boot images will not be built" how to solve this and which u-boot version would be best this kernel.
Jul 07 05:24:52 <Tamilarasi> solution pls.........
Jul 07 05:25:46 <ds2> RTFM
Jul 07 05:28:50 <Tamilarasi>  Hi all i am trying to install linux  kernel version 3.4.4 on TI AM3359 beaglebone while compiling the kernel i am getting error like "  "mkimage" command not found - U-Boot images will not be built" how to solve this and which u-boot version would be best this kernel.
Jul 07 05:28:58 <Tamilarasi> solution pls...........
Jul 07 05:37:36 <koen> there is no am335x support in 3.4.4
Jul 07 05:38:31 <ds2> just merge in support
Jul 07 05:38:39 <ds2> nothing a little git wizardy can't fix
Jul 07 06:42:06 <Guest21186> hi guys, how can i connect beaglebone to a windows pc through an ethernet cable? without using a router
Jul 07 06:51:02 <dm8tbr> Guest21186: e.g. by manually configuring IP addresses on both the bone and the windows pc. (note: some eithernet cards will also require a crossover ethernet cable)
Jul 07 07:08:34 <Guest21186> thanks dm8tbr. i manually configured the ip netmask and gw, it is working now
Jul 07 07:08:46 <dm8tbr> great
Jul 07 09:24:31 <Tamilarasi> hi how to download arago toolchain in beaglebone am3359
Jul 07 09:24:42 <Tamilarasi> hi how to download arago toolchain for beaglebone am3359
Jul 07 09:33:42 <Tamilarasi> solution pls...
Jul 07 09:34:42 <Tamilarasi> i am seaching for long time unable to get exact path pls give me  solution for arago toolchain
Jul 07 09:35:14 <Tamilarasi> give me path to download...
Jul 07 09:56:07 <derRichard> hi
Jul 07 10:23:27 <derRichard> is the beagleboard xm (rev b) able to boot from nand? (without any sdcard)
Jul 07 10:31:57 <bobsickle> Riastradh: the symptoms you describe suggest power issues - either a noisy power supply, or insufficient power (maybe due to extra connected stuff, or a dodgy usb port). Try a different power supply maybe?
Jul 07 10:33:56 <aholler> derRichard: yes, if you have a board with nand
Jul 07 10:34:19 <derRichard> aholler: it seems to have 256mib nand
Jul 07 10:35:04 <bobsickle> ^_-
Jul 07 10:35:20 <aholler> just u-boot.spl, u-boot.bin and maybe kernel and rootfs into nand.
Jul 07 10:35:56 <bobsickle> I didn't think the xm had nand
Jul 07 10:36:21 <bobsickle> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeagleBoard#BeagleBoard-xM
Jul 07 10:36:29 <aholler> ah, xm, haven't read that. the xm doesn't have nand
Jul 07 10:36:59 <aholler> just some early xm have
Jul 07 10:37:05 <bobsickle> yeah putting the bb and bbxm on the same wikipedia page is really annoying and throws a lot of people off
Jul 07 10:37:13 <derRichard> aholler: rev b seem to be early
Jul 07 10:37:42 <aholler> load uö-boot and test it with nand erase
Jul 07 10:38:52 <derRichard> and what about this MLO or xloader thing?
Jul 07 10:39:20 <aholler> x-loader is now called u-boot.spl
Jul 07 10:39:26 <derRichard> fun
Jul 07 10:39:32 <aholler> you can put that into nand
Jul 07 10:39:36 <aholler> (too)
Jul 07 10:40:07 <derRichard> uboot (from the sdcards) reports the following mtdparts:
Jul 07 10:40:08 <derRichard> mtdparts: mtdparts=nand:512k(x-loader),1920k(u-boot),128k(u-boot-env),4m(kernel),-(fs)
Jul 07 10:40:18 <derRichard> uboot.spl goes into x-loader
Jul 07 10:40:31 <derRichard> and uboot.bin into u-boot, correct?
