**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 02 03:00:00 2012 Nov 02 03:07:17 * mranostay does more mirror talking Nov 02 03:07:28 hehe Nov 02 03:07:31 mranostay: relax Nov 02 03:07:35 mranostay: you'll be fine Nov 02 03:11:27 mmm Leffe Nov 02 03:20:16 prpplague: so can you get rum in Spain? Nov 02 03:20:23 don't want you getting DTs :) Nov 02 03:20:29 hehe Nov 02 03:20:33 and that isn't device tree :) Nov 02 03:20:34 mranostay: beer will do Nov 02 03:23:44 prpplague: when you fly out? Nov 02 03:24:04 mranostay: saturday Nov 02 03:24:14 mranostay: dfw to mia, mia to bcn Nov 02 03:26:23 never been in MIA airport Nov 02 03:26:27 how is that one? Nov 02 03:26:51 * mranostay loves living next to a real airport for once Nov 02 03:31:07 prpplague: lucky you getting a "direct" flight to BCN Nov 02 03:31:48 slight chance i'll be stopped in FRA :) Nov 02 03:32:10 mranostay: oh? Nov 02 03:32:21 well the airport FRA :) Nov 02 03:32:56 only if my tube with lead soldered on freaks out security :) Nov 02 03:35:29 prpplague: you doing the showcase as well? Nov 02 03:36:11 mranostay: yea i think they have us schedule to do some tech demos for panda Nov 02 03:36:25 mranostay: but to be honest i probably will try very hard to get out of it Nov 02 03:37:34 prpplague: which flight from Miami? Nov 02 03:37:36 prpplague: yeah i saw the email :) Nov 02 03:37:49 going to make dimka do it? :) Nov 02 03:37:56 hehe yea Nov 02 03:38:23 alan_o: i'd have to look up the actual number but it is AA flight leaving around 6:30pm from MIA Nov 02 03:38:34 woot! we're on the same Nov 02 03:38:38 AA 112 Nov 02 03:38:41 630 Nov 02 03:38:45 620 Nov 02 03:38:49 610 Nov 02 03:39:06 ^^^ it had to be done Nov 02 03:39:32 I'll look for you at the gate. Where are you coming from? Nov 02 03:41:27 alan_o: hehe Nov 02 03:41:43 alan_o: apparently that flight is full of nerds Nov 02 03:41:50 nice Nov 02 03:41:51 * prpplague cringes at the horror Nov 02 03:42:27 yeah, I got it about 3 weeks ago, and it was cheap compared to anything Delta could do for me. Nov 02 03:42:50 It's sad I won't get the Delta miles though :( Nov 02 03:42:51 alan_o: did you pay the extra few to make sure your seat stays attached? Nov 02 03:43:02 i can see that flight now "yeah would you mind moving? i want to sit next to my IRC friends" :P Nov 02 03:43:11 hehe Nov 02 03:43:12 I didn't see that checkbox, but I'll ask at the gate hehe Nov 02 03:43:33 We can all open up our laptops and ad-hoc Nov 02 03:43:40 kinky Nov 02 03:43:42 quick - someone swap all their boarding pass barcodes for the "extra special search" Nov 02 03:43:55 mranostay: so that the person in 12C then logs into the on board wifi and irc to say hello to the person setting in 12B Nov 02 03:44:11 I have a friend in the UK who says he went to a LUG that was basically that. All the same people from IRC co-located talking on IRC. Nov 02 03:44:14 alan_o: yea AA112 Nov 02 03:44:33 i have talked on IRC to coworkers in the room Nov 02 03:44:51 We did that with IM all the time for various reasons. Nov 02 03:44:52 well of course - it would be rude to talk out loud. Nov 02 03:44:55 usually semi behind the management and sales back :) Nov 02 03:44:58 yeah Nov 02 03:45:01 that's usually the reason Nov 02 03:45:04 :) Nov 02 03:45:08 alan_o: well i should have enough of a lay-over in mia to get some booze Nov 02 03:45:12 "can you believe this slide?" :) Nov 02 03:45:39 prpplague: I only have 1.5h in MIA, so