**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 30 02:59:59 2012 Dec 30 03:35:09 mranostay, Dutch residency card Dec 30 04:12:30 Crofton|work: i thought the clogs thing was a myth :) Dec 30 04:35:09 myths ? Dec 30 04:35:11 mmm Dec 30 05:55:06 prpplague: damn you and your nixie post :) Dec 30 05:55:14 * mranostay is looking at ebay for tube Dec 30 05:58:13 nixies are cool Dec 30 05:58:19 bit of been there done that Dec 30 06:04:47 mph_: yeah i have a 'nixie' project (actually VFD) Dec 30 06:05:21 i bought a nixie clock kitset a fre years ago Dec 30 06:05:34 its in the office now Dec 30 06:05:42 its synced by GPS time Dec 30 06:06:28 mph_: http://elinux.org/BeagleBone/PrussDemoSubmission Dec 30 06:13:05 i saw a project in the last day, where someones used an I/O port to create a FM radio Dec 30 06:13:07 directly! Dec 30 06:14:23 Im trying to find out about how the two ethernet ports on teh AM3359 can work Dec 30 06:14:36 two? Dec 30 06:14:41 yup. Dec 30 06:15:00 mph_: was it using the PRU? Dec 30 06:15:00 the chipset has two ports and an ethernet switch Dec 30 06:15:25 i belive so Dec 30 06:15:30 but this is competely new to me Dec 30 06:16:23 funny, how once you et started with these things, you keep finding more things you can do with them. Dec 30 06:16:56 yeah like the PRU :) Dec 30 06:17:48 id like to learn about ethercat Dec 30 06:19:02 i just ordered a couple of other TI dev boards Dec 30 06:19:13 since they had them ( and the beagles ) at 25% off Dec 30 06:19:14 mph_: work in automated systems? Dec 30 06:19:35 lighting control Dec 30 06:19:39 specifically Dec 30 06:20:01 but that now includes a lot of motion control Dec 30 06:20:54 i've found the beagle to be really a nice wee thing to play with Dec 30 06:26:22 mranostry, do you work in industrial control Dec 30 06:26:47 no i work in networking atm Dec 30 06:26:56 oh.. i used to do that for a living Dec 30 06:27:02 for 20 years Dec 30 06:27:03 mostly embedded stuff professional Dec 30 06:27:32 telco stuff Dec 30 06:27:53 MPLS, and WDM networks stuff Dec 30 06:27:58 but got bored Dec 30 06:28:17 yeah i only have working knowledge of those Dec 30 06:29:34 for the last 2 years, i've been building lighting control systems Dec 30 06:29:44 mph_: is the second ethernet exposed on the pin expansion? Dec 30 06:29:48 * mranostay checks the SRM Dec 30 06:29:55 not on the beagle :-( Dec 30 06:30:06 of course they don't document the PRU much even :) Dec 30 06:32:30 http://www.ti.com/tool/tmdxice3359 Dec 30 06:33:28 so does ethercat use the same signaling only adding another header before the ethernet frame? Dec 30 06:34:06 mph_: $10 more than a bone not bad Dec 30 06:34:11 im still getting to grips with it all Dec 30 06:34:17 they are 25% off right now Dec 30 06:34:25 and bones are as well Dec 30 06:34:45 i have too many of them :) Dec 30 06:34:49 :-) Dec 30 06:34:55 i just bought another 12 Dec 30 06:34:59 at 25% off Dec 30 06:35:00 don't have that many Dec 30 06:35:04 just 3 Dec 30 06:35:07 i wont' ahve that many shortly Dec 30 06:35:10 and one dead one Dec 30 06:35:23 i'm putting 8 of them into a job Dec 30 06:36:39 does'nt look like its very easy to get linux to run on that ICE thing though Dec 30 06:36:52 threres a long thread in the TI forum Dec 30 06:39:01 ah Dec 30 06:39:17 if it is am335x it should just work.. Dec 30 06:39:24 lol.. Dec 30 06:39:34 i also ordered 1 of these Dec 30 06:39:35 