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Sep 04 03:00:14 <_av500_> arf
Sep 04 03:17:31 <ka6sox> meow
Sep 04 04:39:26 <mranostay> av500: hey artsy engineer :)
Sep 04 04:55:04 <dm8tbr> mooo
Sep 04 05:23:29 <mranostay> well if is it isn't the freaks
Sep 04 05:27:55 <Russ> mranostay, I didn't think I was that notable
Sep 04 06:17:50 <_av500_> hey mranostay
Sep 04 06:29:00 <ka6sox> mranostay, you are a part of this show....
Sep 04 07:31:43 <thweber> is dss2 supporting de-mode and sync-mode? how can i switch between the modes?
Sep 04 08:08:04 <mru> môin
Sep 04 08:52:18 <beyond_> usb and ethernet ports not working
Sep 04 08:52:24 <beyond_> need help
Sep 04 08:55:49 <LetoThe2nd> 10:38 < LetoThe2nd> beyond_: smart questions, anyone read?
Sep 04 08:55:49 <LetoThe2nd> 10:39 < LetoThe2nd> beyond_: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Sep 04 08:58:02 <beyond_> @letoThe@nd I dont get how to ask more smartl question when I am telling you that my beagleboard's ethernet ports and usb are not working
Sep 04 08:58:41 <beyond_> I mean what to tell more.. ports are not working...tried with quite a few images of ubuntu and angstrom
Sep 04 09:01:30 <LetoThe2nd> beyond_: not working as 1) not recognized by the kernel? 2) just not transmitting anything? 3) problems with ip configuration?
Sep 04 09:01:49 <LetoThe2nd> beyond_: what does ipconfig say? put it in a pastebin, for example.
Sep 04 09:02:25 <LetoThe2nd> beyond_: "does not work" is just the most useless error description ever.
Sep 04 09:03:07 <ogra_> what did you try already, did you check the logs etc etc
Sep 04 09:03:38 <LetoThe2nd> beyond_: plus, you could be considerably more precise. *which* beagleboard specifically you are using, and *which* ubuntu/angstrom releases you have tested. plus, what ogra_ just said.
Sep 04 09:03:40 <ogra_> "doesnt work" is simply not a helpful way of asking people for help
Sep 04 09:03:51 <beyond_> yeah, sorry for that
Sep 04 09:04:08 <beyond_> I am using beagleboard xm C1
Sep 04 09:04:41 <beyond_> actually it is not recognised by the kernel, nothing is coming in dmesg
Sep 04 09:04:59 <beyond_> when i issue ifconig command it doesn't show the eth0 interface
Sep 04 09:05:06 <LetoThe2nd> beyond_: please put a complete boot log into a pastebin.
Sep 04 09:05:29 <beyond_> yeah sure..please just wait a moment
Sep 04 09:05:47 <LetoThe2nd> beyond_: 1) is the board known good, e.g. have those interfaces ever worked? 2) are you running stock software, without tinkering?
Sep 04 09:07:28 <beyond_> yes, the board was working fine till yesterday, I was actually installing opencv on it and had installed quiet a few things from the repositories
Sep 04 09:07:59 <beyond_> then all of a sudden some error - 71 ehci appeared continously and I have to reboot the Beagleboard
Sep 04 09:08:11 <beyond_> from then onwards USB and ethernet are not working
Sep 04 09:09:07 <ogra_> whats the OS you are using, where di you get the image from
Sep 04 09:09:11 <ogra_> *did
Sep 04 09:09:56 <beyond_> I have tried with many a images since yesterday ex- the demo image from beagleboard ubuntu, the default angstrom image and fedora image
Sep 04 09:10:52 <ogra_> was that the official ubuntu image (from cdimage.ubuntu.com) or some home rolled community image thing ?
Sep 04 09:12:08 <beyond_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAP from this page I downloaded it
Sep 04 09:12:25 <ogra_> k
Sep 04 09:12:53 <ogra_> which release did you use ?
