**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 07 02:59:59 2013 Jan 07 03:18:41 * mranostay is cleaning out his apartment.. Jan 07 03:18:50 why do i have some of this crap? :) Jan 07 03:30:17 moving Jan 07 03:30:20 ? Jan 07 03:35:33 yup Jan 07 03:49:47 emeb_mac: well maybe not for a few months Jan 07 03:50:25 and my move it would be about 10 miles away Jan 07 04:11:45 mranostay: looks like i'll be in the bay area on thursday, but it will be going from one "meeting" to another Jan 07 04:25:04 oh, meetings Jan 07 04:25:07 fun fun Jan 07 04:27:56 special meetings and i don;t expect them to be fun Jan 07 04:29:12 oh we called those "come to jesus meetings" Jan 07 04:29:21 heh Jan 07 04:29:30 prpplague: short bus special? Jan 07 04:29:44 well, aint that fun Jan 07 04:29:50 i have two beagles workign together Jan 07 04:30:58 what is a group of beagles called Jan 07 04:33:11 results in puppies? Jan 07 04:33:35 mrpackethead_: depends on if they are covered with bar-b-q sauce or not Jan 07 04:36:24 mmm... bar-b-que Jan 07 04:40:13 hmm Jan 07 04:40:19 mranostay: http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=302&dockey=xml/c/f/cfc513b0553a62e46f34abbc1991c78a@endecaindex&source=19&FREE_TEXT=bootloader&rating=99 Jan 07 04:40:54 Comfortable working in Linux environment, toolchain and package management. Jan 07 04:40:54 Understanding of casino table games. Jan 07 04:40:54 Passion for software development. Jan 07 04:41:12 Gaming experience or familiarity with table games a plus. Jan 07 04:41:20 in Las Vegas. Jan 07 04:41:21 wtf is StarTEam Jan 07 04:41:25 what a dump Jan 07 04:41:59 prpplague: so they say no gambling problem do not apply :) Jan 07 04:42:03 *saying Jan 07 04:43:05 prpplague: i'm sure they background check even more than normal for that job. probably pulls in the Nevada Gaming Board to investigate you Jan 07 04:43:12 hehe Jan 07 04:43:49 mranostay: guess my plan of slipping in a rogue app in there "Office Space" style Jan 07 04:44:57 it is like superman iii Jan 07 04:44:59 wonder if you could put a worm in teh pokies Jan 07 04:45:22 tap the 1st button 9 times, the 2nd button 13 times, the 4th 4 times Jan 07 04:45:26 and you hit jackpot! Jan 07 04:45:45 i've learned that you can only own a few slot machines in most states Jan 07 04:46:06 of course they epoxy the roms so good luck even getting that far :) Jan 07 04:50:02 i thought about how to break the Lotto Jan 07 04:50:29 thats a much more tricky proposistion Jan 07 04:50:30 :-) Jan 07 04:50:48 about impossible Jan 07 04:51:30 better off becoming a criminal banker or just a banker : Jan 07 04:51:31 :) Jan 07 04:51:51 isn't this kind of an oxymoron? "Embedded Device Driver Consultant - Windows" Jan 07 04:52:54 there isn't enough money they could pay for that job :) Jan 07 05:04:12 mranostay: do you want a contract or full time job Jan 07 05:04:51 mrpackethead has contract work for embedded developers now Jan 07 05:04:58 and i dont' care where you are Jan 07 05:05:05 yjust deliver the end results Jan 07 05:05:43 but you dont' like debian Jan 07 05:05:45 :-( Jan 07 05:39:47 mrpackethead_: have a job description? :) Jan 07 06:02:03 <_av500_> mranostay: it's "debian all the things" Jan 07 06:05:03 hehe Jan 07 06:05:14 need stickers Jan 07 06:07:46 _av500_: i would hope you'd at least throw some clothes out the window driving