http://www.ti.com/tool/tmdssk3358 Dec 30 06:40:24 * Russ looks over at his evmsk next to the keyboard Dec 30 06:41:43 what's this about a 25% discount on bones? Dec 30 06:41:48 hi Russ-o Dec 30 06:41:56 hey Dec 30 06:45:05 oh oh soviet era driver ICs Dec 30 06:45:27 cue obligatory soviet russia jokes Dec 30 06:46:13 in soviet russit circuits drive you? Dec 30 06:46:32 that's the first one that comes to mind Dec 30 06:47:00 or "...circuits integrate you", etc. Dec 30 06:51:00 bone on sale ordered. thx for the heads-up. Dec 30 06:51:02 * mranostay pulls out the ARRL question pool Dec 30 06:51:13 going for a ham license? Dec 30 06:51:18 yeah Dec 30 06:52:31 Looks like my tech+ is up for renewal in a couple years. Dec 30 06:53:27 the band questions are probably the hardest.. everything else is basic EE classes Dec 30 06:53:44 Anyone ever encounter their beagleboard getting stuck on "booting the kernel" Dec 30 06:53:47 ? Dec 30 06:54:04 hello mr vague Dec 30 06:54:10 if you've got a bad kernel or a bad SD card Dec 30 06:54:36 cykon: 'custom' kernel or the SD card that came with the board? Dec 30 06:54:49 Well, I got the kernel from Narcissus Dec 30 06:54:59 emeb: this section on SSB vs AM is interesting Dec 30 06:55:10 It literally loads up and stops dead at "booting the kernel" Dec 30 06:55:27 i always though in AM the reciever generated the carrier frequency to tune too Dec 30 06:56:20 it can, but doesn't need to Dec 30 06:56:56 the AM signal never inverts, so you can just use a simple rectifier to get the baseband. Dec 30 06:58:24 there are so-called synchronous AM receivers that lock on to the carrier and provide somewhat better demodulation for weak signals - you'll see that often in SWL applications. Dec 30 07:02:51 not a RF expert .. yet :) Dec 30 07:04:14 cykon, did you see what you are passing as console? Dec 30 07:07:49 Yeah, I've found a few people with similar problems but none of the solutions have worked thus far -- here's my env variables + serial output incase you see anything i'm overlooking http://pastebin.com/N8xEdRG i'm overlooking Dec 30 07:11:52 emeb: AM has a USB and LSB right? Dec 30 07:15:46 mranostay: yeah - and they're identical / mirror images of eachother. Dec 30 07:17:45 ah Dec 30 07:21:01 emeb: this moonbounce stuff seems cool as well :) Dec 30 07:21:16 now there's an expensive hobby! Dec 30 07:21:30 heh yeah Dec 30 07:21:42 You should do a google image search of the enormous antenna arrays those guys build. Dec 30 07:22:13 1) my apartment complex would go apeshit 2) i like actually meeting people of the opposite sex :) Dec 30 07:23:41 i'm sure a satelite dish would push it :) Dec 30 07:23:43 Moonbounce....In an Apartment????? Dec 30 07:24:12 ka6sox: my point :) Dec 30 07:24:41 if i could afford a house in CA i wouldn't be interested in that. catch-22 :) Dec 30 07:25:47 http://googlesightseeing.com/maps?p=1400&c=&f=q&hl=en&q=36.3942+-121.6370&layer=&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=18&ll=36.402948,-121.646885&spn=0.003057,0.007167&t=h Dec 30 07:25:52 use that dish Dec 30 07:26:01 its close...only an hour or 2 Dec 30 07:26:39 nice Dec 30 07:27:52 ka6sox: coming to ELC? Dec 30 07:28:18 if I can find a cheap enough place to stay! Dec 30 07:28:57 mranostay, even though I met my future wife @ Field Day...I doubt she would let me have that dish in the backyard. Dec 30 07:29:06 hostel next door :P Dec 30 07:29:15 we