**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 17 02:59:59 2012 Sep 17 04:09:37 hello Sep 17 04:09:55 have anyone tried to connect with a linux machine to the board via ad-hoc? Sep 17 04:10:08 windows machine connects but ubunto would not\ Sep 17 04:10:13 *ubuntu Sep 17 04:12:23 ad-hoc what? Sep 17 04:42:02 i assume wifi Sep 17 05:00:06 hi I connected to beagle board via ad-hoc, but when I ping the IP number of the bagleboard it does not return Sep 17 05:00:42 please give more information Sep 17 05:00:52 are you running DHCP or fixed addresses? Sep 17 05:01:00 I dont know Sep 17 05:01:03 how can I check Sep 17 05:01:09 I set up the ip for the beagleboard Sep 17 05:01:16 and the ssid Sep 17 05:01:20 and the netmask Sep 17 05:01:20 but not on the laptop? Sep 17 05:01:25 no Sep 17 05:01:32 well ... d'uh! Sep 17 05:01:39 there's your problem™ Sep 17 05:01:54 I using windows to conenct cause linux would not connect Sep 17 05:02:33 I follow this steps, http://addisu.taddese.com/blog/creating-wireless-ad-hoc-network-in-linux/ Sep 17 05:03:41 well what about the 'on machine B' part? Sep 17 05:03:49 did you? Sep 17 05:04:19 yes I did those setting on machine B Sep 17 05:04:44 but you said that was windows, so what did you do exactly? Sep 17 05:05:12 since there was no luck on linux I connected to the board with windows Sep 17 05:05:19 it shows on the wifi menu Sep 17 05:05:25 and I connected to the board Sep 17 05:05:31 did you configure the IP address on windows? Sep 17 05:05:33 yes/no Sep 17 05:05:35 no Sep 17 05:05:47 05:01:32< dm8tbr> well ... d'uh! Sep 17 05:05:47 05:01:39< dm8tbr> there's your problem™ Sep 17 05:06:05 I though the beagle board will assing IP Sep 17 05:06:34 contrary to popular belief linux is not powered by magic and witchcraft Sep 17 05:07:22 my router has linux and it has no problem assining ip :) Sep 17 05:08:34 yes, but it's built by a manufacturer to do so Sep 17 05:09:09 you can ofc pay someone to configure your beagleboard to do so. just as you paid for a functional router. Sep 17 05:09:21 or you could learn how to properly configure networks Sep 17 05:09:25 lol Sep 17 05:09:35 * dm8tbr is serious Sep 17 05:09:39 a little actitud there Sep 17 05:09:43 ;) Sep 17 05:13:27 how come you get angry? Sep 17 05:14:27 * dm8tbr is not angry Sep 17 05:18:06 I'd suggest you read a bit about networking basics. it will help you in the future. Sep 17 05:18:28 things like IPv4, DHCP, IPv6, etc Sep 17 05:19:01 so, have you meanwhile set the IP of your windows box? Sep 17 05:19:27 I hope you haven't used the same subnet as for your router Sep 17 05:22:00 I'm looking online for ways to configure Sep 17 05:22:15 most places say just put the ad-hoc ssid and thats it Sep 17 05:22:23 they dont talk about the ip configuration Sep 17 05:23:28 can you show me a site where they say about windows ip configuration for ad-hoc Sep 17 05:23:33 I'm using windows 7 Sep 17 05:24:08 http://yx.fi/55k Sep 17 05:25:14 so you can't find it either Sep 17 05:25:19 I know I'm having the same problem Sep 17 05:25:36 * dm8tbr knows very well Sep 17 05:26:04 I want _you_ to learn something that is individual problem solving Sep 17 05:29:57 i got the ip set up Sep 17 05:30:06 on the DNS servr what should I put? Sep 17 05:30:21 I left it blank but it does not connect Sep 17 05:33:23 it must be something else still does not work Sep 17 05:33:24 :( Sep 17 05:33:40 cause I had done his on windows and did not work Sep 17 05:33:44 I mean on linux Sep 17 05:33:52 that;s why I'm asking Sep 17 05:34:05 cause it did not work on linux so I think something else is missing Sep 17 05:34:06 on linux you'd have to either configure network manager or disable and do it manually Sep 17 05:37:04 setting up network manager to stop Sep 17 05:37:08 adnd start again Sep 17 05:37:18 I will keep searching that didnt work either Sep 17 05:40:30 it would really help if you would understand the basics of networking Sep 17 05:41:26 it does connect, I had set the ip and netmask Sep 17 05:41:45 and I follow those instructions and many others Sep 17 05:41:55 saying go to google it does not much help Sep 17 05:42:13 did you ever use ping? Sep 17 05:42:18 yes Sep 17 05:42:26 and it does not show Sep 17 05:42:54 when it connect the computer gets its own ip Sep 17 05:43:02 I type ipconfig Sep 17 05:43:07 and it shows a ip Sep 17 05:43:10 what is the IP? Sep 17 05:43:23 192.168.1.177 Sep 17 05:43:35 and on the board is 10.2.0.1 Sep 17 05:43:44 that can not work Sep 17 05:43:48 I know Sep 17 05:43:54 so I had set the ip on windows Sep 17 05:43:59 to what? Sep 17 05:44:01 