**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Dec 11 03:00:00 2012 Dec 11 04:18:16 mdp: omg.... i just emailed a headhunter and wrote "please see my attached datasheet..." Dec 11 04:18:24 i meant my CV, hehe Dec 11 04:18:43 oi, maximum allowable conditions Dec 11 04:20:33 Russ: making it to ELC? Dec 11 04:21:42 should I go? Dec 11 04:26:38 ka6sox: if not for mranostay and mdp presentations, it is a great networking event Dec 11 04:42:32 so I need to fly to SF then to LAX then home... Dec 11 04:54:25 why is every MS Office update 'critical'? Dec 11 04:57:17 because 90% of ms updates fix 'remote attacker can get root' Dec 11 04:58:47 well 'root' Dec 11 06:40:51 prpplague, still gotta come up with a proposal Dec 11 06:50:25 Russ: any ideas? Dec 11 06:50:57 buy a ring, get down on one knee... Dec 11 06:52:22 i don't think prpplague swings that way Dec 11 06:52:34 not that is anything wrong with that (tm) Dec 11 06:53:23 mranostay, and a baseball game just seems to cliché Dec 11 06:53:47 so does banging the bits these days Dec 11 06:55:28 bits need love too Dec 11 06:55:38 all the bits? Dec 11 06:56:36 I should be done with rtc only ddr self refresh and hibernate well before then, but it seems like a thin topic Dec 11 06:59:11 rtc ddr self refresh? Dec 11 06:59:37 for am335x, turn off everything but the rtc and ddr (which is in self refresh) Dec 11 07:03:17 i would heckle^H^H^H^H^H attend that talk Dec 11 07:03:55 I gotta make a proposal in 57 minutes... Dec 11 07:04:48 er? Dec 11 07:04:58 for what? Dec 11 07:05:03 SCaLE Dec 11 07:05:22 tic toc tic toc... Dec 11 07:05:57 ka6sox: ah you fly back from ELC right to that i see Dec 11 07:06:19 ya, thats the problem Dec 11 07:06:26 back to back and it sucks. Dec 11 07:06:43 emeb_mac, no pressure :P Dec 11 07:07:00 ka6sox: got ideas? Dec 11 07:07:12 ka6sox: airfare isn't that bad i see Dec 11 07:07:29 Linux schedule: Model for real life. Dec 11 07:08:09 or prehaps: Dec 11 07:08:26 Scaling with Linux when you are embedded. Dec 11 07:08:43 I am thinking more along the lines of "Herding Cats" Dec 11 07:09:31 although LibHybris is pretty fascinating :D Dec 11 07:10:25 ka6sox: which hotel is it this year? Dec 11 07:10:41 SCaLE is at same as last year. Dec 11 07:11:26 where was that? didn't go last year either :D Dec 11 07:11:41 I recall it was different last year then the one before that Dec 11 07:12:00 this will be 3rd year in same spot Dec 11 07:13:05 oh Dec 11 07:13:21 thought the president of the club was saying they have outgrown that venue Dec 11 07:15:09 what is the plus of btrfs again? Dec 11 07:15:39 it makes you cool Dec 11 07:15:45 and it does snapshotting Dec 11 07:19:01 is it badass rockstar tech thought? Dec 11 07:19:39 *though Dec 11 07:19:59 ds2, 3rd year of a 3yr contract Dec 11 07:20:52 oh Dec 11 07:21:56 and we took all the 2ond floor Dec 11 07:22:31 guess this is the time to request...move it to someplace with decent parking Dec 11 07:22:35 say... in orange county Dec 11 07:22:57 much rather deal with john wayne then lax Dec 11 07:24:05 I grew up next to Eddie Martin's airport... Dec 11 07:27:16 irvine, irvine Dec 11 07:35:37 Russ I already drive hours :P Dec 11 07:35:57 only benefit...I can bug my Brother to watch the kids :D Dec 11 07:52:18 more places to stay, more places to eat Dec 11 08:04:51 Russ: don't forget beer! Dec 11 08:05:35 they have beer behind the Orange Curtain? Dec 11 08:23:26 moinmoin - fosdem crowd already gathering? Dec 11 08:23:27 ok second submission to ELC Dec 11 08:23:48 god i hope both don't on the off chance get selected :) Dec 11 08:27:43 koen: what is your booth thing at fosdem? ;) Dec 11 