should all get a private dorm :P Dec 30 07:29:20 in the Tenderloin???? Dec 30 07:29:39 it is on the same block Dec 30 07:30:14 I may have to stay in San Jose... Dec 30 07:30:27 why? it isn't much cheaper Dec 30 07:30:57 family Dec 30 07:31:02 ah Dec 30 07:32:15 going to be expensive no matter how I do it Dec 30 07:32:25 fly to SFO, Fly to LAX Dec 30 07:32:42 $300 ticket at most? Dec 30 07:33:15 * mranostay forgets he is single and can spend 90% of his paycheck on himself though :) Dec 30 07:33:17 unknown paste id Dec 30 07:33:30 oh? Dec 30 07:34:05 http://pastebin.com/9xDH3xVG Dec 30 07:35:50 'On Linux kernels version 2.6.36 and newer, use ttyO2 instead of ttyS2 (that's capital-O, not zero).' Dec 30 07:36:06 http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Kernel_-_Common_Problems_Booting_Linux Dec 30 07:36:21 Yeah I read that, I think I have 2.6.32 Dec 30 07:36:38 why not try a recent, known working kernel Dec 30 07:37:02 Because... that would make sense! Dec 30 07:37:11 http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners Dec 30 07:37:20 I was honestly just using the ones in the angstrom repo because I figured it'd work, but I guess I can build my own Dec 30 07:37:44 don't build your own yet Dec 30 07:37:52 oh, ok Dec 30 07:37:53 start with the images recommended on http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners Dec 30 07:38:26 Yeah, the confusing part from that is in the demo repo, there's no u-boot.bin Dec 30 07:38:29 only u-boot.img Dec 30 07:39:22 "Get the latest Ångström demo image (Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image......), MLO, u-boot.bin and uImage." Dec 30 07:40:51 mranostay, try $400 Dec 30 07:40:57 for EACH leg Dec 30 07:41:05 you can use the .img on the sd card Dec 30 07:41:08 bad timing Dec 30 07:41:30 I can fly for $185...if I want to take 12hr20minutes to get there. Dec 30 07:41:55 http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardNAND if you want to put it on nand Dec 30 07:42:25 or is there no difference, I don't remember right now Dec 30 07:43:02 I think the .img has an extra header Dec 30 07:43:31 I tried this before and it didn't work but i'll do it again in case I messed something up -- but I should be able to follow the guide with the .img file Dec 30 07:43:31 right? Dec 30 07:43:49 for sd? Dec 30 07:44:17 yes Dec 30 07:44:19 yes Dec 30 07:44:25 gtg, may the google be with you Dec 30 07:44:37 ok ill give it a go, gimme a few to reformat my sd card and such Dec 30 07:44:50 gg Dec 30 07:44:50 later Dec 30 07:44:51 mranostay, new plan...I'll do the same thing I did Last Year... Dec 30 07:45:23 (although last years destination was more fun) Dec 30 07:46:05 drive to SFO, go to ELC, Fly RT to destination, drive home. Dec 30 07:47:32 the question is whether we can coax emeb to ELC Dec 30 07:48:36 offer free beer Dec 30 07:48:47 rrright Dec 30 07:49:10 * ka6sox may just bag SCaLE and go to his deserted island again.... Dec 30 07:49:50 oh, wait...I may be speaking there....rats...can't just bag it. Dec 30 07:50:09 i am so going to be annoyed if i had to take vacation time to give a talk again Dec 30 07:50:22 by annoyed i mean quit :) Dec 30 07:52:00 its going to be a bad night...I took a nap from 5pm-10pm... Dec 30 07:52:20 ah bad ka6sox Dec 30 07:52:29 so up to 3a? Dec 30 07:52:59 I'm making progress on this kernel...think I finally have it sorted, Dec 30 07:53:17 now to