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Oct 26 04:35:43 <JViz> does the pin configuration(in/out pull up/down) matter for a device if the pins are in the right mode?
Oct 26 05:34:32 <mranostay> JViz: right mode? :)
Oct 26 05:34:52 <mranostay> you can totally screw youself if you don't want you are doing
Oct 26 06:13:10 <ds2> can we please shoot people who insist on sending large attachments?
Oct 26 06:14:21 <JViz> mranostay: pin mux mode 0-7
Oct 26 06:18:08 <mranostay> ds2: i always down for a good shooting
Oct 26 06:20:10 <mranostay> is it sane to want patchs pushed to git to a develop branch to get apply automagically to other xyz-vendor-branch?
Oct 26 06:20:15 * mranostay starts the poll
Oct 26 06:20:49 * mranostay thinks his must be some retarded thing perforce or clearcase does 
Oct 26 06:33:21 <mranostay> hi mdp
Oct 26 06:42:54 <_av500_> gm
Oct 26 06:45:13 <mranostay> _av500_: how is my favorite troll today?
Oct 26 06:46:26 <mranostay> _av500_: what day you get in BCN?
Oct 26 06:47:07 <_av500_> ?
Oct 26 06:47:18 <mranostay> _av500_: for E-ELC
Oct 26 06:48:19 <_av500_> sunday evening
Oct 26 10:36:56 <woglinde> quiet friday
Oct 26 11:37:47 <bradfa> mranostay, PMIC is my favoritest of all time, but close behind it is the U8 regulator on bone!
Oct 26 12:37:36 <av500> mru: maybe servers will get energy ratings like light bulbs or fridges?
Oct 26 12:58:53 <Arno__> Try to cross compile "top" (out of procps) - but fail. make lib64=lib CC=arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc gives: top.c:28: fatal error: curses.h: No such file or directory  while adding the dir with  make CC=arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/include  cc1: warning: include location "/usr/include" is unsafe for cross-compilation top.c:3385: error: impossible constraint in 'asm'  I have no clue how to solve this issue. Can you help? Wh
Oct 26 13:00:53 <av500> you are cross compiling
Oct 26 13:01:00 <av500> so you cannot pass your host /usr/include
Oct 26 13:02:01 <av500> you need a cross compile ncurses lib
Oct 26 13:02:11 <av500> and that would come with the proper headers too
Oct 26 13:06:48 <Arno__> I have the source for the libncurse on my PC. So they arn't compiled together?
Oct 26 13:07:17 <Arno__> With source I mean the dev package in ubuntu
Oct 26 13:08:49 <Arno__> So if I need libs to cross compile - what is the best way to generate them? I could imagine that some tools need some libs - that can become very painful ...
Oct 26 13:13:35 <bradfa> Arno__, yes, it's painful :)
Oct 26 13:13:42 <bradfa> if you're on debian, xapt is helpful
Oct 26 13:13:51 <bradfa> multilib was supposed to fix this
Oct 26 13:14:05 <bradfa> sort of
Oct 26 13:14:30 <bradfa> Arno__, dev packages usually are just for the host arch, you need dev packages for the target arch
Oct 26 13:15:08 <keesj> Arno__: alternative is to not cross-compile and compile while on the target(or get the libs from the target and link against that)
Oct 26 13:19:34 <Arno__> ok, just for the blind of us - just tried compiled the sources of ncurses with / ./configure CC=arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc --host=arm / make ->
Oct 26 13:20:40 <av500> Arno__: normally you would use some kind of (cross) build system
Oct 26 13:20:44 <av500> like angstrom/OE
Oct 26 13:20:47 <av500> or buildroot
Oct 26 13:20:49 <av500> or others
Oct 26 13:21:01 <av500> of course you can compile all needed stuff by hand
Oct 26 13:21:49 <Arno__> Oh I see - it will use wrong linker - thats wyh this fails : /usr/bin/g++  -o demo ../objects/demo.o -L.. ...
Oct 26 13:22:48 <Arno__> What I have is codesourcery - so compiler and standard libs are there
Oct 26 13:24:51 <Arno__> What do I have to set while configure, that not only compiler, but also the right linker or g++ is used ?