08:28:22 LetoThe2nd: openhardware stuff Dec 11 08:28:28 LetoThe2nd: and hopefully cco schwag Dec 11 08:28:43 koen: \o/ Dec 11 08:28:47 st nicks? Dec 11 08:33:09 LetoThe2nd: so you and av500 are drinking buddies? sounds dangerous :) Dec 11 08:33:56 mranostay: hehehe Dec 11 09:00:22 prpplague: ok started the wiki page Dec 11 09:00:55 need to read up on mediawiki Dec 11 09:34:55 morn' Dec 11 10:59:51 <_av500_> morn' panto Dec 11 12:19:48 <_av500_> ha: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Arduino-announces-ready-to-play-Esplora-1766122.html Dec 11 12:19:58 <_av500_> they are outinnovatin' us Dec 11 12:20:59 BeagleDPad in 3...2...1... Dec 11 12:24:30 fwiw, that's a potential 1000USD winner if submitted to the cape contest Dec 11 12:37:21 another reminder of why I'm not going back to sweden any time soon: http://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2012/12/x/265977/ Dec 11 12:38:26 moin Dec 11 12:39:58 a feminist political party proposed a law requiring men to sit while urinating Dec 11 12:39:59 rotfl Dec 11 12:40:03 that's great! Dec 11 12:40:07 that's sweden Dec 11 12:40:41 wouldnt it be better to proposse the girls to stand? Dec 11 12:41:07 it's faster, the toilets wouldnt be so conguested, and it would be equal Dec 11 12:41:17 Messy! Dec 11 12:42:19 mru: thanks.. i have to read that at home Dec 11 12:42:56 mru: and figure out whether there is some research on psychological damage of children caused by this egalitarian slavery Dec 11 12:43:46 probably too early still to tell Dec 11 12:44:03 well, if it's going on for a couple of years already, then it'll show Dec 11 12:44:40 psychological efects of early childhood social problems are usually visible in early teenage years Dec 11 12:45:00 yes, and these kids aren't that old yet Dec 11 12:45:08 but it's probably too early to have done some studies on that.. especially considering that psychology is today a mostly female and usian thing Dec 11 12:45:41 you'd never get public funding for such a study Dec 11 12:45:55 depends Dec 11 12:46:01 not in sweden Dec 11 12:46:02 you just need a good professor :) Dec 11 12:46:08 it's not up to the professor Dec 11 12:47:26 large projects usually go through some national science council Dec 11 12:48:03 and they're either already dominated by feminists are too cautious of drawing the anger of them Dec 11 12:48:18 same for individual universities Dec 11 12:49:01 you'd have to look for funding from some organisation that just doesn't care about that Dec 11 12:49:12 the NRA perhaps? Dec 11 12:51:56 such an study wouldnt be big Dec 11 12:52:08 you just needed a couple of dozen teenagers Dec 11 12:52:41 that's the beauty of psychological studies: beside the the people you test, they cost very little Dec 11 12:52:52 it's mostly paperwork and interpreting the results in your way Dec 11 12:54:05 oh look, my brother's ex gets a mention Dec 11 12:58:20 mru: did she go feminst? Dec 11 13:13:53 <_av500_> ...Classic fairy tales like Cinderella and Snow White have been replaced by tales of two male giraffes who parent abandoned crocodile eggs... Dec 11 13:13:56 <_av500_> awesome!!!! Dec 11 13:14:27 _av500_: let me guess, your first thought was that the crocodile babies will eat their giraffe parents as soon as they are old enough? :) Dec 11 13:14:34 at least mine was it :) Dec 11 13:15:45 <_av500_> KotH: no Dec 11 13:16:23 <_av500_> mine was more how many "awkward" thoughts thta can invoke in 3rd parties Dec 11 13:16:28 KotH: quite the opposite Dec 11 13:16:41 <_av500_> but I see the solution mentioned in the article Dec 11 13:16:43 <_av500_> hormones Dec 11 13:16:54 <_av500_> we have