**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 19 02:59:59 2012 Dec 19 03:00:47 lets all interview prpplague Dec 19 03:01:07 mranostay: hehe not gonna happen this evening Dec 19 03:01:11 hehe Dec 19 03:01:12 rum? Dec 19 03:02:35 mranostay: hehe too busy going through the datasheets on how to calibrate this "Apical" stuff on the new dsi bridge chips - http://www.apical.co.uk/products/assertive-display/ Dec 19 03:03:05 i think i broke my chair Dec 19 03:18:13 mranostay: time to cut back on the beer Dec 19 03:24:45 mranostay: or only have one stripper on your lap at one tip Dec 19 03:24:56 s/tip/time Dec 19 03:32:46 prpplague: primer is a christmas movie ;) Dec 19 03:39:19 Primer is nice. Dec 19 03:54:36 prpplague: if i was irc'ing from a strip wouldn't that be the bigger problem? Dec 19 04:58:10 *club Dec 19 05:57:48 hi Guys Dec 19 05:58:53 Will I be able to connnect an RS232 to hyperterminal on Windows with Beaglebone? Dec 19 06:00:13 Guest23547: why RS232C? it has an USB port Dec 19 06:01:37 I have a VB interface to control and display data through RS232 interface will this work on Beaglebone? Dec 19 06:05:59 anybody? Dec 19 06:07:40 I'm sorry, but what's a 'VB interface'? Dec 19 06:13:40 I mean I have built a VB GUI that communicates through RS232 with the micro for some other app, I would like to reuse this with Beaglebone Dec 19 06:13:49 hi this is Nagaraju Dec 19 06:14:28 any one there to help me its very urgent Dec 19 06:15:00 Guest23547: I believe what you've written is something that communicates through a serial port, not specifically RS232C. The beaglebone exports one over USB I think Dec 19 06:15:12 Raju: then call 911 if it's an emergency Dec 19 06:15:54 hi i want help on the Porting of android on Beagle-xm Dec 19 06:16:17 ok Dec 19 06:16:21 this task i have to close asap Dec 19 06:16:47 how about GSM and GPS? Can I connect these two externally to Beaglebone? If yes, through which port? Dec 19 06:16:50 Raju: ok, so tell your hardware adaptation team of 20-30 people to hurry Dec 19 06:16:57 im getting lots of errors on porting android Dec 19 06:17:37 hmmm we r the very start up company only 2 engineers working on it Dec 19 06:19:10 if u know please let me know it pleadse Dec 19 06:19:18 Raju: could it be that you have a different definition of 'porting' than everyone else on this planet? Dec 19 06:20:08 hmmm i know u dont know the answer just leave dont eat mind Dec 19 06:20:55 just dont come for time waste in to the community unless u dont have the stuff Dec 19 06:21:39 good joke, thanks. Dec 19 06:23:00 people who fail to google for prebuilt images should get their IRC rights revoked... Dec 19 06:29:19 dm8tbr: too light Dec 19 06:29:25 public shame is needed as well Dec 19 07:42:21 hoi zäme Dec 19 07:51:11 crap Dec 19 08:07:07 mranostay: that's not a very friendly greeting Dec 19 08:07:44 * mranostay gives KotH some chocolates Dec 19 08:07:51 does that make up for it? Dec 19 08:08:03 only if it's good swiss chocolate Dec 19 08:09:12 Hershey's ok? Dec 19 08:13:50 KotH: how is it in land of chocolate and money laundering? Dec 19 08:25:31 currently stressy Dec 19 08:25:59 unreasonable deadlines, customer visits looming, projects being late, and snow melting Dec 19 08:26:21 and hershey is neither good nor swiss Dec 19 08:26:24 ^^' Dec 19 08:33:46 KotH: i never stress too much even if it pisses off my boss :) Dec 19 09:00:27 um, when i compile the 3.8 kernel, where does uImage actually end up? Dec 19 09:00:33 i.... can't find it :v Dec 19 09:01:27 spacekitteh: usually arch/arm/boot Dec 19 09:01:41 it's not there :s Dec 19 09:02:09 there's no file named uImage according to find | grep uImage Dec 19 09:02:19 spacekitteh: and you are sure that you have the necessary mkimage stuff so it really gets created? what does the build process output? (pastebin) Dec 19 09:03:25 yeah i have it Dec 19 09:03:35 hang on uploading log Dec 19 