by btw :) Jan 07 06:09:00 hola mhaberler Jan 07 06:09:12 hi! Jan 07 06:11:03 you noticed the linuxcnc port? Jan 07 06:16:37 <_av500_> mranostay: that would be "aiding you" and thus illegal Jan 07 06:16:47 <_av500_> another r-pi killer: http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/01/07/77-30-saa-250-telechips-tcc8925-board Jan 07 06:17:36 of course really my only arrest in Germany would being drunk and disorderly :) Jan 07 06:19:29 <_av500_> mranostay: :) Jan 07 06:21:18 * mranostay wonders how many miles he needs to visit FRA or MUC Jan 07 06:22:25 it's not an r-pi killer until the price < "$35" Jan 07 06:22:40 scare quotes because who actually got it for that much? Jan 07 06:23:19 r-pi killer is its annoying little features Jan 07 06:25:25 _av500_: only 50k miles + $600 :) Jan 07 06:25:58 what is a good time to visit germany that isn't Oktoberfest? Jan 07 06:26:48 no one does christmas like germany. Jan 07 06:27:46 <_av500_> emeb_mac: if you are into hot wine with spices inside Jan 07 06:27:55 * _av500_ prefers cold beer all year round Jan 07 06:28:14 but you can get that at christmas too, no? Jan 07 06:28:19 <_av500_> yes Jan 07 06:28:36 <_av500_> this year it was needed since it was balmy around xmas Jan 07 06:28:49 sorry but i see _av500_ and xmas in my future :) Jan 07 06:28:53 *don't Jan 07 06:29:11 <_av500_> I was out in the yard in a tshirt on xmas eve Jan 07 06:29:20 climate change is a nuisance. Jan 07 06:29:32 <_av500_> global warping Jan 07 06:29:48 <_av500_> emeb_mac: well, at the same time they had record freezing temps in russia Jan 07 06:30:03 <_av500_> so its more like climate chaos Jan 07 06:30:12 _av500_: you're probably one of the guys who swims in icy ponds though Jan 07 06:30:13 yeah whatever i just don't care :) Jan 07 06:30:26 <_av500_> emeb_mac: nah Jan 07 06:30:34 * _av500_ is a warmduscher Jan 07 06:30:43 i recycle my beer bottles that helps right? Jan 07 06:30:53 <_av500_> mranostay: totaly Jan 07 06:31:15 <_av500_> mranostay: your local Lion's chapter has less stuff to pick of the roads Jan 07 06:31:17 if i drink more that helps more right? Jan 07 06:31:52 mranostay: build a house out of old beer bottles. Jan 07 06:32:52 hmm Jan 07 09:10:19 My brave attempt at following 15.6.7.1 and onward in the TRM to set the DSI PLL as lcd clock in u-boot: http://pastebin.com/kN6hPdcb. Not working. Sad. Ideas? Jan 07 10:55:06 why am I awake? Jan 07 10:58:16 hi Philip, get back in bed :) Jan 07 10:58:44 i can knowck you out if you wish so? Jan 07 11:00:44 hi ant_work Jan 07 11:01:16 gm Jan 07 11:05:11 LetoThe2nd: you dont seem to be very awake Jan 07 11:05:37 KotH: did i ever claim i was? Jan 07 11:06:09 well... to nock someone out, you should be at least capable of standing upright Jan 07 11:07:01 * LetoThe2nd actually thought more of a mental knockout induced by nonsense instead of physical violence Jan 07 11:07:22 for the latter, i would not knock out myself, but send my fishspeakers. Jan 07 12:42:15 I have an IAR JLink with me. Does this and the IAR environment work with beagle board? Jan 07 12:43:33 finally, killer-USB: https://semiaccurate.com/2013/01/07/power-your-laptop-with-a-usb-cable/ Jan 07 12:47:46 aha, the holy grail of single cable universal docking Jan 07 12:48:03 a magical device Jan 07 12:48:17 hi mdp Jan 07 12:48:26 hey panto Jan 07 12:51:03 