I'll probably be right at the gate about boardng time. Nov 02 03:47:18 * prpplague will pretend he is disabled and get a wheel-chair Nov 02 03:47:58 is MIA that bad? Nov 02 03:48:32 well i guess it can mean Missing in Action :) Nov 02 03:49:57 ugh.. I have to reboot... kernel to new for vbox I have installed..... stupid vbox. Why can't they clean up those drivers and get them mainlined? Nov 02 03:52:48 -ETOOHARD Nov 02 03:53:34 oh crap... I rebooted.... into the same kernel..... ugh Nov 02 03:53:38 mranostay: naw, MIA is a pretty darn good airport Nov 02 04:04:46 prpplague: we can all agree CDG blows right? :) Nov 02 04:06:18 mranostay: indeed Nov 02 04:12:38 prpplague: don't let the French design i've learned ;) Nov 02 04:31:20 hi alan o Nov 02 04:34:02 :) Nov 02 04:46:54 ugh... so even the new VirtualBox won't build with my kernel, and the kernel that it built with last time is gone (pulled update on it), so now I'm having to build an old kernel just so I can have something VirtualBox will run on. Nov 02 04:48:58 virtualbox, so I can haul my desktop PC to Miami in the morning.... Nov 02 04:49:10 and do Windows programming Nov 02 04:49:59 my friends tell me I do everything the hard way..... they're right, but I never seem to crack the code on what the easy way is Nov 02 05:39:50 well ka6sox Nov 02 05:45:54 yes? Nov 02 05:47:43 oh nothing that is a punk hello :) Nov 02 05:48:00 ka6sox: isn't it past your bedtime? per earlier talk? :) Nov 02 05:50:07 mranostay, I realize that someone as advanced in age as myself is usually in bed about the time the sun goes down... Nov 02 06:04:41 mranostay, I'll be ambling along....nite all Nov 02 07:07:58 _av500_: morning! Nov 02 07:08:19 yo Nov 02 07:09:55 av500: you flying out of FRA? Nov 02 07:11:54 mdp: you sleep? Nov 02 07:13:06 prpplague: FPGA made of shift registers? Nov 02 07:25:36 mranostay: yep Nov 02 07:26:06 whats your time on FRA? Nov 02 09:27:02 Hi all, will it cause bitflip more frequently if the gpmc timing is not well adjusted? Nov 02 09:29:12 Or the gpmc timing only affect the badblock araise? Nov 02 09:30:14 ? Nov 02 09:40:32 av500, I think bitflip is a physical nature of nand flash. but is wondering if the data will occur more frequently if I speed up the gpmc timing and it is not proper for my flash. Nov 02 09:41:31 * av500 fails to see what one has to do with the other Nov 02 09:41:48 data in flash might go bad Nov 02 09:42:05 but that has nothing to do if you read it wrongly by using wrong timings Nov 02 09:45:32 rickaaa, the programming process happens via internal state machines (within the flash) afaik Nov 02 09:45:58 if your timing are out of spec, you'll flip bits before they even arrive at the chip though :) Nov 02 09:46:04 er, timings Nov 02 10:19:38 funny how people keep saying "DT is hardware only" and then add linux keycodes to it Nov 02 10:41:42 :) Nov 02 10:41:54 thus linux keycodes are hardware Nov 02 10:47:36 I wonder if gcl inherited jobs' reality distortion field Nov 02 10:49:49 ? Nov 02 10:50:32 when does everyone arrive in Barcelona? Nov 02 10:50:38 I'll be there tomorrow Nov 02 10:51:57 sunday evening Nov 02 10:52:57 Crofton|work: flight touches down at 4pm tomorrow Nov 02 10:55:20 0900 for me Nov 02 10:55:27 how do I get to the hotel? Nov 02 10:55:40 seems like I had two choices + cab Nov 02 10:58:01 my trip planer says bus46 to the city Nov 02 10:58:11 s/trip planer/scout/ Nov 02 11:00:20 what I do is take the