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Nov 27 03:03:13 <alan_o> man, 10pm... everything takes so much longer than you expect it will.....
Nov 27 06:26:54 <dfarmer> With the spi_board_info struct what does .chip_select refer to (I know what chip select is: for selecting which slave device is being "talked to", but I mean what does the integer correspond to). Looking at the Beaglebone sys reference it says spio0 has one cs signal. So if bus num = 0 then chip_select has to be 0?
Nov 27 06:29:04 <Manish> hii
Nov 27 07:19:27 <mranostay> prpplague: you around by chance?
Nov 27 07:54:57 <koen> Russ: Drat, I'll digg up the original patch and have a look
Nov 27 08:44:14 <Russ> koen, it's an easy fix
Nov 27 10:01:30 <_av500_> when bored in a meeting, troll rpi
Nov 27 10:03:52 <KotH> _av500_: does that also work in a lecture?
Nov 27 10:06:09 <LetoThe2nd> _av500_: when board in a meeting?
Nov 27 10:43:24 <_av500_> LetoThe2nd: no use for board, no snow
Nov 27 10:44:32 <LetoThe2nd> hehehe
Nov 27 10:45:16 <_av500_> though it could be used as a LART too
Nov 27 10:45:28 <_av500_> edges are still fresh
Nov 27 10:46:37 * LetoThe2nd tries not to imagine _av500_ board-larting the bored meeting.
Nov 27 10:48:03 <_av500_> mdp: ha, you have a trigger on that? :)
Nov 27 11:01:24 <mdp> _av500_: indeed
Nov 27 11:16:33 <mdp> I was catching up g+ while in the security line and saw that, "whoa...6502 alert!"
Nov 27 11:26:58 <panto> hello
Nov 27 11:27:13 <mdp> wb panto
Nov 27 11:28:39 <panto> thx
Nov 27 11:29:38 <mdp> flight time...bbl
Nov 27 11:31:59 <panto> have a safe flight
Nov 27 12:13:29 <KotH> good afternoon
Nov 27 12:22:02 <keesj> Hi
Nov 27 12:23:31 <jkridner> gm all
Nov 27 12:27:53 <panto> hi there
Nov 27 12:38:19 <_av500_> hiho
Nov 27 12:38:29 <_av500_> troll meeting in progress
Nov 27 13:26:58 <jkridner> koen: have you seen issues with vmlinux.o builds getting a bad argument?
Nov 27 13:27:03 <jkridner> seems everything else built.
Nov 27 13:27:11 <jkridner> well, a bunch of modules anyway
Nov 27 13:28:39 <_av500_> a bad argument?
Nov 27 13:31:41 <jkridner> _av500_: that's what it says
Nov 27 13:32:13 <jkridner> http://pastebin.com/XjGkYS3X
Nov 27 13:34:52 <mru> _av500_: a mere contradiction rather than a proper argument
Nov 27 13:34:56 <prpplague> mranostay: hey bud
Nov 27 13:34:59 <prpplague> mranostay: you rang?
Nov 27 13:36:42 <bradfa> prpplague, mranostay is most likely sleeping now, no?
Nov 27 13:37:09 <bradfa> assuming mranostay sleeps, that is :)
Nov 27 13:37:23 <jkridner> I'm guessing it is my first major linking operation?
Nov 27 13:37:58 <prpplague> bradfa: we all have weird sleep schedules
Nov 27 13:38:08 <_av500_> mru: any kenrle that argues  with me, I just delete
Nov 27 13:44:02 <jkridner> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1391686/
Nov 27 13:50:07 <jkridner> removing the sourcing of /usr/local/angstrom/arm/environment-setup made my build problem go away.
Nov 27 13:53:11 <koen> jkridner: haven't seen that yet
Nov 27 13:53:23 <koen> jkridner: ah right, the CPATH thing
Nov 27 14:00:23 <bradfa> prpplague, mranostay is in CA, it's only 6am there :)
Nov 27 14:00:59 <panto> bradfa, but he's a punk, and punks never sleep
Nov 27 14:02:19 <ka6sox> now thats a name I've not heard in a while...Punk
Nov 27 14:02:52 <ka6sox> I'm quite certain that mru never sleeps...(or has eyes in the back of his head)
Nov 27 14:03:24 <mru> what makes you say that?
Nov 27 14:04:26 <koen> jkridner: I'm on as well, but on mute till I stop coughing like a chain smoker
Nov 27 14:06:52 <ka6sox> mru, because you are on at all hours...even moreso than I.