Oct 26 13:26:56 <woglinde> arno thats why we have in angstroem external_toolchain stuff, its not perfect yet but should work
Oct 26 13:27:09 <av500> and even an internal toolchain
Oct 26 13:27:19 <woglinde> yes sure
Oct 26 13:27:36 <woglinde> *g* but he talked about codesourcery
Oct 26 13:29:33 <koen> harry potter toolchains
Oct 26 13:29:50 <Arno__> ?
Oct 26 13:30:25 <woglinde> koen *g*
Oct 26 13:31:05 <Arno__> :(
Oct 26 13:34:47 <woglinde> till later
Oct 26 13:35:15 <Arno__> bye
Oct 26 13:39:37 <mdp> mmm...internal trees
Oct 26 13:44:57 <Arno__> ./configure --host=arm-none-linux-gnueabi --target=arm-non-linux-gnueabi ??
Oct 26 13:57:19 <bradfa> Arno__, host is your host arch, target is your target arch, build usually is the same as host arch unless you're building a canadian cross compiler
Oct 26 13:57:48 <bradfa> or building a target arch compiler
Oct 26 14:03:45 <Arno__> What would be the right setting if I compile on a PC for embedded? Just the target setting?
Oct 26 14:05:05 <av500> Arno__: google "cross compiling"
Oct 26 14:05:13 <av500> you are not the first one to attempt that
Oct 26 14:06:30 <Arno__> you are right
Oct 26 14:45:15 <woglinde> re
Oct 26 14:51:22 <av500> er
Oct 26 14:58:00 <woglinde> be
Oct 26 15:51:38 <mdp> bradfa: ping
Oct 26 15:52:13 <bradfa> mdp, pong
Oct 26 15:52:38 <mdp> hi bradfa, I was using your pin tables to look over something on my 6502 design..
Oct 26 15:53:00 <mdp> and I noticed that pru mode5/6 settings are missing
Oct 26 15:53:10 <mdp> if that a "patches are welcome" situation?
Oct 26 15:53:13 <mdp> s/if/is/
Oct 26 15:53:20 <bradfa> yes
Oct 26 15:53:51 <mdp> ok, can I just complain the the community hasn't fixed this yet instead?
Oct 26 15:54:03 <mdp> "The Community(tm)"
Oct 26 15:54:15 <bradfa> mdp, you can, but I'm pretty sure that'll just spark comments from the peanut gallery :)
Oct 26 15:54:22 <mdp> ;)
Oct 26 15:55:16 <mdp> I had to rewire a couple things and the nature of the pru pin routing and general availability was driving me batshit crazy
Oct 26 15:55:50 <mdp> I'll put it on my list
Oct 26 15:56:01 <mdp> the ever-growing list
Oct 26 15:57:48 <mdp> bradfa, I owe you a retest too
Oct 26 15:58:20 <bradfa> mdp, for uarts?
Oct 26 15:58:27 <mdp> yeah
Oct 26 15:58:42 <bradfa> v4 went to the list, also in my github if that's easier for you
Oct 26 15:58:46 <mdp> I'm already "deployed" with the v2/v3 or whatever series here ;)
Oct 26 15:59:11 <bradfa> there's a v5 in github but I'm not going to send it to the list unless someone yells about CONFIG_SERIAL_MULTI and CONFIG_ENV_OVERWRITE, those are the only changes
Oct 26 15:59:42 <mdp> ok, yeah, I saw the couple comments go by to get you to v4..will try that in a bit
Oct 26 15:59:50 <bradfa> thanks! :)
Oct 26 16:01:13 <mdp> meanwhile I can continue wishing we had 16 completely selectable in/out pins for each pru...I love wishes
Oct 26 16:03:58 <mdp> apologies for violating the normal friday policy here
Oct 26 16:04:16 <av500> its fine
Oct 26 16:04:22 <av500> we had 2 fridays already here this week
Oct 26 16:04:30 <av500> dunno if I can handle one more
Oct 26 16:04:31 <mdp> *whew*
Oct 26 16:04:48 <mdp> imagine if we were sitting in the same office
Oct 26 16:04:52 <mdp> lots of fridays
Oct 26 16:04:58 <av500> eternal friday
Oct 26 16:06:55 <mdp> if only we could get rid of the customers and still have revenue...things would be better
Oct 26 16:07:23 * av500 puts on sinking hat
Oct 26 16:08:55 <mru> mdp: +1
Oct 26 17:15:11 <devfunks> Anyone ever experience beaglebone getting stuck on systemd-fsck during boot?