train into the city and then use the same ticket to take the subway to the hotel Nov 02 11:00:49 it's pretty much like berlin, expect that the airport is in the same zone as downtown Nov 02 11:00:55 except* Nov 02 11:01:20 trainstation is attached to the airport, so you don't even have to step outside Nov 02 11:01:54 * dm8tbr considers taking a taxi. supposedly costs 20eur Nov 02 11:02:13 * dm8tbr arrives today in the evening Nov 02 11:02:37 20 - 30 euro Nov 02 11:03:01 outside of rush hour a taxi is a good choice Nov 02 11:03:14 hmm, so sunday evening maybe too :) Nov 02 11:04:25 I only have carry-on luggage, so it doesn't really matter how I get to the hotel Nov 02 11:04:33 same here Nov 02 11:04:50 and I need to find out whether i fly back to FRA or to paris... Nov 02 11:04:52 if you have a heavy suitcase and arrive in the evening/night -> taxi Nov 02 11:07:17 my hotel is near Monumental Nov 02 11:08:12 * dm8tbr has 2 weeks of clothes in his bag, so a taxi is a good choice unless the public transport is really easy Nov 02 11:08:31 dm8tbr: easy, but can be very crowded Nov 02 11:08:53 ok, here in CPH it wasn't crowded at all and quite pleasant Nov 02 11:09:07 and metro stops in front of the hotel Nov 02 11:09:51 elc-e hotel is 5-10 minutes walk from 2 different stations Nov 02 11:10:13 * av500 is reminded to print hotel details before flying Nov 02 11:10:54 dm8tbr: as I said, public transport is similar to berlin Nov 02 11:11:06 then it is not good Nov 02 11:11:28 yes, but it is easy :) Nov 02 11:12:08 it does lack the "ausstieg links" announcements Nov 02 11:12:15 :) Nov 02 11:12:55 I prefer munich: "Blöde Zurückbleiben" Nov 02 11:13:09 LetoThe2nd: some of the artists in the tunnels play sepultura on a bass guitar Nov 02 11:13:25 LetoThe2nd: sadly also pan-flute gangs roam the tunnels Nov 02 11:16:03 koen: what was that gcl reference? Nov 02 11:17:30 av500: grant c likely, mr DT Nov 02 11:17:35 about keycodes being hw Nov 02 11:20:06 ah Nov 02 11:20:30 koen: I would assume DT reports physical xy location of keys Nov 02 11:20:52 top-left or centre? Nov 02 11:22:41 ha, we need dikc - device indepedent key codes Nov 02 11:22:47 typo puns intended Nov 02 11:29:23 doesn't that fcuk have a patent on that idea? Nov 02 11:29:27 Friday!!! Nov 02 11:29:41 +grammar Nov 02 11:29:46 patent - all the things! Nov 02 11:30:32 koen, olof already explained away the keycode thing once...remember? Nov 02 11:31:09 http://memegenerator.net/instance/29455911 Nov 02 11:31:28 missing ! Nov 02 11:31:36 b+ for effort though Nov 02 11:59:55 mdp: I remember, but that doesn't mean I can't mention it when someone makes "hw only" claims about DT Nov 02 12:01:07 yes. it also makes my alarm go off Nov 02 12:01:36 hit the snooze button Nov 02 12:01:48 heh Nov 02 12:01:49 http://www.amazon.com/Broken-Silicon-Romantic-Suspense-ebook/dp/B0099MLND8/ref=sr_1_7?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1351857680&sr=1-7 Nov 02 12:01:54 "broken build" Nov 02 12:01:59 in the mystery section Nov 02 12:02:34 heh Nov 02 12:02:44 hey Nov 02 12:03:30 hey Nov 02 12:03:35 koen, I was waiting to get called out for a sw binding when I added the alloc order property to the generic sram driver Nov 02 12:21:58 any idea why my phone says offline maps are not available for the area around the fira palace? Nov 02 12:22:56 Crofton|work: new yocto certification request submitted Nov 02 12:24:17 I saw Nov 02 12:24:21 I need to read it :) Nov 02 12:25:06 print ing a map atm Nov 02 12:33:06 crofton you used the wrong app Nov 02 12:37:06 what is the right app? Nov 02 12:37:26 navit Nov 02 12:37:34 it has offline maps from the beginning Nov 02 12:37:41 based on oms Nov 02 12:37:47 ups Nov 02 12:37:49 osm Nov 02 12:38:26 but maybee not so functional like others, but that depends on your needs Nov 02 12:39:25 thanks Nov 02 12:39:35 hopefully, I can get the area around the hotel downloaded Nov 02 12:39:44 ok, need to head for the bus Nov 02 12:39:55 till later Nov 02 13:10:38 interesting..google maps says offline maps not available for the area around the conf hotel Nov 02 13:12:32 ooops Nov 02 13:12:39 * mdp sees Crofton|work mentioning this Nov 02 13:13:24 another google beta feature :( Nov 02 13:13:38 it's top secret hotel Nov 02 13:14:06 probably a deal with the mobile carriers...follow the money Nov 02 13:24:57 #rpi update: "(09:24:46 AM) codemagician: anyone know how to turn the .o object file into a single executable" Nov 02 13:29:55 lol Nov 02 13:31:19 ironic nick Nov 02 13:32:22 objectmagician Nov 02 13:33:06 fair enough, he only claims to be able to code, not to link Nov 02 13:33:22 roobymagician Nov 02 13:33:40 panto will be the dtlinkermagician Nov 02 13:33:43 I'm sure they have a linkwizard some place Nov 02 13:34:17 panto, for some reason, I feel like the visual studio c++ stuff must have a linkwizard somewhere Nov 02 13:34:52 geez, my 6502 assembly is horribly rusty Nov 02 13:35:06 pour come cola on it Nov 02 13:35:10 some* Nov 02 13:35:16 success! Nov 02 13:37:49 koen did you say 20 euro-ish for the train-bus from the airport? Nov 02 13:38:02 10-ish for train/metro Nov 02 13:38:17 taxi is 20-30 Nov 02 13:38:17 ok, looked like a pretty short taxi ride for 20-ish Nov 02 13:38:20 ok Nov 02 13:41:35 ok, next feature is to add that stop mode debugging thing...or at least a damn i/o port with an led Nov 02 13:48:33 * mdp places brown bag on head again Nov 02 13:48:37 *sigh* Nov 02 13:48:44 is it vacation time yet? Nov 02 13:50:21 almost Nov 02 13:50:27 I'm so ready Nov 02 13:50:42 I'll buy you some beer coloured water in BCN Nov 02 13:50:50 wife even said, "enjoy your 'conference'" while making beer drinking motions Nov 02 13:50:52 estralla damm Nov 02 13:51:05 I should have never her let her see one of these events before :) Nov 02 13:51:15 hehe Nov 02 13:52:09 koen, I feel like nothing could be worse than 1664 Nov 02 13:52:33 elc-e 2011: a tour of prague breweries Nov 02 13:53:09 1808 Nov 02 13:54:09 koen, we almost had a riot at a hotel in velizy when they ran out of grimbergen and we were stuck with 1664 swill. blech. Nov 02 13:54:21 holiday inn? Nov 02 13:54:38 yeah Nov 02 13:55:44 the watered down pilsner is the norm there Nov 02 13:55:46 or red wine Nov 02 13:55:57 koen, ahh, yes, I just looked up estrella damm Nov 02 13:56:04 looks like their budweiser Nov 02 13:56:41 http://www.barcelona-life.com/barcelona/beer Nov 02 14:00:58 if you want pilsner, just ask for a caña Nov 02 14:01:35 technically caña is a size measurement Nov 02 14:01:43 of course, The Loch Inn is way far from conf hotel Nov 02 14:02:10 I'll survive somehow Nov 02 14:02:20 the conference is near a big road Nov 02 14:02:28 those have bars every 20 meters or so Nov 02 14:02:30 I kinda searched around there Nov 02 14:02:43 yeah, but .... good pubs are fewer in number Nov 02 14:04:47 the irish/english pubs I saw where exactly like a wetherspoons