Nov 27 14:07:44 <mru> why would I close the irc client when I sleep?
Nov 27 14:08:49 * KotH has seen mru sleep
Nov 27 14:08:55 <KotH> or at least fake being asleep
Nov 27 14:10:24 <prpplague> bradfa: yep, doesn't mean he isn't awake, hehe
Nov 27 14:15:13 <koen> jkridner: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/angstrom-eglibc-x86_64-armv7a-v2012.05-toolchain.tar.bz2
Nov 27 14:17:50 <hmdeb> Hi, has anyone got any kernel patches for 3.2.21?
Nov 27 14:18:20 <mru> I have patches that apply to most versions
Nov 27 14:18:50 <_av500_> I have seen mru sleep in broad daylight
Nov 27 14:19:04 <mru> trolls sleep during the day
Nov 27 14:19:17 <hmdeb> So they do
Nov 27 14:19:51 <mru> besides, if you grew up in sweden you're able to sleep in sunlight
Nov 27 14:19:55 <hmdeb> I woul really like to have the kernel patched with Xenomai, but Xeno is a bit of a bastard
Nov 27 14:19:58 <mru> it's a necessity during the summer there
Nov 27 14:20:01 <hmdeb> would*
Nov 27 14:22:02 <KotH> mru: yeah.. all my friends who went to lund complained about that
Nov 27 14:23:02 <mru> lund is nothing
Nov 27 14:24:42 <KotH> compared to .ch, where it is _DARK_ during the night
Nov 27 14:25:06 <_av500_> in select places
Nov 27 14:25:43 <mru> you call .ch dark?
Nov 27 14:25:54 <_av500_> dark chocolate
Nov 27 14:27:20 <KotH> bomb shelter are usually quite dark when you switch the lights off
Nov 27 14:27:40 <mru> you get bombed a lot?
Nov 27 14:28:58 <_av500_> photo bombed
Nov 27 14:29:17 <KotH> better be safe!
Nov 27 14:52:23 <paulk-desktop> hi
Nov 27 14:52:38 <paulk-desktop> I have an omap3 board similar to beagleboard
Nov 27 14:53:15 <paulk-desktop> and I'm wondering how to enable the OTG VCC line
Nov 27 14:53:18 <paulk-desktop> when in host mode
Nov 27 14:53:41 <_av500_> do it like on the beagleboard?
Nov 27 14:54:39 <paulk-desktop> I'm not a beagleboard user though, so I'm asking how it's done on the beagleboard
Nov 27 14:55:22 <_av500_> check the schematics?
Nov 27 14:55:32 <dm8tbr> 'the kernel does it'?
Nov 27 14:55:43 <_av500_> not being a user does not prevent you from looking how it is one
Nov 27 14:55:45 <_av500_> done
Nov 27 14:55:54 <paulk-desktop> I thought asking would be faster
Nov 27 14:56:21 <_av500_> faster for you, yes
Nov 27 14:56:25 <paulk-desktop> dmesg says "rejected 1 configuration due to insufficient available bus power"
Nov 27 14:56:42 <paulk-desktop> or maybe it's because of the 250mA limitation?
Nov 27 14:56:45 <paulk-desktop> a mouse seems to work
Nov 27 14:56:49 <paulk-desktop> so I assume VCC is enabled
Nov 27 14:57:05 <dm8tbr> attach a powered hub
Nov 27 14:57:25 <paulk-desktop> ok so this is a regular limitation?
Nov 27 14:57:45 <paulk-desktop> (ie: it happens on the beagleboard too?)
Nov 27 14:58:36 <dm8tbr> the SRM might state how much current the OTG port supports
Nov 27 14:59:57 <paulk-desktop> ok
Nov 27 15:00:25 <_av500_> the bus power is a setting in the kernel config
Nov 27 15:00:30 <_av500_> change it to 500mA
Nov 27 15:00:38 <_av500_> if your HW can supply 500mA
Nov 27 15:00:46 <dm8tbr> IF :)
Nov 27 15:00:49 <_av500_> surew
Nov 27 15:01:07 <_av500_> I assume the asking party knows about its hardware
Nov 27 15:01:08 <paulk-desktop> ok
Nov 27 15:01:10 <paulk-desktop> thanks
Nov 27 15:03:02 <mru> _av500_: I always assume the opposite
Nov 27 15:03:08 <mru> it tends to be more accurate
Nov 27 15:09:50 <KotH> well, doing software on an embedded system w/o basic hw knowledge just begs for frying the hw... and then maybe they might learn something
Nov 27 15:09:53 <KotH> or maybe not...