TGIM! Jan 07 12:51:10 boo! Jan 07 12:53:18 av500 should send you some steps to being positive Jan 07 12:53:25 av500: there goes the 'never reverse feed' stance... Jan 07 13:03:56 dm8tbr: hopefully both sides have to solve some NP-Hard crypto before the juice gets enabled Jan 07 13:04:17 they authenticate by each mining some bitcoin? Jan 07 13:06:10 yeah Jan 07 13:08:43 "but...but...but I need the juice to do the bitcoin mining..." Jan 07 13:08:51 here are 100mA :) Jan 07 13:30:18 100W? that'd be 20A@5V! what are these cables made of? Jan 07 13:30:34 gold pressed latinium? Jan 07 13:39:05 copper free oxygen Jan 07 13:39:11 99,9% Rauschfrei Jan 07 13:40:32 rotfl Jan 07 13:41:05 you're one of those who read audiophile sales on ebay for fun and pleasure? Jan 07 13:42:48 KotH: you didn't got educated by denon? Jan 07 13:45:00 the denon cat5 cable might be a bit on the expensive side compared to the electrical performance of similar computer style cat5 cables (price x 1000) but it IS good lookin!! Jan 07 13:50:00 KotH: my absolute ROFL was a test of CD players in "Audio" where they recommended to terminate an unused SPDIF out with a 75Ohm resistor, claiming that an expert can hear the difference between a carbon vs metal film resistors... Jan 07 13:50:24 I think I burned that issue on the spot Jan 07 13:50:31 the supermarket was not amused... Jan 07 13:52:47 actually, some audiophile phenomenas have substance. for example, screened fiber optic cables can cause ground loops, resulting in a warm cosy sound.. :) Jan 07 13:53:08 digital feedback loops can be annoying Jan 07 13:54:17 and never use urandom instead of random for audio algorithms Jan 07 13:56:09 the reduced entropy is hearable Jan 07 13:57:34 btw., lego will go arm9 ;) Jan 07 13:58:17 and linux Jan 07 13:59:20 av500: actually, carbon resistors can be heard ^^' Jan 07 13:59:47 av500: in most amplifier setups they produce an awfull lot of noise Jan 07 14:00:04 av500: but.. termination... oh.. my.. fucking...god... Jan 07 14:01:01 reminds me of that one big discussion among audiophiles who claimed that plugging in a 5USD clock into the power socket made a (positive) difference in audio quality Jan 07 14:01:17 aholler: sauce? Jan 07 14:01:19 KotH, waa? Jan 07 14:01:36 http://www.cnet.com/8301-34441_1-57562323/get-ready-to-program-legos-mindstorms-ev3-robots-are-here/ Jan 07 14:04:03 panto: seriously Jan 07 14:05:01 panto: even more seriously: a company selling those clocks with exactly that claim for 500USD started the whole discussion... and it took a couple of years for several journals until it finaly died out Jan 07 14:05:41 panto: it is documented somewhere on the net... i havent bookmarked it and i'm not going to waste my time looking for it.. but you should be able to find it Jan 07 14:06:01 I don't see how this is any different than selling miracle thinning seaweed cupcakes Jan 07 14:06:23 there is a big difference Jan 07 14:06:30 you make more money selling audio shit Jan 07 14:07:23 heh, victimized Audiots Jan 07 14:07:43 knowledge is power Jan 07 14:07:46 money is power Jan 07 14:07:50 so knowledge is money Jan 07 14:09:09 KotH: yeah, I know that carbon film is bad in the circuit Jan 07 14:09:32 but I doubt even the unterminated spdif out makes any difference Jan 07 14:09:49 later they tested different *optical* SPDIF cables