Oct 26 17:16:01 <devfunks> I am using a rootfs from http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/narcissus/
Oct 26 17:16:31 <mranostay> heh no
Oct 26 17:16:42 <mranostay> bad sd card?
Oct 26 17:16:56 <devfunks> maybe
Oct 26 17:17:02 <devfunks> let me give another one a shot
Oct 26 17:18:31 <emeb> hmmm... Parallella kickstarter has 29 hours to go and is $92k short
Oct 26 17:19:24 <emeb> they've got 28 hours to do it. It's gone up $15k in the last 20 min I've been watching. About $45k/h, so at that rate they'll make it.
Oct 26 17:20:55 <mranostay> emeb: you could donate $92k :P
Oct 26 17:21:18 <emeb> I don't think that would get past the finance committee.
Oct 26 17:52:11 <_av500_> kickstarters are like ebay auctions
Oct 26 17:52:15 <_av500_> it all happens at the end
Oct 26 17:52:40 <_av500_> except when they are totally out of whack
Oct 26 17:52:46 <_av500_> then they fund in a day
Oct 26 17:53:42 <_av500_> what the west coast time now?
Oct 26 17:53:55 <_av500_> 11ush?
Oct 26 17:53:57 <_av500_> ish
Oct 26 17:54:11 <devfunks> ya
Oct 26 17:54:32 <_av500_> good, keep at it
Oct 26 17:54:49 <devfunks> are you writing this from happy hour?
Oct 26 17:55:04 <_av500_> hmm
Oct 26 17:55:14 <Crofton|work> the parallella one is madness
Oct 26 17:55:35 <mru> how much money are they trying to raise?
Oct 26 17:56:30 <Crofton|work> do not watch the latest video
Oct 26 17:56:41 <_av500_> it has cyberspectrum?
Oct 26 17:56:44 <mru> I have not watched any video
Oct 26 17:57:06 <Crofton|work> apparently the latest way to raise fund is show ubuntu running on an arm, display on a tv, with a kid googling
Oct 26 17:57:16 <Crofton|work> no content about the interesting part f the project
Oct 26 17:57:24 <_av500_> and yelling "parallel, parallel, parallel"
Oct 26 17:57:47 <mranostay> devfunks: it is always happy hour in Germany
Oct 26 17:57:58 <_av500_> it could be a classroom full of britich kids
Oct 26 17:58:01 <mru> I get the impression it's a small group of inexperienced amateurs trying to build on a shoestring budget a sophisticated SoC an established semiconductor company would need years to produce
Oct 26 17:58:02 <_av500_> brtitish
Oct 26 17:59:30 * _av500_ goes to pickup a kid in fact
Oct 26 18:01:00 <emeb> Crofton|work: they're trying to get $750k for a maskset. Only $80k short at this point.
Oct 26 18:02:07 <emeb> the $99 devboard that they're promising would be a smoking deal all by itself.
Oct 26 18:02:34 <emeb> w/ a Xilinx zynq chip - digilent sells a board with that for > $300.
Oct 26 18:04:58 <Crofton|work> ah, so they the need the money to make themaks for the interesting bit
Oct 26 18:05:24 <emeb> pretty much.
Oct 26 18:05:53 <emeb> I don't see how they're going to fund the maskset *and* all the devboards for that amount though.
Oct 26 18:06:16 <Crofton|work> yeah, that would be my concern
Oct 26 18:08:49 <emeb> Considering qty pricing on Xilinx Zynq chips is > $300/ea those devboards are a loss @ $99.
Oct 26 18:09:45 <emeb> correction: >$200/ea @ 1000pcs qty.