to inject girls with boy hormones and vice versa Dec 11 13:17:12 <_av500_> there ought to be a law for thta (in sweden) Dec 11 13:17:25 KotH: "Different gender roles aren't problematic as long as they are equally valued." Dec 11 13:18:35 mru: lol Dec 11 13:18:51 mru: but it's ok if women are valued more than men Dec 11 13:18:58 mru: like a mother is more valued than a father Dec 11 13:19:10 mru: fucking insane world Dec 11 13:19:11 imho Dec 11 13:19:21 insane coutry at least Dec 11 13:28:07 the thing is, i see that happening all over the world Dec 11 13:28:14 not as extreme as in .se, but it happens Dec 11 13:28:26 not in saudi arabia Dec 11 13:28:42 they're insane in the complete opposite direction Dec 11 13:28:42 might he the only sane place left in the world ;) Dec 11 13:29:56 as long as the idiots of this world don't get to be eaten by roaming lions, the average intelligence will drift to the stoopid side Dec 11 13:30:27 well, we could remove warning labels from things Dec 11 13:30:31 then reality will smack them up their heads and the pendulum will turn Dec 11 13:30:41 let the idiots piss on the power lines for instance Dec 11 13:30:59 mru, not effective enough Dec 11 13:31:02 <_av500_> mru: the burried ones? Dec 11 13:31:13 <_av500_> I mean, I have to dig one up to kill myself? Dec 11 13:31:22 <_av500_> too much effort Dec 11 13:31:25 mru: lol Dec 11 13:31:28 _av500_, stupidity & laziness come together :) Dec 11 13:31:32 panto: that was just one example Dec 11 13:32:01 next time you're outside, look around and think about which warning signs are completely unnecessary for _you_ to be safe Dec 11 13:32:06 maybe implant a subliminal suicide message to the beiber-songs that mranostay likes so much Dec 11 13:32:18 the ones that are stating the obvious to smart people Dec 11 13:32:27 mru: in .ch, a couple of weeks a go, a drunken teenager climbed onto train car and got electrocuted. his friend (and some "experts") accused the sbb to lable the lines as "dangerouse, do not touch" and that it said nothing that you can get electrocuted just by being near to them Dec 11 13:32:29 "caution, this cup is hot" Dec 11 13:32:34 mru: for me it was applied darwinism :) Dec 11 13:33:01 "don't put your hands in the leopard cage" Dec 11 13:33:42 panto: yes, things like that Dec 11 15:49:41 bone A5: MLO, u-boot -> mymake omap3_beagle_config on git://git.denx.de/u-boot.git master branch will work? Dec 11 15:51:51 am335x_evm_config Dec 11 15:52:03 aah.. thanks mdp Dec 11 16:17:59 <_av500_> mranostay: now, *this* is a geiger counter: http://mylapka.com/ Dec 11 16:19:42 wtf? Dec 11 16:20:42 _av500_: *sing* i don't like the drugs, but the drugs like me... *sing* Dec 11 16:20:57 _av500_: at least thats what the designers must be thinking all day. Dec 11 16:20:57 NishanthMenon: or just am335x_evm, no need for a config step then a build step these days Dec 11 16:21:17 Tartarus, aah :) old habits die hard ;) Dec 11 16:22:20 _av500_: seems cool minus the $220 Dec 11 16:29:24 Tartarus, ahh, yes ;) Dec 11 16:30:25 Hmm.. arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) 4.6.3 and kernel k.org master http://pastebin.com/WZvtjnAK Dec 11 16:30:47 that was with earlyprintk enabled Dec 11 16:32:42 I don't see you loading/passing device tree Dec 11 16:32:58 Tartarus, /me thought it was built in Dec 11 16:33:04 hmm.. /me double checks Dec 11 16:33:37 built in hack isn't mainline Dec 11 16:34:02 aaah... Dec 11 16:34:36 from my notes: Dec 11 16:34:38 mc rescan;run mmcargs Dec 11 16:34:38 ext2load mmc 0:2 ${loadaddr} /boot/uImage-3.5.0-09191-ga3a44f5 Dec 11 16:34:38 ext2load mmc 0:2 ${dtbaddr} /boot/am335x-evm.dtb