for sound Jan 07 14:10:12 I guess they all bunch together once per month with a bag of weed and try to make up the most hilarious thing Jan 07 14:10:33 like "what outragegous thing can we write and they will still believe us" Jan 07 14:10:51 i think they are using something stronger... even weeds power will wear out Jan 07 14:11:39 av500: believe? anything Jan 07 14:11:49 people have know techincal education what so ever! Jan 07 14:12:21 heck.. a kid died a couple of weeks ago, because it climbed on a train car after a party and got electrocuted Jan 07 14:13:40 people started claiming that the SBB is at fault, because they lable everything "lebensgefahr bei berührung" and he didn't touch the cables! they didnt make it clear enough that just being near the cables could get you electrocuted!!!einself Jan 07 14:20:19 hopefully in 2012 HDMI cables quality has been demistified Jan 07 14:21:29 ant_work: 100usd gold plated hdmi cables are still being sold Jan 07 14:21:43 heh Jan 07 14:23:00 most exoteric concept is to have all pieces of the audio in phase Jan 07 14:23:34 what do you mean? Jan 07 14:24:20 mixer, recorder, amplidfier, all with the same poer-cord orientation Jan 07 14:24:26 *power-cord Jan 07 14:24:41 ah.. that kind of shit Jan 07 14:25:28 actually, with quite a few of audio manufacturerrs it makes a difference... but that's mostly due to poor ground managment and thus making ground loops over the power cords than anything else Jan 07 14:25:37 I understand the concept of eart/ground but I can't follow Jan 07 14:25:58 audio equipment usually doesnt have an explicit ground connection Jan 07 14:26:18 heh, yes, only some of them Jan 07 14:26:37 instead it uses some "virtual" ground and you get stray current trough the power cords Jan 07 14:27:15 it's not much.. nothing to worry, but when connecting equipment together, you get a little bit of current flowing trough the chinch cables Jan 07 14:27:30 and this can be heard at times Jan 07 14:27:49 that's where you use ground-lift or duct tape :) Jan 07 14:28:04 and yes, due to asymetry in the power supplies, turning power cords by 180° actually helps Jan 07 14:28:07 and wonder why the guy that just touched the mic is dancing so wildly :) Jan 07 14:28:14 lol Jan 07 14:29:03 av500: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtlYi1yLTVQ Jan 07 14:31:15 KotH: nice Jan 07 14:32:26 I have a rack full of midi expanders und bought an http://www.thomann.de/de/furman_m10x_e.htm Jan 07 14:32:57 but the stereo amplifier (1980's) has own power cord, w/out markings Jan 07 14:33:35 tbh I can't hear any difference reversing 180° this one. The others are supposedly in phase Jan 07 14:34:48 well, in the next life I'll do electrotechnical studies :) Jan 07 14:38:33 ant_work: make sure you have this as well: http://www.nucleostop.de/ nuclear electricity has some nasty sound issues too Jan 07 14:38:51 sauber :) Jan 07 14:40:45 yes Jan 07 14:40:53 sensationelle 789,- Euro incl. MwSt. Jan 07 14:40:54 squeaky clean power Jan 07 14:42:03 heh, looks like a rat-trap indeed Jan 07 14:42:53 now, do they sell those X-Ray Glasses? Jan 07 14:45:45 When developing a cape, devicetree-wise, would you recommend creating a dtsi for the cape, and a new am335x-bone-withmycape.dts or modifying directly am335x-bone.dts? Jan 07 15:00:48 jsabeaudry: where are the rest of the