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Oct 10 03:00:27 <alan_o> hmm.... reading wikipedia... I didn't realize hare and rabbit were different.
Oct 10 03:13:35 <mranostay> mru: can we add "Lying by Omission" as endorsable LinkedIn skill?
Oct 10 03:33:52 <alan_o> mranostay: I know it's a joke, but aren't those free text?
Oct 10 03:34:01 <alan_o> I mean, they were when I added mine
Oct 10 03:34:16 <alan_o> some would autocomplete and match to things in their database
Oct 10 03:35:25 <alan_o> It would be fun to make some fake profiles
Oct 10 03:36:01 <alan_o> I read about a guy who made a fake profile which matched his skills exactly just to see if the recruiters the he had _hired_ were poaching his employees
Oct 10 03:36:13 <alan_o> they all were, except one, iirc
Oct 10 08:22:57 * dm8tbr wonders if he should participate in that yocto dev day thing at ELCE/LCE
Oct 10 08:23:16 <dm8tbr> anyone here done this previously?
Oct 10 08:24:13 <av500> maybe you get taught by Crofton
Oct 10 08:24:32 * dm8tbr wonders if he's 'new user' or 'advanced'
Oct 10 08:25:55 * dm8tbr includes his IRC nick in the registration and wonders how the badge will look like...
Oct 10 08:30:56 <koen> dm8tbr: last time the 'new user' bit was interesting enough
Oct 10 08:31:09 <koen> dm8tbr: a lot of good questions from the audience
Oct 10 08:31:31 <koen> I haven't looked at the scheduled sessions for this one, though
Oct 10 09:05:34 <dm8tbr> koen: hmm, ok. i now signed up for advanced. but I guess switching should be somehow possible.
Oct 10 09:05:55 <dm8tbr> (I was afraid they'd start out with 'this is a recipe' and stuff like that)
Oct 10 09:06:11 * dm8tbr will wait and see
Oct 10 09:07:24 <av500> this is my recipe, there are many like it but this one is mine
Oct 10 09:19:05 <dm8tbr> I don't always use recipes, but when I do they are BB-recipes...
Oct 10 10:48:52 <Jmaes> have any one has build linux kernel manually fo rbeagle board XM rev C
Oct 10 10:53:10 <koen> no, I use the makefile provided by the kernel
Oct 10 10:54:23 <Jmaes> yaa i mean to say through makefile using "make ARCH=arm .........."
Oct 10 10:54:35 <Jmaes> i am facing some problrm in that
Oct 10 10:54:56 <av500> that state the problem
Oct 10 10:54:59 <Jmaes> which defconfig file have you used
Oct 10 10:55:07 <av500> then*
Oct 10 10:55:20 <av500> which kernel source are you using?
Oct 10 10:55:35 <Jmaes> actually i have build it sucessfully and i got uImage also
Oct 10 10:55:43 <Jmaes> its from git
Oct 10 10:55:58 <av500> there is more than 1 git in the world
Oct 10 10:56:10 <Jmaes> jst a sec
Oct 10 10:56:34 <Jmaes> git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap.git linux-omap
Oct 10 10:56:52 <Jmaes> ref: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard
Oct 10 10:58:00 <Jmaes> the defconfig i have used is "make ARCH=arm omap2plus_defconfig"
Oct 10 10:59:04 <av500> yes
Oct 10 10:59:05 <av500> and?
Oct 10 10:59:50 <Jmaes> make ARCH=arm uImage
Oct 10 11:00:23 <Jmaes> but with this the kernel got panic and it could not set the clock
Oct 10 11:01:03 <Jmaes> this is also given "make CROSS_COMPILE=arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi- omap3_beagle_defconfig"
Oct 10 11:01:28 <Jmaes> but file "omap3_beagle_defconfig" is not in kernel source
Oct 10 11:01:41 <av500> yes, it says there that it does not work
Oct 10 11:01:47 <Jmaes> yups
Oct 10 11:02:01 <av500> I guess that works with angstrom kernel pathes for beagle
Oct 10 11:02:01 <koen> Jmaes: why not use one of the branches from https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/ ?
