**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 21 02:59:59 2012 Oct 21 06:26:32 <_av500_> gah Oct 21 06:29:43 moo Oct 21 06:47:33 <_av500_> mru: https://github.com/anthonix Oct 21 06:47:36 <_av500_> saw that? Oct 21 06:48:17 cute - as opposed to fftw (west) Oct 21 06:56:04 <_av500_> even has neon Oct 21 06:56:51 <_av500_> ...activities are a holistic representation of your interests and topics of focus... Oct 21 06:56:56 <_av500_> yeah right Oct 21 11:00:36 _av500_: yet another ugly fft Oct 21 14:56:45 Ho ho hum Oct 21 14:58:00 good morning to you too, mr plague Oct 21 14:58:54 Hehe Oct 21 14:59:17 * prpplague is bored to tears at bigandroidbbq Oct 21 14:59:50 * mru ignores it completely Oct 21 14:59:52 Not exactly my type of conference Oct 21 14:59:59 so don't go Oct 21 15:00:22 Pandaboard sponsored event Oct 21 15:03:38 Really rather be home working on my dekatron stuff Oct 21 15:10:42 in other news, gcc on obscure architectures _really_ sucks Oct 21 15:11:41 I have it ignoring an entire statement completely on parisc Oct 21 15:12:04 and the bug seems to have been there since at least 4.3 Oct 21 15:12:07 Hehe Oct 21 15:12:14 Wow Oct 21 15:12:43 hmm, this machine has 4.1 and 4.2 installed as well Oct 21 15:12:54 maybe I should try it with those too Oct 21 15:14:39 yay for buggy compilers. Oct 21 15:15:07 gigo - golden in, garbage out. Oct 21 15:17:29 Hehe Oct 21 15:17:55 oh, and it's a 3-line function Oct 21 15:17:56 emeb_mac: fpga board bringup? Oct 21 15:18:32 prpplague: still holding at "fpga works, need to tweak beaglebone kernel" Oct 21 15:18:52 Ahh Oct 21 15:19:01 too many changes since I was last active and I'm trying to catch up. Oct 21 15:19:52 I need access to I2C2 to talk to the port expander that manages the config/programming Oct 21 15:20:18 but I2C2 appears to be dedicated to talking to the ID EEPROM, so its device node isn't exposed. Oct 21 15:34:13 emeb_mac: you gonna sell the board? Oct 21 15:40:26 also, parisc is backwards in every way possible Oct 21 15:40:34 it's big endian Oct 21 15:40:38 the stack grows up Oct 21 15:40:54 the manual numbers bits in registers from msb to lsb Oct 21 15:41:29 Hehe i hate that Oct 21 15:41:34 assembler syntax has destination as last operand Oct 21 15:42:40 mru: i really should be spending time brushing up my assembly Oct 21 15:43:00 register arguments start in r26 and go _down_ Oct 21 15:43:17 Still havent figured out i am going to handle the tape. Readers for my witch Oct 21 15:45:50 at a glance, 4.3 seems to be the first broken version Oct 21 15:48:01 now attempting to build 4.8 Oct 21 15:48:47 hmm, I'd probably be better off building a cross-compiler at home Oct 21 15:58:41 Hehe Oct 21 15:59:06 that dual 550MHz isn't the speediest of machines... Oct 21 16:11:10 prpplague: I'm not sure what's going to happen with that FPGA board. Oct 21 16:11:15 There was a plan to sell them but that's been kind of sputtering for the last few months so it remains to be seen. Oct 21 16:12:42 right now I just want to get the sw working. Oct 21 16:12:47 <_av500_> it could be an r-pi killer Oct 21 16:13:57 Hehe Oct 21 16:15:00 R-pi is all they are talking about here, basically very few people here have heard of beagle or panda Oct 21 16:20:24 <_av500_> prpplague: these days it needs to have 16 cores at least Oct 21 16:20:36 The power of marketing. Oct 21 16:20:47 <_av500_> yes Oct 21 16:21:18 "We're a charity" "Education" "Cheap - power to the masses" etc Oct 21 16:42:34 <_av500_> i meant that multicore thingy on kickstarter Oct 21 16:55:13 oh yeah. did they hit their mark? Oct 21 16:57:22 they certainly made a ton of noise Oct 21 17:04:44 which was probably the exact thing they wanted. PR via Kickstarter. Oct 21 17:06:58 gm guys Oct 21 17:07:05 morning djlewis Oct 21 17:07:18 after living alone for 20 plus years its not easy to make room for a woman.. Oct 21 17:07:34 heh Oct 21 17:07:45 * djlewis is feeling overwhelmed at the prospect. :) Oct 21 17:07:52 she needs more space than the dogs? Oct 21 17:08:09 fraid so, go figure.. Oct 21 17:08:35 i'll be down to project'n in one room. Oct 21 17:08:49 electronics that is Oct 21 17:08:57 sounds awful Oct 21 