Sep 04 09:13:38 <beyond_> 11.10
Sep 04 09:14:11 <beyond_> I need to ask something..I know it is pretty silly but...I am sort of naive...please bear a little
Sep 04 09:14:29 <ogra_> i think that predates the beagle XM rev C
Sep 04 09:14:56 <ogra_> you should try 12.04 instead, its very likely that 11.10 doesnt have all kernel support the board needs
Sep 04 09:16:02 <beyond_> but it was working good before yesterday,,, I installed quite a few programs like cmake,xfce gui etc etc
Sep 04 09:16:38 <beyond_> and moreover from then onwards even in the default Angstrom image  the usb and the ethernet are not working
Sep 04 09:16:48 <beyond_> even the led in ethernet port is not glowing up
Sep 04 09:17:41 * LetoThe2nd still would guess that the boot log might know something.
Sep 04 09:17:54 <LetoThe2nd> anyways, have you tried a different sd card?
Sep 04 09:20:18 <beyond_> nops,
Sep 04 09:20:21 <beyond_> just trying for it
Sep 04 09:20:32 <beyond_> but do you thinkg that it can be the cause?
Sep 04 09:24:36 <LetoThe2nd> it *can*, but it not necessarily has to be.
Sep 04 09:24:49 <beyond_> folowing is the ouput at serial :
Sep 04 09:25:02 <beyond_> http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=afa468e
Sep 04 09:25:15 <beyond_> http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=26f7d70
Sep 04 09:25:19 <LetoThe2nd> meh.
Sep 04 09:25:38 <LetoThe2nd> stop screenshotting, i repeatebly told you to use a pastebin.
Sep 04 09:26:07 <beyond_> but I am not able to copy the Text from the putty terminal !!
Sep 04 09:26:16 <beyond_> is there any other way
Sep 04 09:26:22 <beyond_> ?
Sep 04 09:26:29 <LetoThe2nd> beyond_: then google "putty copy paste" and find out how to do so.
Sep 04 09:34:13 <beyond_> apologies for this sort of behaviour,
Sep 04 09:34:20 <beyond_> here goes the log on pastebin
Sep 04 09:34:21 <beyond_> http://pastebin.com/fegFZkW7
Sep 04 09:35:34 <ogra_> well, try 12.04 or 12.10 and see if either of them works better (note that with 12.10 the install process changed)
Sep 04 09:35:52 <ogra_> they have newer bootloaders and newer kernels
Sep 04 09:37:23 <beyond_> yeah, very sure, what makes me tensed is that lets assume that ubuntu has got some trouble but Angstrom and Fedora images are having that same troubel too!!
Sep 04 09:38:22 <ogra_> they probably use the same old bootloaders that are used in 11.10, who knows ...
Sep 04 09:38:50 <LetoThe2nd> not sure that its bootloder related though. i personally would like a boot log of angstrom for comparison.
Sep 04 09:39:01 <ogra_> you cut off the bootloader info in your paste ...
Sep 04 09:41:08 <beyond_> just wait for a few minutes, I will give ya the Angstrom's log too
Sep 04 09:41:36 <ogra_> LetoThe2nd, "No ethernet found." from u-boot pretty much points to bootloader i think
Sep 04 09:42:08 <ogra_> (but as i said, sadly all bootloader info is cut off from the paste)
Sep 04 09:42:09 <LetoThe2nd> ogra_: must've overread that. mea culpa.
Sep 04 09:47:33 <beyond_> is ther any sort of onboard bootloader?
Sep 04 09:47:59 <beyond_> because it this is problem with three images I tried, so I amjust guessing it..
Sep 04 09:48:53 <beyond_> what say boss
Sep 04 09:49:37 <ogra_> not with regard to USB ... there is ROM code on the board that loads MLO
Sep 04 09:51:08 <beyond_> pointing to "even the led on the ethernet port is glowing up".....does it make any sense that the ethernet is not even initiallised by the most lower level code?