Oct 10 11:02:35 <av500> koen: maybe because elinux does not mention it? :)
Oct 10 11:03:09 <Jmaes> i have used github this aslo gives same result
Oct 10 11:03:23 <av500> and the result being?
Oct 10 11:03:39 <Jmaes> kernel got panic and it could not set the clock
Oct 10 11:04:39 <av500> would you care to pastebin a boot log?
Oct 10 11:04:49 <av500> or should I send a ninja?
Oct 10 11:06:02 <Jmaes> lol
Oct 10 11:11:38 <mdp> will the ninja wear google glasses?
Oct 10 11:12:53 <LetoThe2nd> mdp: google googles.
Oct 10 11:13:27 <mdp> the googly google googles with google
Oct 10 12:10:09 <ztroy> hello
Oct 10 12:10:25 <ztroy> i've shipped this http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/index.php?title=433Mhz_RF_link_kit
Oct 10 12:10:41 <any1> but not to me, please do
Oct 10 12:10:44 <ztroy> but i the good pin to get the data
Oct 10 12:11:22 <ztroy> i wonder what is the good gpio mode to retrieve the data for transmit or recieve
Oct 10 13:28:55 <mdp> ztroy: can you elaborate?
Oct 10 14:01:24 <SilicaGel> ABC, 123, it's Eric the Half A Bee
Oct 10 14:04:17 <ka6sox> SilicaGel, URL?
Oct 10 14:04:24 <SilicaGel> hmm, really?
Oct 10 14:04:35 <ka6sox> O
Oct 10 14:04:37 <SilicaGel> I guess if you insist:  http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/132/8/8/Eric_the_Half_a_Bee_by_Pikzeloid.jpg
Oct 10 14:04:41 <ka6sox> I'm old....
Oct 10 14:05:21 <ka6sox> not a happy camper
Oct 10 14:16:47 <emeb_mac> wretched demi-bee, half-asleep upon my knee.
Oct 10 14:45:21 <av500> http://www.androidenea.com/2009/06/android-boot-process-from-power-on.html
Oct 10 14:56:55 <nestor_> I think my original SD card has failed and I'm trying to get a new one up and running.  I followed the 'Hard Way' directions from http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/, and got Angstrom working, but I'd like to try the Cloud9 flavor.
Oct 10 14:58:05 <nestor_> In the "Easy Way" instructions, it directs you to unpack to a 'raw' card, what does that mean?  A card with no partitions?  Or a blank card with 2 partitions, fat32 and ext3?
Oct 10 15:00:01 <joelagnel> negril, when you do a raw write, it doesn't matter if you have paritions or not, they're overwritten anyway
Oct 10 15:00:11 <joelagnel> *nestor_
Oct 10 15:00:53 <nestor> okay, so I should use the xz command to my root sdb
Oct 10 15:00:59 <nestor> not a partition.
Oct 10 15:01:22 <joelagnel> yes
Oct 10 15:02:14 <nestor> Thanks :).   And the Angstrom-Cloud9* image from that location is the freshest?
Oct 10 15:10:34 <mranostay> morning gentlemen and trolls
Oct 10 15:11:55 <av500> aye
Oct 10 15:12:16 <koen> no gentletrolls?
Oct 10 15:26:23 <nestor> joelagnel et all:  I tried the xz command to raw write the fs, and got "Bad ext2 partition or disk"  in the serial console when I attempted to boot.
Oct 10 15:29:48 <Mathieu> Hi guys
Oct 10 15:30:19 <jsabeaudry> Hello Guest83574
Oct 10 15:30:24 <Guest83574> I have a few questions about the beagleboard xM, is there somebody willing to help me?
Oct 10 15:32:37 <av500> ask, dont ask to ask
Oct 10 15:32:46 <Guest83574> Oke thx
Oct 10 15:34:04 <Guest83574> Well, I am a student in elektronic engineering. I have a beagle board that I want to use as central unit in a home automation system.
Oct 10 15:34:28 <Guest83574> I already installed GUI on the beagleboard, Ubuntu 12.0
Oct 10 15:35:00 <Guest83574> But know I have to do some data processing on UART's on the beagle board
Oct 10 15:36:59 <Guest83574> there is data comming in trought 2 UART's, but I don't know how to write a software to process that data. I would prefere a c environment. But I really have no clue how te set up a C compiler for beagleboard, and how to work with the UART interface
Oct 10 15:40:06 <dm8tbr> just do it like you would do it on a desktop
Oct 10 15:40:40 <dm8tbr> on the beagleboard just do: apt-get install build-essential
Oct 10 15:41:43 <dm8tbr> the only difference will be that the serial ports are named ttyO? instead of ttyS?
