**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Feb 09 02:59:58 2013
Feb 09 03:10:24 <prpplague> pinmux , thy name be error
Feb 09 05:22:00 <joel_> mdp: hah! http://hackaday.com/2013/02/08/another-take-on-the-6502-computer/#more-94270
Feb 09 05:45:02 <mranostay> +!
Feb 09 05:45:05 <mranostay> gah +1
Feb 09 05:58:30 <emeb_mac> *@ / *2
Feb 09 06:03:25 * mranostay finishs slides again
Feb 09 06:18:48 <mranostay> emeb_mac: what is that?
Feb 09 06:19:10 <emeb_mac> just me being weird.
Feb 09 06:19:29 <emeb_mac> nothing new.
Feb 09 06:19:48 <ds2> arrrggg....slides
Feb 09 06:20:38 <mranostay> still can't believe my really technical talk didn't get accepted :)
Feb 09 06:20:51 <mranostay> recycled slides here though! :)
Feb 09 06:21:55 <emeb_mac> everyone preparing presentations?
Feb 09 06:21:58 * mranostay is a little grumpy that he was told he had to take PTO to attend/talk at this conference
Feb 09 06:22:18 <emeb_mac> bosses don't understand
Feb 09 06:22:26 <ds2> mranostay: what company? :D
Feb 09 06:22:36 <mranostay> ds2: shitty company :)
Feb 09 06:23:27 <ds2> not publicizing the company for all to pass on a piece of their mind? :D
Feb 09 06:23:55 <mranostay> i need to board another ship before i torpedo this one :)
Feb 09 06:24:16 <ds2> an asbestos suit should suffice
Feb 09 06:24:37 <mranostay> i wanted to say "good job ******* you almost guaranteed i'm going to try to interview now" :)
Feb 09 06:29:21 <emeb_mac> don't burn those bridges
Feb 09 06:29:38 <mranostay> emeb_mac: isn't that the second time you've said that today? :)
Feb 09 06:29:51 <emeb_mac> why yes, yes it is.
Feb 09 06:31:01 <mranostay> i haven't burned one yet.. even ones i won't cross again
Feb 09 06:31:37 <mranostay> like writing business intelligence reports. job #1 :)
Feb 09 06:31:47 <mranostay> well #2 if you coun't really bad jobs
Feb 09 06:32:23 * ds2 hands mranostay more tinder and gasoline
Feb 09 06:33:27 <joel_> can anyone confirm that papilio loader is just an xc3sprog clone (possibly adapted for a papilio board)?
Feb 09 06:34:34 <ds2> joel_: are you responsible for hacks in the rowboat kernel too?
Feb 09 06:35:16 <joel_> ds2: er, no. i don't do anything android
Feb 09 06:35:36 <mranostay> joel_: +1
Feb 09 06:35:50 <ds2> joel_: 'k... grumpy after dealing with that kernel today on the bone
Feb 09 06:36:28 <joel_> ds2: ah
Feb 09 06:37:38 * mranostay hands virtual beers around!
Feb 09 06:37:50 <emeb_mac> mmm... beer
Feb 09 07:11:31 <mranostay> mrpackethead: hey aussie
Feb 09 08:35:05 <_av500_> gm
Feb 09 08:35:34 <dm8tbr> mooo
Feb 09 08:39:48 <jacekowski> is it possible to get digital audio out of BB somehow
Feb 09 08:41:20 <_av500_> I2S is pretty digital
Feb 09 08:41:27 <_av500_> aka McBSP
Feb 09 08:41:37 <_av500_> hook up an SPDIF TX to it
Feb 09 08:42:26 <CareBear\> maybe the pru can bitbang into a r2r dac?
Feb 09 08:42:37 <CareBear\> look ma, I built a sound card
Feb 09 08:44:26 <jacekowski> i was hoping for other kind of digital
Feb 09 08:44:29 <jacekowski> like spdif or something
Feb 09 08:44:45 <dm8tbr> 08:41:37< _av500_> hook up an SPDIF TX to it
Feb 09 08:45:10 <jacekowski> narcissus down?
Feb 09 08:46:25 <dm8tbr> yes, it's moving
Feb 09 08:46:37 <dm8tbr> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.beagleboard.user/13918 - look someone already asked your question...
Feb 09 09:06:52 <_av500_> http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/spdif_transceivers/WM8804/
Feb 09 09:11:20 <_av500_> http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/cs8406.html
Feb 09 11:23:58 <mru> so is everyone hung over today or what's with the silence?