to be 10.2.0.11 Sep 17 05:44:14 and the netmask 255.255.255.0 Sep 17 05:44:16 on both Sep 17 05:44:22 and? Sep 17 05:44:49 and I came to the beagleboard site when none of that work Sep 17 05:45:18 ok, so let's make sure we're on the same page: Sep 17 05:45:40 - what is RIGHT NOW the IP of the beagleboard (check with ifconfig) Sep 17 05:45:55 10.2.0.1 Sep 17 05:46:17 - what is RIGHT NOW the IP of the windows wifi card (check with windows UI or ipconfigonfig) Sep 17 05:46:50 10.2.0.11 Sep 17 05:47:03 that's what I set up Sep 17 05:47:08 and they are connected together Sep 17 05:47:16 is the laptop and the beagleboard Sep 17 05:47:19 connected together Sep 17 05:47:25 do you know what a pastebin is? Sep 17 05:47:30 yes Sep 17 05:48:00 run those two commands on the beagleboard: "ifconfig" and "iwconfig" and pastebin the result Sep 17 05:48:48 ok hold Sep 17 05:52:56 from the board http://pastebin.com/k9m7KbfE Sep 17 05:55:52 never mind it pings back :) Sep 17 05:56:07 I dont know why it didnt before Sep 17 05:56:10 magic Sep 17 05:56:24 but thank you for the help!! :) Sep 17 06:01:24 heh Sep 17 10:03:37 hi ! Sep 17 11:09:09 hello ... Sep 17 11:11:40 I am using prus, and want detect input from gpio. I use WBS, but seem never been set. Is there anyone have same problem ? Sep 17 11:12:07 w Sep 17 11:12:11 who Sep 17 11:12:38 I am able to do GPIOtogle with prus. But still no luck with GPIO input. Sep 17 11:16:40 Hi jadid what are WBS and prus? Sep 17 11:16:58 I am working on a device based on the beagle board. The kernel I am using is 2.6 and the keypad driver is the twl4030. I am trying to find a way to stop the kernel from waking up when a key is pressed on any key but the power key. I am running Android but I want to stop the wake up before it gets to Android because the problem we are having is when you put the device in a bag the battery drains do to wake up and sleep. I have tried changing the twl4030 dr Sep 17 11:18:25 PRUS is programmable core in AM3359 (Beaglebone). WBS is wait bit set, one of prus instruction. Sep 17 11:19:08 I have tried unsetting it but it still seems to wake the kernel Sep 17 11:19:21 I am wondering if twl4030 has issues I don't know about Sep 17 11:19:30 kperry: I believe you can configure that in the keymapping between the linux kernel and the android input system (http://source.android.com/tech/input/key-layout-files.html) have a look there Sep 17 11:19:56 I tried that but if you configure it there it still wakes the kernel and seems to load the modules Sep 17 11:20:07 load modules? Sep 17 11:20:21 which seems to be a lot when the twl4030 is internal to the dm3530 Sep 17 11:20:29 Yes the kernel will wakeup but is that so bad? Sep 17 11:20:29 should be able to stop it earlier right? Sep 17 11:20:51 well if you put it in a bag and interrupts continue to fire because a key is pressed Sep 17 11:21:00 the battery is dead in a 25 minute walk Sep 17 11:23:10 and how long does it take to drain when the devie is on? kernel wakeups should not be that bad. It happens all the time on android devices. Sep 17 11:23:23 kperry: does the screen go on? Sep 17 11:23:37 OK here is the special circumstance Sep 17 11:23:56 there is no screen there is a braille display wich activates when the kernel wakes Sep 17 11:24:14 its a special device for the blind its an android note taker / phone Sep 17 11:24:20 interesting :P Sep 17 11:24:53 the reason we know its waking is we see the brialle display clear which doesn't happen when we press the gpio keys we have for brialle input Sep 17 11:25:02 but it does wake on the twl4030 keypad Sep 17 11:25:11 I a sorry I can't be of more use. I guess you could stop the event (uinput) from being send while still in the kernel Sep 17 11:25:35 hmm woudl I do that in the driver or after? Sep 17 11:26:51 In theory it shoud not matter but as soon as userland is up the PowerManager will take over the kernel wakelock. so do it as early as possible. Sep 17 11:27:43 The strange thing is I tried to stop it in the driver but I must have done something wrong Sep 17 11:27:51 possibly even just hack it in the pm wakeup stuff. Try it in the driver first Sep 17 11:28:07 kperry: even if you stop the event that doesn't mean the kernel is not woken up and will continue waking up Sep 17 11:28:19 what did you do to make the kernel go to sleep again? Sep 17 11:28:41 kperry: I guess the TWL keys are configred as wake-ups Sep 17 11:28:48 I didn't I am new at this as you probably can guess so that might be the piece I missed Sep 17 11:28:49 nothing to do with key handling Sep 17 11:29:06 kperry: you