Oct 10 15:51:38 <Guest83574> I still have no clue to do that. I have 0 linux experience!
Oct 10 15:54:35 <dm8tbr> then it might be a good idea to get a book on the topic and start reading
Oct 10 15:54:43 <dm8tbr> or ask your supervisor for a different project
Oct 10 15:55:52 <ztroy>    any one can help me ?
Oct 10 15:56:02 <Guest83574> I'm willing to read a book. But I don't know what to search for.
Oct 10 15:56:25 <Guest83574> I just want to know how to write my application suited for beagle board in C++
Oct 10 15:56:56 <nestor> Isn't there a cross-compiler for the platform that Guest could use with an IDE on windows,e tc?
Oct 10 15:58:24 <Guest83574> yes that is what I need. En mayby a tutorial... "How to controll beagleboard UART pins" :-P
Oct 10 16:00:59 <_av500_> its a linux uart
Oct 10 16:01:05 <_av500_> google linux and serial port
Oct 10 16:03:50 <ztroy> i search for plug an rf emitter and reciever in 433mhz range
Oct 10 16:03:52 <ztroy> http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/index.php?title=433Mhz_RF_link_kit
Oct 10 16:04:09 <ztroy> i want to read the data from the unique dedicated pin
Oct 10 16:04:28 <ztroy> but i dont know the right gpio mode
Oct 10 16:04:49 <ztroy> i dont want burn or brick my beagle :/
Oct 10 16:06:20 <_av500_> google beagleboard gpio
Oct 10 16:06:28 <_av500_> lots of examples to read and write a gpio
Oct 10 16:12:19 <mdp> ztroy, I suggest you take a very close look at the voltage level on that recvr data pin versus the i/o capability of your "beagleboard"
Oct 10 16:13:36 <ztroy> hmm the voltage depends of the working bps ?
Oct 10 16:15:02 <ztroy> @esp _av500_: tanks, i've found, to emitt it require gpio direction to "in" :P
Oct 10 16:15:45 <joelagnel> Has anyone tried one of those MMCplus cards with a beagle/xm/bone?
Oct 10 16:16:12 <ztroy> @esp _av500_: tanks, i've found, to emitt it require gpio direction to "in" :P
Oct 10 16:16:18 <ztroy> hmm the voltage depends of the working bps ?
Oct 10 16:20:31 <mdp> ztroy, the receiver data logic voltage is relative to the Vcc you supply
Oct 10 16:21:12 <mdp> doublecheck your interfacing before you hook it to beagle*
Oct 10 16:25:36 <ztroy> Receiver Data Output: High - 1/2 Vcc, Low - 0.7v
Oct 10 16:25:41 <ztroy> Receiver Input Voltage : 3.3-6V (high voltage = more receiving power)
Oct 10 16:26:04 <ztroy> if i plug it on 3.3 of beagle its good ?
Oct 10 16:26:50 <ztroy> the board is powered by usb
Oct 10 16:35:39 <mdp> you said beagleboard..that's 1.8V I/O
Oct 10 16:41:41 <ztroy> no
Oct 10 16:41:44 <ztroy> beaglebone
Oct 10 16:45:37 <bradfa> joelagnel, isn't mmcplus similar size to full size SD?
Oct 10 16:51:43 <mdp> bradfa, it's like maternity clothes for MMC
Oct 10 16:52:01 <bradfa> lol
Oct 10 16:53:29 <bradfa> Only Beagle has full size slot, or panda
Oct 10 16:53:35 <bradfa> bone and xM have micro slots
Oct 10 16:53:52 <bradfa> I'm curious about mmc / emmc, but they're generally fairly hard to buy
Oct 10 16:55:38 <bradfa> Samsung don't even make it easy to find their mmc offerings (if they still have any) other than the eMMC parts
Oct 10 17:00:47 <mdp> bradfa, they started hiding their raw nand parts when they were pushing the pre-eMMC MoviNAND in all their silicon bom bundles
Oct 10 17:01:01 <mdp> sounds similar
Oct 10 17:01:04 <bizulk1> Hi All ! just to say that I did manage to play h264 file with dsp on BB xM (DVSDK & gst-dsp). The distributed codec seem to be limitated to 480p, over we risk system instabilities (kernel oops, etc...)