Feb 09 11:26:02 <dm8tbr> everybody is standing by for you to give exact steps for saturday procedure
Feb 09 11:26:46 <mru> like friday but with more cats
Feb 09 11:29:28 * dm8tbr notices the distinct lack of #caturday in his g+ stream
Feb 09 11:29:56 <mru> _av500_: are you ok??
Feb 09 11:35:20 <vij> My Beaglebone stops @ Uncompressing Linux … done, booting the kernel...
Feb 09 11:36:19 <vij> Am using the kernel built out of ti-sdk-am335x-evm-05.06.00.00
Feb 09 11:36:52 <vij> Have not changed anything and am using the am335x_evm_defconfig
Feb 09 11:37:08 <mru> maybe that's your problem
Feb 09 11:37:09 <vij> am i missing anything?
Feb 09 11:40:09 <dm8tbr> vij: yes, you haven't asked your supvervisor for a different project yet.
Feb 09 11:41:42 <mru> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/43
Feb 09 11:44:21 <vij> dm8tbr: am just trying out some experiments on teh beaglebone and was hoping some head-up for the initial hiccups
Feb 09 11:46:09 <vij> thought i could get some help here.., and if anyone had faced this issue earlier?
Feb 09 11:46:26 <dm8tbr> vij: yesterday you were trying to run 3.7 or 3.8 without understanding what you were doing, now you're using a bsp that's probably not meant for the hardware. My question is: why?
Feb 09 11:49:44 <vij> dm8tbr: Hey, thanks for tracking this., am trying get some of the peripherals working on the beagle bone with different versions of the kernel. Yesterday i was checking with the 3.2.24, which was giving me kernel panic.
Feb 09 11:50:16 <vij> i changed teh uEnv.txt accordingly and now it hangs @ booting kernel..
Feb 09 11:50:37 <dm8tbr> vij: maybe you just should take some exact steps backwards and try to explain what your actual project is about
Feb 09 12:00:38 <vij> dm8tbr:ok.., thanks for probing.., the task is to stick to the proper version of the kernel..,
Feb 09 12:15:48 <_av500_> mru: there
Feb 09 12:18:13 <mru> that's only a small kitten
Feb 09 12:19:58 <mru> we demand a full-size CAT
Feb 09 12:22:23 <dm8tbr> vij: define 'proper version of the kernel'
Feb 09 12:26:01 <vij> dm8tbr : it is 3.2.0 or 3.2.24; both stops at the same point
Feb 09 12:26:52 <dm8tbr> vij: I believe there is a 3.2.x kernel that does work on the beaglebone, why don't you use that?
Feb 09 12:31:25 <koen> and follow the instructions in the readme
Feb 09 12:31:32 <koen> since that's where you keep failing
Feb 09 12:31:37 <koen> or flailing
Feb 09 12:38:23 <vij> I did follow the Readme here https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/beaglebone-3.2 but am still flailing :-(
Feb 09 12:41:43 <koen> and where did that say not to use configs/beaglebone and use am335x_evm_defconfig?
Feb 09 12:42:11 <koen> the 3.8 readme has even more exact steps next to the codez
Feb 09 12:44:17 <Hamed> can some one help me?
Feb 09 12:44:30 <mru> we don't know
Feb 09 12:49:44 <Hamed_> can i read from gpio port when running android on beagle board?
Feb 09 12:50:12 <Hamed_> ls
Feb 09 12:50:48 <mru> .
Feb 09 12:50:51 <mru> ..
Feb 09 12:52:54 <dm8tbr> 0daysploits
Feb 09 12:53:00 <dm8tbr> pr0n
Feb 09 12:53:14 <vij> <koen> I was following this http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/AMSDK_Linux_User%27s_Guide
Feb 09 12:53:28 <vij> lemme try the beaglebone_defconfig
Feb 09 12:55:11 <dm8tbr> Hamed_: I'd expect this to be possible.
Feb 09 13:34:00 <vij> Koen: I tried the beaglebone_defconfig and got this error while building the kernel :
Feb 09 13:34:31 <_av500_> hint: android is kinda linux
Feb 09 13:34:38 <mru> it's about time someone killed the concept of defconfig
Feb 09 13:35:22 <_av500_> configd maybe?