Oct 26 18:31:12 <Crofton|work> I fail to understand
Oct 26 18:46:48 <emeb> Crofton|work: what don't you understand? For $99 pledge, Adapteva is promising a devboard with a Xilinx FPGA on it that currently lists for >$200, plus other goodies based on their own IP.
Oct 26 18:48:25 <emeb> Seems like there's a math problem there to me, but then I'm not an entrepreneur. :)
Oct 26 18:48:26 <Crofton|work> I do not understand how tehy will deliver
Oct 26 18:48:33 <emeb> Nor I.
Oct 26 18:51:16 <Crofton|work> I think I understand
Oct 26 18:51:38 <Crofton|work> for 700K I buy a harme for a year, then apologize for failing
Oct 26 18:52:03 <emeb> It's happened before on KS.
Oct 26 18:56:57 <ssvb> emeb: don't FPGAs generally have huge discounts for education, etc.? maybe they somehow managed to arrange a deal?
Oct 26 18:59:17 <bradfa> General pricing for FPGAs is take the price Digikey shows and divide by anywhere between 3 and 10, depending on volume and other agreements
Oct 26 18:59:53 <bradfa> Digikey shows $250-ish for 1 Zynq, so in volume they'll be a bit less than $99
Oct 26 19:00:14 <_av500_> emeb: aint it about delivering their SOC?
Oct 26 19:00:30 <_av500_> the adapteva super duper?
Oct 26 19:03:18 <ssvb> _av500_: I guess they need FPGA as a glue between their chip and ARM, and it does not look like they are adding FPGA as just an extra bonus feature
Oct 26 19:13:12 <emeb> ssvb: It's possible that they've got backing from Xilinx and they're getting the Zynq parts for a good price.
Oct 26 19:15:27 <djlewis> emeb: New Lecroy scopes with 12-Bit vertical res.
Oct 26 19:15:36 <emeb> but at the moment, they're on the hook for ~3000 of these devboards, and assuming a low-ball BOM of $250, they're $450k in the hole before they've even funded the chip development.
Oct 26 19:15:54 <djlewis> ouch
Oct 26 19:16:18 <emeb> _av500_: That's what you'd think, but it looks like most of the KS cash is going to building devboards at the moment.
Oct 26 19:19:00 <emeb> djlewis: cool. 4k points would smooth things out nicely.
Oct 26 19:19:58 <emeb> bradfa: the $227 pricing mentioned was based on Avnet's 1000 qty pricing.
Oct 26 19:22:41 <bradfa> emeb, That's not an accurate price then, if Digikey will sell me 1 for $250, the 1k qty pricing isn't 4227
Oct 26 19:22:52 <bradfa> s/4227/$227/
Oct 26 19:23:18 <bradfa> I'd venture the 1k pricing they're getting puts the Zynq under $50
Oct 26 19:23:30 <bradfa> probably well under $50
Oct 26 19:23:42 * prpplague would disagree with that
Oct 26 19:24:02 <prpplague> most SoC pricing doesnt break until after 24K units
Oct 26 19:24:14 <bradfa> prpplague, fpga pricing breaks quite early in my experience
Oct 26 19:24:28 <bradfa> high end fpgas don't go in high volume products
Oct 26 19:24:46 <prpplague> but doesn't the zynq include an arm core?
Oct 26 19:24:59 * prpplague tries to refresh his memory about the zynq
Oct 26 19:25:01 <bradfa> prpplague, yeah, but $10 for the ARM core is reasonable
Oct 26 19:25:07 <bradfa> even in low qty
Oct 26 19:25:09 <bradfa> I'd bet
Oct 26 19:25:15 <prpplague> bradfa: if it was just the arm core
Oct 26 19:25:35 <bradfa> prpplague, I doubt the $99 price point makes them money
Oct 26 19:25:36 <prpplague> bradfa: but when you start doing on die integration, the amount of work goes up, as well as the costs
Oct 26 19:25:49 <bradfa> I'm just saying the Zynq isn't >$200 for them, probably
Oct 26 19:26:01 <bradfa> prpplague, how much are the FPGAs with PowerPC inside?