Jul 07 10:40:40 <aholler> yes
Jul 07 10:40:52 <bobsickle> derRichard: https://github.com/nguillaumin/beagle-carputer/wiki/system-BeagleBoot
Jul 07 10:41:05 <bobsickle> also, https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/beagleboard/_V4g0ZNIfxE
Jul 07 10:41:20 <bobsickle> l2 google
Jul 07 10:44:39 <derRichard> bobsickle: thx. so no nand boot for me :-\
Jul 07 10:47:54 <bobsickle> yeah sorry to rain on your party there
Jul 07 10:48:34 <derRichard> this is really sad. having the rootfs on an sdcard kinda sucks
Jul 07 10:49:15 <aholler> usually one should read the specs before buying a board
Jul 07 10:52:33 <derRichard> aholler: hehe. i havn't bought. i'm evaluating one which i got for free
Jul 07 10:52:43 <derRichard> +it
Jul 07 10:53:54 <derRichard> so far the board failed the exam ;-)
Jul 07 11:04:43 <dm8tbr> derRichard: you'd be surprised how many problems people had with the boards that had NAND. Most by failing to understand the concepts...
Jul 07 11:05:21 <derRichard> i know nand very well
Jul 07 11:06:11 <bobsickle> it's seems a little silly to be examining features of a board which the documentation states it does not have
Jul 07 11:06:11 <derRichard> and yes, i can understand why you push booting from sdcard
Jul 07 11:06:22 <bobsickle> because it's sane?
Jul 07 11:07:00 <dm8tbr> btw: the board should have a second SDIO exposed on the headers, so you can have a second card attached
Jul 07 11:09:52 <derRichard> bobsickle: the board here has nand. that's why i thought booting from nand may work. i know already that only a few beagleboards have nand
Jul 07 11:10:35 <aholler> if it has nand, try nand erase
Jul 07 11:10:41 <aholler> or saveenv
Jul 07 11:10:57 <derRichard> works fine
Jul 07 11:11:11 <aholler> then check the sysboot-pins
Jul 07 11:11:24 <aholler> I don't know how they are set on the xm
Jul 07 11:11:36 <derRichard> let me see :)
Jul 07 11:12:00 <aholler> if you ask me in 8h, I can give you a patch which shows them
Jul 07 11:12:22 <derRichard> why a patch?
Jul 07 11:12:25 <derRichard> a kernel patch?
Jul 07 11:14:45 <derRichard> dm8tbr: i want to use nand instand of the sdcard because on nand i can use ubi which does sane wear leveling. the sdcard may die after some time. the wear leveling of some sdcards is very very bad and you never know
Jul 07 11:16:03 <dm8tbr> derRichard: roger that. then sysboot is your prime choice. if that doesn't work, uboot on sd card, rest on nand.
Jul 07 11:17:44 <aholler> derRichard: yes, a kernel-patch, it shows the register in dmesg.
Jul 07 11:18:59 <derRichard> dm8tbr: yep. that's an option. not nice but better than nothing :)
Jul 07 11:20:41 <derRichard> aholler: you can also tell me where i can find the registers in memory. i can do my own patch
Jul 07 11:23:20 <aholler> just read the trm
Jul 07 11:23:50 <aholler> search for sysboot
Jul 07 11:23:54 <derRichard> okay, thx!
Jul 07 11:25:42 <aholler> I've killed my bb again, trying kernel 3.4.x, and I can't reset it from remote, therefor the I currently have access to the patch ;)
Jul 07 11:27:01 <derRichard> aholler: 3.4 mainline or some magic ti branch?
Jul 07 11:28:56 <aholler> mainline
Jul 07 11:31:02 <aholler> they broke it completly in 3.3 and there are just to many patches (and som e stuff doesn't even compile) so searching the error(s) or a git bisect isn't doable in a reasonable time
Jul 07 11:31:43 <derRichard> omap is always fun :)
Jul 07 11:31:49 <aholler> so I just try from time to time if mainline works again
Jul 07 11:32:27 <aholler> espcecially if there is a team working against you
Jul 07 11:33:00 <derRichard> so you are on the ti side? ;)
Jul 07 11:36:47 <aholler> what makes you believe that?