need to take keys out of the wakeup domain Sep 17 11:29:20 wiz what is the best way to do that Sep 17 11:29:46 I dont know the details ad-hoc Sep 17 11:29:53 somewhere in the TWL driver Sep 17 11:31:02 wiz ok I probably just haven't found the right place the driver seems so small its amazing I haven't found it yet Sep 17 12:13:08 The last code sourcery release for arm/linux is 2012.03-57. Do you recommend it for BB dev, or is it better to stay on arm2009q1. Until now I've had no reason to not adopt it (kernel ok, binaries ok,...) Sep 17 12:13:46 my general recommendation is to completely stay away from those toolchains Sep 17 12:14:00 if you want to use prebuilt ones, pick a linaro one Sep 17 12:14:43 koen: Wasn't expecting this answer. Why such revultion ? Sep 17 12:14:58 about 8 years of experiences with the CSL crap Sep 17 12:15:07 they sell toolchains Sep 17 12:15:27 koen: like, selling toolchains by the pound? Sep 17 12:15:30 so just like the drug dealer at the schoolyard: the first one is free, you pay a big price for the real thing Sep 17 12:17:40 the latest codesourcery seems to work ok over here Sep 17 12:17:51 but linaro is probably a better pick Sep 17 12:19:17 toolchains are overrated Sep 17 12:19:59 koen: hi there. Time to check patch #36383? Strangely there are still different tarballs around (i.e. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kexec-tools/1:2.0.2-3ubuntu4 ) Sep 17 12:20:06 hello all Sep 17 12:20:33 Interesting, I did not know about this alternative. I'll give a closer eye on it. Sep 17 12:22:40 anyone know offhand if all the current bone A6's have the AM335 9 processor on them ? reading the spec sheets, BOM and various posts it looks like they can have either the "8" or "9" version Sep 17 12:23:10 technically it's the XAM3359 Sep 17 12:23:28 Digikey and Mouser say they are warehoused and have no idea Sep 17 12:23:30 and the jury is still out on whether the 58 and 59 are actually different silicon Sep 17 12:24:06 and TBH Sep 17 12:24:30 the only difference would be ethercat, which uses the PRU and hence isn't supported by TI anyway Sep 17 12:24:59 per TI the 58, out of the entire series, doesn't have EtherCAT support...which I need :) so am curious before I order a bunch Sep 17 12:29:26 ah ok maybe I'm not reading the correct document form TI or misunderstanding how the chip is supported http://www.ti.com/lit/ug/spruh73f/spruh73f.pdf table 1.1 is what I was looking at Sep 17 12:37:40 koen, it's supported as a blackbox Sep 17 12:38:39 if you have significant monetary value Sep 17 12:39:16 aka if you're buying chips by the million Sep 17 12:39:30 hrm Sep 17 12:39:49 we aren't OMAP Sep 17 12:40:09 so I'll at least say that's a bit high Sep 17 12:41:42 100k then Sep 17 12:42:22 yeah, maybe Sep 17 12:46:58 correcting myself, it looks like the 56 doesn't have ethercat either. On the PRU support thing I found what I was looking at earlier in devloping the PRU binary http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Soft-UART_Implementation_on_AM335X_PRU_-_Software_Users_Guide Sep 17 12:49:51 yea, special computing just confirmed they are shipping the bones with AM3359ZCZ - off to order a couple. Thanks for the info Sep 17 12:57:44 "support" has so many meanings Sep 17 13:00:25 mdp: I'll support you getting back to the Hotel at ELCE Sep 17 13:00:38 LOL Sep 17 13:00:50 i'll support your tinnitus by more cowbell. Sep 17 13:01:01 that's the most important type of support Sep 17 13:01:14 * mdp packs a cowbell early Sep 17 13:02:22 cowbeall early, cowbell often Sep 17 13:02:25 -a Sep 17 13:02:56 there are circumstances under which cowbells can be considered metal, indeed. Sep 17 13:05:55 metal needs moar cowbell! Sep 17 13:06:34 * LetoThe2nd hands dm8tbr some Def Leppard Sep 17 13:06:57 granted, its pretty much hairspray, but it has cowbell ;) Sep 17 13:20:55 Hello! I'm using Beagleboard XM running Canonical Ubuntu 12.04 3.2.0-30-omap. Even with the latest kernel where sound issue is fixed, I'm not able to get audio output. $ cat /proc/asound/cards lists 0 [omap3beagle ]. Can anyone help me out with this? Sep 17 13:26:23 mranostay: btw, I got confirmation from the elce hotel Sep 17 13:27:15 \o/ Sep 17 13:29:41 mru, I was concerned when prpplague said rooms were low...but got mine also this morning Sep 17 13:29:56 mdp: a low room is fine, crouch.... Sep 17 13:30:36 being john malkovich style? Sep 17 13:30:38 just now on the other irc: [15:29:40] def: please remember to re-assign the musb/host ticket to xyz Sep 17 13:30:44 7 1/2 floor will do fine Sep 17 13:30:51 nicks have been changed