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Sep 04 10:13:31 <beyond_> here is the log with default Angstrom distribution ::http://pastebin.com/CmMEUVCP
Sep 04 10:14:07 <LetoThe2nd> thats not a boot log, thats a dmesg
Sep 04 10:15:07 <LetoThe2nd> making the same mistake again that ogra_ just told some minutes ago.
Sep 04 10:15:15 <LetoThe2nd> one cannot see the bootloaders output.
Sep 04 10:17:51 <beyond_> my default angstrom image doesn't give the booting log with startup
Sep 04 10:18:02 <beyond_> it quietly says booting the kernel and give no output to screen
Sep 04 10:18:33 <beyond_> thats why i used the dmesg bcz. AFAIK it is the same thing but not just with the verbose ouput... am i right?
Sep 04 10:18:58 <ogra_> that would be a gross hack to the bootloader if it didnt print its info
Sep 04 10:19:03 <ogra_> i doubt thats true
Sep 04 10:19:27 <ogra_> please try again, we need the first 50 lines of the terminal output
Sep 04 10:21:42 <beyond_> i can really show you the screenshot that it simply shows very little output
Sep 04 10:21:44 <beyond_> http://pastebin.com/xiNUxNGE
Sep 04 10:21:46 <beyond_> this is all I got
Sep 04 10:23:08 <ogra_> thats exactly what i meant :)
Sep 04 10:23:39 <ogra_> U-Boot SPL 2011.12-00006-gb1fd369 (Dec 30 2011 - 09:48:45)
Sep 04 10:23:47 <ogra_> and U-Boot 2011.12-00006-gb1fd369 (Dec 30 2011 - 09:48:45)
Sep 04 10:24:01 <ogra_> thats quite old
Sep 04 10:24:12 <beyond_> Okay, so sir what should I do now
Sep 04 10:24:18 <beyond_> but morevoer it was working till yesterday
Sep 04 10:24:56 <beyond_> I was tried gnome and xfce and quite other  lot programs
Sep 04 10:25:04 <beyond_> still
Sep 04 10:25:09 <beyond_> please guide me along
Sep 04 10:25:24 <ogra_> i told you what to do yeveral times already
Sep 04 10:25:29 <ogra_> *several
Sep 04 10:25:36 <ogra_> try a newer image
Sep 04 10:27:56 <beyond_> yeah, very sure,, m on it
Sep 04 10:31:26 <ogra_> if that doesnt work either i would start thinking about blaming the hardware
Sep 04 10:31:33 <ogra_> or wiring ...
Sep 04 10:31:36 <ogra_> or switch ...
Sep 04 10:34:25 <beyond_> hmm....Can you please give a look to this also
Sep 04 10:34:26 <beyond_> http://pastebin.com/pMRg2BC4
Sep 04 10:35:14 <beyond_> he is saying for some patch sort of, and the samething to replace the current uboot
Sep 04 10:36:32 <ogra_> well, what should i tell you about this ?
Sep 04 10:36:55 <ogra_> try it or dont :)
Sep 04 10:37:39 <beyond_> na na, i thought that this might give any clue.. I am in a condition that I will try anything ;)
Sep 04 10:38:44 <ogra_> well, he is asking the same thing i do .... to try a newer bootloader and kernel
Sep 04 11:27:43 <vr45> are there any free videos/training material available to understand android power management
Sep 04 11:27:50 <vr45> sorry for the offtopic question
Sep 04 11:30:38 <ogra_> probably something to ask in an android channel ?
Sep 04 11:36:55 <vr45> thanks, i will try there
Sep 04 11:43:58 <rsv> msg Nick Serv identify planet
Sep 04 11:46:33 <LetoThe2nd> rsv: suggestion: pw change, rather soon.
Sep 04 11:54:12 <vicky_> hi all., where can i get latest kernel source code for beaglebone?
Sep 04 11:55:11 <vicky_> any git is there?
Sep 04 12:03:22 <koen> vicky_: have you read the SRM?
Sep 04 12:03:50 <LetoThe2nd> koen: oh c'mon, reading is sooooo overrated.
