**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 10 02:59:59 2012 Sep 10 07:50:29 me0w Sep 10 12:42:32 hi Sep 10 12:43:10 I was wondering whether it is possible to have a e-sata connection on a beagleboard and/or beaglebone (by doing a specialized cape) ? Sep 10 12:51:56 guyzmo: it's called a usb-SATA bridge Sep 10 12:52:30 the omap5 pandaboard will have SATA I guess Sep 10 12:59:19 you could try to use the gpmc pins and a serializer Sep 10 13:07:10 koen: a serial shift register? ;) Sep 10 13:08:43 yes Sep 10 13:09:33 and a leve lshifter Sep 10 13:09:47 a serial level shift register. Sep 10 13:09:58 \o/ "integrated circuits" Sep 10 13:10:38 ic Sep 10 13:27:33 dm8tbr - yup, but the pandaboard is too big :/ Sep 10 13:27:52 dm8tbr - and btw, doesn't the USB have a lower throughout than sata, does it ? Sep 10 13:29:02 (and also the pandaboard harder to source for more than a few units than the bone) Sep 10 13:29:33 usb has higher throughput than sata when there is no sata Sep 10 13:29:55 and probably higher than bitbanged sata on the bone Sep 10 13:30:53 ok, so there's no arm-based board that has full e-sata support ? Sep 10 13:31:25 guyzmo: buy some cheap marvellbased nas and tear out the board. Sep 10 13:31:26 (except maybe the cubox, and the panda too) Sep 10 13:31:50 there are literally tons. Sep 10 13:32:02 ok Sep 10 13:32:20 thanks for the hints Sep 10 13:32:37 why does it need to be arm? Sep 10 13:32:49 av500: because more $BUZZWORD Sep 10 13:32:50 av500 - it does not need to be arm, I just want the whole to be cheap Sep 10 13:35:14 av500 - if you know another board with a different architecture that can do fast throughout with a harddrive, I'd be really happy :) Sep 10 13:35:30 throughput to where? Sep 10 13:35:39 sata to /dev/null? Sep 10 13:35:46 basically, ethernet Sep 10 13:36:01 but also to the system Sep 10 13:36:29 for $CHEAP, just buy whatever funny heap nas box fits your budget at $FAVORITECHEAPOELECTRONICSRETAILER Sep 10 13:36:42 get a pogoplug or so Sep 10 13:36:45 gigE and sata Sep 10 13:37:30 * LetoThe2nd favors the moshpitplug. Sep 10 13:38:56 not the buzzplug? Sep 10 13:39:13 ah they got a $99 pogoplug with sata, interesting Sep 10 13:39:48 av500: if it has to have buzz, then only the büzzplüg. Sep 10 13:39:49 I remember having the old seagate one for $20 which is nice, but not that much Sep 10 13:42:14 LetoThe2nd: ah, the metal version Sep 10 13:42:47 mru: of course. Sep 10 13:44:32 mru: you know, more umlauts are always more evil and therefore more metal. only exception is, that if there is already the maximum count of dots above the letter in the original version, then it counts as considerably more evil to leave the dots out completely. Sep 10 13:45:53 LetøThe2nd - änd thë strïked lëttër ø ïs ëvën mørë ëvïl ! Sep 10 13:46:07 * LetoThe2nd headbangs Sep 10 13:46:41 that's just the danish/norwegian form of ö Sep 10 13:48:51 øl Sep 10 13:50:07 oï! Sep 10 13:51:42 koen, I am being lazy Sep 10 13:51:59 do you have pvb layout templates for the bone for reasonable cad pakages? Sep 10 13:52:02 pcb Sep 10 13:55:04 Crofton: github.com/circuitco Sep 10 13:58:00 http://www.armkits.com/Product/beaglebone-hdmicape.asp Sep 10 14:00:41 there are adcs exposed Sep 10 14:12:18 Hi! I have problem booting the beagleboard. I have followed the instructions for Angstrom but it still doesn't boot. When I try to boot, only a few hex-numbers are shown in the hyperterminal connected to it. The board was bought used and the SD-card is new Sep 10 14:15:23 BB or BB XM? Sep 10 14:27:11 H_enke, have you double checked your hyperterminal settings? (baudrate, parity, etc.) Sep 10 14:28:56 BB xM Sep 10 14:29:15 av500: BB xM Sep 10 14:29:23 then it can be the card Sep 10 14:29:25 jsabeaudry: Yes, they are correct Sep 10 14:29:37 or a bad serial cable Sep 10 14:29:54 do you want to see the hex-code? Sep 10 14:30:03 is there a way to check if the card is bad? Sep 10 14:38:07 H_enke: dump the card partition info Sep 10 14:41:39 these airborn interwebs are flaky Sep 10 16:01:34 hello world, I'm Giorgio Sep 10 16:44:49 well ain't that great Sep 10 16:54:49 'tis m'lord Sep 10 16:55:25 mranostay, monday attitude? Sep 10 16:56:07 anyone got some primary sources for the history of the PC XT/AT keyboard? Sep 10 16:56:13 yea i know O/T Sep 10 16:56:20 not at all Sep 10 16:57:29 bummer Sep 10 16:57:48 http://www.daskeyboard.com/blog/?page_id=1329 Sep 