to protect the innocent Sep 17 13:30:58 av500: yeah, musb guy left Sep 17 13:31:12 koen: ours is still here Sep 17 13:31:13 so it's a a->r assignfest Sep 17 13:31:14 "names have been changed to punish the guilty" Sep 17 13:31:19 * LetoThe2nd saw john malkovich live on stage a few weeks ago :) Sep 17 13:31:47 koen, the deciders forgot to tell the workers here he left Sep 17 13:31:56 koen: who was that? Sep 17 13:32:00 koen, or as denix calls them, "Those Above(tm)" Sep 17 13:32:08 the abovers? Sep 17 13:32:11 denic? Sep 17 13:32:19 LetoThe2nd: russian denic Sep 17 13:32:36 av500: in russia, domain registers you. Sep 17 13:33:55 av500, ajay: https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/7/18/153 Sep 17 13:35:49 oh, ajay left Sep 17 13:36:12 but we now have ananth Sep 17 13:37:01 panto: re: old conversation :) ... [RFC PATCH] drivers: phy: add generic PHY framework Sep 17 13:38:28 mdp, lol Sep 17 13:38:41 panto, I win! Sep 17 13:38:44 that's a good 7 years ago :) Sep 17 13:38:50 no no Sep 17 13:38:55 more? Sep 17 13:39:07 the truly generic phy framework for use on usb Sep 17 13:39:13 ah Sep 17 13:39:22 it's the same idea really Sep 17 13:39:25 The Right Way(tm) Sep 17 13:39:58 [RFC PATCH] kernel: core: add generic microkernel framework Sep 17 13:40:03 yeah, just seen it Sep 17 13:40:03 I win! Sep 17 13:40:21 hehe Sep 17 13:41:01 of course since there's no well defined physical interface between the usb controller and the PHY, it's an even bigger mess than ethernet Sep 17 13:43:01 h/w is horribly inconvenient Sep 17 13:56:50 prpplague: hey there Sep 17 13:59:23 mru: greetings Sep 17 14:00:47 prpplague: did you get my message? Sep 17 14:01:08 mru: guess not Sep 17 14:01:34 I tried to send a text message to what I had listed as your number Sep 17 14:01:50 ahh i grabbed a sim card for use in the UK Sep 17 14:02:24 but I got a delivery confirmation... Sep 17 14:02:46 hehe yea i am sure it is waiting for me when i switch back to my other number, hehe Sep 17 14:02:46 are they telling lies? Sep 17 14:03:02 probably Sep 17 14:03:09 the confirmation is supposed to indicate that it has been actually delivered Sep 17 14:03:17 and usually it seems to be accurate Sep 17 14:03:26 SMS these days... Sep 17 14:03:33 mru: I always suspected that operators count it as delivered once they hand over to $other_network (especially abroad) Sep 17 14:03:47 like sending to a phone that's turned off does not get the confirmation until it comes back on again Sep 17 14:03:57 dm8tbr: quite possible Sep 17 14:04:11 prpplague: anyway, bletchley tomorrow? Sep 17 14:04:19 mru: do it proper british style, send a boy Sep 17 14:04:23 mru: yep Sep 17 14:04:41 mru: gotta check the train schedule to see what time i will arrive Sep 17 14:04:54 mru: target is around 9:30 to 10:00 am Sep 17 14:05:10 * prpplague has bad jet lag Sep 17 14:06:04 is there good jet lag? Sep 17 14:06:06 and the hotel room has no A/C Sep 17 14:06:09 * prpplague grumbles Sep 17 14:06:11 of course not Sep 17 14:06:13 welcome to europe Sep 17 14:06:21 I can get to bletchley station by 9:50am Sep 17 14:06:34 possibly sooner if the tube plays nice Sep 17 14:06:34 fortunately the room does have a window that opens Sep 17 14:06:52 mru: dandy, i'll check the trains from warwick shortly Sep 17 14:07:50 So for the hotel rooms at ELC, the LF website has a link to a .DOC file that I'm supposed to email? Seriously? Sep 17 14:08:14 alan_o: apparently Sep 17 14:08:24 I filled in the fields and made a pdf that I emailed Sep 17 14:08:27 seemed to work Sep 17 14:09:14 alan_o: yes, it is insane Sep 17 14:09:21 prpplague: yeah, I'll probably catch an earlier train from london than the website suggests Sep 17 14:09:51 otoh that train is slower so it only saves 10m in the end Sep 17 14:10:09 alan_o: i converted fro .doc to .odt , filled out the form, printed it, signed, scanned it, save it as jpg, converted from jpg to pdf and emailed it Sep 17 14:10:29 I didn't sign it Sep 17 14:10:31 nice :) Sep 17 14:10:32 worked anyway Sep 17 14:10:43 yeah, I'm not printing/signing/scanning Sep 17 14:10:47 prpplague: you forgot placing it on a wooden table and photographing it Sep 17 14:11:03 I've done that before :) Sep 17 14:11:38 I question the legal validity of scanned/faxed signatures. Sep 17 14:11:56 then upload the photo to an online fax service, send it to yourself, and email the tiff to the hotel Sep 17 14:12:17 alan_o: fax is sometimes considered valid apparently Sep 17 14:12:25 that's why the fax machine isn't extinct yet Sep 17 14:12:26 yes Sep 17 14:12:30 certain jurisdictions do, yes Sep 17 