see if it blows up the Bone Dec 30 07:53:28 up in smoke? Dec 30 07:53:50 ka6sox: so is SCaLE more of hobbyist thing? Dec 30 07:54:06 mranostay, its a mix Dec 30 07:55:05 Vendors have to know that they are going to be talking to folks who have NEVER heard of this "Linux Thing" before to seasoned vets. Dec 30 07:55:24 its a truely home grown show Dec 30 07:55:58 ah reminds me of the Ohio LinuxFest Dec 30 07:56:09 runs the gambit but more hobbyist Dec 30 07:56:27 less hobbyist as it goes on Dec 30 07:56:40 the quality of the papers is pretty good. Dec 30 07:57:04 when is it? CFP done? Dec 30 07:58:06 CFP is over and I think they have sent out acceptances. Dec 30 07:58:38 I wish I had something for ELC but I tend to be doing more Community Stuff these days. Dec 30 07:59:21 ka6sox: bah submit something Dec 30 07:59:32 most fun thing I'm working with is LibHybris... Dec 30 07:59:36 i suggest a bitbanging BoF Dec 30 08:01:01 if I had more time to work on the FPGA Cape I'd want to talk about reconfigurable computing...but for that I would need to spend the next 5 days finishing up this project (and that would not sit well with my Wife) Dec 30 08:01:58 I soooo want a Zedboard... Dec 30 08:02:29 but Santa didn't bring one this year... Dec 30 08:03:25 mranostay, more than a few of us in this channel have had no OPTION but to bitbang things. Dec 30 08:03:33 kinky Dec 30 08:03:52 ka6sox: well my "nixie" cape is all bitbanging :) Dec 30 08:05:13 i've coded more assembly for that than i've done ever :) Dec 30 08:05:28 for SLOW peripherals it is the only way to get the speed DOWN. Dec 30 08:06:36 ka6sox: well it is more anything would make this thing flicker :) Dec 30 08:06:48 have you see my demo video? Dec 30 08:07:11 no, not yet...Got Link? Dec 30 08:08:06 http://elinux.org/BeagleBone/PrussDemoSubmission Dec 30 08:09:54 this is for ELC? or ? Dec 30 08:10:05 yeah Dec 30 08:10:23 submitted two for ECL Dec 30 08:10:25 *ELC Dec 30 08:16:24 this other project I"ve been working on has kept me wrapped up more than I thought. Dec 30 08:16:42 another trip to the bay area in January too.. Dec 30 08:17:29 hmm what time? Dec 30 08:18:37 not sure which week... Dec 30 08:18:47 this time will be a week Dec 30 08:19:36 ka6sox: what part of the bay area? Dec 30 08:21:54 SouthBay....Fremont, San Jose, Los Gatos, Sunnyvale. Dec 30 08:22:08 are you in the City? Dec 30 08:22:23 fremont is not southbay! Dec 30 08:22:47 just as anaheim is not in LA Cty ;) Dec 30 08:23:34 i live in Southbay Dec 30 08:24:13 let me know if you are free "in town" we can grab a beer somewhere Dec 30 08:24:26 sure! I will be one evening I'm sure. Dec 30 08:25:15 ds2, its south of the dumbarton...I consider that South Bay Dec 30 08:27:10 i wish i could live in SF.. but i don't make that much or want to spend 50% on housing :) Dec 30 08:31:00 trure Dec 30 08:31:02 true Dec 30 08:34:16 funny thing is Mountain View apartments run the same as SF Dec 30 08:38:48 like i love MV but if had to pay the same for SF i'd live in SF Dec 30 08:39:34 hello ka Dec 30 08:39:40 ka6sox Dec 30 08:40:57 i'll have to buy you guys lunch Dec 30 08:41:07 i visit SF and LA several times a year Dec 30 08:41:28 southbay at all? :) Dec 30 08:42:31 Silicon Valley Dec 30 08:42:42 that would be southbay mostly Dec 30 08:43:54 * mranostay notes being from the midwest he never though of W+D unit being a luxury and paying 3x in rent was normal :) Dec 30 08:46:06 kewl Dec 30 08:46:58 not really :) Dec 30 08:47:16 yeah, it is expensive Dec 30 08:47:22 but i do like the people out here though Dec 30 08:47:45 i'm in the US enough now, that i've seriousy thought about buying a small apartment in Florida Dec 30 08:47:52 its not expenisve there Dec 30 08:48:18 mph__: if i could get a job with my current pay back in Ohio i'd be really happy/rich :) Dec 30 08:49:05 but zero jobs back there in any tech field that matters Dec 30 08:49:36 not doing DBA crap for an insurance company for $50k :) Dec 30 08:50:53 mph__: EU based? Dec 30 08:52:15 *whois's mph__* New Zealand? i have a friend that biking the country atm.. uppper or lower island? Dec 30 08:52:26 New Zealand Dec 30 08:52:29 :) Dec 30 08:52:44 Im about 30km north of Wellington Dec 30 08:52:52 no kidding Dec 30 08:52:53 which is at the bottom of the North Island Dec 30 08:53:11 my friend biking that area atm from his FB posts Dec 30 08:54:17 why are tech presentations SO BORING Dec 30 08:56:18 http://www.ti.com/tool/tmdssk3358 <--- this is a AM3358 based system with two ethernet ports Dec 30 09:02:40 mph__: if you see an american with a Reddit biking suit you've seen my friend :) Dec 30 09:02:52 ok, i'll try not to run him over Dec 30 09:04:31 that would be cool, thanks Dec 30 09:13:11 mph__: so question i know NZ is libeal on firearms ownership.. can you keep a handgun at home? :) Dec 30 09:13:19 no Dec 30 09:13:30 i woud'tn asy we are liberal at all Dec 30 09:13:58 you can't even easily own a hand-gun Dec 30 09:14:07 unless you belong to a gun club Dec 30 09:14:14 and then all the guns must be stored at the gun club Dec 30 09:14:38 we are allowed to own rifles and shotguns Dec 30 09:14:39 mph__: all? i thought long guns could be at home under a safe Dec 30 09:14:50 no automatic weapons Dec 30 09:15:01 well no automatic here unless you are rich :) Dec 30 09:15:17 yes, you are about to have a rifle in a certified gun cabinet Dec 30 09:15:36 i have no big problem with that Dec 30 09:15:45 you are supposed to also store the firing mechaism, and ammo seperately Dec 30 09:15:52 ah Dec 30 09:16:11 getting a firearms licecne will also take about 6 months Dec 30 09:16:22 although i do have a handgun under a bedside finger combo safe in case someone wants to kick in my door at 3a :) Dec 30 09:16:22 and the vetting process is quite extenive Dec 30 09:17:13 although in Cupertino that is not likely :) Dec 30 09:17:29 do you think that the person kicking in your door would likel be armed as well? Dec 30 09:18:26 don't care.. if i feel threaten and have no time to judge Dec 30 09:19:32 mph__: in some state if someone breaks into your house you have all legal right to defend yourself by any means needed Dec 30 09:19:57 CA isn't one but my bedroom is in a part of the house i have no other option Dec 30 09:20:27 i'd confuse them with an angstrom distribution Dec 30 09:21:29 heh you wouldn't confuse the .357 rounds heading out my bedroom door :) Dec 30 09:21:36 don't forget to stock up z-max, it might be a zombie Dec 30 09:22:51 ah Hornady you silly people Dec 30 09:23:01 * mranostay used to reload Dec 30 09:25:42 mph__: NZ is pretty safe right? there is parts of the USA i legally carried a handgun concealed and i really needed to Dec 30 09:25:53 like Moile AL (don't ask :)) Dec 30 09:25:53 its mostly safe Dec 30 09:26:03 theres places i woud'tn go at night by mysefl