Oct 26 19:26:09 <bradfa> Xilinx has hard powerpc cores in some fpgas
Oct 26 19:26:18 <bradfa> older stuff
Oct 26 19:26:30 * prpplague is not familiar with powerpc pricing, but _is_ familiar with ARM pricing
Oct 26 19:27:29 <emeb> bradfa: Old Virtex4 parts had PPC cores and were in the $100-$200 range before they got eclipsed by V5 w/o the hard cores.
Oct 26 19:28:42 <bradfa> emeb, ok, so maybe I'm talking out of my butt...
Oct 26 19:28:45 <emeb> But essentially what you're saying is that Avnet is quoting a price that's ~4x higher than what you actually pay if you close the door and work out a deal.
Oct 26 19:28:47 <bradfa> could happen :)
Oct 26 19:28:52 <bradfa> emeb, yes
Oct 26 19:28:54 <bradfa> that
Oct 26 19:29:24 <emeb> And in the FPGA world that's not completely unlikely.
Oct 26 19:31:27 <mdp> summary: this KS is a risky investment?
Oct 26 19:32:47 <emeb> My fundamental argument is that they're on the hook for ~3000 devboards that they're not making money on. That's eating up enough of the funding that they're going to have a challenge to afford the chip development.
Oct 26 19:33:16 <emeb> So yeah. Risky.
Oct 26 19:35:52 <devfunks> they probably have investors outside of kickstarter
Oct 26 19:37:01 <emeb> Likely even.
Oct 26 19:42:07 <bradfa> mdp, I'm not buying one, would prefer to use $99 on Beagles or Arduinos
Oct 26 19:42:20 <mdp> same here
Oct 26 19:42:59 <djlewis> four arduino's 1 beagle
Oct 26 19:43:02 <djlewis> or
Oct 26 19:43:04 <mdp> bradfa, that's 14 6502s
Oct 26 19:43:22 <mdp> just saying...
Oct 26 19:43:27 <devfunks> or beer
Oct 26 19:43:33 <mdp> friday!
Oct 26 19:44:02 <djlewis> or 10 new arudino's programmable with a basic compiler :P
Oct 26 19:47:33 <bradfa> or 20 lunch boxes!
Oct 26 19:47:56 * bradfa 's lunch box is still in the static bag
Oct 26 19:48:19 <bradfa> well, it's friday and almost beer o'clock, cyas!
Oct 26 19:50:34 <emeb> 10 STM32 Discoveries!
Oct 26 19:52:15 <mranostay> 40 beers!
Oct 26 20:03:18 * djlewis will raise you 2 lunch boxes, 2 Discoveries and a arduino R3
Oct 26 20:17:43 <_av500_> emeb: it says for 99$: You get everything in the SUPPORTER reward and an Epiphany-III based Parallella board
Oct 26 20:17:57 <_av500_> epiphany is their chip, no?
Oct 26 20:18:28 <_av500_> ah, there is that zync too
Oct 26 20:18:54 <_av500_> this makes no sense
Oct 26 20:19:00 <_av500_> why the fpga and the 16-core?
Oct 26 20:22:38 <emeb> probably so they have something that will run a real OS to talk to their weird stuff?
Oct 26 20:23:28 <_av500_> emeb: yes, so why not buy a cheap arm core
Oct 26 20:23:33 <_av500_> why the fpga?
Oct 26 20:23:52 <_av500_> ah, because that would force them to desing a full SOC
Oct 26 20:24:04 <_av500_> this way the offload all hte ugly glue to the fpga
Oct 26 20:24:08 <emeb> good question. Maybe they've got strange interfacing requirements? Still, a cheap external FPGA could do that.
Oct 26 20:24:38 <_av500_> in order to develop for their chip, al they need is it on a pcie
Oct 26 20:24:45 <_av500_> but that is not sexy
Oct 26 20:25:05 <_av500_> so they build a 16+1 core r-pi
Oct 26 20:25:54 <mru> it needs 16 binary blobs to boot?
Oct 26 20:25:55 <emeb> a lot about that doesn't make sense, given what they're willing to reveal.