Oct 10 17:08:24 <bradfa> mdp, If you click on Samsung's OEM NAND links, they send you to a "page not found" error
Oct 10 17:08:39 <mdp> hehe
Oct 10 17:08:48 <mdp> "Sold!" :)
Oct 10 17:15:22 <ds2> \
Oct 10 17:17:15 <mdp>  /
Oct 10 17:18:06 <Russ> that escalated quickly
Oct 10 17:47:43 <Crofton> dm8tbr, what have you done with oe-core top date?
Oct 10 17:48:48 <dm8tbr> Crofton: i've used the classic stuff and worked on overlays for Archos gen6/7
Oct 10 17:50:06 <Crofton> I think that would make you advanced :)
Oct 10 17:50:06 <dm8tbr> got ok enough to modify recipes to suite my needs, wrote a couple of new ones
Oct 10 17:50:45 <dm8tbr> haven't touched the stuff in a while, but will be glad to take that as 'homework'
Oct 10 17:51:15 <Crofton> I think a detailed schedule will appear soon
Oct 10 17:51:22 <Crofton> you will be at ELCE already?
Oct 10 17:51:26 <dm8tbr> e.g. I'm not familiar with the newer oe stuff meta-*
Oct 10 17:51:55 <dm8tbr> yes, I'll likely arrive on friday or saturday as I'll be coming directly from LCE in copenhagen
Oct 10 17:56:01 <mru> dm8tbr: I'm doing that trip on saturday
Oct 10 17:56:32 <_av500_> that cat day
Oct 10 18:03:16 <dm8tbr> mru: There was no real program for friday last time I checked. but now stuff pops up.
Oct 10 18:04:13 * dm8tbr was thinking of sight seeing in barcelona so probably a friday evening flight
Oct 10 18:04:24 <dm8tbr> would give me saturday and sunday
Oct 10 18:09:26 * mranostay yawns
Oct 10 18:17:25 <Guest54992> my linux kernel shows "Starting udev [    6.424803] udev: starting version 151 [    6.431426] udevd (774): /proc/774/oom_adj is deprecated, please use /proc/774/oom_score_adj instead. [    7.979737] alignment: ignoring faults is unsafe on this CPU.  Defaulting to fixup mode. Remounting root file system..."
Oct 10 18:17:38 <Guest54992> http://pastebin.com/8MNiQZGD
Oct 10 18:18:36 <mru> that's not the kernel
Oct 10 18:19:08 <SilicaGel> in fact it fairly clearly says right there that the message came from udevd
Oct 10 18:19:11 <Guest54992> its file system ?
Oct 10 18:19:52 <Guest54992> why is this problem came ?
Oct 10 18:20:26 <Guest54992> how to solve it
Oct 10 18:21:26 * dm8tbr fails to see a problem to solve
Oct 10 18:22:18 <Guest54992> udevd (774): /proc/774/oom_adj is deprecated, please use /proc/774/oom_score_adj instead.
Oct 10 18:23:47 <dm8tbr> I still don't see a problem that needs to be addressed by YOU.
Oct 10 18:25:01 <mranostay> heh
Oct 10 18:49:46 <ds2> has anyone tried dead bugging QFNs?
Oct 10 19:14:04 <mranostay> what is that? is that like roach eating?
Oct 10 19:16:33 <mranostay> ds2: that looks semi hard
Oct 10 19:23:48 <thurbad> are there working memory profilers such as valgrind for omap3?