Nov 27 15:10:32 <_av500_> KotH: I assume somebody having a non beagle omap3 hardware has some knowledge about it
Nov 27 15:10:41 * KotH wonders whether he should give a talk on basic hw stuff at next elce
Nov 27 15:22:16 * emeb_mac wonders how long a talk on basic hw would have to be
Nov 27 15:22:53 <emeb_mac> and would it include ohms law?
Nov 27 15:23:22 <_av500_> too complex
Nov 27 15:23:29 <_av500_> you already lost half the audience
Nov 27 15:23:39 <emeb_mac> aaaiiieeee - multiplicationses
Nov 27 15:24:47 <_av500_> yeah
Nov 27 15:26:57 <jonand> emeb_mac: I saw a talk on basic hw at HAR2009 that was appreciated by the (linux hacker-type) audience. It included some basics like GPIO modes, pullups, etc.
Nov 27 15:27:30 <jonand> could be used as a template/inspiration for your talk
Nov 27 15:27:56 <_av500_> KotH: at elce, one could assume the audience knows a bit about hardware :)
Nov 27 15:28:30 <emeb_mac> jonand: s/emeb_mac/KotH/
Nov 27 15:29:40 <jonand> emeb_mac: ah, didn't read enough scrollback.
Nov 27 15:30:02 <emeb_mac> :)
Nov 27 15:32:37 <KotH> jonand: do you have a url or a title at hand?
Nov 27 15:33:04 <jonand> KotH: let me search
Nov 27 15:33:50 <keesj> I would like the next version of the beagle to be called pony.
Nov 27 15:34:04 <keesj> as in "I want a pony"
Nov 27 15:34:13 <_av500_> ponyboard
Nov 27 15:34:17 <jonand> KotH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV2CSnqGfGc and the following parts
Nov 27 15:35:00 <KotH> jonand: domo!
Nov 27 15:36:02 <keesj> and not phonyboard
Nov 27 15:36:26 <emeb_mac> phoney?
Nov 27 15:40:26 <keesj> right
Nov 27 16:07:31 <_av500_> https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2012-November/032153.html
Nov 27 16:07:41 <_av500_> nice flamewar for the feierabend
Nov 27 16:07:47 <_av500_> if you are so inclined
Nov 27 16:14:30 <mturquette> _av500_: i'm enjoying that thread very much.
Nov 27 16:15:22 <_av500_> mturquette: :)
Nov 27 16:16:20 <_av500_> http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/30483828.jpg
Nov 27 16:18:08 <mturquette> i doubt eudev is actually coming ;-)
Nov 27 16:21:10 <ogra-cb> well, nobody but gentoo would use it antyway
Nov 27 16:21:15 <ogra-cb> *any
Nov 27 16:21:52 <mturquette> haha i really like this:
Nov 27 16:21:53 <mturquette> "And the actual problem are the users that do not want an initramfs -
Nov 27 16:21:54 <mturquette> things booted without one the last few decades, why add some machinery
Nov 27 16:21:55 <mturquette> now that doesn't improve anything?"
Nov 27 16:22:06 <mturquette> i was unaware that linux was over 30 years old!
Nov 27 16:22:31 <mturquette> The More You Know(tm)
Nov 27 16:43:06 <mru> it's unfortunate that a bunch of incompetent kids started that fork
Nov 27 16:43:31 <mru> now everyone is just mocking them instead of focusing on the actual issues at hand
Nov 27 16:47:56 <panto> mru, agreed there
Nov 27 16:48:08 <panto> some issues are very much real
Nov 27 16:48:38 * panto is especially pissed at $RANDOM library creep 
Nov 27 16:49:07 <panto> want people to use your crap, don't pull in random libraries as dependencies unless you have to
Nov 27 16:49:39 <mru> and then use the dependency on piles of libs as excuse to do EVEN MORE crap
Nov 27 16:56:30 <panto> av500, trolliest-ping
Nov 27 17:47:14 * Russ lol's at eudev and it's sleek agile form looming on the horizon
Nov 27 17:55:41 <mranostay> panto: troll pong
Nov 27 17:55:49 * panto kicks mr
Nov 27 17:55:52 * panto kicks mranostay 
Nov 27 17:56:14 <panto> damn this popular channel with so many people in it
Nov 27 17:57:01 <KotH> blame the trolls for asking everyone and their dog to join ;)
Nov 27 17:58:29 <mranostay> KotH: some of us have cats thank you
Nov 27 18:02:59 <KotH> mranostay: i would like to have a cat... but they are high maintenance ;)
Nov 27 18:04:55 <mru> nothing compared to dogs
Nov 27 18:04:55 <mranostay> feed them and clean the littr box is high maintenance?