10 16:57:53 not at all O/T I meant Sep 10 16:58:01 oh Sep 10 16:58:52 av500: yea i had found that link, i was trying to find some more info about the actual design decisions Sep 10 16:59:58 av500, I came away from that learning that men were not allowed to operate computer until the 1960s Sep 10 17:00:04 * mdp tucks that nugget of knowledge away Sep 10 17:00:24 prpplague: what makes you think any actual decisions were involved? Sep 10 17:00:49 heh Sep 10 17:01:27 mru: hehe, i found some references, but not the whole story Sep 10 17:01:32 it reminds of of the time I had a selectric ball on my key chain Sep 10 17:02:52 mru: is that linaro-mm channel dead now? Sep 10 17:03:17 it was nuked about 2 months ago Sep 10 17:04:03 mru: ah :) Sep 10 17:04:12 and where does one hang out now? Sep 10 17:04:46 here? Sep 10 17:05:01 and linaro mm group was disbandedß Sep 10 17:05:03 and linaro mm group was disbanded? Sep 10 17:05:06 yes Sep 10 17:05:09 ah Sep 10 17:05:15 all mm was done Sep 10 17:05:28 group was useless Sep 10 17:06:13 I used to do work they should've been doing, then they hired me and that arrangement was no longer possible Sep 10 17:06:54 mru? Sep 10 17:07:41 ever heard of "blueprints"? Sep 10 17:07:44 it's an ubuntu thing Sep 10 17:07:59 goes well with the "orange" Sep 10 17:07:59 yes Sep 10 17:08:10 with launchpad Sep 10 17:09:19 mru: I see the people migrating here as we speak :) Sep 10 17:36:57 av500: more people?!? i can't deal :P Sep 10 17:50:32 is there a reason the random mac address patches from the 3.0 kernel haven't been brought forward to mainline-3.2? The mac by cpu-id patch seems to apply cleanly and the other that sets it does not. Is this just a case of grunt work needing doing, or has it been fixed in some other way (e.g. I saw some mention of support for a kernel command line arg smsc95xx.macaddr=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx or possibly etheraddr=xx:…)? Sep 10 17:51:22 Jason Krinder's response on the mailing list sound to me like it should have gone away as an issue by now: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/beagleboard/_jQS8kdv3Ag Sep 10 19:07:36 hi mr av500 Sep 10 19:10:00 how is it in cone world? Sep 10 19:11:16 mru: i'm fumbling about trying to compile plex on the pi but it's made even slower by compiling on the pi itself Sep 10 19:12:10 hehe Sep 10 19:20:39 prpplague: must need to save up some allowences to get a real build system :) Sep 10 19:25:23 mranostay: ya think he noticed? Sep 10 20:23:37 I came here to ask where the analog ins moved to (between Rev A5 and Rev A6). But I have found the answer and verified it. Sep 10 20:23:55 Rev A5 = * /sys/devices/platform/tsc/ Sep 10 20:24:18 Rev A6 = /sys/devices/platform/omap/tsc/ Sep 10 20:25:26 o.O Sep 10 20:26:03 Oops! ignore the asterisk! Sep 10 20:26:12 Welll Carry on. Sep 10 20:26:12 are you sure that it is not a different kernel version? Sep 10 20:26:27 yeah, different kernal. Sep 10 20:26:40 I should have made that clear Sep 10 20:26:49 it is the kernal, not the hardward rev. Sep 10 20:28:28 Anyway, it took me a few minutes to realize the change, but now that I've modified my code, all is better. Sep 10 20:32:16 yes make your code compatible to diffrent kernel versions Sep 10 22:21:23 finally a JB tree that is building on 32bit Sep 10 22:21:27 * ds2 dances around Sep 10 22:24:59 blah emulator Sep 10 22:25:17 * mranostay doesn't want to see ds2 dance Sep 11 02:31:05 Hi all, anyone having experience booting problem with the beagle board? My board is not booting every time I power cycle it with a serial device is connected Sep 11 02:31:55 but it boot succesfully when the serial device is not connected Sep 11 02:35:18 which beagleboard? Sep 11 02:37:37 meh.. he left already... twice Sep 11 02:47:22 thurbad: thats becase jep hates you... Sep 11 02:47:39 wouldn't be the first... won't be the last :P Sep 11 02:48:56 sorry, Im using beagleboard xm Sep 11 02:49:12 this chat has been far more active lately; Sep 11 02:49:32 are youusing a null serial cable? Sep 11 02:49:55 no, im straight cable Sep 11 02:50:03 *using Sep 11 02:50:35 and your port settings are correct? Sep 11 02:52:10 yes Im sure it's correct. I could get output from my serial device using mini com. The only problem is it won't boot when power cycle it with the serial device connected **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 11 02:59:58 2012