Jul 07 11:37:32 <aholler> I usually test my patches, so I wouldn't fit there ;)
Jul 07 11:38:07 <derRichard> hehe
Jul 07 11:40:10 <derRichard> i thougt you work for ti
Jul 07 11:45:22 <Tamilarasi> hi how to download arago toolchain for beaglebone am3359
Jul 07 11:46:05 <Tamilarasi> pls give me weblink to download arago toolchain
Jul 07 12:19:58 <jet> I downloaded this img : http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/ubuntu-12.04-preinstalled-server-armhf+omap.img.gz uncompressed it, copied it onto my sd card using dd, and my beagle bone doesn't seem to boot… did I make a mistake on the image?
Jul 07 12:21:25 <derRichard> please define "doesn't seem to boot…"
Jul 07 12:21:30 <jet> yes sorry
Jul 07 12:21:47 <jet> it doesn't respond to the ping, and ssh doesn't work
Jul 07 12:22:00 <jet> (I have a dhcp server that gives a fix ip address)
Jul 07 12:22:01 <angs> ssh is not installed by default
Jul 07 12:22:02 <derRichard> erm, and why happens on the uart?
Jul 07 12:22:26 <jet> but when I plug it to my mac, I have those 2 tty : tty.usbserial-TIVHA2FOA and tty.usbserial-TIVHA2FOB
Jul 07 12:22:47 <jet> but screen does nothing : I have a blank screen
Jul 07 12:23:05 <jet> what is uart?
Jul 07 12:23:14 <derRichard> serial console
Jul 07 12:23:43 <jet> I just have a usb cable
Jul 07 12:24:46 <jet> maybe I should try with the desktop version?
Jul 07 12:25:41 <jet> when I plug the ethernet cable, my mac doesn't react. Like there are no physical devices on the other end of the cable...
Jul 07 12:26:01 <angs> jet: are you using beaglebone?
Jul 07 12:26:05 <jet> yes
Jul 07 12:26:20 <angs> as I know, the image you are trying to install is for beagleboard
Jul 07 12:26:59 <angs> there is image on http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu for beaglebone, but it is not the official ubuntu image
Jul 07 12:27:14 <jet> ah yes ! I made the mistake...
Jul 07 12:27:15 <jet> thanks
Jul 07 12:29:05 <angs> your welcome
Jul 07 13:46:39 <jet> angs thanks, it works
Jul 07 13:47:33 <angs> good to hear that
Jul 07 15:50:23 <Riastradh> bobsickle, hmm, I've tried two different machines' USB ports.  I don't have a separate power cable.  I'll try a third machine running a different OS.
Jul 07 15:50:47 <Riastradh> I don't have any other USB devices attached to any of these machines.
Jul 07 15:52:29 <bobsickle> I don't know netbsd at all - have you used cu before for other serial comms?
Jul 07 15:55:34 <bobsickle> "U-Boot" is on the 5th line output at boot, which I suspect is what you're seeing
Jul 07 15:55:53 <bobsickle> so I think you had it hooked up correctly and the program working
Jul 07 15:56:18 <bobsickle> which leaves either a dodgy serial or power connector and/or power issues
Jul 07 15:56:27 <bobsickle> dunno how to help beyond that
Jul 07 15:57:04 <bobsickle> if you can get picocom on netbsd I highly recommend it
Jul 07 15:57:56 <derRichard> picocom, srsly?
Jul 07 15:58:25 <bobsickle> for basic serial, it's the bomb
Jul 07 15:58:40 <bobsickle> minicom just gets in my way I find
Jul 07 15:58:40 <Riastradh> What's the name of the USB serial device node in Mac OS X?