Oct 10 19:25:48 <thurbad> or does valgrind now work on omap3? ... it did not last time I checked
Oct 10 19:27:34 <janne> thurbad: valgrind works on omap3 and can run the Libav test suite: http://fate.libav.org/arm-linux-gcc-valgrind/20121010142337
Oct 10 19:29:18 <thurbad> nice.. because that's specifically what I need to test, my sound integration into omapfbplay
Oct 10 19:45:32 <thurbad> hmm, I don't see source or binaries for valgrind itself there
Oct 10 20:23:45 <ds2> mranostay: basic on what i am seeing, the only thing that might be difficult is the center pad
Oct 10 20:24:14 <ds2> cut a hole in the PCB so the chip is at the same level as the PCB, then just tack wires onto the pads...1mm pitch is easily doably by hand
Oct 10 20:24:38 <ds2> OTH, there might be gotchas, hence the reason I am asking
Oct 10 20:30:18 <_av500_> ds2: just run wires to it
Oct 10 20:30:27 <_av500_> steady hand and such
Oct 10 20:30:36 <ds2> yes, that's what I am thinking of
Oct 10 20:30:42 <ds2> you tried it? any gotchas?
Oct 10 20:31:01 <_av500_> not tried
Oct 10 20:31:34 <_av500_> and 1mm is easy
Oct 10 20:31:43 <ds2> yep
Oct 10 20:33:18 <_av500_> once a coworker swapped a component from plcc to qfp
Oct 10 20:33:24 <_av500_> but keept the numbering
Oct 10 20:33:37 <_av500_> too bad that one start on a corner and the other in the middle :)
Oct 10 20:33:45 <_av500_> epic deadbug on the prototype :)
Oct 10 20:33:47 <ds2> oops
Oct 10 20:34:14 <_av500_> luckily it was a 44pin only
Oct 10 20:34:50 <ds2> for the next trick, do that with a 44 ball BGA
Oct 10 20:34:57 <_av500_> right
Oct 10 21:13:37 <mranostay> _av500_: i find a beer improves my soldering skills :)
Oct 10 21:19:36 <aislepathlight> Does anyone know whats going on with the LCD4 capes?
Oct 10 21:21:33 <mru> mranostay: does it really or is it just some kind of beer goggles effect?
Oct 10 21:24:23 <mranostay> probably that
Oct 10 21:26:50 <djlewis> Umm, beer. . .
Oct 10 21:43:46 <Wally> beer what!
Oct 10 21:48:47 <mru> in a glass, preferably
Oct 10 21:49:58 <Wally> :D
Oct 10 21:50:00 <Wally> Pls2givemesome
Oct 10 22:10:05 * mranostay hands mru a Bud Light
Oct 10 22:11:08 <mranostay> or otherwise known as alcohol laced water
Oct 10 22:11:23 <mru> there's alcohol in it?
Oct 10 22:11:27 * mru had not noticed
Oct 10 22:11:48 <mru> besides, there's still real beer in my fridge
Oct 10 22:12:06 * mranostay steals from mru 
Oct 10 22:13:46 <mru> you're welcome to drop by if you're ever in the area
Oct 10 22:18:56 <mranostay> mru: don't you live in the boonies?
Oct 10 22:19:24 <mru> I live in the UK
Oct 10 22:19:37 <mru> in the centre of southampton
Oct 10 22:20:00 * mranostay pulls up map
Oct 10 22:21:31 <mranostay> well i can tell from the fancy way you spelled center :P
Oct 10 22:39:51 <thurbad> damn there appears to be a leak in the ogg file handling
Oct 11 01:09:26 <prpplague> let us all welcome Koenan the coder
Oct 11 01:19:01 * Russ goes and grabs the hd out of the freezer
Oct 11 01:20:23 <prpplague> Russ: microwave next?
Oct 11 01:20:30 <mru> storing some volatile data?
Oct 11 01:20:43 <Russ> hrmph, spin up, but no enumeration yet
Oct 11 01:21:01 <mru> dead drive?
Oct 11 01:24:37 <Russ> ya, my wife and her laptop had a fight
Oct 11 01:24:40 <Russ> she "won"
Oct 11 01:24:50 <Russ> hey, here we go, getting some more data
Oct 11 01:39:02 <mranostay> Russ: er won?
Oct 11 01:40:38 <Russ> mranostay, in the sense that the laptop lost
Oct 11 01:42:06 <mranostay> dropped?
Oct 11 01:44:06 <mranostay> hurled at a wall?
Oct 11 02:17:29 <ds2> fight? must have been very volatile
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