Sep 04 12:36:06 <mdp> there's some nice apps that will read documents to you to avoid the reading part, I like that
Sep 04 17:14:17 <koen> jkridner___: also see https://github.com/hvaibhav/am335x-linux/wiki/Pin-Control-Usage
Sep 04 18:00:31 <alan_o> koen, jkridner___: What's in that link, from my experience, didn't do anything. That was a couple weeks ago, it may be different or fixed now, but heads up.
Sep 04 18:01:06 <alan_o> could have been an error in the dts or in the pinctrl-single driver.
Sep 04 18:01:42 <alan_o> also could be fixed by now. I haven't tried it since.
Sep 04 18:13:56 <koen> alan_o: vaibhav has a patch to fix ethernet, it should hit his github this week
Sep 04 18:14:21 <koen> alan_o: my next project is to get cpufreq working, which means debugging the tps driver
Sep 04 18:15:42 <alan_o> koen: nice!
Sep 04 18:16:09 <alan_o> Hey, so as far as fixing ethernet.... does it fail for you with current mainline?
Sep 04 18:16:22 <alan_o> It only failed for me with net-next, but maybe my mainline is a little out of date
Sep 04 18:16:36 <koen> alan_o: yes, the hwmod for cpsw is missing
Sep 04 18:18:21 <koen> alan_o: I pushed an updated patchset with most of the patches refreshed
Sep 04 18:18:27 <koen> alan_o: so ethernet is broken
Sep 04 18:19:36 <alan_o> ok. I tried running with g_ether from net-next +beaglebone-3.6, but it g_ether had problems too.
Sep 04 18:20:35 <alan_o> I don't remember exactly the error. I hacked cpsw to work, so I could get my 802.15.4 patches submitted
Sep 04 18:21:50 <alan_o> So is there any technical reason keeping this stuff from getting submitted to mainline, or just manpower resources?
Sep 04 18:21:58 <alan_o> I can help with that if you like.
Sep 04 18:23:18 <alan_o> The problem is, getting a handful submitted at a time will cause problems as they filter individually from project kernels into mainline, but that can be managed somewhat.
Sep 04 18:28:23 <koen> alan_o: it's the interdependencies
Sep 04 18:28:35 <koen> hwmod goes to linux-omap, usb goes to linux-usb, etc
Sep 04 18:29:00 <koen> alan_o: and till recently TI didn't plan developer time around merge windows
Sep 04 18:29:11 <alan_o> yeah, and they'll all filter to mainline at different rates.
Sep 04 18:29:43 <alan_o> I think the patches are of good quality, at least the ones I've looked at
Sep 04 18:30:01 <koen> so I'm trying to collect everything and push the extra stuff into mainline when the TI stuff hits
Sep 04 18:30:07 <koen> e.g. LED support for bone
Sep 04 18:30:15 <alan_o> the dts?
Sep 04 18:30:20 <koen> yes
Sep 04 18:30:28 <alan_o> I think half the patches in beaglebone-3.6 are dts
Sep 04 18:30:30 <alan_o> which is good.
Sep 04 18:30:37 <koen> sort off
Sep 04 18:30:43 <koen> it means I need to hack uboot more :)
Sep 04 18:30:57 <alan_o> Well they merge easy and all in the same tree, I mean
Sep 04 18:31:05 <koen> since uboot will have to parse the eeproms, generate a dts, compile it, pass it to linux and boot
Sep 04 18:31:06 <alan_o> I guess I don't know what you mean about u-boot
Sep 04 18:31:10 <alan_o> ah yes
Sep 04 18:31:10 <alan_o> that
Sep 04 18:31:38 <alan_o> That's going to be quite a job, I think.
Sep 04 18:31:47 <koen> yes
Sep 04 18:31:57 <koen> and the topic of the ELC-E talk I submitted :)
Sep 04 18:32:09 <alan_o> nice
Sep 04 18:32:13 <alan_o> I'm looking forward to that one
Sep 04 18:32:24 <alan_o> We find out tomorrow about submissions
Sep 04 18:32:47 <alan_o> supposedly. For previous conferences they've missed their target notification dates.