Jul 07 15:58:42 <jet> I'm trying to install gcc on my beagle bone with ubuntu. I used apt-get install gcc. But it can't find linux-libc-dev armhf (404 not found) http://privatepaste.com/95c7e04b9f
Jul 07 15:58:56 <jet> is there a way to compile something?
Jul 07 15:59:45 <bobsickle> if you're compiling on a beaglebone, you're Doing it Wrong (TM)
Jul 07 16:00:09 <jet> I can't compile a simple cpp file on a beaglebone?
Jul 07 16:00:19 <derRichard> sure you can
Jul 07 16:00:28 <jet> how can I?
Jul 07 16:00:35 <derRichard> install the toolchain
Jul 07 16:00:41 <derRichard> gcc, binutils, libc, etc...
Jul 07 16:00:49 <derRichard> depens on your distro
Jul 07 16:00:55 <bobsickle> yeah I guess you can do small stuff, but don't expect it to compile a kernel at any decent speed
Jul 07 16:01:03 <derRichard> true
Jul 07 16:01:32 <jet> but "apt-get install gcc" is not supposed to install the toolchain?
Jul 07 16:01:38 <bobsickle> derRichard: what do you use for serial comms?
Jul 07 16:01:44 <derRichard> minicom
Jul 07 16:01:53 <derRichard> jet: it will install gcc
Jul 07 16:02:07 <derRichard> jet: apt-get install build-essential
Jul 07 16:02:14 <derRichard> (i hope ubuntu works like debian :P)
Jul 07 16:02:16 <jet> but I have an error with that command : linux-libc-dev armhf 3.2.0-24.39 404 not found
Jul 07 16:02:42 <derRichard> maybe you're hitting a bad mirror
Jul 07 16:02:50 <jet> Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/main/l/linux/linux-libc-dev_3.2.0-24.39_armhf.deb  404  Not Found
Jul 07 16:02:51 <derRichard> try apt-get update
Jul 07 16:02:52 <bobsickle> derRichard: see, minicom was designed for modems, and unless you mangle your configs it sends a heap of jibberish to your device every time you connect
Jul 07 16:03:20 <derRichard> bobsickle: so what? you can configure it. have you ever looked at the picocom source?
Jul 07 16:03:29 <derRichard> screen works too
Jul 07 16:03:32 <bobsickle> nope, haven't needed to
Jul 07 16:04:55 <derRichard> the problem is that tty is damn broken and complicated. minicom know all (or most) of the strange corner cases and does the right thing
Jul 07 16:05:16 <derRichard> picocom is a 100 loc hello-world-style terminal emulater ;)
Jul 07 16:05:48 <bobsickle> did I mention that it Just Works (TM) for most peoples needs?
Jul 07 16:06:03 <jet> derRichard: I thought I did apt-get update… but I guess not, since it's woking now
Jul 07 16:06:04 <derRichard> ...until it explodes/locks up
Jul 07 16:06:06 <jet> thanks !
Jul 07 16:06:26 <bobsickle> derRichard: I'll be sure to let you know if ever that happens :P
Jul 07 16:06:29 <derRichard> anyway, everyone can use what every he wants
Jul 07 16:12:11 <Riastradh> Also, I notice that this BeagleBoard gets very warm very quickly.
Jul 07 16:13:18 <aholler> derRichard: http://dpaste.com/768284/
Jul 07 16:14:11 <jet> is it possible to know the cpu temperature?
Jul 07 16:15:51 <Riastradh> BeagleBone, rather.
Jul 07 16:15:56 <derRichard> aholler: thx
Jul 07 18:29:48 <tadli> I'm looking for BSP Support windows embedded compact 7 with wifi
Jul 07 23:39:20 <xabra> In Cloud9 IDE on the I am getting lots of debug messages like the following:          "debug - websocket writing 5:::{"name":"state_changed..."  These, I believe, are written to the console by socket.io every time I send a message.  All the data in the message is included.  Its slowing my code down. Is there some way I can turn these off - such as a command line parameter under "Run Configurations", for example?
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