Feb 09 13:35:44 <_av500_> kernelconfigdbus
Feb 09 13:35:47 <vij> Koen: I built the kernel using beaglebone_defconfig and got this error:
Feb 09 13:36:17 <vij> undefined reference to `edma_free_channel' make: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1
Feb 09 13:36:41 <vij> kernel_3.2/kernel/kernel/sound/soc/davinci/davinci-pcm.c:544:
Feb 09 13:36:42 <mru> someone forgot to enable the edma driver...
Feb 09 13:39:40 <vij> mru : the EDMA drivers are enabled
Feb 09 13:40:00 <mru> the error message disagrees
Feb 09 13:40:15 <vij> CONFIG_TI_EDMA=y
Feb 09 13:40:35 <mru> so find where that missing symbols is defined
Feb 09 13:40:47 <mru> then look up what config option enables it
Feb 09 13:40:49 <vij> CONFIG_TI_PRIV_EDMA=y
Feb 09 13:40:55 <mru> and turn on that config option
Feb 09 13:41:00 <mru> it's really very easy
Feb 09 13:41:33 <mru> alternatively, turn off whatever is trying to use it
Feb 09 13:47:57 <Kristina> Oh man, that's so slow.
Feb 09 13:47:59 <Kristina> > load_image /BinaryCache/Boot/LLB_OMAP3.MLO 0x40200000
Feb 09 13:47:59 <Kristina> downloaded 26776 bytes in 2.567988s (10.182 KiB/s)
Feb 09 13:56:20 <_av500_> boot from usb
Feb 09 14:03:55 <uwdl> is derek molloy a user here?
Feb 09 14:08:32 <mdp> hrm, a 3.2 kernel with that option?
Feb 09 14:09:46 <mdp> CONFIG_OMAP3_EDMA is the vendor kernel option, fwiw
Feb 09 14:10:27 <mdp> the others are the pending upstream options
Feb 09 14:19:01 <woglinde> hui
Feb 09 14:19:06 <woglinde> its like friday
Feb 09 14:19:19 <woglinde> and MRU gives hints
Feb 09 14:19:28 <mru> friday? where?
Feb 09 14:19:38 <mru> all I got here is crickets...
Feb 09 14:20:29 <mru> besides, whoever said I'm not helpful once in a while?
Feb 09 14:20:46 <woglinde> hm Kristina downloaded xloader via serial
Feb 09 14:21:09 <Kristina> woglinde: Not serial and not xloader.
Feb 09 14:21:31 <mru> woglinde: I worked on a system once where the software had to be loaded over 9600 bps serial
Feb 09 14:21:38 <mru> and it was several megabytes in size
Feb 09 14:22:01 <woglinde> mru hehe I have an simpad where you can load the images via serial too
Feb 09 14:22:06 <mru> my skills at darts improved dramatically on that project
Feb 09 14:22:40 <mru> (there was a dart board in the break room)
Feb 09 14:23:28 <dm8tbr> ah, the alternative to 'compiling...'
Feb 09 14:23:46 <mru> we also had exceedingly slow compiles
Feb 09 14:23:48 <woglinde> dm8tbr what?
Feb 09 14:23:57 <mru> xkcd 303 I suppose
Feb 09 14:24:11 <dm8tbr> yes
Feb 09 14:24:26 <mru> so first it would build for an hour or so
Feb 09 14:24:45 <mru> then we'd spend 30s initiating the download
Feb 09 14:24:54 <mru> then wait another long while for that
Feb 09 14:25:11 <mru> I can't remember what we were actually testing
Feb 09 14:26:08 <Kristina> I'm reinventing the wheel.
Feb 09 14:26:16 <mru> what shape is yours?
Feb 09 14:26:20 <Kristina> I could just bootstrap my BL using xloader.
Feb 09 14:26:43 <mru> isn't u-boot spl preferred these days?
Feb 09 14:27:51 <woglinde> hm own bootloader?
Feb 09 14:28:02 <woglinde> thats inventing the wheel
Feb 09 14:28:17 <Kristina> Yeah, I use something along the lines of iBoot.
Feb 09 14:31:38 <mru> iboot?
Feb 09 14:31:46 <mru> I've only ever used aboot and uboot
Feb 09 14:32:02 <mru> of the single-letter *boots
Feb 09 14:34:15 <woglinde> redboot?