capes defined? Jan 07 15:01:01 jsabeaudry: the answer to that question should answer your question Jan 07 15:07:32 jsabeaudry, what kind of cape do you have? Jan 07 15:07:43 * panto is probably the one to answer your question Jan 07 15:10:33 panto, custom made Jan 07 15:11:05 jsabeaudry, right, I mean what kind of interfaces do you have on it? Jan 07 15:14:15 koen, there is some stuff regarding the dvi cape in the am33x.dtsi but nothing regarding the other capes, so it's hard to tell Jan 07 15:14:26 panto, GPMC, i2c, spi, Jan 07 15:15:19 jsabeaudry, I'm asking because all the per-cape stuff in the am33xx.dtsi & base dts are going away Jan 07 15:16:54 what you will end up doing is create a per-cape dts file Jan 07 15:17:01 which will have only your own bits Jan 07 15:17:15 and the loader will make sure to insert it when it's detected Jan 07 15:17:58 jsabeaudry, git://github.com/pantoniou/linux-bbxm.git branch not-capebus-v8 (for now) Jan 07 15:18:18 and look at firmware/capes Jan 07 15:20:12 panto, great I'll try to work from that Jan 07 15:24:36 panto, since the capes are .dts does that mean I give multiple .dtb in my uEnv.txt? Jan 07 15:24:55 jsabeaudry, no Jan 07 15:25:04 the capes are loaded after the kernel boots Jan 07 15:25:31 they are inserted on runtime, you don't have to mess with the bootloader at all Jan 07 15:26:57 Oh, interesting, that should simplify debugging the dts Jan 07 15:28:01 remember that the compiled dts files are now 'firmware' Jan 07 15:28:25 so if you want them to activate early you have to include them in the kernel image Jan 07 15:28:40 otherwise you'll have to wait up until udev responds to the kernel's firmware load request Jan 07 15:29:17 morning all and panto Jan 07 15:29:30 hi punk Jan 07 15:29:33 sobered up yet? Jan 07 15:31:20 * kkeller notes panto and mranostay are doing public jabs nowâ€¦ Jan 07 15:31:46 kkeller, he's desperately trying to hold on to his fleeting youth Jan 07 15:32:02 he can't be a punk when he hits the big three-ooh Jan 07 15:33:03 * kkeller hehe Jan 07 15:33:06 panto: cute Jan 07 15:33:19 before you know it, you'll be as old as we are! Jan 07 15:33:20 hahaha Jan 07 15:33:31 hi prpplague Jan 07 15:34:06 er nvidia is making a tegra handheld gaming console? Jan 07 15:34:09 mranostay: that Eagle tat stating to look like a pigeon yet? Jan 07 15:34:14 are they insane? Jan 07 15:34:27 kkeller: heh cute Jan 07 15:35:15 oh, openocd, I despise thee Jan 07 15:36:17 panto: greetings Jan 07 15:37:10 prpplague: panto is being mean! Jan 07 15:37:31 mranostay: oh? Jan 07 15:37:33 I admit it, I hurt the little snowflake's feelings Jan 07 15:38:41 mranostay, you are confusing honesty with cruelty...careful. Jan 07 15:38:46 mranostay, "though love" :) Jan 07 15:38:55 blech...s/though/tough/ Jan 07 15:39:01 "love actually" Jan 07 15:39:39 mdp: don't confuse me with your facts! Jan 07 15:39:43 +1 Jan 07 15:40:01 panto: get roped into watching that movie? :) Jan 07 15:40:18 had to Jan 07 15:40:24 there was dessert afterwards :) Jan 07 15:41:06 there was a desert afterwards? Jan 07 15:42:00 TMI Jan 07 15:42:11 there was Jan 07 15:44:27 * dm8tbr likes the music video from that movie. hi.lar.i.ous Jan 07 15:50:33 panto: although that movie sucked less than any Twilight one Jan 07 15:58:49 which movie? Jan 07 15:58:53 I even checked the log Jan 07 15:59:19 and