Dec 30 09:27:52 heh i don't think there is any place in this city i fear.. then again it is boring :) Dec 30 09:28:14 you can always find trouble if you want Dec 30 09:29:17 you'd really have to seek it in Cupertino Dec 30 09:29:31 maybe egg sheriff depot Dec 30 09:33:40 * ds2 makes a note to decline any deliveries to mranostay Dec 30 09:36:06 ds2: to or from? Dec 30 09:36:18 either Dec 30 09:36:56 not sure ds2 can refuse my deliveries :) Dec 30 09:37:05 oh its easy Dec 30 09:39:06 i should sleep now.. Dec 30 09:39:10 bbt Dec 30 09:39:21 i am just shutting your o2 off Dec 30 09:39:36 lol. Dec 30 10:08:33 I should sleep now too... Dec 30 16:38:57 Hello ! Dec 30 16:38:59 Can anyone help me to set up a TFTP link with my BeagleBone (running on archlinux) ? Dec 30 16:44:35 Did anybody answered anyone anyday here ? Dec 30 17:38:57 mranostay: what's with the CCCP logo? Dec 30 17:46:39 prpplague: hehe vfd tube marks Dec 30 17:47:17 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Quality_Mark_of_the_USSR Dec 30 17:50:12 mranostay: ahh interesting! Dec 30 17:50:40 mranostay: i take you liked that nixie clock Dec 30 17:50:44 i'm trolling with my photos now :) Dec 30 17:50:58 today it is a raspberry pi :) Dec 30 17:52:09 hehe Dec 30 17:54:40 ho ho hum Dec 30 17:54:45 * prpplague has a ton of work to do today Dec 30 17:55:30 prpplague: no holiday for you? Dec 30 17:55:37 or house work Dec 30 17:56:50 mranostay: CES is coming up and everything has to be ready to go on jan 7th Dec 30 17:57:18 mranostay: btw, looks like i'll be in the bay area in a couple of weeks for some interviews Dec 30 17:59:18 prpplague: want to have an excuse to visit the slots? :) Dec 30 17:59:52 mranostay: hehe Dec 30 18:00:01 prpplague: i see the AVN Expo isn't the same week anymore :) Dec 30 18:00:39 mranostay: hehe, i don't get to attend, just do the prep work, hehe Dec 30 18:00:51 * prpplague would kind of like to attend CES once Dec 30 19:22:30 * mranostay waves Dec 30 19:55:47 prpplague: what week of january, btw? Dec 30 19:56:35 mranostay: for the bay area visit? Dec 30 19:57:14 yeah Dec 30 19:57:48 so did everyone get a ship notice for the FRI2? Dec 30 20:00:32 mranostay: should be the week of the 10th Dec 30 20:18:52 alan_o: hey bud Dec 30 20:19:28 alan_o: run run! :) Dec 30 20:22:58 prpplague: yo! Dec 30 20:23:08 uh oh.... did I walk into an ambush? Dec 30 20:23:14 mranostay: ^^ ? Dec 30 20:23:21 reading log.... Dec 30 20:38:46 ho ho hum Dec 30 20:58:19 prpplague: smell the blood of an englishman? Dec 30 20:58:38 indeed Dec 30 20:58:47 * prpplague having trouble calibrating a display Dec 30 21:41:43 prpplague: get out the hammer of persuasion Dec 30 21:45:21 wmat: indeed Dec 30 21:45:50 mranostay: what FRI2 of do you speak? Dec 30 21:47:10 yocto day thing Dec 30 21:47:21 prpplague: you get a ship notice? Dec 30 21:47:44 is it a Kontron M2M thing? Dec 30 21:47:45 mranostay: they processed my address update, but no new shipment notice yet Dec 30 21:47:47 * prpplague didn;t do the yocto day since he was sick Dec 30 21:48:36 mranostay: i ate something the night before that had my blood pressure very high Dec 30 21:50:14 i not looking forward to being old take you guys if this is what happens :) Dec 30 21:52:16 mranostay: hehe Dec 30 21:53:33 *like Dec 30 21:53:47 prpplague: is there any pluses to being old? :) Dec 30 21:54:40 mranostay: handicapped parking? Dec 30 21:54:54 heh Dec 