Sep 04 18:33:18 <koen> well
Sep 04 18:33:25 <koen> this one already slipped multiple times
Sep 04 18:34:01 <alan_o> ok, so maybe this will be the one
Sep 04 18:34:07 <alan_o> I didn't start checking the website till the other day
Sep 04 18:34:33 <alan_o> I wonder how many they get.
Sep 04 18:34:37 <alan_o> and what process they go though
Sep 04 18:35:53 <koen> you send prpplague some rum, your talk gets accepted
Sep 04 18:36:30 <alan_o> I thought I read something about him having some say in it, but wasn't sure if I interpreted it correctly.
Sep 04 18:36:31 <prpplague> and a bag of i2c devices
Sep 04 18:36:37 <alan_o> So he's on the committee?
Sep 04 18:36:41 <alan_o> hey, there he is
Sep 04 18:37:04 <alan_o> so how does it work, is there a committee? I guess some LF people and apparently some industry people?
Sep 04 18:37:23 <prpplague> alan_o: this is my first year on the program committee
Sep 04 18:37:24 <alan_o> or are you part of LF somehow that's not clear to me.
Sep 04 18:37:35 <prpplague> alan_o: yea, LF + community
Sep 04 18:37:49 <prpplague> alan_o: all submissions are reviewed and voted on
Sep 04 18:38:31 <prpplague> alan_o: with the exception that if you submitted a presentation proposal, you can't vote on it
Sep 04 18:38:39 <alan_o> prpplague: So what do the numbers look like, are half accepted? a quarter?
Sep 04 18:38:55 <alan_o> or are you allowed to say? :)
Sep 04 18:40:15 <prpplague> alan_o: well there are about 5 sessions per day over 3 rooms, and 3 days, so about 45 presentations will be accepted with about 10 on a waiting list
Sep 04 18:40:49 <prpplague> alan_o: and on average there are about 100 to 120 submissions
Sep 04 18:41:19 <prpplague> alan_o: but many people submit two or three proposals
Sep 04 18:41:28 <alan_o> like me :-D
Sep 04 18:41:29 <linuxjacques> hmm, ELC-E is < 2 months out
Sep 04 18:41:30 <prpplague> alan_o: so if one is accepted the other two are droped
Sep 04 18:41:54 <linuxjacques> well no, 2 months and a couple of days
Sep 04 18:42:52 <prpplague> linuxjacques: let's not be picky
Sep 04 18:42:57 <alan_o> prpplague: So based on those figures, it would seem like most of the _people_ get accepted.
Sep 04 18:43:24 <prpplague> alan_o: acceptance emails should go out tomorrow
Sep 04 18:43:43 <alan_o> prpplague: Great! I've been waiting hard :)
Sep 04 18:44:45 <linuxjacques> prpplague, I try not to, but it's a natural trait in engineers :-)
Sep 04 18:45:26 <alan_o> linuxjacques: yeah, and if you don''t correct yourself on this channel, plenty of people are perfectly willing to do it for you :)
Sep 04 18:45:46 <linuxjacques> alan_o, yep, been there :-D
Sep 04 18:46:10 <alan_o> Of course I'm wrong a lot, so maybe that's why it feels that way
Sep 04 18:46:24 <prpplague> alan_o: that makes two of us
Sep 04 18:47:45 <linuxjacques> just for fun, I'm checking flights to Barcelona
Sep 04 18:48:10 <linuxjacques> hmm, just about twice what I paid to fly from Houston to OKC a couple of weeks ago
Sep 04 18:48:35 <bewest> howdy, I'm having trouble building the stock cloud9-image for beaglebone.  it fails to complete do_populate_sysroot, I believe because some variables fail to get expanded or included
Sep 04 18:48:40 <bewest> https://gist.github.com/3624889
Sep 04 18:48:52 <bewest> or maybe there is a way to tell my build to build an older version
Sep 04 18:48:53 <alan_o> Dave Miller: Re: [PATCH v7 1/1] ieee802154: MRF24J40 driver: Applied to net-next, thanks. w00t!