Oct 26 20:27:53 <emeb> they'll probably design their cores into the FPGA fabric so that when the silicon has bugs they can still ship.
Oct 26 20:31:57 <joelagnel> koen, i fixed the appended dtb patch to apply
Oct 26 20:32:07 <joelagnel> sending pull req now with the audio stuff
Oct 26 20:55:23 <georgem> Anyone else having 0003-ARM-CUSTOM-Build-a-uImage-with-dtb-already-appended.patch fail to apply on beaglebone-3.7?
Oct 26 20:55:42 <Tartarus> Aw, don't append your dtb
Oct 26 20:55:44 <Tartarus> just pass it along
Oct 26 20:56:23 <georgem> I'm just trying to run patch.sh, figured it should probably complete without errors.
Oct 26 20:56:58 * mranostay bangs head
Oct 26 20:57:19 <mru> desk shrugs
Oct 26 20:57:59 <Tartarus> georgem: Need a bit more context then to help I guess, but don't append your dtb, just pass it on through
Oct 26 20:58:20 <Tartarus> And if you're using a U-Boot that doesn't support device trees for am335x, upgrade to mainline v2012.10 release
Oct 26 21:00:24 <georgem> Tartarus: I'm just trying to run patch.sh from the 3.7 branch of git://github.com/beagleboard/kernel.git. It tries to apply that patch I mentioned and fails.
Oct 26 21:01:57 <georgem> I'll start over from scratch and see if the same thing happens.
Oct 26 21:15:07 <mranostay> Russ: howdy
Oct 26 21:15:19 <Russ> howdy
Oct 26 21:15:33 <Russ> finally ditched wireless and got a nice bump in connection speed
Oct 26 21:15:38 <Russ> http://i.imgur.com/Od8WU.png
Oct 26 21:16:20 <_av500_> dug a trench a ran a cable?
Oct 26 21:17:02 <mranostay> start the DDoSing!
Oct 26 21:17:09 <Russ> lots of cable pulling
Oct 26 21:17:17 <mru> _av500_: he could be sending terabyte drives by bike messenger
Oct 26 21:17:36 <mru> you can get amazing bandwidths that way
Oct 26 21:17:43 <mru> latency is a bitch though
Oct 26 21:17:47 <mranostay> hehe
Oct 26 21:17:48 <Russ> a van full of blu-rays
Oct 26 21:18:09 <mru> I suspect hard drives have higher density
Oct 26 21:18:24 <mru> a bluray is only 50G
Oct 26 21:18:35 <mranostay> smaller
Oct 26 21:18:45 <mranostay> really?
Oct 26 21:18:55 <Russ> probably lighter
Oct 26 21:19:10 <Russ> hrm, maybe not
Oct 26 21:20:21 <mru> a bluray disk is 120mm diameter and ~1mm thick
Oct 26 21:20:53 <_av500_> mru: using a tube with that diameter that would be a hell of a data conduit
Oct 26 21:21:06 <mru> in drivermaker's measures, 20 of them hold a terabyte
Oct 26 21:21:07 <_av500_> stuff it with blurays
Oct 26 21:21:18 <mru> that's larger than a 1TB hard drive
Oct 26 21:21:31 <mranostay> volume wise?
Oct 26 21:21:37 <mru> and there are drives much much higher capacity these days
Oct 26 21:21:50 <mru> mranostay: by my estimate, yes
Oct 26 21:22:09 <_av500_> one could send hard drive platters
Oct 26 21:22:17 <_av500_> no need for the eletronics to travel
Oct 26 21:23:41 <mru> _av500_: platters like these? https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Y3MXWWiI83Q/UFn51LDeX1I/AAAAAAAAClw/3r3x6l_aucw/s919/2012-09-18_15-03-34_788.jpg
Oct 26 21:24:04 <mranostay> _av500_: er isn't alignment a bitch on the other end?
Oct 26 21:24:48 <Russ> mranostay, single platter laptop drives
Oct 26 21:25:29 <_av500_> mranostay: why?