09:04:39 hi Dec 19 09:04:52 Has someone been able to use UART2 on bbxm? Dec 19 09:05:05 ( using pin mux ) Dec 19 09:08:31 yeah i'm sleeping Dec 19 09:19:24 good morning Dec 19 09:28:41 I am unable to use the RTS/CTS signals on the board Dec 19 09:32:57 spacekitteh: do you actually build a uImage or do you just build a vmlinuz image? Dec 19 09:34:04 spacekitteh: note: `make` will not build an uImage Dec 19 12:51:33 KotH: oh. what does one do to compile it, then? Dec 19 12:52:01 i'm doing exactly what it says on https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/3.8 Dec 19 12:54:10 spacekitteh: you need to set "ARCH=arm" and "CROSS_COMPILE=" Dec 19 12:54:16 yeah, i do that Dec 19 12:54:26 also, I find it necessary to run a config step, besides just copying the config file. Dec 19 12:54:39 as in make menuconfig? Dec 19 12:55:04 no, I copy the defconfig to arch/arm/configs/beaglebone_defconfig and do 'make beaglebone_defconfig'. Dec 19 12:55:16 anyone have experience with SPI and the beaglebone? I need to figure out what i am not getting... Dec 19 12:55:20 what sort of build errors are you seeing? Dec 19 12:55:28 spacekitteh: ^^^ Dec 19 12:57:27 i don't get build errors Dec 19 12:57:31 i just don't see a result anywhere Dec 19 12:57:59 ls arch/arm/boot Dec 19 12:59:52 Makefile bootp compressed dts install.sh Dec 19 13:00:58 try 'make uImage-dtb.am335x-bone' Dec 19 13:01:07 still, seems odd there is no uImage. Dec 19 13:01:31 guess I'd want to see a pastebin of the whole build session. Dec 19 13:01:42 with the SPI interface on the beaglebone, do I need to pull SCL high and low for each bit I write out to SDATA? Also, I assume that I am pulling CS low during this operation, then back to high after, correct assumption? Dec 19 13:02:46 j105rob: guess you are trying to use it for input? Dec 19 13:03:06 no, it is a LCD, so output only Dec 19 13:03:40 then the peripheral drives SCLK and CS on its own, right? Dec 19 13:04:55 I am confused. The spec sheet for the LCD says: "when entering data SI = HIGH at the rising edge of the first SCL" Dec 19 13:11:15 jkridner: so typically with a SPI interface do I just write data to SDATA? Dec 19 13:12:11 data is only read on the rising edge of the clock then, soit needs to be there before the rising edge Dec 19 13:12:57 thurbad: how is that ensured? Dec 19 13:14:13 it's just a timing thing Dec 19 13:14:51 if you write too fast it will on read a sampling for instance Dec 19 13:15:11 data changes are not instantaneous Dec 19 13:15:57 SPI has a clock, no? Dec 19 13:16:52 isn't that SCL? Dec 19 13:16:55 yes Dec 19 13:17:05 are talking SPI or bitbanging SPI? Dec 19 13:17:06 there is a pin on the LCD, SCLK, which I have connected to P9_31 in mux 3 Dec 19 13:17:23 aint SPI on a beagle a solved problem? Dec 19 13:17:35 you're not using an actual clock signal? Dec 19 13:18:33 I don't have the pins and modes memorized :P Dec 19 13:18:40 sounds like the question is about how to set the polarity and phase for the slave device to operate Dec 19 13:19:15 I am not sure what you mean, I assumed that the pin on the breakout labeled SPI1_SCLK was the clock that would drive the LCD Dec 19 13:19:36 ^^ thurbad Dec 19 13:20:37 then as long as mode 3 is the correct muxing yes it should be the spi clock Dec 19 13:21:34 ok. so with that connected I have a clock signal being sent to the LCD, so that is all I need to do with regard to clocking? How is the frequency/baud set? Dec 19 13:22:14 did you google for beagle and SPI at all? Dec 19 13:23:16 av500: yeah, 3 days of it. Read all the docs I could lay my hands on. this specifically is related to the beaglebone. Dec 19 13:23:36 I have never done SPI before with any device. Dec 19 13:24:34 not a beaglebone question...rather a linux/spi question fwiw Dec 19 13:24:48 hi mdp Dec 19 13:25:33 j105rob: http://www.jumpnowtek.