Dec 11 16:34:38 fdt addr ${dtbaddr}; fdt resize;bootm ${loadaddr} - ${fdtaddr} Dec 11 16:34:49 modify to fit loading it all from fat :) Dec 11 16:34:57 and first 'm' in mmc rescan got cut off Dec 11 16:35:00 gee thanks Tartarus Dec 11 16:35:13 and, ug, my notes suck, that's before I used the standard variabl Dec 11 16:35:13 e Dec 11 16:35:26 s/dtaddr/fdtaddr/g above :) Dec 11 16:36:12 Tartarus, I see am335x-bone.dtb arch/arm/boot/ Dec 11 16:36:23 any reason to use am335x-evm.dtb? Dec 11 16:36:59 NishanthMenon: well, you're using the bone or the evm platform? Dec 11 16:37:07 Tartarus, bone :D Dec 11 16:37:35 There you go :) Dec 11 16:37:44 am335x has a kitchen-sink and kitchen-sink-lite EVM as well as bone Dec 11 16:37:55 alrity.. thx Dec 11 16:57:43 Tartarus, kitchen+WC sinks Dec 11 16:58:05 heh Dec 11 17:03:46 koen, mpd: with 3.7-rc8 do you see substantially worse performance? Dec 11 17:04:15 mdp: sorry ^^ Dec 11 17:09:18 I haven't run 3.7-rc8 at all Dec 11 17:17:04 Crofton|work: you bum, what are you doing in london? Dec 11 17:17:48 * NishanthMenon gumbles http://pastebin.com/nzBQdvZa Dec 11 17:21:30 I am not Dec 11 17:21:43 I wanted av500 to get me a flight Dec 11 17:26:57 NishanthMenon, maybe you just have to wait a bit longer... Dec 11 17:27:42 Russ, :D not that bad ;) - checking with early printk Dec 11 17:29:47 <_av500_> NishanthMenon: omap is a dead platform go use Allwinner Dec 11 17:30:17 _av500_, am != omap :D Dec 11 17:31:50 earlyprintk is silent.. something else going on :( Dec 11 17:39:07 NishanthMenon: not supported with DT Dec 11 17:39:17 DT will not fix this ;) Dec 11 17:39:53 mdp, i am sorry, I dont understand. do you mean k.org is broken atm? Dec 11 17:39:54 can't recall if the crude hack went in: https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/1393961/ Dec 11 17:40:19 <_av500_> try agile Dec 11 17:40:30 aah Dec 11 17:40:34 * NishanthMenon gives it a shot Dec 11 17:41:04 one of the many functionality gaps that DT introduced Dec 11 17:43:31 panto, that's a clear bug fix for davinci, btw, I'll have to get that marked for stable. Dec 11 17:43:49 k Dec 11 17:44:10 something else is broken around there too methinks Dec 11 17:44:19 unpossible Dec 11 17:44:24 but likely ;) Dec 11 17:44:31 oh yeah :) Dec 11 17:45:06 can't believe I'm looking at l17x codez now ;) Dec 11 17:46:28 mdp, with the above patch, I got to "Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel" Dec 11 17:48:48 at some point it worked for me..unfortunately, I'm a bit behind on the am335x side of the world...due to some "other assignements" Dec 11 17:49:22 earlyprint shows this: http://pastebin.com/yiuCtnfm Dec 11 17:49:58 'Error: unrecognized/unsupported machine ID' eek Dec 11 17:50:03 that looks promising Dec 11 17:50:18 except that u-boot is dumping a bad ID Dec 11 17:50:28 new u-boot then? Dec 11 17:50:28 since it needs to be -1 Dec 11 17:50:52 I could have sworn I just followed NishanthMenon building u-boot from git.denx.de too Dec 11 17:51:02 NishanthMenon: wrong image on there by chance? Dec 11 17:51:18 hrm, 2013.01 looks promising Dec 11 17:51:26 Tartarus: look here please Dec 11 17:51:27 bootm ${loadaddr} - ${fdtbaddr} Dec 11 17:51:30 missed this Dec 11 17:51:34 aha! Dec 11 17:51:46 I have set that all once and forgotten it Dec 11 17:51:57 got this now http://pastebin.com/UgMzxC7a Dec 11 17:53:50 fdt list and header seems sane (at least to me) Dec 11 17:55:53 "dtboot=run nfsargs;tftpboot ${loadaddr} uImage.bone2;tftpboot ${fdtaddr} am335x-bone2.dtb;bootm ${loadaddr} - ${fdtaddr}" Dec 11 17:56:13 from my uEnv.txt Dec 11 17:56:26 whatz the loadaddr and fdtaddr? Dec 11 17:56:30 