14:13:01 yeah, that's what I mean, "certain jurisdictions" and "apparently" Sep 17 14:13:10 lawyers love faxes Sep 17 14:13:29 I guess the point is, I'm not sure I'm willing to rely on it when it comes to something that will protect me. Sep 17 14:13:56 If other people accept it, then that's their issue to consider and deal with. Sep 17 14:14:16 and maybe I'm just full of crap :) Sep 17 14:14:25 you can always send a boy with an envelope... Sep 17 14:14:51 +1 Sep 17 14:14:53 Here fax is probably the best you can do for all sorts of official communication. Sep 17 14:14:55 If he gets on his bicycle now.... stows away on a cargo ship... Sep 17 14:21:53 alan_o, after utilizing the hotel doc file registration method I fully expect to arrive and find them working at a manual typewriter at check-in. Sep 17 14:22:26 * dm8tbr wonders which hotel he'll end up with... Sep 17 14:22:42 dm8tbr: want to buy one? Sep 17 14:22:52 have to wait till our internal process goes through before I can book things Sep 17 14:23:09 so much for early bird Sep 17 14:23:11 mru: wow 66 quid for one way in the morning Sep 17 14:24:14 get a return Sep 17 14:24:18 _always_ get a return Sep 17 14:24:22 it'll be like £2 more Sep 17 14:24:43 yea i selected a return Sep 17 14:24:48 unless i am reading this wrong Sep 17 14:24:54 and morning travel has hiked-up prices Sep 17 14:24:58 its 66 down and 21 back Sep 17 14:25:01 they want to push people away from rush hour Sep 17 14:25:15 dm8tbr: I detest getting bounced from the venue hotel...had to really pester my mgmt to get the ok in time to get in :( Sep 17 14:25:22 mru: yea looks so Sep 17 14:25:47 mru: any issues with pushing it back to 12:30 ? Sep 17 14:27:31 will that leave us enough time? Sep 17 14:28:31 mdp: only be ending up in the venue hotel, you have a chance of getting thrown out :) Sep 17 14:28:36 yea the primary tour is at 2:30 , and the colossus stuff is after that Sep 17 14:28:53 av500, your parser broke! :P Sep 17 14:29:23 mdp: everything is broken Sep 17 14:29:29 http://www.hanselman.com/blog/EverythingsBrokenAndNobodysUpset.aspx Sep 17 14:33:35 av500: That sounds like one of my rants, and the title is right. Nobody cares. People in offices where I have worked will just deal with all the Outlook and Windows problems all day long, then make up excuses why OSS alternatives won't work for them. Sep 17 14:34:04 av500, I feel like we should be able to his list Sep 17 14:34:42 "iphone 4s can't be forced to 720p camera record so ipad1 can have videos synced to it..." Sep 17 14:35:27 prpplague: ok, if the afternoon is enough Sep 17 14:35:38 I've never been there so I have no idea Sep 17 14:35:45 mdp: what is iphone 4s? never heard of that Sep 17 14:36:21 it's another obsolete apple product :) Sep 17 14:36:24 several iphone 4 perhaps Sep 17 14:36:35 mru: even that does not ring a bell Sep 17 14:37:16 we were always using iphone5, no? Sep 17 14:37:48 you just need to understand that it's a revolutionary and magical device Sep 17 14:41:08 av500: eurasia was always at war with oceania Sep 17 14:41:34 mru: dandy Sep 17 14:41:58 mru: just didn't want to make your train ride back too late in the evening Sep 17 14:42:30 I thought you said the tours were at fixed times anyway Sep 17 14:43:09 mru: yea Sep 17 14:43:25 mru: 2:30 and i think the whole tour is about 1.5 hours Sep 17 14:43:44 mru: plus another hour for the colossus stuff Sep 17 14:44:00 mru: so leaving around 5 ish assuming we don't find a pub Sep 17 14:45:39 the last sane train back for me at 22:15 Sep 17 14:46:02 hehe Sep 17 14:46:46 * prpplague pictures a blasted mru sleeping on a park bench.... Sep 17 14:46:47 the best connection out gets me there at 11:55 Sep 17 14:46:56 prpplague: let me find pics Sep 17 14:48:03 mru: leaving at 22:15 ? Sep 17 14:48:07 av500: hehe Sep 17 14:48:26 "to have truely great Indian food, visit the UK" Sep 17 14:48:32 hehe Sep 17 14:48:55 prpplague: arrive bletchley 11:55, return no later than 22:15 Sep 17 14:50:00 mru: dandy you will a little earlier than i Sep 17 14:50:18 verbs people, verbs! Sep 17 14:50:35 av500: sorry, need food Sep 17 14:50:43 * prpplague goes to find an atm food Sep 17 14:50:48 hehe Sep 17 14:51:03 bbiab Sep 17 14:52:08 * av500 watches prpplague get mugged Sep 17 14:53:43 prpplague: so when will you get there? Sep 17 14:54:17 mru: looks like 12:45 Sep 17 14:54:22 * mdp needs a google glass live feed of the mugging Sep 17 14:54:30 av500: hehe Sep 17 14:54:54 av500: i've had attempted muggings in some pretty rough places Sep 17 14:55:49 * av500 forgets prpplague is a space marine Sep 17 14:55:55 