Nov 27 18:05:21 <KotH> most of my plants die on me....
Nov 27 18:05:28 <KotH> so yes, they are high maintenance
Nov 27 18:05:48 <mru> plants can't beg for food
Nov 27 18:06:15 <mru> cats will tell you when they need something
Nov 27 18:07:43 <mranostay> the plant jihadist
Nov 27 18:08:12 <KotH> well.. i've a few plants that are older than i am
Nov 27 18:08:15 <KotH> and they still live
Nov 27 18:08:23 <KotH> or rather, they are hard to kill
Nov 27 18:08:48 <mranostay> try harder
Nov 27 18:08:56 <KotH> JIHAD!!!!!
Nov 27 18:23:07 <djlewis> pizza has arrived :)
Nov 27 18:38:24 <emeb> mru: one of my cats tells me he needs food in the morning by tapping me on the nose as I sleep.
Nov 27 18:38:50 <djlewis> a paw fresh from the litter box :)
Nov 27 18:39:04 <emeb> there are some questions one does not ask
Nov 27 18:39:12 <ogra-cb> better than a paw with mouse raimainings
Nov 27 18:39:17 <mru> and if you don't react, he escalates with claws?
Nov 27 18:39:21 <ogra-cb> *remainings
Nov 27 18:39:30 <mru> remains
Nov 27 18:39:37 <emeb> mru: you've met this cat
Nov 27 18:39:52 <ka6sox> that's Cats
Nov 27 18:40:02 <KotH> emeb: is the cats name "simon"? :)
Nov 27 18:40:22 <emeb> there's a lot of truth in those animations
Nov 27 18:40:23 <mru> KotH: simon is not the cat
Nov 27 18:40:30 <KotH> oh.. right ^^'
Nov 27 18:40:32 <KotH> sorry^^'
Nov 27 18:40:41 * KotH apologizes a couple times
Nov 27 18:41:07 * KotH then launches an all out attack on the interwebz to correct that
Nov 27 18:41:23 <mru> xkcd 386
Nov 27 18:41:32 <djlewis> at the click of the enter key its all around the world
Nov 27 18:42:03 <djlewis> give or take a few ms
Nov 27 18:42:30 <KotH> up to 500ms
Nov 27 18:42:53 <KotH> propably .tr -> .jp is the worst you can have
Nov 27 18:43:21 <mru> if you don't wait for the ack
Nov 27 18:43:35 <KotH> mru: that single trip '^^
Nov 27 18:43:55 <KotH> mru: .ch <-> .jp has already an rtt of 500ms
Nov 27 18:46:17 <KotH> hi hitlin37
Nov 27 18:46:27 <KotH> hitlin37: how can we help you with your opencv question?
Nov 27 18:46:28 <hitlin37> hi
Nov 27 18:47:07 <hitlin37> not working on opencv
Nov 27 18:47:25 <KotH> oh.. sorry, then we cannot help you
Nov 27 18:59:34 <djlewis> what! a day without a opencv question? what are we to do...
Nov 27 19:03:24 * djlewis ponders taking the rest of the day off.
Nov 27 19:03:33 <hitlin37> may be post on opencv ml to ask questions here
Nov 27 19:03:51 <dm8tbr> djlewis: you could spend that time writing some openCV code and asking us for advice
Nov 27 19:04:56 <djlewis> I had most all opencv samples and my own code working at one time.
Nov 27 19:05:12 <djlewis> on my old beagleboard rev C2
Nov 27 19:05:59 <djlewis> seems like each rev of the kernel and sys would break what worked before.
Nov 27 19:09:02 <mru> djlewis: that
Nov 27 19:09:13 <mru> s called progress
Nov 27 19:51:18 <mranostay> why i hate x86... the defconfig build has 1.5 gbs of modules
Nov 27 19:51:40 <mru> why would you use defconfig?
Nov 27 19:52:05 <mru> for x86 it's easy enough to configure it properly from scratch
Nov 27 19:52:18 <Russ> make allmodconfig!
Nov 27 19:54:26 <mru> good luck booting that
Nov 27 21:06:22 <_av500_> gah
Nov 27 21:06:54 <mru> can you elaborate on that?