Nov 02 14:05:18 hrm, it appears the ld65 linker is doing what I told it to do rather than what I wanted it to do Nov 02 14:05:19 wtf Nov 02 14:05:19 the best find so far was a cafe/restaurant next to a cake shop Nov 02 14:05:41 eat & drink outside, them move inside for coffee and really good cake Nov 02 14:05:55 koen, it usually seems the "irish pubs" in these places are the ones you go to after the nice places shut down ;) Nov 02 14:06:01 * jkridner starts thinking about the bottles of beer in the basement and wondering if they are ready to enjoy. Nov 02 14:06:29 jkridner: I watched your cape contest announcement Nov 02 14:06:35 I'm sorry. Nov 02 14:06:36 jkridner: your cupcake needs some work Nov 02 14:06:41 indeed. Nov 02 14:06:57 Alejandro replaced it... and I'm grateful. Nov 02 14:08:32 * koen looks for the button on the left hand side Nov 02 14:09:32 that was my first comment too... Nov 02 14:09:38 as it is for most people... Nov 02 14:09:46 but, we figured it isn't worth redoing... Nov 02 14:09:53 we thought about moving the button to the other side... Nov 02 14:09:55 you can move the button Nov 02 14:10:03 but, he points to the side where the button is. Nov 02 14:10:09 who is judging the contest? Nov 02 14:10:13 it is to the left of him. Nov 02 14:10:19 me, Gerald, Clint.... Nov 02 14:10:20 mdp, Donald Trump? Nov 02 14:10:28 but taking in input from people... Nov 02 14:10:36 each entry will have a public comment section. Nov 02 14:10:44 * mdp wondering who I will need to bribe Nov 02 14:11:12 you are a TI employee and therefore ineligible to win. Nov 02 14:11:22 it was a joke, of course ;) Nov 02 14:11:30 koen: that goes for CircuitCo employees as well. :) Nov 02 14:11:45 * mdp quits Nov 02 14:11:50 yes, it's in the rules Nov 02 14:11:52 :-D Nov 02 14:12:11 man... finally get some talent around here and I have to run them off. :) Nov 02 14:12:33 they're a fickle bunch Nov 02 14:13:02 jkridner, did you follow up on the thread flame-fest? Nov 02 14:13:46 I've read... Nov 02 14:13:50 haven't yet replied... Nov 02 14:13:57 don't really consider it a flame-fest.... Nov 02 14:14:13 true Nov 02 14:14:16 no mention of nationalities, parents marital status, etc. Nov 02 14:14:22 it's a bit rough though :) Nov 02 14:14:45 and still not Godwined! Nov 02 14:14:48 we're waiting for a reply from the dt maintainers Nov 02 14:15:34 did gcl/rob get explicitly included yet? Nov 02 14:15:45 I included them on the replies Nov 02 14:15:50 ok, cool Nov 02 14:16:05 gcl must be on his way back/recovering from copenhagen Nov 02 14:16:14 I think he's there Nov 02 14:16:19 yeah, not a great time for people to digest stuff during a connect Nov 02 14:17:06 capebus as it is won't go in, but we can just move the interesting bits in DT Nov 02 14:17:27 all we care is that the problem is solved after all Nov 02 14:17:32 we can continue working on it and support the capes Nov 02 14:17:47 if the smarts are in DT, just move the drivers over there, and we're done Nov 02 14:17:55 mdp, right Nov 02 14:18:20 one could argue that without raising a fuss, the issues would remain unsolved Nov 02 14:20:01 panto, that's how it always works Nov 02 14:20:58 * jkridner looks at arch/x86/platform/mrst/mrst.c Nov 02 14:21:03 panto, there were also a lot of people trying to tell me that I should make any SG list coming into the edma dmaengine driver linear with copies so that the API didn't need to be changed to account for the hardware