mru: see /msg for my UK cell number Sep 17 14:56:03 av500: hehe Sep 17 16:02:59 hello i need some help about beagleboard xm rev c Sep 17 16:03:08 is there anyone can help me Sep 17 16:04:33 asj Sep 17 16:04:34 ask Sep 17 16:04:46 asl Sep 17 16:05:14 my device resets itself Sep 17 16:05:21 do you know any reason for that Sep 17 16:07:05 ug: usually that is because it either hates you or you didn't feed it..... Sep 17 16:07:20 or you bathed it with a baby Sep 17 16:08:31 that also happens when you drop the device in your campfire...true story Sep 17 16:08:47 device or baby? Sep 17 16:08:53 both Sep 17 16:09:08 baby is a just a bio-device, right? Sep 17 16:09:09 i got beaglebord xm rev c Sep 17 16:09:15 prpplague: for tomorrow, I have trains arriving 11:55 or 12:55 Sep 17 16:09:19 mdp: the baby hates the device Sep 17 16:09:37 mru: ahh ok Sep 17 16:09:56 mru: 12:55 might be the target, unless you want to be careful and arrive early Sep 17 16:10:25 ug: imagine we are not standing behind you Sep 17 16:10:58 * prpplague returns from having "bangers and mash" with a pint of Boddingtons Sep 17 16:11:08 mmmm Sep 17 16:11:25 so many ales, so little time Sep 17 16:11:33 i never realized that the 50p coin is the same as the $1 barbados coin Sep 17 16:11:38 same shape that is Sep 17 16:13:14 mranostay: ugh, i am having trouble scaling my presentation down from 50 minutes which it was written for to 35 for ALS :( Sep 17 16:17:05 mru: i want to head out to some of local pubs this evening, but i have too much work to do Sep 17 16:20:54 all work and not play..... Sep 17 16:20:57 -t Sep 17 16:24:15 av500: i know Sep 17 16:24:29 av500: just want to make sure i am well prepare for Wednesday Sep 17 16:24:37 * prpplague is a workaholic Sep 17 16:25:15 * prpplague likes the one quid coins Sep 17 16:25:19 wnat to come over and mow my lawn ? Sep 17 16:25:30 germany isnt far :) Sep 17 16:25:47 prpplague: workaholic in the sense that you drink at work? Sep 17 16:26:03 * ogra_ is always happy to help addicted people :) Sep 17 16:26:31 mru: hehe Sep 17 16:26:46 mru: never heard it described like that Sep 17 16:26:54 ogra_: i don't even do my own yard Sep 17 16:26:57 slainte. Sep 17 16:27:05 ogra_: doubt i would mow yours Sep 17 16:27:13 ogra_: hehe Sep 17 16:27:20 heh Sep 17 16:28:02 i have a hand driven mower for 900m2 .... you could really work a *lot* :) Sep 17 16:28:51 * mru owns a share in a 8000m2, you're welcome to take care of that too Sep 17 16:29:25 although 6000 of it is more or less forest Sep 17 16:29:30 prpplague, see, you got friends around the worl wanting to help you with your probelm :) Sep 17 16:29:45 so you even get to use a chainsaw Sep 17 16:30:05 hehe Sep 17 16:31:46 when you're done, I have another 30k m2 forest Sep 17 16:32:06 mru: mansvillie forest? Sep 17 16:32:26 it's about the smallest piece of land you can own around there Sep 17 16:32:29 kinda like a roach motel, people go in but don't come out? Sep 17 16:32:56 the bears are not included though Sep 17 16:33:07 they technically belong to the state of sweden Sep 17 16:33:09 hehe Sep 17 16:33:59 there are bears in that area Sep 17 16:58:19 prpplague: choose pub ;) Sep 17 17:12:39 hi... I want to use a gpio like interrupt. I had looking for on internet... but I don't find how to do it. Where I found a tutorial o manual for this? Sep 17 17:16:33 what is the toolchain that is using koen when compile his Kernel? Sep 17 17:16:37 veneco: did you check the TRM? Sep 17 17:17:12 tholm: I'd expect ångström default? Sep 17 17:17:17 dm8tbr: correct Sep 17 17:17:25 :) Sep 17 17:18:08 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/ Sep 17 17:18:12 ?? Sep 17 17:18:34 cuz that gcc is 4.3.3 Sep 17 17:20:42 dm8tbr: well... I use this command: echo 7 > /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux/gpmc_ad12 Sep 17 17:21:02 veneco: that does not answer my question, does it? Sep 17 17:24:43 dm8tbr: I'm sorry for my answer, I don't know what is TRM Sep 17 17:26:25 dm8tbr: TRM means Technical Reference Manual? Sep 17 17:26:33 http://bit.ly/SUKTaq Sep 17 17:26:40 yes Sep 17 17:29:37 Linux version 3.0.17+ (koen@dominion) (gcc version 4.5.4 20111126 (prerelease) (GCC) ) Sep 17 17:30:09 where can i download that gcc version? Sep 17 17:30:16 i mean the toolchain Sep 17 17:32:08 I'd expect that it gets downloaded in the process of setting up the angst-rom OE environment for e.g. bone or bbxm Sep 17 17:32:30 go to angstrom website, click 'developers', follow instructions Sep 17 17:32:40 most people fail at the first step Sep 17 17:32:48 what's left fails at the 3rd step