17:09:44 * djlewis is bout to discover his real ability for sharing ... almost scarey. Oct 21 17:10:42 good thing I am into smaller electronice these daye :) Oct 21 17:11:01 <_av500_> djlewis: good luck Oct 21 17:11:09 _av500_: he'll need it Oct 21 17:11:11 <_av500_> with the electrocnics too Oct 21 17:11:12 djlewis: you'll have to move everything out to the observatory. Oct 21 17:11:30 <_av500_> emeb_mac: you mean her shoe storage room now Oct 21 17:11:35 lol Oct 21 17:11:41 * djlewis night build a shop under the observatory Oct 21 17:11:52 s night/might Oct 21 17:11:54 what is it with shoes? Oct 21 17:12:23 i even keep some I cant wear or that are wore out thinking I can use the leather or something :() Oct 21 17:12:30 emeb_mac: they'd have as many of other bits of clothing too if they had the space Oct 21 17:12:52 Yeah, she already asked how much in my closet I actually wear Oct 21 17:12:58 <_av500_> lol Oct 21 17:13:03 mru: I know this for a fact. Oct 21 17:13:17 there's a lot in my wardrobe I don't use often Oct 21 17:13:25 should get rid of some really Oct 21 17:13:31 <_av500_> spare cables? Oct 21 17:13:34 same Oct 21 17:13:43 _av500_: those too Oct 21 17:13:53 I had some shoes I rarely wore. The rubber soles disintegrated and merged with the carpet. what a mess. Oct 21 17:14:02 spare cables are hanging in my upstairs closet Oct 21 17:14:23 where i'll be hanging soon Oct 21 17:15:39 <_av500_> djlewis: it wont be all bad Oct 21 17:16:43 * emeb_mac waits for "the other shoe to drop" Oct 21 17:20:58 got me on edge... Oct 21 17:21:28 naw, she appears to be all good so far. or I wouldnt go to the trouble. Oct 21 17:22:20 still its good to have my irc pals help to scare the living hell out of me :)) Oct 21 17:23:33 * djlewis goes back to working on making that scarce space.. Oct 21 17:24:29 <_av500_> one more "call me maybe" and i'll cull these kids and start anew Oct 21 17:25:59 * mru has managed to avoid hearing that song Oct 21 17:29:45 <_av500_> i managed to steer them to Yello now Oct 21 17:32:19 yellow snow? Oct 21 17:33:57 <_av500_> Solid Pleasure Oct 21 17:34:32 liquid pleasure from age 18 only Oct 21 17:34:35 where the huskies go? Oct 21 17:35:18 Oh Yeah is timeless. Oct 21 17:35:49 and probably overplayed, but what can you do? Oct 21 17:44:11 chickachickAH! Oct 21 19:11:31 * mranostay scrolls up Oct 21 19:11:35 * mranostay regrets it Oct 21 19:18:53 hehee Oct 21 19:20:44 * djlewis returns to upsetting the dust that hasn't been disturbed in many years. Oct 21 19:22:47 djlewis: careful, you're messing with dark forces Oct 21 20:14:33 the google tubes are clogged it seems Oct 21 20:18:16 * mranostay blames mru Oct 21 23:19:44 mranostay: go on, blame the troll Oct 21 23:19:49 everything is the troll's fault Oct 21 23:26:15 hehe Oct 21 23:26:27 * prpplague quotes mru Oct 21 23:29:01 26 + 26 = 54 that :) Oct 21 23:58:13 never heard of non-linear arithmetic? Oct 22 00:18:18 mru: man i wish i had recorded the folks coming up the panda booth this weekend Oct 22 00:18:39 mru: my favorite one was "is this a super expensive Raspberry-Pi?" Oct 22 00:20:48 hmm Oct 22 00:24:36 hehe Oct 22 00:25:01 there are other arm boards now for US$25 Oct 22 00:25:14 beaglebone is among the highest priced, it seems Oct 22 00:26:11 bone is much less than that Oct 22 00:31:34 * mranostay talks in his apartment like a madman Oct 22 00:32:35 prpplague: did you track them down in the parking lot? Oct 22 00:34:17 it's small .. it must be copying the r:pi... right? Oct 22 00:36:22 * mdp sees trolls Oct 22 00:37:12 trolls? on my irc? Oct 22 00:37:14 no way Oct 22 00:38:00 * _troll_ lurks Oct 22 00:44:46 i was right Oct 22 01:04:38 mdp: don't feed the trools Oct 22 01:04:43 *trolls even Oct 22 01:08:09 mranostay: speaking of trolls..i'm reading exynos chromebook details and wondering why people don't carry around an rpi, kbd, lcd, and battery? seems simpler and cheaper to use rpi Oct 22 01:08:46 Um, cases. Oct 22 01:09:50 mdp: that exonys is a dual A15, right? Oct 22 01:09:59 yes Oct 22 01:10:11 so 16 execution units in total Oct 22 01:10:20 you'd need 16 rpi to match that Oct 22 01:10:57 and asthe team has been sharing