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=57&Itemid=62 Dec 19 13:28:42 j105rob: if you are on a 3.6+ kernel the board_info[] method for registering your spi devices' CSes/mode/freq is deprecated by DT Dec 19 13:31:51 mdp: thx. I knew I was missing something.... Dec 19 13:33:11 I was trying to do this in bonescript Dec 19 13:33:54 assuming that bonescript's shiftOut function would handle what I needed. Dec 19 13:35:06 bonescript is likely to take you down a path of pain and misery. Dec 19 13:37:02 :) Dec 19 13:37:15 is bonescript fast enough? Dec 19 13:37:33 no idea, since I have not gotten any results thus far :) Dec 19 13:38:15 basing all my ideas on the solution from this: http://www.gigamegablog.com/2012/09/09/beaglebone-coding-101-spi-output/ Dec 19 13:40:08 oh, that's why. -j9 was hiding the build errors ): Dec 19 13:42:31 j105rob: www.bpaste.net/show/65355 Dec 19 13:43:48 jkridner: ^^ for you Dec 19 13:44:01 er Dec 19 13:44:02 yeah that one Dec 19 13:44:04 x.x Dec 19 13:47:31 hi thrubad Dec 19 13:48:27 sorry thurbad Dec 19 13:49:30 i was wondering if any one could help me in compiling a adc driver for beagleboard Dec 19 13:58:28 i've been trying to connect pcf8591 i2c ADC to beagleboard C3, Angstrom, 2.6.32. the chip shows up in i2cdetect at bus 2 - 0x48 Dec 19 13:58:43 i need to build a ko driver file for it. Dec 19 13:58:56 i found a driver source at http://www.codeforge.com/read/22823/pcf8591.c__html Dec 19 13:59:16 help required: 1. the includes are not found in angstrom, where can i get them and their dependencies? Dec 19 13:59:23 2. opkg install task-native-sdk did not help in gettign the headers 3. where are the files for task-native-sdk stored in the fs? Dec 19 13:59:51 module.h linux/init.h linux/slab.h linux/i2c.h linux/i2c-sensor.h Dec 19 14:04:06 mdp: http://olimex.wordpress.com/2012/12/19/a13-olinuxino-comparison-to-rpi-apc-and-cubox/ Dec 19 14:04:11 allwinner is eating AMDs lunch Dec 19 14:06:55 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=4.7k+ohms Dec 19 14:06:57 neat Dec 19 14:07:29 it present the color code? Dec 19 14:08:10 it clicks the link Dec 19 14:08:12 yes Dec 19 14:08:34 av500, allwinner took TI's milk money too Dec 19 14:09:02 there is no link and nothing happens if I click on the url Dec 19 14:09:24 janne: sorry, you click the link :) Dec 19 14:09:59 av500, also, for all the fun made of them for doing multicore A7 designs, I think they have the right strategy for owning the mid range market next with those. Dec 19 14:10:08 smart roadmap, IMHO Dec 19 14:10:11 nothing happens if I click in my xterm ;) Dec 19 14:11:29 the performance per size comparison is quite arbitrary unless they compare die size Dec 19 14:14:40 a stack of tighly packed smartphones will have the same problem of getting rid of the heat as a stack of ultrabooks or blade servers Dec 19 14:14:54 * bradfa loves comparisons that assume x86 machines can't be made to consume low power when idle Dec 19 14:15:13 * bradfa also loves Windows, Rasp Pi, and AMD Dec 19 14:17:08 bradfa: they cant, its due to the instruction set Dec 19 14:17:18 the opcodes are too long to save power Dec 19 14:17:29 av500, I thought it was the microcode and the TLBs? Dec 19 14:17:51 migth be the A20 gate Dec 19 14:17:56 ah, ok Dec 19 14:17:59 I have doubts Dec 19 14:18:23 * bradfa wants hyperthreading on next ARM board Dec 19 14:21:04 I was reading some fanboys on g+ saying "the future is ARM" Dec 19 14:21:18 and I'm wondering how that can be if the present is ARM Dec 19 14:21:28 mdp, you bought me a present? Dec 19 14:21:40 "there shall be no more processor cores!" Dec 19 14:21:51 * mdp slaps bradfa Dec 19 14:22:06 * bradfa cries in shame Dec 19 14:22:06 bradfa, the only present you'll get from me is a crazy snowstorm Dec 19 14:22:16 mdp, ooo, are we getting one of those? Dec 19 14:22:24 * bradfa should look at weather reports more often Dec 19 14:22:30 bradfa, unfortunately it doesn't quite look that way yet Dec 19 