Feb 09 14:34:26 <mru> eeeeek
Feb 09 14:34:31 <woglinde> *g*
Feb 09 14:34:39 <woglinde> yeah its like feodora
Feb 09 14:34:44 <woglinde> or better was
Feb 09 14:38:44 <Kristina> mru: It's an Apple thing.
Feb 09 14:39:09 <mru> eew
Feb 09 14:39:31 <Kristina> It has threading! And HFS support!
Feb 09 14:39:36 <mru> wtf for?
Feb 09 14:40:41 <mru> a good boot loader is one where there is nothing left to remove
Feb 09 14:40:43 <woglinde> booting beagle
Feb 09 14:40:43 <Kristina> Fun.
Feb 09 14:40:49 <woglinde> with ios
Feb 09 14:41:16 <Kristina> mru: HFS support is needed to load the kernel.
Feb 09 14:41:41 <mru> only if the kernel is on an hfs filesystem :)
Feb 09 14:42:17 <Kristina> mru: Well ... mach_kernel is usually on the main partition.
Feb 09 14:42:29 <woglinde> hm can you format sdcards with hfs?
Feb 09 14:42:35 <Kristina> Placing it on the FAT partion would be blasphemy.
Feb 09 14:43:17 <Kristina> woglinde: Sure, why not?
Feb 09 14:48:31 <Kristina> mru: Threading is not really needed for booting, but it's nice to have for interactive features.
Feb 09 14:48:38 <Kristina> Like a video console.
Feb 09 14:49:02 <Kristina> I've even added a cute little graphics library.
Feb 09 14:49:38 <Kristina> "wtfBoot"
Feb 09 14:52:39 <Kristina> "But can *your* bootloader draw circles?"
Feb 09 14:53:10 <mru> if it's doing its job right, you won't have time to see them anyway
Feb 09 14:53:28 <Kristina> mru: What about interactive features?
Feb 09 14:53:41 <mru> that's what you have an os for
Feb 09 14:53:52 <Kristina> Well, uboot has interactive stuff too :)
Feb 09 14:53:58 <Kristina> It has a serial console.
Feb 09 14:54:21 <mru> can be useful for debugging
Feb 09 14:54:33 <Kristina> Well, same here :P
Feb 09 14:55:16 <Kristina> A video console can be pretty useful.
Feb 09 14:55:28 <mru> for playing video games, yes
Feb 09 14:56:05 <Kristina> :/
Feb 09 14:56:53 <woglinde> maybee the os is loading so slow
Feb 09 14:56:54 <woglinde> hjaha
Feb 09 14:57:09 <Kristina> Also, things like boot logos are cool.
Feb 09 14:57:18 <woglinde> hi emeb
Feb 09 14:57:23 <woglinde> why?
Feb 09 14:57:27 <woglinde> why are logos cool?
Feb 09 15:00:34 <emeb_mac> morning woglinde
Feb 09 15:01:23 <Kristina> woglinde: wouldn't it be like, super cute if beagleboard showed a little apple when it booted? <3
Feb 09 15:01:52 <woglinde> kristina psst most beagles are not connected to monitors
Feb 09 15:02:04 <Kristina> Mine is.
Feb 09 15:02:16 <woglinde> and kittens are super cute
Feb 09 15:02:19 <woglinde> not apples
Feb 09 15:08:26 <emeb_mac> kittens... *sigh*
Feb 09 15:10:03 <woglinde> *g*
Feb 09 15:30:49 <ynezz> kitchens!
Feb 09 15:30:59 <ynezz> booting kitchen sink
Feb 09 16:06:16 <ohsn> beaglebone's processor's TRM (spruh73g) has conf_<module>_<pin> Register (offset = 800h–A34h) topic (9.3.50). what is the topic correspond it on beagleboard's TRM (spruf98x.pdf)?
Feb 09 16:23:54 <emeb_mac> when nerds get bored: traceroute -m 100 216.81.59.173
Feb 09 16:26:54 <av500> lol
Feb 09 16:29:44 <emeb_mac> someone has too many ip addresses.