you've got a typo Dec 11 17:56:38 provided by the default env Dec 11 17:56:49 on the upstream u-boot ootb Dec 11 17:57:18 lemme check, that one is unhooked from the bench atm Dec 11 17:58:01 mdp, thx. http://hastebin.com/tavaxayine.hs is what i am using Dec 11 17:58:35 * NishanthMenon steps out for lunch. brb Dec 11 18:03:59 Good Afternoon! Dec 11 18:06:01 NishanthMenon: fdtaddr=0x80F80000, loadaddr=0x80200000 Dec 11 18:06:36 fdt commands are unneeded Dec 11 18:08:26 ok _av500_ is slightly nfsw today Dec 11 18:09:35 Has anyone seen any UndefinedInstruction Exceptions when using the BeagleBone with the Ti Starterware? It appears to happen after resetting the device in the debugger (XDS100) without power cycling the BeagleBone. Perhaps there is something missing in the mac file? (I am using IAR) Dec 11 18:10:23 mranostay, lol, yes Dec 11 18:14:03 edoiron: you might find more starterware related help on e2e, this channel tends to be dominated by people running android, ubuntu, and sometimes linux. Dec 11 18:14:19 heheh Dec 11 18:14:24 ok perfect thanks alot!:) Dec 11 18:14:59 to the ph4r0ms Dec 11 18:15:08 well, it's true Dec 11 18:15:47 we're more likely to know about stellarisware! here Dec 11 18:16:22 mranostay, are those possibly the worst product names ever? and TI-RTOS too Dec 11 18:16:23 did you guys contract some of that work to a xyz company that i used to work for? Dec 11 18:16:31 :) Dec 11 18:16:51 heh Dec 11 18:18:11 NishanthMenon: All set'ish booting w/ mainline u-boot and kernel now? Dec 11 18:18:40 he's so set he went to lunch. Dec 11 18:21:31 Recommendations for a bb-xm (rev c) image that includes SGX demos? I have not been successful getting SGX to run using 2011 Boston ESC demo image. Dec 11 18:25:24 Tartarus: he's dealing with some u-boot/fdt issues it looks like Dec 11 18:26:13 mdp, I scrolled up and it looks like he's moved beyond the u-boot part of the weeds Dec 11 18:27:37 ahh Dec 11 18:29:52 could be, I thought he was stuck at the u-boot FDT creation failed! error Dec 11 18:30:42 mranostay: nice start to your project page Dec 11 18:30:51 my u-boot docs don't tell me what "fdt resize" is Dec 11 18:31:09 oh, found it Dec 11 18:33:08 Tartarus, did you see that one as the last pasted log? Dec 11 18:51:09 Hi Guys, I'm still having issues getting connman to automatically request an ip on my BBxM. I've tried using the connman-tests package without any luck. short of writing a stupid little shell script and creating a systemd unit file to match, I'm out of ideas. I don't like that solution though because it is a kludge. Any ideas? Dec 11 18:51:49 you mean DHCP? Dec 11 18:56:11 mdp, Tartarus - yep, the address change did the job Dec 11 18:56:37 thx mdp Tartarus Dec 11 18:56:44 np Dec 11 18:57:22 go forth now, and distribute patches ;) Dec 11 18:57:43 heheh.. now to spidev Dec 11 18:58:00 bitbang the world! Dec 11 18:59:36 NishanthMenon, mdp, fwiw, with https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/1393961/ I now get some earlyprintk.. Dec 11 19:00:02 Crofton|work: hey you and i are better trolls than mru still Dec 11 19:00:16 robclark, http://hastebin.com/xudegakoju.hs got me to boot Dec 11 19:00:48 robclark: yeah, I just hate carrying another patch around..I tend to just dump log_buf if I break boot Dec 11 19:01:03 now I am getting this far.. http://www.hastebin.com/huraleyece.coffee Dec 11 19:02:17 mdp: aren't patchs like pokemon? :P Dec 11 19:04:36 keep in mind that with a mainline kernel you're going to need to apply http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/1616566 to use MMC...once you get that far Dec 11 19:05:17 ahh, ok, that