14:22:36 white christmas? Dec 19 14:22:44 bradfa, if we are lucky Dec 19 14:25:14 bradfa, you have more chance than me, I suspect. we are just south of the lake effect snowline. Dec 19 14:25:28 sometimes we get lake effect here, but not as bad as buffalo Dec 19 14:25:40 or syracuse Dec 19 14:25:49 * bradfa crosses fingers for white christmas Dec 19 14:26:52 yeah, I imagine so...it's very interesting where I grew up on the lake to see how you track northeast along it and every 10 miles there's an additional 1" of snowfall per 24 hrs of storm all the way up to buffalo ;) Dec 19 14:26:56 roughly like that Dec 19 14:27:32 sometimes there would be an additional 2 foot just 20 miles northeast of us in a couple days of snowfall Dec 19 14:39:24 http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/12/19/habey-unveils-mitx-6500-mini-itx-embedded-board-powered-by-freescale-i-mx53/ Dec 19 14:39:31 A8 1GHZ is so last year Dec 19 14:40:57 SATA alert!!! Dec 19 14:41:10 run! Dec 19 14:41:15 apparently they didn't get the memo that no boards should have SATA populated Dec 19 14:41:33 but no gigE Dec 19 14:41:49 2.6.35...is that from this century? Dec 19 14:42:56 "no mention of availability or pricing" Dec 19 14:42:59 lalalala Dec 19 14:44:10 is this the beginning of Freescale getting "focused", like TI? Dec 19 14:44:51 wmat, yeah, they already announced a clear message that they were doing the same markets as TI Dec 19 14:45:11 wmat, then ST did the same thing coupled with their announcement of selling their stake in ST-E Dec 19 14:45:27 yeah, that's what I thought Dec 19 14:46:34 I still wonder what hope NVIDIA sees in that market Dec 19 14:47:13 mdp: automotive :) Dec 19 14:47:30 yeah, they just haven't made a big announcement I suppose Dec 19 14:47:37 and they are hiring like crazy, btw Dec 19 14:47:43 am I the only one thinking "locomotive" when people talk about automotive car electronics? Dec 19 14:47:57 jonand: I think "loco" Dec 19 14:48:39 "two omaps in every car" I was told in october.. Dec 19 14:49:10 heh Dec 19 14:49:16 jonand: what, only seat heating in the front seats? Dec 19 14:49:56 a Netra might be able to heat a pair of seats Dec 19 14:50:02 yet another place intel wins Dec 19 14:50:14 lol. I wonder how many MC68HCxxx05 there are in all the small electronic control boxes... Dec 19 14:50:49 jonand: a friend that has worked on those parts for years says the number in his Aston Martin is 20+ FSL parts. Dec 19 14:51:04 mdp: does Nvidia primarily do it's engineering in Austin or Santa Clara? Dec 19 14:51:19 everybody I know is being hired for Santa Clara Dec 19 14:51:26 for kernel Dec 19 14:51:30 ah Dec 19 14:51:33 and architect type jobs Dec 19 14:52:04 and to my knowledge, all the people interviewing from the ex-TI crowd are also targeted for SC Dec 19 14:53:03 av500, it's not lost on me that we already have 4 big semis all throwing their hat in the ring for the same IVI/ADAS market ;) Dec 19 14:53:21 a few more and it should be a glut of identical parts just like the mobile market Dec 19 14:57:50 don't consumers win, then? Dec 19 14:59:20 the OEMs win Dec 19 14:59:33 consumers don't purchase the raw material Dec 19 14:59:55 whether consumers win has little connection to the competition on the semi side Dec 19 15:00:16 I have doubts Dec 19 15:00:24 s/doubts/doubt/ Dec 19 15:00:34 no, plural, there's more than 1 Dec 19 15:01:00 not all of them are about ARM semis Dec 19 15:01:04 you aren't allowed to use that phrase and have a firm grasp of grammar Dec 19 15:01:19 mdp, sorry, I'll keep that in mind Dec 19 15:01:20 bradfa, there are other semis?!?? Dec 19 15:01:26 ;) Dec 19 15:01:30 you mean big trucks with 18 wheels, right? Dec 19 15:01:39 yes! Dec 19 15:02:12 I always wanted one of those when I was little Dec 19 15:03:03 I still want one Dec 19 15:04:16 Maybe you could put some ARMs in it? Dec 19 15:14:03 bradfa, LEGs are all the rage