Feb 09 16:30:06 <av500> http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/02/09/299-microsemi-smartfusion2-starter-kit-cortex-m3-fpga
Feb 09 16:30:13 <av500> FPGA all the things
Feb 09 16:30:48 <emeb_mac> cute
Feb 09 16:31:20 <av500> emeb_mac: its more than $35
Feb 09 16:31:22 <av500> fail
Feb 09 16:31:24 <emeb_mac> breadboard area not so breadboardy actually
Feb 09 16:31:35 <emeb_mac> +1
Feb 09 16:31:43 <av500> looks more likle toastboard area
Feb 09 16:32:38 <emeb_mac> dual-row 0.1" header area more like
Feb 09 16:40:27 <av500> yep
Feb 09 17:20:47 <mdp> awaiting the $35 quad A15
Feb 09 17:52:55 <Crofton|work> the state department meals & incidental expense rate for Brussels is 160 usd/day
Feb 09 17:53:13 <Crofton|work> wtf do diplomats eat in Brussels
Feb 09 17:53:30 <woglinde> pralines
Feb 09 17:53:35 <woglinde> hi crofton
Feb 09 17:59:47 <KotH> woglinde: i'd prefere swiss pralines over belgian ones...
Feb 09 18:00:16 <woglinde> koth sure but brussel is not in the swiss
Feb 09 18:00:23 <Crofton|work> gold plated pralines for the state department
Feb 09 18:00:28 <KotH> Crofton|work: the are around the eu govermantal buildings is pretty expensive.. nearly twice as expensive than the rest of the city
Feb 09 18:00:38 <KotH> area*
Feb 09 18:00:44 <mranostay> morning trolls!
Feb 09 18:00:52 <KotH> evening troll
Feb 09 18:00:54 <woglinde> heja mranostay
Feb 09 18:01:02 <mranostay> KotH: UGT
Feb 09 18:01:04 <Crofton|work> How is the weather mranostay ? I arrive tomorrow
Feb 09 18:01:47 <KotH> mranostay: i know
Feb 09 18:01:54 <KotH> mranostay: though, it's not night yet, but soo
Feb 09 18:01:56 <KotH> soon
Feb 09 18:05:30 <KotH> CustName:       Beagle networks
Feb 09 18:05:30 <KotH> Address:        80 Bloor Street West
Feb 09 18:05:30 <KotH> Address:        Suite 503
Feb 09 18:05:30 <KotH> City:           Toronto
Feb 09 18:05:42 <KotH> someone bought too many beagles....
Feb 09 18:37:07 <Crofton|work> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt3i63mR5o4
Feb 09 18:44:10 <_av500_> nice
Feb 09 18:58:12 <mranostay> Crofton|work: rather nice now
Feb 09 19:04:21 <_av500_> that bit of snow is a problem?
Feb 09 19:09:10 <jacekowski> Crofton|work: i've spent around £400 for 2 days in brussels for two
Feb 09 19:09:49 <jacekowski> Crofton|work: but that's including some fosdem donations and loads of drinks and books and stuff
Feb 09 19:23:31 <Crofton|work> jacekowski, that is basically what they spend on food and things like laundary
Feb 09 19:24:35 <Crofton|work> for comparison Mountain View is 56
Feb 09 19:24:51 <Crofton|work> although that is from the GSA schedule
Feb 09 19:25:05 <jacekowski> food is expensive in brusseles
Feb 09 19:25:09 <jacekowski> i was surprised by that
Feb 09 19:25:22 <jacekowski> but it's about twice of what you pay in other places
Feb 09 19:25:24 <Crofton|work> yeah, but I would have trouble eating 160usd a day :)
Feb 09 19:25:44 <jacekowski> trip to not so good restaurant set me back 120 euro
Feb 09 19:25:52 <jacekowski> for 2
Feb 09 19:26:06 <jacekowski> that's $80
Feb 09 19:26:09 <Crofton|work> yeah
Feb 09 19:26:14 <jacekowski> for 60
Feb 09 19:28:49 <mranostay> Crofton|work: money isn't tasty
Feb 09 19:29:03 <Crofton|work> very true
Feb 09 19:35:21 <ka6sox-away> yawn
Feb 09 19:41:19 <mranostay> ka6sox: later riser?
Feb 09 19:41:21 <mranostay> *late
Feb 09 19:41:47 <ka6sox> ya, powered thru finishing the design
Feb 09 19:41:59 <ka6sox> now time to check then layout
Feb 09 19:50:04 <woglinde> there are some cheap places
Feb 09 19:50:07 <woglinde> in brussel
Feb 09 20:14:10 <mranostay> off to put holes in paper
Feb 09 20:17:22 <mranostay> ka6sox: they catch that fugitive down in SoCal yet?