by the way, mranostay, how do you know how bad specifically the Twilight movies suck? Jan 07 15:59:34 girl dragged me to one Jan 07 15:59:40 oh, wait, he did say Jan 07 15:59:41 ugh Jan 07 16:01:03 They're all on DVD at my house. I've never seen them, but they're here. Thankfully she doesn't make me watch stuff she knows I'll hate :) Jan 07 16:03:55 salut mranostay, prpplague, mdp, alan_o Jan 07 16:04:05 greetings Jan 07 16:04:06 hey we talk american in here Jan 07 16:04:23 ok.. ok... Jan 07 16:04:33 *peng* mranostay, prpplague, mdp, alan_o Jan 07 16:05:02 no panto? Jan 07 16:05:09 he is greek Jan 07 16:05:13 he doesnt need to be greeted Jan 07 16:05:20 :( Jan 07 16:05:35 panto: you know that i'm of turkish origin? :) Jan 07 16:05:40 yeah :) Jan 07 16:05:57 good! Jan 07 16:06:03 * KotH throws a stone at panto Jan 07 16:06:19 get along you two Jan 07 16:06:28 * panto catches the stone with his teeth Jan 07 16:06:32 we do..we do.. Jan 07 16:07:04 KotH: only the Americans with their delicate egos need to be greeted? :) Jan 07 16:07:23 and "self esteem" issues Jan 07 16:07:25 * mdp msgs mranostay in Amuricun. Jan 07 16:07:31 lol Jan 07 16:07:45 alan_o, esteem *this* !! Jan 07 16:07:47 ;) Jan 07 16:08:08 * panto listens to the team america anthem playing at the back Jan 07 16:08:09 * alan_o goes to play some emo music and cry. Jan 07 16:08:15 alan_o: you know how turkey and greece .. uhm....love eachother? Jan 07 16:08:30 I've heard of such things Jan 07 16:08:41 KotH: same difference :) Jan 07 16:08:47 think of it like Yankees Vs Red Soxs Jan 07 16:08:55 lol Jan 07 16:09:11 just a bit more deadly at times Jan 07 16:09:14 * panto had to translate to Amurucan Jan 07 16:09:53 panto: when was the last time a turkish killed a greek or vice versa? Jan 07 16:09:57 you guys are both tan i don't see the difference :) Jan 07 16:10:22 * KotH only remembers the time when a greek tried to pull down a turkish flag in cyprus... but taht was somewhen in the mid 90s Jan 07 16:10:33 KotH: what a rebel Jan 07 16:10:49 mid 90s for sure Jan 07 16:11:39 mranostay: flags can be quite deadly waepons... especialy for suicide Jan 07 16:12:25 Hi there! I want to get notified in a userspace app when the framebuffer blanks, what is interface for this? Jan 07 16:12:31 mranostay: two british soccer fans burned a turkish flag after their team lost a match against a turkish team... unfortunately they did it on the busiest place in istanbul Jan 07 16:12:32 er Jan 07 16:12:46 KotH: real smart Jan 07 16:12:50 mranostay: someone stabbed them within a couple minutes Jan 07 16:13:29 ok off to post office to pick some Ukrainian items Jan 07 16:13:48 parts from tschernobyl? Jan 07 16:14:12 hoi sp00k Jan 07 16:14:22 sp00k: the framebuffer does not have this interface afaik Jan 07 16:14:34 sp00k: have a look whether directframbuffer can do that Jan 07 16:14:48 if not, you're out of luck Jan 07 16:14:55 or send patches ;) Jan 07 16:15:38 there's an enabled file in sysfs for dss on the omap... if you want to poll that Jan 07 16:15:48 fb_register_client ? Jan 07 16:15:51 sp00k, KotH: FB_EVENT_BLANK in linux/fb.h Jan 07 16:16:15 sp00k: ok, ignore me... some filthy american corrected me Jan 07 16:16:51 KotH: hehe, thank you anyway ;) Jan 07 16:17:07 alan_o: thx, I'll try it Jan 07 16:17:53 sp00k: kas problem.. mer sin do zum helfe... mengmol