now Dec 19 15:14:26 +1 Dec 19 15:43:38 bradfa: this isn't G+ Dec 19 15:44:08 mranostay, I have doubt Dec 19 15:51:42 bradfa: +1 Dec 19 16:16:14 mdp & av500 and anyone else I have missed, thank you very much for your help!!! I finally got the LCD to light up over SPI. Dec 19 16:16:33 j105rob: cool, congrats! Dec 19 16:16:49 i am smiling from ear to ear!!! Dec 19 16:16:50 * mdp updates the big board with av500's helpdesk metrics Dec 19 16:17:18 j105rob: making stuff work is indeed much fun ;) Dec 19 16:17:32 it was a bunch of things.... num of bits in the word, clock freq, most significant bit first.... Dec 19 16:18:51 * alan_o is falling behind on the big board Dec 19 16:24:13 alan_o: brush up on your exact steps then. :) Dec 19 16:33:28 hello ! i'm always on Beagleboard. It refuse to display any image on my screen Dec 19 16:34:07 imformative Dec 19 16:34:18 i'm asking me, maybe it's alimentation, i have 5V 6mA Dec 19 16:34:18 *informative Dec 19 16:34:24 mranostay: this isn't slashdot :) Dec 19 16:34:34 euh 600mA Dec 19 16:34:37 who uses slashdot anymore? Dec 19 16:35:06 Well, I was playing on you saying "this isn't G+" to someone who said +1 Dec 19 16:35:45 I thought I was clever :) Dec 19 16:36:05 too early Dec 19 16:37:22 i don't how diagnotic problem ! Dec 19 16:37:37 ths: serial console? Dec 19 16:37:39 what does it say? Dec 19 16:38:12 can i read something with the ssh connection ? Dec 19 16:38:23 no Dec 19 16:38:27 well Dec 19 16:38:28 maybe Dec 19 16:38:28 arf Dec 19 16:38:42 if you can ssh to it, maybe you can read the dmesg Dec 19 16:38:52 you say you have 5v, 6ma Dec 19 16:38:54 that's very low Dec 19 16:38:59 but, with older debian version, it starts... but now no. Dec 19 16:39:23 sorry, 6mA (for KotH) Dec 19 16:39:46 600mA, it's ok ? Dec 19 16:39:56 that's probably about right Dec 19 16:40:04 I think it's 1W at 5v Dec 19 16:40:53 do you know diagnositic the HDMI out ? Dec 19 16:40:55 anyway...... if debian works, then you probably have all your connections set up right. Dec 19 16:41:06 ths: yes, using the serial console Dec 19 16:41:32 the default angstrom load should put video out, if it's booting correctly Dec 19 16:41:35 yes i think. What the utility of reset button Dec 19 16:41:41 what are you trying to use right now? Dec 19 16:41:48 the reset button resets the hardware Dec 19 16:42:30 ok, maybe my config was reseted Dec 19 16:42:34 ... arf Dec 19 16:42:57 the hdmi out isn't the default video Dec 19 16:42:59 ? Dec 19 16:43:22 you think the problem probably come from here ? Dec 19 16:44:38 I think by default it puts an image on both outputs Dec 19 16:44:58 angstrom anyway Dec 19 16:45:24 if you load an SD card with the default Angstrom load, then you'll get bootup and a desktop off the HDMI Dec 19 16:46:34 sorry i don't understand Dec 19 16:47:11 what are you trying to do? Dec 19 16:48:54 alan_o: i'm just trying to install debian Dec 19 16:49:20 ok, I thought you said Debian was working before? Dec 19 16:49:22 et display image on monitor Dec 19 16:49:40 older version of debian package elinux Dec 19 16:50:08 Have you asked anyone over there? Dec 19 16:50:38 because if an older version boots, and the newer one doesn't, it's likely either their configuration or the way you've set it up Dec 19 16:50:51 I've never done debian on the beagle Dec 19 16:50:59 http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian Dec 19 16:51:24 i asked anyone yesterday Dec 19 16:52:09 but log was ok Dec 19 16:52:16 and boot argument too Dec 19 16:52:55 so are those exact steps on the website the ones for the older or newer debian? Dec 19 16:53:36 Looks like RobertCNelson is the guy who maintains that page Dec 19 16:54:20 I don't know of him ever being on the IRC channel (unless he's not showing his real name). He's on the mailing list though. Maybe you'd have better luck asking there. Dec 19 16:59:30 alan_o: if i find a serial cable ... what do