Sep 17 17:33:05 following instructions is apparently quite hard Sep 17 17:33:41 ok thx Sep 17 17:36:33 dumb question... MACHINE=beagleboard ./oebb.sh config beagleboard --> Is It the same for BB-xM? Sep 17 17:37:23 yes Sep 17 17:37:31 thx Sep 17 17:58:38 http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-europe/hotel Sep 17 17:58:40 discuss Sep 17 18:14:06 we already discussed that Sep 17 18:39:16 I have my beaglebone powered by the 5v plug. I have a small separate board with a PSoC5 and USB core rated at 5mA and 85mA respectively, connected to the bone's usb host port. The device does not receive any power and is not listed under lsusb on the bone. Sep 17 18:48:46 bother Sep 17 18:49:06 mru, was there a conclusion I should know about Sep 17 18:49:22 the hotel booking scheme is insane Sep 17 18:49:36 heh Sep 17 18:49:37 filling out the form and emailing it as pdf does work Sep 17 18:49:49 you do not need to print/sign/scan Sep 17 18:50:13 maybe I'll be lucky because of that and they'll still have rooms once I get the go ahead from corporate ;) Sep 17 18:52:45 dm8tbr: are you confident they'll approve it? Sep 17 18:53:07 90%, yes Sep 17 18:55:50 just make the reservation Sep 17 18:57:13 I told my boss I'd be going whatever he said, but no pay, no name on badge Sep 17 19:05:00 rofl Sep 17 19:05:14 a badge sponsor Sep 17 19:05:26 that's how I see it Sep 17 19:05:57 hmm, I should add that if they pay for beer I'll say nice things about them Sep 17 19:07:32 I keep saying nice things about them because they let me work on open-source on company time. ;) Sep 17 19:07:55 same here, actually Sep 17 19:09:50 good point Sep 17 19:09:59 <_av500_> dm8tbr: right, reserve, you can still cancel Sep 17 20:49:42 anyone sticking around Barcelona on friday? Sep 17 20:49:59 I think I messed up my ticket and am flying back on Saturday Sep 17 20:59:21 Crofton: I was thinking of staying longer (for the weekend) Sep 17 21:04:48 <_av500_> Crofton: poor you Sep 17 21:05:16 looks like they only refund 50% on cancellations? Sep 17 21:05:40 <_av500_> the hotel? Sep 17 21:06:05 yeah, the event hotel Sep 17 21:06:25 "50% will be refunded for those cancellations made between the 20th September and 04th October 2012." Sep 17 21:09:21 I wonder what the start and end dates of the special rate block are Sep 17 21:09:22 <_av500_> they drive a tough bargain Sep 17 21:09:35 <_av500_> though I bet you'd find somebody else to take over the room Sep 17 21:10:22 <_av500_> haha, I put my phone on my wallet and NFC goes bing it seems Sep 17 21:10:46 lol Sep 17 21:10:59 and a bit scary Sep 17 21:11:10 <_av500_> ah, I have that CC skimming app installed Sep 17 21:11:29 <_av500_> nevr sit close to me :) Sep 17 21:11:47 * linuxjacques slowly backs away. Sep 17 21:13:39 nfc for the win Sep 17 21:14:59 <_av500_> ha, its the stechkarte from my sons kindergarden thatis NFC :) Sep 17 21:21:36 hi any one here? Sep 17 21:21:56 <_av500_> no Sep 17 21:22:00 need some help regarding ubuntu on beagleboard Sep 17 21:22:41 after booting ubuntu on beagleboard, i reset the password. but now i dont remember the password. can you please tell me how to reset it Sep 17 21:26:57 the long silent pause . . . Sep 17 21:27:35 *CRASH* Sep 17 21:27:37 *BOOM* Sep 17 21:27:40 *CLAMOUR* Sep 17 21:27:50 <_av500_> mount the sd card on your PC and kill the password Sep 17 21:28:11 <_av500_> also googling "ubunut password reset" or so should help Sep 17 21:28:24 ubunut :) Sep 17 21:28:45 unbuntu Sep 17 21:29:01 <_av500_> djlewis: I just mash my fingers onto u,b,n and t and always something amazing pops out Sep 17 21:29:13 unbutu Sep 17 21:29:23 <_av500_> ununubutt Sep 17 21:29:42 <_av500_> I'll name my distro ASDF Sep 17 21:29:42 nubutu Sep 17 21:29:55 nbutton Sep 17 21:30:06 <_av500_> tubtubno Sep 17 21:30:21 _av500_: distros are dead, they're all "OS" now Sep 17 21:30:27 hell, even browsers call themselves that Sep 17 21:30:38 tuubin Sep 17 21:30:43 turbine? Sep 17 21:30:47 turban Sep 17 21:31:07 <_av500_> tarpit Sep 17 21:31:17 itsthepitts Sep 17 21:31:42 do you know what 'pitt' means in swedish? Sep 17 21:33:17 if i clear second field of /etc/passwd which contains encrypted passwrd, wont ask me password when i login? Sep 17 21:33:27 correct Sep 17 21:35:20 lemme try that\ Sep 17 21:42:47 Hi Sep 17 21:50:03 help needed please Sep 17 21:51:11 we all need help Sep 17 21:51:15 and money Sep 17 21:51:24 mo money Sep 17 21:51:35 woglinde: I can help you spend the money Sep 17 21:51:52 mru first we need the money Sep 17 21:52:06 mo and mo money Sep 17 21:52:28 "we're doing it for the money. when