Jan 07 16:18:11 ;) Jan 07 16:18:27 hey, I don't speak Klingon Jan 07 16:18:56 alan_o: i hate to tell you, but klingon is easier to learn than that language Jan 07 16:19:04 KotH: iu, das isch guet z wÃ¼sse :) Jan 07 16:19:46 alan_o: at least klingons don't have a different dialect per village Jan 07 16:29:34 mru must be alive "Someone in the Computer Software industry from Southampton, United Kingdom" <-- linkedin :P Jan 07 16:30:46 hehe Jan 07 16:43:39 hey, apparently SGI is looking for a "Linux Kernal Engineer." It's funny how most recruiters have little idea how oblivious they come across. Jan 07 16:47:10 mranostay: That same someone from Southampton approved my linkedin connect request the other day. Jan 07 16:47:18 alan_o: I'd like to see the recruiters face when someone with a deep Comodore background on their CV comes back to this... Jan 07 16:48:28 dm8tbr: You should apply with that! It does say "sense of humor appreciated" Jan 07 16:48:49 :D Jan 07 16:48:50 http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?viewJob=&jobId=4313892 Jan 07 16:54:26 we need to send out a search party Jan 07 16:54:39 I wonder if his router failed again (while he was traveling) Jan 07 16:54:41 pitchforks? Jan 07 16:54:50 torches? Jan 07 16:58:19 ho ho hum Jan 07 16:58:29 alan_o, I'm looking for a Linux Colonel position if you spot one. Jan 07 17:01:08 mdp: I'll keep my eye out. Jan 07 17:01:21 but leave your monocle in Jan 07 17:01:30 yes! Jan 07 17:18:05 ok.. now this is weird: i'm holding an official publication of the us department of commerce in my hands... and it has multiple pages of french text in it! Jan 07 17:22:10 koen: do you know of any reason the LCD3 cape would break Ethernet? Jan 07 17:26:20 jkridner, yes Jan 07 17:26:34 the pwm backlight interferes with the MII Jan 07 17:29:17 panto: :( Jan 07 17:29:20 any work-around? Jan 07 17:29:29 yes, set backlight at 100% Jan 07 17:30:03 hmmm /sys/class/backlight is empty Jan 07 17:30:17 hello again Jan 07 17:30:18 err, I mean do it in the DT Jan 07 17:30:42 root@beaglebone:/sys/class/backlight# ls Jan 07 17:30:42 backlight.11 Jan 07 17:30:46 from a bone with LCD3 Jan 07 17:30:58 what kind of LCD3 revision do you have? Jan 07 17:32:21 panto: set the backlight at 100%? how does that help? Jan 07 17:32:36 * panto kicks mranostay at the back of his head Jan 07 17:32:50 interference can't be generate by a steady state signal Jan 07 17:33:04 *generated Jan 07 17:34:12 I have an A1 Jan 07 17:34:16 geez that is bit much don't you think? Jan 07 17:44:31 jkridner, the 3.8-rc2 tree doesn't have that cape definition Jan 07 17:44:38 are you sure it's loaded? Jan 07 17:45:02 I'm running a 3.2.x right now. Jan 07 17:45:13 I'm not sure that the PWM is active... Jan 07 17:45:16 jkridner, heh, no idea Jan 07 17:45:23 probably the PWM is not working Jan 07 17:45:32 I remove the cape and Ethernet works. Jan 07 17:45:38 I put it on, Ethernet doesn't. Jan 07 17:45:51 Just trying to do a demo for CES. Jan 07 17:46:04 then it's enabled Jan 07 17:46:16 you should try to find out where the pwm is set, and set it to 100% Jan 07 17:46:26 probably in that infernal board file Jan 07 17:46:46 it says it is EHRPWM1 on the SRM, but I can't find that in the schmatics. Jan 07 17:47:02 hmm, wait a sec Jan 07 17:47:10 let me find something Jan 07 17:47:46 I don't see any