you think i must control ? Dec 19 16:59:41 my english is so good ... ;-) Dec 19 17:00:48 the serial cable will help you debug. It provides a console on the serial port. Dec 19 17:01:01 look at error messages, etc Dec 19 18:48:57 hello ! Dec 19 18:49:22 i always try to understand how beagleboard works ;-) Dec 19 18:49:45 now i connect to serial port, but it's the same like ssh. Dec 19 18:50:07 I really don't know how "active" dvi out ! Dec 19 18:50:30 ths: have you tried a different monitor yet? Dec 19 19:01:00 thurbad: yesterday, with older debian version, i have the image Dec 19 19:01:14 but i can try, yes Dec 19 19:01:44 ths: well ssh at 115200 baud and unencrypted Dec 19 19:01:54 and not a network protocol Dec 19 19:05:20 mranostay, and with stop bits! Dec 19 19:05:29 s/bits/bit/ Dec 19 19:05:33 can i bang them? Dec 19 19:05:39 yes! Dec 19 19:06:29 mranostay and mdp, this made me think of you two: http://scanlime.org/2011/04/spdif-digital-audio-on-a-microcontroller/ Dec 19 19:06:38 bit bang (sort of) spdif Dec 19 19:06:57 please dude i'm at work :P Dec 19 19:07:15 NSFW Dec 19 19:07:23 ? Dec 19 19:07:28 bitbang pr0n! Dec 19 19:07:31 :) Dec 19 19:07:47 work, what's that? Dec 19 19:08:00 holiday, what's that? Dec 19 19:09:31 mranostay: http://hackaday.com/2012/12/18/organ-pedals-fill-in-when-youre-bass-player-is-missing/ Dec 19 19:09:38 mranostay: make that as a USB HID Dec 19 19:09:57 mranostay: coding shortcuts, hehe Dec 19 19:16:38 mranostay: i change the screen... no image Dec 19 19:16:40 arf Dec 19 19:36:32 prpplague: so bass machine and drum machine Dec 19 19:36:43 you can really be a one man band :) Dec 19 19:38:21 mranostay: hehe yea, i was just thinking of using the pedals as buttons for a hid keyboard Dec 19 20:46:19 prpplague: been a troll-less week and half here... Dec 19 20:46:32 hehe Dec 19 20:47:08 Crofton|work: troll some Dec 19 21:17:15 prpplague: There are products just like that designed for HID keyboard. Dec 19 21:17:19 Let me find it.... Dec 19 21:17:27 I actually made their Linux API Dec 19 21:18:00 I guess there's a few of them Dec 19 21:20:37 prpplague: http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Digital-Control-Computer-IN-USB2/dp/B002MY6I7G Dec 19 21:20:47 That's the one I made the API for Dec 19 21:20:58 * prpplague looks Dec 19 21:21:21 looks to be only one button right? Dec 19 21:21:26 3 Dec 19 21:21:30 big one in the center Dec 19 21:21:34 ahh Dec 19 21:21:36 not sure how many you're looking for Dec 19 21:26:57 need a usb cowbell Dec 19 21:27:38 hi, i am a noob, i know :) How do i to extract a tar.gz to the rootfs partition on my sdcard? Thanks. Dec 19 21:32:55 qqtyin, You follow the instructions http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/ Dec 19 21:43:28 I have ping timed out, Please be so kind to send me the link again. Tanks. Dec 19 21:46:49 http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/ Dec 19 21:47:16 It is the same place you downloaded the image from... Dec 19 21:48:18 thanks, but i have a beagleboard xm. Is it the same place? Dec 19 21:49:09 There are likely instructions wherever you downloaded the image. Dec 19 21:49:26 Otherwise, probably the same instructions apply, just a differen filename of course. Dec 19 21:51:42 yes, but if i used the Narcissus distro it comes in a .tar.gz format, and to extract it i need a different linux command Dec 19 22:01:33 alan_o, thanks for the foot pedal link, it's on my wishlist now! :) Dec 19 22:04:40 bradfa: kickstart those vim pedals! Dec 19 22:04:52 i'll get one and totally regret it Dec 19 22:05:49 when I first saw the vim clutch I was ----><---- that close to build one too Dec 19 22:05:56 then I got distracted again Dec 19 22:06:26 you could make it like a motorcycle shifting Dec 19 22:07:00 bradfa: I know a guy who put the control key on it. I need to follow up and see if he's still using that..... Dec 19 22:07:04 clutch