30 21:55:01 prpplague: being bald a handicap now? :) Dec 30 21:55:29 * mranostay runs away Dec 30 21:57:53 mranostay: hehe, hey, there some women that like a man with a bald head, hehe Dec 30 21:58:38 poor prpplague has to live in denial :) Dec 30 21:58:44 hehe Dec 30 22:01:03 When I start up my BB, I see "/usr/bin/node bone101.js" in the process list. I don't see anything in the init.d directory that kicked this off. Anyone know how this is setup to start on boot? Dec 30 22:01:23 prpplague: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_in_Paradise_(TV_series)#Series_2:_2013 Dec 30 22:01:38 koen: hey old person :) Dec 30 22:01:42 prpplague: I'll instruct my DVR to record them Dec 30 22:01:49 mranostay: punk Dec 30 22:03:02 koen: hehe thanks Dec 30 22:03:09 of course i only have 3 years and change to go. Dec 30 22:03:12 koen: i just read about it over the xmas holiday Dec 30 22:05:54 lumdidum Dec 30 22:06:26 * mranostay cuts woglinde off from the bat Dec 30 22:06:28 *bar Dec 30 22:07:01 working on my fax machine Dec 30 22:07:07 * koen wonders why networking in linux is such a mess Dec 30 22:07:16 hm? Dec 30 22:07:19 poptop is dead, accel-pptp is also dead Dec 30 22:07:31 accel-ppp is alive, but completely NIH Dec 30 22:08:12 and half of the libs I encounter still use CVS as scm Dec 30 22:08:34 * koen goes out to buy some sandals and white socks to prepare for using openbsd Dec 30 22:08:49 heh Dec 30 22:08:56 fuck CVS, visual source safe is where it's at Dec 30 22:11:12 heh Dec 30 22:11:36 ok enough of you guys for the afternoon...:) Dec 30 22:17:19 hmmm Dec 30 22:17:42 mranostay: would you say that a 1.2W savings on backlight power is significant? Dec 30 23:34:32 boo Dec 30 23:36:33 prpplague haha Dec 30 23:37:55 woglinde: ?? Dec 30 23:38:00 prpplague I would say thats a lot Dec 30 23:38:22 woglinde: ahh Dec 30 23:38:43 woglinde: just trying to get a general feel for what people would consider the amount to be Dec 30 23:41:06 1.2W out of a 4W power budget woudl be signifiacnt Dec 30 23:41:07 prpplague what you are working on with backlight stuff? Dec 30 23:42:09 woglinde: a new display bridge chip using this tech - http://youtu.be/Vp6CDBe4-sY Dec 30 23:45:05 ah I see Dec 30 23:45:13 you can use it outdoors Dec 30 23:45:50 i've head my head in datasheets Dec 30 23:46:57 looking at the beagles cousins Dec 30 23:48:21 what is that demo of Dec 30 23:50:09 mph__: http://www.apical.co.uk/ Dec 30 23:53:17 hm website looks broken Dec 30 23:53:40 ah now pictures working Dec 30 23:54:34 prpplague technic looks really nice Dec 31 00:11:38 yes it does Dec 31 00:54:08 morning Dec 31 01:07:15 morning? Dec 31 01:07:33 UGT Dec 31 01:07:55 blame ka6sox-away for showing me that Dec 31 01:23:20 prpplague: you mean more watts isn't good? Dec 31 01:23:58 mranostay: hehe Dec 31 01:23:59 no Dec 31 01:31:41 more pwoer more power Dec 31 01:37:39 wmat: ask me if i miss snow --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmctKriiGKk :) Dec 31 01:40:45 much reading of the datasheets Dec 31 01:40:50 :-) Dec 31 01:41:15 (1) the 3359 is the only member of the 335x family that will support ether-cat Dec 31 01:42:26 (2) The 'starter' board has two ethernet ports, they are connected the the 2 MII's, via PHY chips.. Dec 31 01:42:58 (3) the ICE board has two ports, connected via some different PHY Chips, and int hte PRU Dec 31 01:45:24 mranostay, not my fault Dec 31 01:51:53