Feb 09 20:29:55 <ka6sox> mranostay, shoot straight...the LAPD sure can't :P
Feb 09 20:34:39 <mranostay> ka6sox: rangemaster would toss you out for that bad of aim :)
Feb 09 20:44:56 <woglinde> o.O
Feb 09 20:48:20 <ka6sox> mranostay, guess it take 71 shots to wound a 71yr old gramma...
Feb 09 20:48:27 <ka6sox> (in the hand)
Feb 09 20:49:13 <W1N9Zr0> 71 year old grandmas, the real case for high capacity magazines?
Feb 09 20:49:41 <ka6sox> and automatic weapons too....she might have a newspaper to throw back at you.
Feb 09 20:59:38 <prpplague> hehe
Feb 09 21:38:31 <dm8tbr> prpplague: nice set
Feb 09 21:39:05 <_av500_> damn, need a new fan in the x201 :(
Feb 09 21:39:43 <prpplague> _av500_: doh
Feb 09 21:39:46 <prpplague> dm8tbr: the beer?
Feb 09 21:39:53 <dm8tbr> did it start making scratchy noises?
Feb 09 21:39:55 <dm8tbr> prpplague: yup
Feb 09 21:39:56 <_av500_> yes
Feb 09 21:40:05 <_av500_> vacuumed it, no chnage
Feb 09 21:40:08 <dm8tbr> mhm, had that too with one of mine :(
Feb 09 21:40:14 <_av500_> guess the bearings are toast
Feb 09 21:40:17 <prpplague> dm8tbr: thanks! GPSFan sent them
Feb 09 21:40:21 <_av500_> well, net has a lot of them
Feb 09 21:40:50 <dm8tbr> yup, if you know what you're doing, all you need is just the fan, not the whole ASSY I guess
Feb 09 21:40:55 <_av500_> dm8tbr: btw, I frankzombied dl8's T43 LCD onto my old T42
Feb 09 21:41:07 <_av500_> my LCD has some issue
Feb 09 21:41:14 <_av500_> how mobo overheats after 5 min
Feb 09 21:41:39 <_av500_> now I got a nice mahcin with opensuse 10.1 :)
Feb 09 21:41:45 <_av500_> machine*
Feb 09 21:41:55 <dm8tbr> heheh
Feb 09 21:42:02 <KotH> _av500_: i've the same problem with my venerable t42... fan bearings are dead
Feb 09 21:42:11 <_av500_> well, the x201 is not so old
Feb 09 21:42:15 <dm8tbr> if I'd have known, I could have brought you some junk T61p or so
Feb 09 21:42:19 <_av500_> and on my t42, the fan is ok
Feb 09 21:42:21 <KotH> _av500_: i even got a brand new battery pack from a friend...
Feb 09 21:42:50 <_av500_> maybe I can port android to it
Feb 09 21:42:57 <KotH> lol
Feb 09 21:43:05 <dm8tbr> port-a-potty
Feb 09 21:50:37 <_av500_> hmm, a lot of refurbished stuff
Feb 09 23:58:23 <mru> KotH: https://plus.google.com/102827406106355929027/posts/EALxoTVBnHM
Feb 10 00:23:04 <mranostay> hehe
Feb 10 00:56:21 <alan_o> So who knows about SYSBOOT?
Feb 10 00:56:26 <alan_o> I'm reading the TRM now
Feb 10 00:56:51 <alan_o> I guess the issue is, it seems like stuff is going to happen on those pins during bootup
Feb 10 00:57:48 <alan_o> so if I want a peripheral that uses those pins, do I need to put a latch on there to high-z those pins from my device until a driver is loaded or somehting?
Feb 10 00:57:57 <alan_o> I'm looking at the boot sequence.
Feb 10 00:58:45 <alan_o> I'm not sure yet which one the bone is using, but it seems like all of them are going to check stuff before it gets to mmc0
Feb 10 00:59:34 <alan_o> So then the _real_ question is, I'm looking at the SRM for the BeagleBone Black, and it's talking about MMC1 being used for boot. That's muxed with pins I was going to use on the expansion header
Feb 10 01:00:38 <alan_o> I guess I'm trying to figure out if I need to be off of those pins at boot time. So for example, if I pull one of those pins up or down, am I going to cause bootup to fail?
Feb 10 01:00:53 <alan_o> So much muxing, it seems like no pins are safe.
Feb 10 01:01:26 <ka6sox> alan_o, nothing is sacred anymore with pinmuxing.