Nov 27 21:18:49 <djlewis> hag
Nov 27 21:19:22 <_av500_> heh, hag was on the agenda today
Nov 27 21:21:27 <mdp> mranostay, using defconfig is ethical
Nov 27 21:21:48 <_av500_> ethanol?
Nov 27 21:21:52 <_av500_> oops
Nov 27 21:31:39 <_av500_> a plague is upon us
Nov 27 21:36:38 <emeb> a plague of what though?
Nov 27 21:36:55 <_av500_> purple
Nov 27 21:42:42 <Russ> purple rain?
Nov 27 21:44:05 <mru> reminds me of a stupid joke
Nov 27 21:44:18 <mru> what modem did jimi hendrix use?
Nov 27 21:44:31 <mru> a purple hayes
Nov 27 21:44:34 <emeb> ow
Nov 27 21:44:52 * emeb saw that one coming. didn't duck fast enough.
Nov 27 21:44:58 <_av500_>     +1
Nov 27 21:45:22 <mru> I said it was stupid
Nov 27 21:45:36 <emeb> and you're no liar.
Nov 27 21:45:52 * _av500_ always lies
Nov 27 21:46:22 <emeb> everything you know is wrong.
Nov 27 21:46:40 <_av500_> when I close me eys, you dont even exist any more
Nov 27 21:46:45 <_av500_> eyes*
Nov 27 21:47:20 <emeb> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Ye8fBEkcc
Nov 27 21:48:01 <_av500_> not from the train :(
Nov 27 21:48:17 <emeb> Sisters of Mercy - When You Don't See Me
Nov 27 21:48:40 <_av500_> +100
Nov 27 21:50:37 <mdp> it's too quiet here
Nov 27 21:50:49 <_av500_> i'm on 2g
Nov 27 21:50:57 <emeb> how can that be? we're playing SoM.
Nov 27 21:51:03 <mdp> _av500_, in dallas office ;)
Nov 27 21:51:09 <mranostay> mdp: unethical you mean
Nov 27 21:51:17 <_av500_> mdp: ow
Nov 27 21:51:24 <_av500_> say hi to people I know
Nov 27 21:51:27 <mdp> I'm used to a volume of music on my office speakers
Nov 27 21:51:33 <_av500_> sneak up to NishanthMenon and shout "mainline"
Nov 27 21:51:57 <mdp> "Hello to people that know av500!"
Nov 27 21:52:00 <emeb> then get a broom to knock him off the ceiling?
Nov 27 21:52:10 <mdp> _av500_: I'm afraid to venture to that wing for fear of getting swept away in the confusion
Nov 27 21:52:21 <_av500_> mdp: good thinking
Nov 27 21:52:34 <_av500_> mdp: hide between them calculatorz
Nov 27 21:52:40 <mranostay> mdp: worst week ever to be there
Nov 27 21:52:46 <_av500_> mdp: build a nest
Nov 27 21:52:54 <mdp> a nest of calculatorz!
Nov 27 21:53:19 <emeb> zombie calculators?
Nov 27 21:53:28 <mdp> counts the seconds to beer:30
Nov 27 21:55:47 <emeb> is it beer yet?
Nov 27 21:56:00 <_av500_> bbl
Nov 27 21:56:02 <_av500_> train swap
Nov 27 21:56:08 <emeb> beer back later
Nov 27 21:59:20 <mranostay> emeb: that is a new meaning for bbl
Nov 27 22:01:20 <emeb> so let it be written, so let it be done.
Nov 27 22:05:26 <NishanthMenon> _av500_, ??
Nov 27 22:05:45 <CareBear\> so you want to bitbang a calculator into counting down to beer?
Nov 27 22:05:55 <CareBear\> makes sense
Nov 27 22:06:02 <emeb> sounds like a good project for an rpi.
Nov 27 22:06:06 <mranostay> bitbanging!
Nov 27 22:06:11 <woglinde> yes
Nov 27 22:06:12 <mdp> CareBear\: it's crystal clear, yes
Nov 27 22:06:41 <mdp> I was reading the lm4f120 trm…it has bitbanded SRAM ;)
Nov 27 22:06:48 <CareBear\> oh SRAM even
Nov 27 22:06:55 <CareBear\> I still don't have those boards
Nov 27 22:07:02 <CareBear\> but they're supposed to ship in a few weeks..
Nov 27 22:07:02 <mdp> my brain went into overload…."bitbanding!!! bitbanging!!!"