Oct 26 21:25:34 <_av500_> we send stuff to mars
Oct 26 21:25:46 <thurbad> we crash into mars occasionally too
Oct 26 21:25:48 <_av500_> we faked a perfect moon landing
Oct 26 21:25:53 <_av500_> we can aling a platter
Oct 26 21:26:00 <mru> _av500_: packet loss rate to mars is pretty bad though
Oct 26 21:26:12 <Russ> thurbad, that's just to show mars we mean business
Oct 26 21:26:19 <thurbad> lol
Oct 26 21:26:29 <_av500_> +1
Oct 26 21:27:03 <_av500_> nuke from orbit first, take rock sample later
Oct 26 21:27:18 <mru> wow, this planet is really radioactive
Oct 26 21:27:26 <_av500_> wonder why
Oct 26 21:27:27 <thurbad> .... nope no life here
Oct 26 21:27:33 <_av500_> lets move on
Oct 26 21:27:36 <_av500_> next!
Oct 26 21:29:18 * mranostay hurls gamma rays at mru 
Oct 26 21:29:56 * mru dons lead foil hat
Oct 26 21:30:05 * _av500_ hurls himself into bed
Oct 26 21:30:11 <mru> bed crumbles
Oct 26 21:32:53 * mranostay makes some neutrons and fires at mru 
Oct 26 22:44:52 <Totti> hello
Oct 26 22:45:06 <Totti> anybody is here?
Oct 26 22:52:32 <Totti> exit
Oct 26 23:24:53 <mranostay> heh
Oct 26 23:33:15 <emeb> huh
Oct 26 23:33:36 <mru> hah
Oct 26 23:34:15 <Russ> truly the three horsemen of the troll apocalypse
Oct 26 23:34:27 <mranostay> i am not a troll!
Oct 26 23:34:59 <emeb> I might be, but I'm not saying for certain.
Oct 26 23:35:10 <_troll_> I'm not
Oct 26 23:35:17 <mranostay> hmmmm
Oct 26 23:35:27 <emeb> "Why do you contradict people?"
Oct 26 23:35:46 <mru> contradiction is just a state of mind
Oct 26 23:36:07 <mru> ask schrödinger's cat
Oct 26 23:36:19 <mru> emeb must be schrödinger's troll
Oct 26 23:38:06 <emeb> I contradict myself until you lift the lid on the box.
Oct 26 23:39:48 <mranostay> :<>]
Oct 27 00:38:53 <Crankstrom> BB Xm autologin not working - just hangs there - any way to CTRL- something to exit display mode on bootup and go to command line?
Oct 27 00:58:47 <mranostay> \o/
Oct 27 01:00:01 <mru> try escape meta alt control shift
Oct 27 01:00:11 <mru> no wait, that launches the editor
Oct 27 01:08:10 <mranostay> beer time is almost upon us!
Oct 27 01:08:23 <mru> almost? it's 2am...
Oct 27 01:08:48 <mranostay> why are you not blacked out?
Oct 27 01:09:00 <mru> where's the fun in that?
Oct 27 01:10:24 <mranostay> it sure is fun waking up the next morning and seeing the people you drunk texted :)
Oct 27 01:11:19 <mru> I don't tend to do that
Oct 27 01:12:36 <mranostay> i've finally have learned to handle my alcohol with years of practice though
Oct 27 01:17:07 <mranostay> mru: can i put that as a LinkedIn skill?
Oct 27 01:17:18 <mru> drunk texting?
Oct 27 01:17:49 <mranostay> mru: beer
Oct 27 01:27:26 <Crankstrom> no combination of escape meta alt control shift worked (that are the permutations on that?)
Oct 27 02:25:32 <blazingice> i'm trying to compile u-boot for my beagleboard xm, but when i copy u-boot-2012.07 onto my debian-wheezy image, i get a "ramdisk image or corrupt or invalid" error
Oct 27 02:25:54 <blazingice> if i use the u-boot from the debian image, everything works nicely
Oct 27 02:26:17 <blazingice> oh, sorry, "Wrong Ramdisk Image Format", then "Ramdisk image is corrupt or invalid"
Oct 27 02:26:28 <blazingice> any thoughts?
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