down to first puts you in ESC mode Dec 19 22:07:30 i'm sure some one has a vim keyboard overlay :) Dec 19 22:07:33 mranostay, a foot shifter would be interesting Dec 19 22:07:58 mranostay: that's what I need for vim :) Dec 19 22:08:31 that's why I use joe :) Dec 19 22:08:31 but modeling it like a CVT would be something that just anticipates the mode I want to be in Dec 19 22:08:46 mranostay: you ever seen folks play using a full foot pedal keyboard? Dec 19 22:09:16 prpplague, dave jones uses this, if it helps http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0062V76N0/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0062V76N0&linkCode=as2&tag=ee04-20 Dec 19 22:10:36 alan_o, ahh, yes, you've reminded me that you are an editor pariah. Dec 19 22:10:36 of course i would look insane in the office with a foot pedal Dec 19 22:10:46 and ever more so in a coffeeshop Dec 19 22:10:58 what is alan_o doing wrong? Dec 19 22:11:00 mranostay, not where you live Dec 19 22:11:49 is alan_o a emacs user? Dec 19 22:11:51 a foot pedal in the coffeeshop is more than likely not worth a glance Dec 19 22:11:59 like lack of pants in SF Dec 19 22:12:16 * mdp points mranostay at the "joe" reference above Dec 19 22:12:41 mranostay, I think alan_o talked about this editor situation at some barcelona bar IIRC Dec 19 22:13:55 use vim with a sane .vimrc? end of problem Dec 19 22:15:07 * mdp reminds himself, "when in doubt, quadruple check your pinmux settings" Dec 19 22:15:27 Hey, no local stores sell the serial adapter for my beagleboard classic, so I'm going to try to build one myself using a standard 9 pin serial cable Dec 19 22:15:46 To my knowledge i Just need to solder two single pin adapters to pins 3 and 5 of the cable Dec 19 22:15:47 right? Dec 19 22:18:35 don't know if this or #angstrom is the proper channel, anyhow: the opkg .conf file on my beaglebone has this address: http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/core/ipk/eglibc/armv7a/base but it doesn't exist, which one should I change it to? Dec 19 22:20:09 Russ: thanks! Dec 19 22:20:40 Russ: i was about to order that one but ended up ordering this one http://www.amazon.com/DrMeter-Digital-Illuminance-Light-LX1330B/dp/B005A0ETXY/ref=pd_cp_hi_0 Dec 19 22:21:30 Cykon: tincantools still sells adapter kits Dec 19 22:21:59 Cykon: http://www.tincantools.com/product.php?productid=16144&cat=0&page=2&featured Dec 19 22:23:19 Oooo, thanks for the link -> looking into it Dec 19 22:24:07 Hmm now, this does jtag and serial? Dec 19 22:24:42 mranostay: I'm a weirdo, no doubt, but I'm not the only one who uses joe in this channel :) Dec 19 22:25:44 that looks slightly better than nano Dec 19 22:26:48 alan_o, astonishing ;) Dec 19 22:27:23 everyone publically shame alan_o ! Dec 19 22:29:15 Hey, Alan Cox uses joe Dec 19 22:29:21 and he's hard core :) Dec 19 22:29:51 he also likes SFI Dec 19 22:29:55 I think it's way better than nano. Dec 19 22:30:25 I don't even know SFI Dec 19 22:30:37 tangent Dec 19 22:30:51 something he said in the capebus thread that made me laugh Dec 19 22:31:02 oh oh, Cox? Dec 19 22:31:06 recommending an Intel "solution" to a problem ;) Dec 19 22:31:28 yeah Dec 19 22:32:06 I like joe because it has an easy learning curve but at the same time a lot of power, and sane defaults Dec 19 22:32:21 emacs fails on #3, vim fails on #1. Dec 19 22:32:35 kernel fails on #1 Dec 19 22:32:49 unix fails on #1 :) Dec 19 22:34:04 I've seen the emacs people start playing tetris in the editor, and I've seen the vim people do cool tricks, but as far as power for normal everyday editing tasks, I think joe is pretty close. I watched a vi guy the other day counting lines on the screen to do a copy/paste. Dec 19 22:34:27 he doesn't know what he's doing then ;) Dec 19 22:34:39 need to climb the mountain Dec 19 22:35:11 exactly. When guys who have been doing it a long time are still counting lines, I think