Nov 27 22:07:12 <CareBear\> bitbanding takes it to the next level
Nov 27 22:07:13 <CareBear\> literally
Nov 27 22:07:19 <woglinde> beerbanging beerbanging
Nov 27 22:07:54 <mdp> CareBear\: it's clever, unless I'm missed it on other stuff, I don't recall an mcu I've worked on that had that before
Nov 27 22:08:05 <mdp> but then I've been away from the level of stuff for years now
Nov 27 22:08:08 <CareBear\> mdp : various Cortex-M3 have it for IO
Nov 27 22:08:33 <mdp> CareBear\: ok, I was wondering if this was something from these 32-bit arm generation
Nov 27 22:08:37 <CareBear\> nod
Nov 27 22:08:59 <mdp> a cute solution in any case
Nov 27 22:09:01 <CareBear\> it is
Nov 27 22:09:04 <mru> bitbanding is pretty standard on m3
Nov 27 22:09:12 <mdp> ok, cool
Nov 27 22:09:37 <mdp> I really like the word and intend to use it in daily conversation now
Nov 27 22:09:40 <mru> http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.ddi0337i/Behcjiic.html
Nov 27 22:09:44 <CareBear\> actually it's even in the ARM Cortex-M3 TRM
Nov 27 22:09:47 <CareBear\> yeah, there
Nov 27 22:10:03 <CareBear\> oh and also for SRAM
Nov 27 22:10:06 <CareBear\> ok
Nov 27 22:10:12 <mru> don't recall if it needs special hw externally
Nov 27 22:10:13 <CareBear\> not only for periphery
Nov 27 22:10:26 <CareBear\> externally as in outside of the core?
Nov 27 22:10:36 <CareBear\> -of
Nov 27 22:10:43 <mru> as in supplied by the soc designer
Nov 27 22:10:46 <CareBear\> "The processor memory map includes two bit-band regions."
Nov 27 22:10:47 <mru> not part of the m3 block
Nov 27 22:11:00 <CareBear\> would it be in the m3 trm if it wasn't in the m3?
Nov 27 22:11:32 <mru> it could be that accesses to those regions just enable some signal telling the external memory what to do
Nov 27 22:11:38 <mru> and it's up to the memory to implement it
Nov 27 22:11:51 <CareBear\> "The System bus interface contains logic that controls bit-band accesses"
Nov 27 22:12:07 <mru> you're reading the document, that's cheating
Nov 27 22:12:26 <CareBear\> how about that - actually reading documentation
Nov 27 22:12:40 * CareBear\ has superpowerz like that
Nov 27 22:13:07 <mru> but that gives open platforms an unfair advantage against closed ones like the rpi
Nov 27 22:13:13 <mru> and we can't have that
Nov 27 22:13:30 <woglinde> bitbanding can be used from c
Nov 27 22:13:32 * CareBear\ throws a pie in mru's face
Nov 27 22:13:34 <woglinde> intressting
Nov 27 22:13:41 <CareBear\> woglinde : of course
Nov 27 22:14:25 <mru> woglinde: you can do almost everything in c on m3
Nov 27 22:14:35 <mru> even interrupt handlers
Nov 27 22:14:52 <woglinde> hm what is mailbox in this content
Nov 27 22:15:02 <CareBear\> what where?
Nov 27 22:15:02 <woglinde> ups context
Nov 27 22:15:12 <woglinde> http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.dai0179b/CHDJHIDF.html
Nov 27 22:15:14 <mru> I would presume it's a mailbox
Nov 27 22:15:55 <CareBear\> #define MAILBOX 0x20004000
Nov 27 22:16:25 <woglinde> yes why mailbox I could name HORSE or what?
Nov 27 22:16:38 <CareBear\> of course
Nov 27 22:16:40 * emeb has been using a lot of m3, m4f lately. is spoiled.
Nov 27 22:16:46 <mdp> mru, I see that contiki puts that into practice in the stm32 port as it's all in C
Nov 27 22:17:16 <mdp> emeb: I'm enjoying learning it…seems pretty nice
Nov 27 22:18:10 <CareBear\> don't go overboard with CMSIS though
Nov 27 22:18:14 <emeb> mdp: mru is right - almost everything can be done in c - even initial setup, ISRs, etc.