limitations Nov 02 14:21:23 panto, I'll just say that one of the people was also suggesting unworkable solutions in your thread Nov 02 14:21:45 panto, how do you make SG lists linear without doing a copy? ;) hahaha Nov 02 14:22:04 use the underpants gnome method Nov 02 14:22:15 right, we'll do a cpu copy..so then we dma it! Nov 02 14:22:18 hahaha Nov 02 14:22:27 I had to drink to that suggestion Nov 02 14:22:42 urgh... doesn't this mrst.c crap rely on knowing all of the devices in the kernel ahead of time? Nov 02 14:22:44 it's ok if you don't know about a subject Nov 02 14:22:51 jkridner, yeah Nov 02 14:22:57 not our case exactly Nov 02 14:23:23 try not to blow a top with the desktop linux guys, all they know is x86 Nov 02 14:23:26 mdp: I liked the comment on your mmc dma patches Nov 02 14:23:33 mdp: "mmc doesn't need dma!" Nov 02 14:23:36 "yes it does" Nov 02 14:24:03 koen, I'm just not smart enough to understand I guess Nov 02 14:24:10 nothing needs to be fast... it's just so much better when it is fast Nov 02 14:24:15 this is why I write 6502 assembly instead ;) Nov 02 14:26:27 mm...woz monitor is alive on the cape Nov 02 14:26:29 hmmm... SFI seems to make some sense to me... Nov 02 14:26:37 is there a reason we can't use that? Nov 02 14:27:13 jkridner, err, it's intel's baby... and everyone is moving to DT anyway for ARM Nov 02 14:27:25 semantically there's no big difference Nov 02 14:28:13 I don't know why not to steal the baby. Nov 02 14:28:17 does it solve a problem? Nov 02 14:28:25 (modulo the fact that it's based on platform data, which are going away) Nov 02 14:28:45 SFI itself has no relation to pdata Nov 02 14:28:50 DT is the same, only much more mature Nov 02 14:28:51 you mean the kernel support code? Nov 02 14:28:56 yes Nov 02 14:29:01 SFI has a real spec! ;) Nov 02 14:29:10 I give up :) Nov 02 14:29:28 I will get you a beer soon and make it all better Nov 02 14:29:38 promise? Nov 02 14:29:43 yes Nov 02 14:29:51 sob, thanks Nov 02 14:30:09 1 5cl estrella damm Nov 02 14:31:14 * jkridner no longer knows how to reply to the thread.... Nov 02 14:31:31 It seemed to me that Alan's response was in most need of an additional reply... Nov 02 14:31:50 and now I'm thinking SFI might be viable. Nov 02 14:32:11 i think his pointer to mrst.c is bogus and his comment about it not being a bus is bogus. Nov 02 14:33:10 it is Nov 02 14:33:14 bogus Nov 02 14:33:31 * panto is about to start looking into the 'how many angels can fit on a head of a pin' Nov 02 14:33:38 it's the "do it in the bootloader" path Nov 02 14:33:52 SFI is? Nov 02 14:33:54 which we tried, and is miserable Nov 02 14:33:57 yes Nov 02 14:34:00 why? Nov 02 14:34:01 SFI is bootloader Nov 02 14:34:08 *a bootloader solution Nov 02 14:34:09 oh... crap... that isn't good. Nov 02 14:34:19 why can't SFI be implemented in the kernel? Nov 02 14:34:22 moorestown's acpi spits out a SFI-compliant blob of data which is parsed in the kernel Nov 02 14:34:24 BFD Nov 02 14:34:33 it's just like DT only less capable Nov 02 14:34:40 it's the age old 'do it like the x86' argument Nov 02 14:34:54 much, much, less capable Nov 02 14:35:05 they seem to spec only spi and i2c devices Nov 02 14:35:19 * mdp stares at the growing directory of DT bindings Nov 02 14:36:10 doesn't really matter in any case, he's just suggesting that you do it in the bootloader..so the response is simple Nov 02 14:52:14 panto: 42? Nov 02 14:52:30 the answer to everything Nov 