backlight on the A1 schematics. Jan 07 17:48:12 ugh Jan 07 17:48:33 your board is A1 but it is enabling the A0 backlight Jan 07 17:49:02 the A0 backlight is on the tps Jan 07 17:49:10 oh? Jan 07 17:50:17 yep Jan 07 17:50:37 whatever J1 is connecting to... Jan 07 17:50:40 I'm not sure where J1 is. Jan 07 17:50:50 but LCD_EN goes to a buffer and then BEN. Jan 07 17:50:55 which goes to the LCD. Jan 07 17:51:05 But I don't know what J1 is. Jan 07 17:51:17 https://github.com/CircuitCo/BeagleBone-LCD3-RevA1/blob/master/BeagleBone-LCD3-RevA1-schematic.pdf?raw=true Jan 07 17:51:58 oh, maybe it goes to P8 and not all the pins are there? Jan 07 17:52:07 ah, that's what it is. Jan 07 17:52:20 J1 looks like the P8 connector Jan 07 17:52:24 10x2 Jan 07 17:52:36 err, no Jan 07 17:52:42 * panto gives up Jan 07 17:52:51 * panto is a s/w monkey Jan 07 17:54:26 it just covers part of the pins, so I think J1_4 connects to P8_4 Jan 07 17:54:49 j3 goes to TPS Jan 07 17:54:53 * bradfa thinks Jan 07 17:55:16 j1 goes to p8 Jan 07 17:55:22 j2 goes to p9 Jan 07 17:58:10 jkridner, according to that schematic you link to, it seems that A1 rev still has backlight on the TPS, no? Jan 07 17:59:45 panto, I give you +1 on eeprom patch, will actually be very useful for something I'm doing now, thanks! :) Jan 07 17:59:47 I'm missing it. Jan 07 17:59:50 where is the connection? Jan 07 18:00:04 jkridner, J3 on LCD board goes to P6 Jan 07 18:00:06 on bone Jan 07 18:00:07 no? Jan 07 18:00:14 The only signal I see that seems it could be a backlight is BEN. Jan 07 18:00:14 bradfa, you better speak up on the mailing list, it's the second time I've sent it with no reply Jan 07 18:00:28 panto, I don't run mainline, seems that would matter Jan 07 18:00:39 panto, but I'll be bastardizing it onto the psp kernel Jan 07 18:00:51 k. Jan 07 18:00:51 oh, those are connections on J3, not just signal names! Jan 07 18:00:54 bradfa, I know it's a pain but mainline is where things should go Jan 07 18:01:01 the psp kernel is just too painful for new stuff Jan 07 18:01:07 panto, yah, launch product is where I have to go right now Jan 07 18:01:13 mainline will happen later Jan 07 18:01:22 * panto steps down from the soapbox Jan 07 18:01:31 * bradfa props panto back up :) Jan 07 18:01:33 I understand, I had to give it a shot though Jan 07 18:01:33 panto, too stupid to live? Jan 07 18:01:43 the psp kernel? Jan 07 18:01:46 so, BL+ and BL- are the backlight. Jan 07 18:01:55 well, it's feature complete FWIW Jan 07 18:01:55 so, yes, it is controlled by the TPS. Jan 07 18:01:56 jkridner, I don't have an LCD, but that's how I read the schematic Jan 07 18:02:14 ticks all the checkboxes, but it's a pain to do cutting edge work Jan 07 18:02:15 jkridner, as panto said, if you have backlight set to anything but 100 or 0, Enet doesn't work Jan 07 18:02:29 ground loops are fun like that Jan 07 18:02:46 that, and EMI Jan 07 18:02:49 (not the record label) Jan 07 18:04:27 taking the battery cape out of the loop seems to have helped, but I'm probably just dodging that EMI bullet. Jan 07 18:04:33 Now, where is that TPS control? Jan 07 18:05:34 I see it on the I2C bus, but I don't see any drivers loaded for it. Jan 07 18:05:40 jkridner, board file :) Jan 07 18:05:49 bradfa: are ground loops like fruit loops? Jan 07 18:05:49 and possibly a few other places Jan 07 18:05:58