**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 25 02:59:59 2012 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 25 06:11:22 2012 Nov 25 07:45:14 * ds2 shakes fist Nov 25 07:45:21 %@#$@##%%$@#$!$!@$!@# -A versions Nov 25 07:46:14 with that i'm sleeping Nov 25 07:46:23 * mranostay hands the bat to ds2 Nov 25 07:46:56 difference is - the A version has reset referenced off a different power rail Nov 25 07:53:07 Heh, doing ifconfig wlan0 up followed by ifconfig wlan0 down followed by ifconfig wlan0 up again crashes the entire beaglebone with this awful rt2870 usb wifi adpater Nov 25 07:53:34 I think it's time I gave up and bought a different one Nov 25 07:54:34 sure it isn't a power issue? Nov 25 07:55:12 it's possible, but it's plugged in with a supposed 5V 2A supply Nov 25 07:56:52 are you on the console? Nov 25 07:57:08 yeah Nov 25 07:57:26 no messages? Nov 25 07:57:53 after doing a hard restart everything looks fine Nov 25 07:58:48 but bringing it up/down/up completely freezes it and I have to hard restart it to even connect to it over ethernet Nov 25 07:59:52 smells like a power problem Nov 25 08:00:19 it certainly is warm Nov 25 08:02:46 I'm using a F5D7050 which is rather large and wireless n, but it is what I had on hand. Nov 25 08:04:02 okay so this time I waited quite a long time before doing the second up Nov 25 08:04:06 and it was fine Nov 25 08:05:05 seems like a self healing fuse healing Nov 25 08:05:33 I wonder if it will just crash during use then Nov 25 08:05:55 it is possible the thing isn't USB compliant and have peak draws >500mA Nov 25 08:07:12 it seems to pick stuff up with iwlist wlan0 scan Nov 25 08:07:26 try a continous transmit Nov 25 08:07:47 aaaand its dead Nov 25 08:07:48 yep Nov 25 08:07:52 power problem Nov 25 08:08:07 what killed it? Nov 25 08:08:20 trying to send stuff over it Nov 25 08:08:27 heh Nov 25 08:09:06 didn't want that adapter anyway Nov 25 08:09:31 any recommendations before I go buy another one that doesn't work? Nov 25 08:09:32 heh Nov 25 08:15:09 I got some stuff in dmesg this time: Nov 25 08:15:09 [ 1001.783477] phy0 -> rt2x00usb_vendor_request: Error - Vendor Request 0x07 failed for offset 0x1020 with error -110. Nov 25 08:24:52 kalagar: you could give the the wifi card its own 5v rails. Nov 25 08:26:21 unfortunately since I want it to eventually run on batteries I would rather not have a part that uses excessive energy Nov 25 08:36:29 adafruit claims that RTl8192cu chipset works so maybe I'll buy one of those off amazon or something Nov 25 17:38:05 Hello, I would like to know if it's possible to turn the usb0(mini A) on the Beaglebone into an host USB? I've tried "modprobe g_zero" and then echo host in the musb_hdrc.0/mode file with no result. The file is stucked with b_idle. Nov 25 17:39:00 isn't the mini-A hooked up to the ftdi chip? Nov 25 17:43:28 I'm not sure at all, but it seems to be. Nov 25 17:49:08 anyone have an app/script for writing Beaglebone ID EEPROM? Nov 25 18:07:06 lol http://lwn.net/Articles/526822/ Nov 25 18:14:56 Is the ftdi chip prevent me to use mini-A in host? if not, is there a way to bypass this? Nov 25 18:15:34 the ftdi is a usb-rs232 bridge connected to a uart on the am335x Nov 25 18:19:14 So? It's possible to do it? Nov 25 18:21:11 <_av500_> the mini-A usb is not connected to the bone usb Nov 25 18:21:18 <_av500_> only to an uart Nov 25 18:28:41 ok thanks Nov 25 19:08:16 mru: i defintily like the last sentence in http://lwn.net/Articles/526828/ Nov 25 19:09:07 <_av500_> KotH: maybe guix only downloads from servers running Longsoon cpus? Nov 25 19:09:23 prolly Nov 25 19:09:40 though, isnt longsoon a non-free design? i mean, nobody has its source? Nov 25 19:10:28 <_av500_> darn Nov 25 19:10:52 koth ask china Nov 25 19:10:53 * _av500_ goes to canvas the beach for "free" sand... Nov 25 19:15:35 .o0(Durchkämmt die Wüste!) Nov 25 19:18:19 <_av500_> +1 Nov 25 19:18:23 * dm8tbr put up a picture of that scene with the comment "Find the bugs, hide them better!" in one of the coders rooms Nov 25 19:21:32 KotH: non-free is ok as long as it doesn't have any kind of loadable firmware/microcode Nov 25 19:22:49 .o0(und der storch bringt die firmware) Nov 25 19:23:26 <_av500_> ja Nov 25 19:23:33 <_av500_> Richard Storch Nov 25 19:23:58 who? Nov 25 19:24:27 <_av500_> R.M.Storch Nov 25 19:25:00 never heard of Nov 25 19:25:20 wasn't it parrots? Nov 25 19:25:32 <_av500_> ex-parrots Nov 25 19:44:16 where can i get refounds? Nov 25 19:51:14 i'm setting up a beagle board for the first time....if I'm using one of the prebuilt ubuntu images (12.10) I assume I still have to manually rebuild the kernel for SGX and DSP support? Nov 25 20:12:41 xenome: kernel modules - unless you are into monotlithic kernels Nov 25 23:32:51 JIHAD! Nov 25 23:32:55 er.. i mean ... good night Nov 25 23:33:39 "JIHAD - not just for terrorists" Nov 25 23:34:24 * mranostay backs away Nov 25 23:34:51 mranostay: wear that on a t-shirt through an airport and I'll buy you a beer Nov 25 23:35:29 oh that is totally worth missing my flight and getting strip searched Nov 25 23:35:47 i do not troll security :) Nov 25 23:35:58 pussy! Nov 25 23:36:01 ;) Nov 25 23:36:06 except maybe security guards and rent-a-cops Nov 25 23:36:23 TSA are just glorified rent-a-cops Nov 25 23:36:37 yeah but more power than the average one Nov 25 23:36:48 not nearly as much as they like to pretend Nov 25 23:37:10 iiuc they do not have the power to arrest Nov 25 23:37:13 only to deny entry Nov 25 23:37:38 the problem with those types is they have a chip on their shoulder because they wanted to be real police :) Nov 25 23:37:52 mru: yes but they can call the real cops over to arrest you Nov 25 23:37:59 sure Nov 25 23:38:08 but the real cops can only arrest you if you broke the law Nov 25 23:39:14 tsa is getting more powerfull.. they're now on copyright notices :P Nov 25 23:39:44 this kindle never charges fast enough Nov 25 23:39:53 every month i have to charge it... :) Nov 25 23:40:00 real cops can and will arrest for fake reasons... they just can't hold for more than 2 days Nov 25 23:40:32 they risk false arrest charges but those rarely go anywhere Nov 26 00:39:30 _av500_: the mini-B connector on the bone connects to the uart and to the USB device (not host) through a hub. I've run gadget stuff over it before. Nov 26 00:43:32 alan_o_: hub in the ftdi chip? Nov 26 00:43:40 There's a hub on the board Nov 26 00:43:52 FTDI chip connects behind it Nov 26 00:44:07 and so does the usb device on the am33x Nov 26 00:44:09 ah, that's the other ftdi chip Nov 26 01:47:27 alan_o_: there is a hub? Nov 26 01:47:32 i guess that does make sense Nov 26 01:49:41 "rub-a-dub-dub, three ports in a hub" Nov 26 01:52:41 anyone know when the collaboration summit cfp usually opens up? Nov 26 01:53:54 * mranostay tosses mru a beer Nov 26 01:55:59 * ds2 tosses beer bottles around Nov 26 01:58:10 heh sees a job listing from his old employer on G+ and wonders who quit :) Nov 26 01:58:47 ds2: don't forget the guns Nov 26 02:13:14 Crofton|work: so your workplace is on Castro? Nov 26 02:39:20 emeb_mac: hey FPGA dude Nov 26 02:39:46 mranostay: hey radiation dude Nov 26 02:59:51 Beagleboard xM U-Boot question: am running the prebuilt image from the TI SDK (05.05.00.00) and saveenv seems to want to write to NAND. Do I need to build U-Boot myself to fix this? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Nov 26 02:59:58 2012