Sep 04 18:49:09 <bewest> googling this error shows others experiencing the problem, but I don't see a solution anywhere
Sep 04 18:49:21 <alan_o> first whole driver in mainline (well, almost, in net-next now anyway)
Sep 04 18:49:41 <bewest> I can see the temp/run* files in the build directory
Sep 04 18:50:03 <bewest> at one point there's a /// in a path
Sep 04 18:50:19 <bewest> and indeed, those directories in build/.../temp are empty
Sep 04 18:56:00 <thurbad> is the speaker output on the beagleboard considered amplified or not?
Sep 04 19:20:43 <prpplague> koen: ping
Sep 04 19:23:40 <ds2> >
Sep 04 19:37:33 <koen> prpplague: pong
Sep 04 19:38:08 <prpplague> koen: hey, question, remember you sent out an email a while back about the changes to narcissus builds?
Sep 04 19:38:17 <prpplague> koen: did you move forward with any of that?
Sep 04 19:41:50 <koen> prpplague: I only got 1 or 2 responses, so it's on the back burner
Sep 04 19:42:03 <koen> prpplague: I need to fix it before ELC-E
Sep 04 19:42:44 <prpplague> koen: i spoke to richard purdie at linux plumbers
Sep 04 19:43:03 <prpplague> koen: he was interested in getting a bunch of the "board bringup" utils in a yocto config
Sep 04 19:43:15 <koen> prpplague: I'd like to generate the for-sale sd cards with narcissus
Sep 04 19:43:36 <koen> (or rather, have someone else generate them, I'm lazy)
Sep 04 19:44:13 <koen> prpplague: yeah, the yocto folks are getting reamed for not caring about the actual output of the system
Sep 04 19:45:48 <koen> "why is VFP disabled by default?"
Sep 04 19:46:00 <koen> "vfp? Dunno, but we have an eclipse plugin"
Sep 04 19:46:34 * koen gets back to watching politicians debate on TV
Sep 04 19:49:29 <ds2> koen: when are you going to convince folks to put in better SD cards that are not slower then molasses in siberia? :D
Sep 04 19:54:36 <djlewis> ds2:  cheap, fast, good triangle
Sep 04 22:03:16 <mranostay> koen: so how many nutty parties you have in .nl?
Sep 04 22:03:24 <mranostay> and by nutty i mean all of them :)
Sep 04 22:06:23 <tholm> I compiled the dsplinkk.ko module but if I run a hello_word program I get "PROC_setup () failed. Status = [0x80008008]"
Sep 04 22:06:34 <tholm> any idea?
Sep 04 22:28:08 <mranostay> tholm: silly question but did you load it?
Sep 04 22:28:34 <tholm> yep
Sep 04 22:29:35 <tholm> http://pastebin.com/ckH1bFVX
Sep 04 22:57:21 <djlewis> anyone playing with these? A10/1GHz Cortex-A8,
Sep 04 22:57:26 <djlewis> http://www.sainsmart.com/home-page-view/mk802-ii-3rd-generation-android-4-0-mini-pc-google-tv-box-internet-wifi-player.html
Sep 05 00:06:09 <thurbad> does anyone know of any tricks to getting FLIP mode working as the gles driver on the beagleboard classic?
Sep 05 00:07:05 <thurbad> tried tripling the memory allocated to fb0 and using fbset to triple the virtual vertical size
Sep 05 01:25:29 <thurbad> does anyone know what the limitation is for virtual heigh in the framebuffer offhand? if I try increasing it to 1800 it fails, butI can set it to 1440 (basically triple buffering above 640x480 fails at the driver level :(
Sep 05 01:32:05 <thurbad> barring using the FIP driver is there any way to wait on vsync before trying to draw/ or even do double buffering?
Sep 05 01:32:11 <thurbad> *FLIP
Sep 05 01:48:08 <ds2> yes.
Sep 05 02:00:26 <thurbad> care to enlighten me... or at least give me a hint for googling?
Sep 05 02:00:30 <thurbad> :P
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