might be my next problem Dec 11 19:05:26 mdp, that probably explains why I am stuck at [ 1.489034] Waiting for root device /dev/mmcblk0p2... Dec 11 19:05:52 you have achieved all that can be achieved on mainline now, congrats Dec 11 19:06:37 heh Dec 11 19:06:47 arrgh.. back to ramdisk! Dec 11 19:07:07 why? there are trees around that go much further Dec 11 19:07:20 panto, /me no touchy forks Dec 11 19:07:25 * NishanthMenon has had enough of forks Dec 11 19:07:27 panto, I mean without applying the 100 patches Dec 11 19:07:48 oh well, enjoy ramdisk then :) Dec 11 19:08:01 panto, not much of a choice atm.. Dec 11 19:08:15 but i dont have much need of userspace usually.. so ramdisk is good enough for the moment Dec 11 19:08:35 See, I feel the same way most of the time, except it stops at U-Boot ;) Dec 11 19:15:38 userspace is for ... users Dec 11 19:16:24 NishanthMenon: yeah, if I'm doing a !work project I use the beagleboard-kernel tree as I need a full set of drivers to make things happen... Dec 11 19:16:47 pesky irritations ;) Dec 11 19:16:48 but for work it's just latest -rcX + dmaengine series Dec 11 19:17:07 which means no networking, etc, but I don't care in that case ;) Dec 11 19:17:18 ds2, don't get me going about *customers* ;) Dec 11 19:17:33 mdp: I concur Dec 11 19:34:59 * mranostay yawns Dec 11 19:50:46 panto: A20 and A31 seem to prove what has been talked about wrt allwinner walking right up the value chain Dec 11 19:51:08 mdp, it's still A7s (no A15s yet) Dec 11 19:51:14 that's ok Dec 11 19:51:19 but pricewise... Dec 11 19:51:44 it's a major step up from single a8 cores but cost-concious to wipe out all the mid-range competitors Dec 11 19:52:22 well, for cost sensitive consumer designs Dec 11 19:52:33 <_troll_> A7 is slower than A8 Dec 11 19:52:44 _troll_, yes Dec 11 19:52:48 but not by much Dec 11 19:52:54 <_troll_> depends on what you do Dec 11 19:53:09 right, most will pair the a7s with A15s Dec 11 19:53:12 <_troll_> neon is at least 4x slower Dec 11 19:53:19 panto, most? Dec 11 19:53:32 I know of designs that don't fit your mold Dec 11 19:53:38 <_troll_> a7 on its own is basically an arm11 with go-faster stripes Dec 11 19:53:41 oh... I'm intrigued Dec 11 19:53:43 just because you live in big.little land... ;) Dec 11 19:53:59 _troll_, as you know, it's all about armv7 ;) Dec 11 19:54:07 I just need to get this not-capebus thing done Dec 11 19:54:15 consumers love stripes Dec 11 19:54:16 <_troll_> mdp: yes, that would be the go-faster stripes Dec 11 19:54:24 and then I will do some damage on the !big.little land Dec 11 19:54:42 can you try to rename it to little.big? Dec 11 19:57:23 little.big land? Dec 11 19:58:50 the name is stupid Dec 11 19:59:01 some ideas are stupid too Dec 11 19:59:26 but asymmetric processing will be very common in the future Dec 11 19:59:44 for better or for worse Dec 11 20:00:10 there's only so much you can do with frequency scaling Dec 11 20:01:04 better to research sources of unlimited energy then Dec 11 20:01:16 physics is a bitch Dec 11 20:01:24 anyway, dinner Dec 11 20:01:37 dinner is a source of finite energy, but ok Dec 11 20:11:56 <_troll_> the arm naming committee needs a good beating with the cluebat Dec 11 20:13:35 at least allwinner has it right, they are >5x better than Apple's flagship SoC...very impressive Dec 11 20:16:52 the allwinner A10 is an A8 core? Dec 11 20:16:57 yes Dec 11 20:18:07 <_troll_> so far I think the Axx numbers are unique apart from A5 Dec 11 20:18:38 <_troll_> and the cortex-a5 has yet to be seen in the wild Dec 11 20:19:34 big.little worst name ever Dec 11 20:20:02 panto: thought of new name? Dec 11 20:20:03 <_troll_> aargh64 is a close contender Dec 11 20:20:19 that hurts my eyes Dec 11 20:33:35 My uboot mmc_root resets to ro when I reboot, I'd like to keep it rw Dec 11 20:34:25 ka6sox: and its little brother, A13 Dec 11 20:35:14 what is with arm numbering scheme? Dec 11 20:35:52 mranostay, just fwiw, I'm not talking about ARM..just a random vendor's parts Dec 11 20:36:14 heck...Qualcomm stuff has an A6 module... Dec 11 20:36:47 hehe..."aargh64", I must reuse that one Dec 11 21:08:31 mranostay: yes, I meant dhcp. Dec 11 21:08:46 How that for latency :) Dec 11 21:15:41 Anyone has had problems on bone because mmc_root is defined as read-only? Dec 11 21:16:23 I just switched to systemd and it's like it just started using that flag Dec 11 21:20:23 <_troll_> if using systemd causes problems, perhaps you shouldn't do that Dec 11 21:23:19 Hello Dec 11 21:23:50 <_troll_> mdp: mranostay: I'm disappointed with you guys: http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/bitbang Dec 11 21:25:10 <_troll_> _two_ entries is all you could manage? Dec 11 21:25:10 bitbanging is exhausting, I need a rest Dec 11 21:25:39 * _troll_ advertises the new search feature Dec 11 21:27:14 not one quote with "exact" or "steps" in it...shocking Dec 11 21:27:27 Got a question about the BB and LCD3, it is booted and running the default image however the LCD backlight seems to be flickering. Dec 11 21:56:51 _troll_: i don't see you --> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/troll Dec 11 21:57:49 <_troll_> mranostay: it doesn't feel right to add myself to the list Dec 11 22:00:52 well seeing that your troll skills on linkedin are less than Crofton|work and me :P Dec 11 22:01:19 <_troll_> only proves that linkedin is rather useless Dec 11 22:03:25 more lies Dec 11 22:03:40 sounds like a sore loser to me Dec 11 22:03:43 linkedin entertains between test cycles Dec 11 22:03:57 I like to endorse people to pass the time Dec 11 22:08:35 _troll_: nice people skills.. nice block list :) Dec 11 22:10:27 <_troll_> I consider it extremely poor people skills to block people who disagree with you just for disagreeing Dec 11 22:13:00 _troll_: were you in a thread that didn't make sense without those peoples comments showing up? Dec 11 22:14:12 <_troll_> mranostay: yes, and viewing the post without being logged in shows them Dec 11 22:15:19 oh nice :) Dec 11 22:18:49 <_troll_> for the record, I do not block people in that manner Dec 11 22:18:56 <_troll_> if I comment on a public post, my comment is public Dec 11 22:19:40 <_troll_> I have banned a total of 2 or 3 people from mailing lists or irc channels where they were being _very_ disruptive Dec 11 22:19:52 <_troll_> but that's different Dec 11 22:25:53 does anybody want to see my latest xbee zigbee project? Dec 11 22:25:58 https://plus.google.com/u/0/108380917869049424169/posts/MaLDc5pwK9p Dec 11 22:26:25 <_troll_> you should remove the /u/0 part of the url Dec 11 22:26:46 oh yeah? Dec 11 22:26:50 SilicaGel, cool Dec 11 22:26:51 https://plus.google.com/108380917869049424169/posts/MaLDc5pwK9p Dec 11 22:26:53 that works too? Dec 11 22:27:06 hmm i guess it does. Dec 11 22:27:34 <_troll_> if I open a tab with another account it has /u/1 Dec 11 22:28:08 oh i see! Dec 11 22:31:22 <_troll_> if I put a 1 there I see the post with my second account Dec 11 22:31:29 <_troll_> a 2 redirects back to 0 Dec 11 22:32:59 _troll_: the new identity fits ;) Dec 11 22:33:13 <_troll_> what new identity? Dec 11 22:33:38 it's not a superhero costume Dec 11 22:33:45 he just prefers the underwear on the outside Dec 11 22:42:20 g'night trolls Dec 11 22:43:30 heh Dec 11 22:47:36 Hrm 