publicly, like x86 chromebooks,there's a developermode so you can load whatever os you want. Oct 22 01:11:38 heh Oct 22 01:11:51 neither the weight nor the battery life are significantly better than my laptop Oct 22 01:11:54 chrome books are locked down? Oct 22 01:11:58 why should I get one of those? Oct 22 01:12:12 and everything else is much worse Oct 22 01:12:19 mru, quit trying to confuse me with the facts Oct 22 01:12:43 mru: 16 r-pi cluster!?!? Oct 22 01:12:45 mranostay, no. you hard me wrong :) Oct 22 01:12:58 heard Oct 22 01:13:16 mranostay: doesn't sound exactly practical Oct 22 01:13:26 what with them not having reliable networking and all Oct 22 01:14:24 mru: who needs that? :P Oct 22 01:16:12 you can't beat $25. i heard a guy is running Unity on Rpi. my sisters friends brothers uncles dentist is using it for his desktop Oct 22 01:16:34 of course it's not actually $25 Oct 22 01:16:37 not at work right :) Oct 22 01:16:46 it's $35 for the "usable" model Oct 22 01:16:49 heh Oct 22 01:16:51 + shipping Oct 22 01:17:00 more facts Oct 22 01:17:04 mru: coworker said it cost him $45 Oct 22 01:17:06 *yawn* Oct 22 01:17:11 and it still doesn't work Oct 22 01:17:22 he got 3 for some weird reason Oct 22 01:17:40 weird college grads with a money to blow :P Oct 22 01:17:46 that is weird Oct 22 01:18:59 mranostay, you should tell him he could have gotten 7 ARM boards for the price of 1 RPi Oct 22 01:19:20 if i want to waste money it is going to be on hookers and blow Oct 22 01:19:29 did i say that out loud? :P Oct 22 01:19:46 mdp: did those TI launchpad gets shipped out? Oct 22 01:20:03 you used to mumble that a lot when we sat in the same office too ;) Oct 22 01:20:38 mranostay: i dont have mine but others do Oct 22 01:21:05 it is a promo price, of course Oct 22 01:21:21 yeah well they charged the promo price to my card :) Oct 22 01:21:35 a Due is $45 :) Oct 22 01:29:47 mdp: so brushing up on gangnam style or you have other progress? Oct 22 01:30:14 making progress now...it'll be a long two weeks Oct 22 01:30:37 i may have to do that or karaoke if I fail Oct 22 01:32:23 hopefully tomorrow i'm done tweaking the pru 65xx bus emulation and can work mostly on the vqueue hacks Oct 22 01:32:47 mdp: i showed the hitler remix to a friend she wasn't impressed :) Oct 22 01:33:51 bah Oct 22 01:34:37 this all gpmc, correct? Oct 22 01:34:42 no Oct 22 01:36:10 i was originally doing an sram on gpmc for the 6502 memory and then realized that emulating 65xx bus allowed better virtio reuse Oct 22 01:41:46 because dual port srams are expensive and I was too cheap to get one Oct 22 01:44:26 what is the BOM cost so far? Oct 22 01:44:41 4 Oct 22 01:45:39 4 what? Oct 22 01:45:45 Yes. Oct 22 01:45:57 4 ghjfes Oct 22 01:46:12 Where a ghjfe is one quarter of the current BOM cost. Oct 22 01:48:55 someone needs to sober up :) Oct 22 01:50:10 mranostay: Totally sober here. Oct 22 01:57:34 ok that is more scary :P Oct 22 02:03:06 mranostay: being sober scares you? Oct 22 02:03:33 mranostay, $8 Oct 22 02:03:49 mru: no making 'ghjfe' up sober does :P Oct 22 02:05:00 how about a 'ghnrhl'? Oct 22 02:05:05 * mru made that up just now Oct 22 02:05:05 mranostay: How is that scary? Oct 22 02:05:34 mru: is that a 1/8 BOM cost? :P Oct 22 02:05:41 or a 'mrgbfn'? Oct 22 02:07:09 mranostay: next you'll probably ask when it will be ready :) Oct 22 02:10:47 mdp: it'll be available in a few snkfls Oct 22 02:12:39 for asfdsf price? Oct 22 02:14:36 mranostay: now you're making stuff up... does that mean you're not sober? Oct 22 02:15:03 completely sober Oct 22 02:15:36 me too, haven't been drinking for over 3h Oct 22 02:15:55 although heading to the pub right now to meet an old EA guy :P Oct 22 02:16:05 sunday i have to be somewhat responsible Oct 22 02:16:45 just remember, everything is best in moderation Oct 22 02:17:09 mru: ok mom :) Oct 22 02:17:14 including responsibility Oct 22 02:17:38 that is more like it Oct 22 02:17:49 I did say 'everything' Oct 22 02:21:33 I'm sure mru has been called a lot of things...but I don't think "mom" is one of them. Oct 22 02:29:20 hello **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Oct 22 03:00:00 2012