that speaks to the tool. But I'm not trying to start a holy war :) Dec 19 22:35:41 I think it's similar for most tools..people know maybe 10% Dec 19 22:36:11 The great thing about editors is that unlike other holy wars (braces, tabs), one person's preference doesn't affect anyone else, and that's nice. Dec 19 22:36:46 Well, except for the one time when my sysadmin symlinked /usr/bin/joe to /usr/bin/vim. That wasn't cool... Dec 19 22:37:07 that is cool, actually ;) Dec 19 22:37:30 evilcool Dec 19 22:37:35 Ooo, this looks promising http://www.frys.com/product/5229677 Dec 19 22:39:23 mdp: He fixed it when I started installing it in ~. Dec 19 22:40:59 thank you for your help guys! Have a nice day/eavining. Bye Dec 19 22:42:57 * mdp closes qqtyin's ticket and updates the bigboard. Dec 19 22:43:06 the /core directory doesn't seem to be updated anymore, I changed /core/ to /v2012.12/, in case someone has a similar problem and is looking at the logs Dec 19 22:43:15 alan_o, your helpdesk metrics are falling behind...your volunteer job is in jeopardy. Dec 19 22:43:45 * mdp pinmuxes and crashes the bone again Dec 19 22:44:32 * alan_o hangs his head in shame Dec 19 22:45:45 yeah, I completely failed on that one guy earlier Dec 19 22:46:27 we may need to cut your #beagle paycheck by 40% until your performance improves Dec 19 22:46:31 https://specialcomp.com/beagleboard/order.htm I should be able to buy the bulkhead, null modem cable, and the serial to usb from here, and it should all work correctly yeah? Dec 19 22:46:36 my technique is to usually just start talking about the problem long enough that someone who knows what they're doing will get tired of hearing about it and jump in and give a real answer :) Dec 19 22:46:37 40% of your current #beagle pay should be about? Dec 19 22:46:40 works good with ds2 Dec 19 22:46:52 alan_o, that's my trick! Dec 19 22:47:01 * mdp glares at alan_o Dec 19 22:47:40 It'd be funny if we got a table at ELC and brought an actual whiteboard with metrics on it. Dec 19 22:48:08 alan_o, if I was local I'd bring one of mine Dec 19 22:48:15 not moving it by aircraft though ;) Dec 19 22:48:26 oh yeah, that problem Dec 19 22:48:35 so it's up to ds2 or mranostay Dec 19 22:48:45 or ka6sox. Dec 19 22:48:52 help us mranostay, you're our only hope! Dec 19 22:49:13 what is this now? Dec 19 22:49:18 just missed #starwarstuesday Dec 19 22:49:40 alan_o, ??? Dec 19 22:50:13 I have to fly this year...(even though I could drive) Dec 19 22:50:28 too far to go from SFO to LAX in 3hrs. Dec 19 22:52:12 mranostay, when you said "untested" on that eagle cape template with the P6 connector...I assume that means you didn't use it for the geiger cape? Dec 19 22:55:12 yeah Dec 19 22:55:29 ok, thx Dec 19 22:55:44 and may not be 100% to scale :) Dec 19 22:55:50 hehe Dec 19 22:56:08 I decided at the beginning of this I wasn't going for "the end product" anyway Dec 19 22:56:30 as I mentioned, I decided to not bother with the additional I/O silicon Dec 19 22:56:40 otherwise I'll never get it done ;) Dec 19 23:07:43 you need the PMIC? Dec 19 23:11:06 mranostay, no, was just thinking about allowing stacking Dec 19 23:11:14 but then it's really unimportant to me Dec 19 23:13:16 mdp: so are PRU to PRU interrupts deterministic? Dec 19 23:16:45 pru to pru interrupts? Dec 19 23:19:43 mdp: in ./pru_sw/example_apps/PRU_PRUtoPRU_Interrupt Dec 19 23:55:58 Is there any real disadvantage to an opkg upgrade rather than just remaking the flash image, stability wise? Dec 19 23:56:09 or..in any way i guess. Dec 20 00:03:23 yeah upgrade will more likely than not break your rootfs Dec 20 00:04:24 hrmm...that could explain the recent breakage of my rootfs :-| Dec 20 00:07:20 hrmm, i'm seeing corrupted sectors...so maybe that's not what caused it. Dec 20 00:07:57 err, blocks...or whatever it is for flash **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Dec 20 02:59:59 2012