0013-beaglebone-create-a-shared-dtsi-for-beaglebone-based.patch didn't apply with git. Dec 11 22:59:53 nevermind, applied patches in the wrong order Dec 11 23:52:04 https://github.com/nmenon/uomapfs/tree/bone-devel at least ramdisk support on bone with master kernel, uboot Dec 12 00:02:10 wmat: send some of that inventory this way :P Dec 12 00:05:06 mranostay: heh, sand cash this way. I'll trade for guitars or old trs-80s ;) Dec 12 00:06:05 mranostay: although, most of it will get used this year a lot more as I hope to work on more tools, like OpenOCD Dec 12 00:52:30 Question! Does the Beagleboard-XM always require a null modem cable?? Dec 12 00:52:56 I can communicate without one from one tty port to another, on a different machine Dec 12 00:53:25 however I need to cross tx/and rx lines to read a device I have Dec 12 00:53:53 while this device can communicate without crossed lines to my non-beagleboard machines Dec 12 00:55:20 Beagleboard-XM -> nullModem -> GPSdevice = good Dec 12 00:55:44 Beagleboard-XM -> MtoFrs232 -> can't talk Dec 12 00:56:15 Beagleboard-XM -> MtoFrs232 -> anyTTYport = good Dec 12 00:57:23 damn I screwed that up. msg at 17.55 is supposed to be going to GPSdevice Dec 12 01:31:34 what is with people using consoles in vnc sessions... Dec 12 01:51:35 does anyone know why setting mux mode 6 on gpmc_wait0 and gpmc_wpn 'turns off' the usb host? Dec 12 01:52:18 is it muxed with the USB signals? Dec 12 01:52:37 i'm not sure. but mode 6 turns those 2 pins into a uart Dec 12 01:53:33 ah yeah looking almightly SRM it doesn't seem like that should happen Dec 12 01:53:35 afaik on the beaglebone there's no usb access on the P8,P9 headers whatsoever. i could be wrong but i wasn't able to find them. Dec 12 01:53:46 ah right d'oh Dec 12 01:54:07 so it's strange that setting those two pins would turn off the host. Dec 12 01:54:13 as in: no voltage whatsoever. Dec 12 01:54:45 if i go back to the default mux mode, it comes back alive. Dec 12 01:55:05 how about other mux modes? Dec 12 01:56:38 haven't tried other modes. the uart was what i intended to use. Dec 12 02:04:09 hi Dec 12 02:10:23 <_troll_> mranostay: when people use consoles through vnc, RUN Dec 12 02:10:47 i can't yet Dec 12 02:11:05 windows peoplez too Dec 12 02:11:20 <_troll_> yes, run from those Dec 12 02:12:27 _troll_: this guy has 31 ssh sessions open to the same box Dec 12 02:12:56 <_troll_> I have 15 open to my main machine Dec 12 02:13:12 <_troll_> many of them from the laptop across the room Dec 12 02:13:22 hi, I need to access a adc pcf8591 via I2C. i need to write/cross compile a driver for it. can some one please point me in the direction for cross compiling recompiling the kernel (from x86 to ARM) Dec 12 02:13:31 thanks Dec 12 02:13:57 _troll_: don't like screen? Dec 12 02:14:21 <_troll_> screen has nothing to do with it Dec 12 02:15:04 can you give a little background info such as which distro? kernel version,etc Dec 12 02:15:20 thurbad: don't try to be confused with facts! Dec 12 02:16:37 <_troll_> mranostay: I have ~20 xterm windows open on the laptop, mostly running ssh to the big machine Dec 12 02:17:52 oh sorry; Angstrom, 2.6.32. got the image built online from angstrom image builder Dec 12 02:18:56 do you already have the angstrom-setup-scripts repo downloaded? Dec 12 02:20:34 yes(?) in the image generated, there was a boot folder with lot of scr files. are they the setup scripts? Dec 12 02:21:20 I've been able to setup the beagleboard over network and can user eclipse to run programs. the chip shows up in I2C-detect at 0x48 Dec 12 02:23:18 run oebb.sh bitbake -fc devshell virtual/kernel Dec 12 02:23:49