Feb 10 01:02:25 <alan_o> I remember mdp talking about getting sideways on sysboot pins
Feb 10 01:02:54 <alan_o> he connected up his stuff and the bone wouldn't boot. I guess I just don't get how to avoid that.
Feb 10 01:12:19 <jdsa> http://www.ti.com/lit/ug/spruf98x/spruf98x.pdf page 2614: OVF_Rate = (0xFFFF FFFF - GPTn.TLDR + 1) * (timer-functional clock period) * PS table16-11 the example for TLDR=0xFFFF FFF0 and PS=1 is equal to 524 μs. however, (0xFFFF FFFF - 0xFFFF FFF0 + 1) * (1/32768) * 1 = 488 μs
Feb 10 01:12:48 <jdsa> can anyone explain why I calculate the value different than the TRM?
Feb 10 01:31:21 <jdsa> anyone?
Feb 10 01:40:54 <ka6sox> jdsa, evening...on a Saturday...
Feb 10 01:41:12 <ka6sox> (an I am headed out to observe the stars...bbl)
Feb 10 01:41:15 <jdsa> it is sunday early morning here
Feb 10 01:43:04 <ka6sox-away> just don't give the LAPD one....they will put a mini-gun on it and use it to shoot up neighborhoods: http://mashable.com/2013/02/08/hackable-palm-sized-drone/
Feb 10 01:46:18 <mranostay> ka6sox-away: wasn't LA getting a drone?
Feb 10 01:49:53 <ka6sox-away> if they are then I'll skip SCaLE...I don't trust them at all..
Feb 10 01:49:57 <mdp> alan_o: you just have to design your hardware so it's not driving those sysboot pins elsewhere than the baseboard does…during the reset sampling period
Feb 10 01:50:10 <mdp> see the initialization section in the TRM
Feb 10 01:50:24 <ka6sox-away> okay back to finishing the new design...laters
Feb 10 01:50:28 <alan_o> mdp: yeah, that's what I've been reading
Feb 10 01:50:38 <alan_o> There's too much muxing
Feb 10 01:50:43 <mdp> I accidentally had a couple lines with strong pulls
Feb 10 01:51:10 <mdp> alan_o, switch to allwinner..less complexity..less features…less pinmuxing.
Feb 10 01:51:15 <alan_o> and it looks like the black will use the mmc1 for the onboard nand
Feb 10 01:51:16 <alan_o> hehe
Feb 10 01:51:25 <mdp> but then they have their boot mmc and jtag muxed ;) ouch
Feb 10 01:51:35 <alan_o> doh!
Feb 10 01:51:38 <mdp> mmc1 is eMMC, yes
Feb 10 01:51:54 <alan_o> so if I'm on any of those pins, the user won't be able to use the nand?
Feb 10 01:52:09 <mdp> correct
Feb 10 01:52:19 <alan_o> So that's a pretty big limitation
Feb 10 01:52:34 <alan_o> people with existing capes that stomp on that are going to be irritated
Feb 10 01:52:36 <mdp> yes, any change in the original hardware complicates things
Feb 10 01:52:41 <alan_o> yeah, no doubt
Feb 10 01:52:44 <mdp> heck..using an lcd cape complicates things
Feb 10 01:52:52 <mdp> as you lose half the useful pru pins
Feb 10 01:53:00 <alan_o> yeah, using _any_ cape limits the possibilities of using any other cape
Feb 10 01:53:02 <mdp> so you are fscked any way you go
Feb 10 01:53:08 <alan_o> I'm trying to stay off as much as possible
Feb 10 01:53:46 <alan_o> so there's listed LCD pins up through 32, but none of the LCD or HDMI capes seem to use beyond 16
Feb 10 01:53:53 <alan_o> haven't quite cracked the code on that one yet
Feb 10 01:54:13 <alan_o> I'm sure it probably does 16- and 32-bit modes.
Feb 10 01:54:32 <mdp> I only believe in serial lcds, nfc on that
Feb 10 01:54:43 <mdp> ok, family time..bbl
Feb 10 01:55:18 <alan_o> looks like it goes to 24, not 32.
Feb 10 01:55:23 <alan_o> thanks mdp, have fun :)
Feb 10 01:56:28 <jdsa> what is the functional clock frequency of beagleboard-xm on GPT9?
Feb 10 02:51:32 <SlashV> I've been struggling for some time now to get rotated screen output on beagleboard. Can't get it to work properly. Any hints?
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