Nov 27 22:18:20 <CareBear\> it gets pretty heavy on the macros
Nov 27 22:18:30 <mdp> CareBear\: panto was lamenting the 2-4 leadtime for .eu delivery of the lm4f launchpad..but it shows 4-6 weeks for .us delivery for me
Nov 27 22:18:49 <CareBear\> mdp : I got 11 weeks
Nov 27 22:19:00 <emeb> combine that with gcc 4.7 that knows how to use the dsp instructions and it's quite pleasant.
Nov 27 22:19:26 <mru> wow, someone saying nice things about gcc
Nov 27 22:19:26 <mranostay> mdp: i can sell mine at a grossly marked up price :P
Nov 27 22:19:30 <mdp> CareBear\: wow!
Nov 27 22:19:36 <mdp> mranostay, I have plenty :P
Nov 27 22:19:37 <mru> emeb: have you been smoking something?
Nov 27 22:19:45 <CareBear\> mdp : I ordered Sep 30 and have estimated ship Dec 10 IIRC
Nov 27 22:19:57 <emeb> mru: you'll notice I didn't specifically say gcc was nice.
Nov 27 22:20:10 <mranostay> and why isn't emeb sharing it?
Nov 27 22:20:16 <CareBear\> well, I didn't check in a while but that was it last time
Nov 27 22:20:47 <emeb> my neighbors are doing the smoking - it's just wafting in the window.
Nov 27 22:21:27 <mranostay> sure whatever you need to tell the police
Nov 27 22:21:41 <CareBear\> mdp : I guess someone underestimated demand a bit..
Nov 27 22:21:53 <CareBear\> which I can understand
Nov 27 22:22:02 <CareBear\> the MPS was not nearly as sexy
Nov 27 22:22:04 <CareBear\> MSP
Nov 27 22:22:30 <mranostay> CareBear\: well i think they rather be careful and not had 100,000 units rotting in a warehouse :)
Nov 27 22:26:14 <emeb> It's all because of that RGB LED.
Nov 27 22:26:25 <emeb> the kids are all using them for raves.
Nov 27 22:26:58 <djlewis> me too
Nov 27 22:27:17 <emeb> rave at djlewis' house!
Nov 27 22:27:34 * mranostay puts on some cargo pants
Nov 27 22:27:38 <emeb> won't your neighbors be surprised.
Nov 27 22:27:45 <mdp> CareBear\: especially at the original promotional $5 price
Nov 27 22:27:54 <mru> mranostay: did you join a cult?
Nov 27 22:28:16 * djlewis googles rgb rave
Nov 27 22:28:26 <mranostay> only if #beagle is a cult
Nov 27 22:28:26 <djlewis> finds rave gloves
Nov 27 22:28:46 * mdp finds rgb goggles at raves
Nov 27 22:29:02 * mru finds http://www.youtube.com/user/rgbraves
Nov 27 22:29:09 <mdp> mranostay was not asked to join the cult
Nov 27 22:29:34 <mru> http://dumbstuff.net/post/3530339858/rgb-rave-o-matic-not-so-lazy-sunday
Nov 27 22:30:40 <djlewis> jjust how many tabs will my FF 3.6.17 work with. . .
Nov 27 22:31:11 <woglinde> 100
Nov 27 22:31:57 <woglinde> oh no 180 3 times tripple 20
Nov 27 22:32:15 <CareBear\> mru : I don't get it at all
Nov 27 22:32:20 <CareBear\> mru : maybe because it is dumb stuff
Nov 27 22:32:33 <mru> I don't know there's anything to get
Nov 27 22:32:57 <djlewis> looks like a brain flush going on.
Nov 27 22:33:53 * djlewis has been considerig making some little rgb led cubes for gifts.
Nov 27 22:33:58 <djlewis> considering
Nov 27 22:34:26 <mranostay> djlewis: use the pru
Nov 27 22:34:38 * djlewis listens to the pru
Nov 27 22:35:25 <mru> post-recently used?
Nov 27 22:35:52 * djlewis puts away his light saber and destroys the rgb cube with his mental powers.
Nov 27 22:36:25 <mru> an rgb cube, is that half a rubik's cube?
Nov 27 22:42:29 <mranostay> djlewis: opencv + rgb cube
Nov 27 22:43:01 <djlewis> yes, the visible light spectrum detector project
Nov 27 22:43:04 <mru> running ont he cubieboard
Nov 27 22:43:20 <mranostay> those are really shipping now?
Nov 27 22:43:26 <djlewis> isnt that a cubiecape?
Nov 27 23:40:01 <mdp> prpplague: were you in the office today?