02 15:34:42 * mdp watches cubieboard unboxing and notes it doesn't require an antistatic bag Nov 02 15:38:06 mdp: hehe Nov 02 15:40:01 heh Nov 02 15:41:45 FRIDAY!!! Nov 02 15:45:46 * mranostay kicks mru into uber-troll mode Nov 02 15:56:37 anyone leaving from SFO for E-ELC tomorrow? Nov 02 16:09:06 panto: k, I sent a response... probably pretty week. Nov 02 16:09:09 er, weak. Nov 02 16:09:29 mranostay: me Nov 02 16:09:43 mranostay: i think alan_o is on the same flight as nhg and i Nov 02 16:15:26 a veritable horde of beer seekers Nov 02 16:18:09 hehe Nov 02 16:20:32 lol Nov 02 16:26:05 hope the Spanish ordered a couple more barrels than normal Nov 02 16:26:43 xora hm spanish beer is not that got Nov 02 16:26:54 but you could drink sangria Nov 02 16:27:41 from buckets Nov 02 16:34:30 prpplague: what time? Nov 02 16:34:55 mranostay: around 6pm from MIA to BCN Nov 02 16:35:10 prpplague: note i said SFO in there :P Nov 02 16:35:28 mranostay: oh sorry, didn't notice Nov 02 16:35:33 mranostay: too many conversations going Nov 02 16:36:24 * mranostay notes he should check to see if his health insurance is valid in Europe Nov 02 16:37:27 mranostay: planning on getting an operation while you are in spain? Nov 02 16:37:39 no in case i get hit by a bus in spain :) Nov 02 16:47:44 that is entirely possible Nov 02 16:48:14 does your employer have a contingency plan for "when mranostay gets hit by the proverbial bus" Nov 02 16:48:37 only a proverbial plan Nov 02 16:48:49 mdp all companies have yellow bus plans Nov 02 16:49:08 hire another "body" Nov 02 16:49:16 send flowers Nov 02 16:49:26 cut the last Nov 02 16:49:37 if anything it's in that order ;) Nov 02 16:50:12 mdp, I like how you say 'when' rather than 'if' Nov 02 16:50:27 mranostay, this if why I recommend obfuscating all your codez..do not become disposable Nov 02 16:50:36 Russ, lol..oops..a slip! Nov 02 16:51:00 mranostay, you might want to keep your distance from me when walking the streets of barco Nov 02 16:55:30 i'm the only one that knows the build system does that count? Nov 02 16:56:01 no Nov 02 16:56:18 graveyards are full of indispensable people Nov 02 16:57:31 mranostay is not enough because of your excellent documentation Nov 02 16:57:36 mdp: the question is do i care what my employer would do if i'm hit by a bus? i'm dead :) Nov 02 16:58:07 you are not a true company man, I'm disappointed Nov 02 16:58:34 mranostay, stop documenting things Nov 02 17:02:09 wait, who's driving the bus? Nov 02 17:05:23 mranostay, with your luck you'll get hit by the capebus Nov 02 17:05:50 panto *g* Nov 02 17:07:42 seems to be a lot of confusion over the purpose of capebus Nov 02 17:08:16 Russ, that's an understatement Nov 02 17:12:29 i hope to add to that :) Nov 02 17:37:41 panto: will it feel my cat? Nov 02 17:42:43 on using the RPI, i dont thinks its a bad platform, pretty neat :o Nov 02 17:44:38 wow that is informative Nov 02 17:44:39 and from beagle->pi migration pretty easy :o Nov 02 17:44:46 please tell us more Nov 02 17:45:24 mranostay: for greater knowledge try an encylopdia Nov 02 17:45:45 they don't print them anymore Nov 02 17:46:01 you could get a web version :P Nov 02 17:46:06 mb amazon kindle it O-o Nov 02 17:46:16 britannica 1.0 Nov 02 17:46:36 * dm8tbr yawns and waits for boarding of his flight to BCN to begin Nov 02 17:47:18 so this is what those ppl who look like theyre working on their laptop in airport lounges dooo Nov 02 17:47:31