we get the money we'll do it _with_ the money." -- somewhere on the internets Sep 17 21:53:02 <_av500_> in soviet russia, money does you Sep 17 21:53:13 <_av500_> totallylost: ask a question Sep 17 21:53:25 in USA money gets you elected Sep 17 21:53:27 im booting linux on beagleboard. but unforutnately i forgot my password. can you please tell me how to reset it Sep 17 21:53:38 <_av500_> ask lostandnotfound Sep 17 21:53:51 <_av500_> what is this nick changing about? Sep 17 21:54:30 <_av500_> old answers still apply Sep 17 21:54:43 <_av500_> and bed just called Sep 17 21:54:49 still not able to recover Sep 17 21:55:02 i tried resetting the /etc/shadow file. but still no help Sep 17 21:55:30 did you change root or your user pwd? Sep 17 21:57:30 root Sep 17 21:57:37 djlewis: maybe he changed the root password of _himself_ Sep 17 21:57:45 nope "root" Sep 17 21:57:49 seems a simple sudo would work Sep 17 21:57:50 try logging into his brain Sep 17 21:58:17 @djlewis: Im not able to login itself Sep 17 21:58:58 mru: that sounds scarey Sep 17 21:59:54 djlewis: indeed, so make sure you keep that password secret Sep 17 22:00:02 any help guys? Sep 17 22:01:17 change /etc/passwd Sep 17 22:01:20 not shadow Sep 17 22:01:24 uh? Sep 17 22:01:36 shadow is the file with the encrypted password Sep 17 22:01:40 sure Sep 17 22:01:46 but that he dont know Sep 17 22:01:54 so its useless Sep 17 22:02:00 etc/passwd is easier Sep 17 22:02:06 no passwd needed Sep 17 22:02:06 and has no effect Sep 17 22:02:09 o.O Sep 17 22:02:10 which field in /etc/passwd? Sep 17 22:02:23 i cleared the second field in /etc/shadow. but didnt work Sep 17 22:02:31 mru when did you tried it the last time? Sep 17 22:02:52 maybe a year ago Sep 17 22:02:53 totallylost the second Sep 17 22:02:55 the x Sep 17 22:02:59 remove it Sep 17 22:03:06 then no passwd should be needed Sep 17 22:03:40 time to go to bed Sep 17 22:03:44 good nite Sep 17 22:04:11 it's also possible that something is blocking (root) login with no password Sep 17 22:06:01 in th old days one could just remove the scrambled character field to blank the pwd. Sep 17 22:06:35 what rootfs is this? Sep 17 22:07:19 djlewis: still works here Sep 17 22:07:35 in fact, I can't be bothered to set a root password on my dev boards Sep 17 22:08:53 remote login needs an ssh key of course Sep 17 22:09:04 remote direct root needs to be configured for such. Sep 17 22:09:52 failure thereof is not supported per failure classification due to and promimiate of a biological in origin failure. Sep 17 22:10:01 and if you can access my boards at all, you've already breached my network and I have bigger problems Sep 17 22:10:45 my wifi is outside the firewall Sep 17 22:13:03 nothing a colony of well trained ants can't fix Sep 17 22:13:17 rewire my network? Sep 17 22:13:41 no, have each ant carry a baud and make them march in at 300baud to the console :D Sep 17 22:14:01 how will they get past the anteater? Sep 17 22:14:07 or was that a lion? Sep 17 22:14:32 didn't say it was a lostless connection Sep 17 22:14:54 or was it a plain old ethercat: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JCY6RWQ-PAw/UFchwDGUaFI/AAAAAAAACYQ/4jYhbcy-j7A/s420/ethercat.png Sep 17 22:21:47 run a chksum, all is well Sep 17 23:11:43 anyone need a female pup out of reggie and cookie> Sep 17 23:11:58 er Sep 17 23:12:03 oh sure.. Sep 17 23:12:25 not what this channel is about Sep 17 23:12:33 see, that's why you block 3rd-party cookies Sep 17 23:12:36 somebody ignored the banner Sep 17 23:12:41 prevents unwanted offspring Sep 17 23:13:11 snip snip also helps Sep 17 23:13:15 we should get a pup for a mascot Sep 17 23:13:35 * mranostay points to mdp Sep 17 23:13:44 pass it around to each for care. Sep 17 23:14:19 * mru barely manages to keep the hardiest of pot plants alive Sep 17 23:14:42 does management thinking a phone call is going to get this board working... Sep 17 23:14:58 * mranostay hurls a BDI around Sep 17 23:15:09 mru: i couldnt keep any house plant alive. Sep 17 23:15:25 I have exactly one Sep 17 23:15:31 mru: throw them outdoors in disgust and they come back lustrius Sep 17 23:15:49 I don't have a garden Sep 17 23:15:58 mru: don't have kids then Sep 17 23:16:07 or pups Sep 17 23:16:12 mranostay: I don't Sep 17 23:16:57 that you know of Sep 17 23:17:09 I'm certain Sep 17 23:17:52 * djlewis searches world database for childcare suits Sep 17 23:18:12 lawsuits that is ;) Sep 17 23:18:34 I don't have any alleged children either Sep 17 23:26:46 time to head home.. later.. :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 18 02:59:58 2012