Nov 27 23:41:22 <prpplague> mdp: yea i had to leave early to pickup my daughter from school
Nov 27 23:41:27 <prpplague> mdp: did you make it in?
Nov 27 23:42:29 <mdp> prpplague: yeah, was in some meetings/discussions until recently...
Nov 27 23:42:37 <mdp> prpplague: I looted your office though
Nov 27 23:42:42 <prpplague> mdp: hehe
Nov 27 23:42:57 <mdp> prpplague: well, I tried to, but I can't find anything in there!
Nov 27 23:42:58 <prpplague> mdp: feel free to take the coffee cup with 10 day old coffee in it
Nov 27 23:42:58 <mdp> ;)
Nov 27 23:43:10 <prpplague> hehe
Nov 27 23:43:41 <mdp> stopped by to chat with mlocke at least, gotta head out with chase for an obligation shortly
Nov 27 23:46:40 <prpplague> mdp: understood
Nov 27 23:46:51 <prpplague> mdp: spare some time tomorrow?
Nov 27 23:54:22 <mranostay> prpplague: mmm old coffee
Nov 27 23:54:47 <prpplague> mranostay: hey bud
Nov 27 23:54:54 <prpplague> mranostay: did you need something yesterday?
Nov 27 23:56:38 <mdp> prpplague: yes, will look for you first thing tomorrow
Nov 27 23:56:43 <mdp> we can chat
Nov 28 00:01:58 <mranostay> prpplague: yeah probably figured it out i think
Nov 28 00:02:08 <prpplague> mranostay: ahh ok
Nov 28 00:02:11 <prpplague> mranostay: no worries
Nov 28 00:02:17 <prpplague> mranostay: sorry i missed the ping
Nov 28 00:10:37 <prpplague> mdp: and allocate some time for me to buy some bbq and beer
Nov 28 00:13:34 <prpplague> mranostay: btw, https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1FV_VIiqk4eSU1WbnliNm52Vk0
Nov 28 00:13:47 <prpplague> mranostay: has an interesting chapter on tubes for radiation detection
Nov 28 00:13:59 <prpplague> mranostay: not sure if it contains anything you don't already know
Nov 28 00:14:04 <prpplague> mranostay: but is in an interesting read
Nov 28 00:15:16 <panto> g'night guys
Nov 28 00:15:26 <mranostay> whoa that is  a lot of my nick there :)
Nov 28 00:15:42 <prpplague> hehe
Nov 28 00:15:54 <mru> mranostay: yeah, you're popular tonight
Nov 28 00:15:58 <mru> mranostay: how do you like it?
Nov 28 00:16:36 <mranostay> getting a little creeped out
Nov 28 00:16:40 <prpplague> hehe
Nov 28 00:16:55 <mru> mranostay: but only a little?
Nov 28 00:20:15 <prpplague> mranostay: did you get started on an elinux.org project page?
Nov 28 00:20:19 * prpplague nags
Nov 28 00:21:18 <mranostay> heh no
Nov 28 00:24:51 <beaglexmenthu> anyone to help me with beagle xm rev A?
Nov 28 00:25:39 <mranostay> topic
Nov 28 00:26:28 <beaglexmenthu> i am trying to run an embedded OS on beagle xm. i have ran into a road block
Nov 28 00:26:58 <beaglexmenthu> specifically related to interrupts
Nov 28 00:27:48 <mru> which os?
Nov 28 00:28:15 <beaglexmenthu> its an OS called XINU
Nov 28 00:28:38 <mru> how imaginative
Nov 28 00:29:16 <beaglexmenthu> it is mainly developed for academic purposes, but its also used in some appliances.
Nov 28 00:41:27 <Crofton> prpplague, is your do not drink list on a wiki?
Nov 28 00:42:20 <mru> put it on elinux.org
Nov 28 00:42:28 <Crofton> yeah
Nov 28 00:42:44 <mru> you get pizza if you do, remember
Nov 28 00:44:32 <prpplague> Crofton: hehe
Nov 28 00:44:39 <prpplague> Crofton: i'll make a note to do that soon
Nov 28 00:44:48 <prpplague> Crofton: as i may have lots of free time
Nov 28 00:50:42 <Crofton> prpplague, just start designing animal boards for all the processor lines they want to encourage
Nov 28 00:51:36 <prpplague> *cough* that has only one serious flaw....
Nov 28 00:52:00 <thurbad> only one?
Nov 28 01:12:13 <ds2> that reminds me... there was an article on using neon tubes for detection
Nov 28 01:12:20 <ds2> i.e. NE2s
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