**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Feb 10 02:59:58 2013 Feb 10 03:06:19 alan_o: get a troll table? Feb 10 03:07:38 yeah Feb 10 03:08:01 I mean.... a table to sit at and show some demo stuff? Feb 10 03:08:13 yes, I got one of those Feb 10 03:08:20 I imagine there will be some trolling Feb 10 03:08:59 Now I have to get the hardware I want to show at it done :) Feb 10 03:16:01 alan_o: Otherwise it'd be a troll troll table. Feb 10 03:16:22 Trolls: "What do you have?" You: "nothing. TROLOLO" Trolls: "DOH!" Feb 10 03:16:53 hah Feb 10 03:22:38 trollllled Feb 10 03:22:45 tricktrolled Feb 10 03:24:51 So, with the bbone, I see plenty of documentation saying "Try XYZ-Distribution". Do those distributions (ubuntu, etc) support beagle capes and such? Feb 10 03:25:04 derpy question of the day. Feb 10 03:25:27 "support" as in automatic detection of cape eeprom, etc as angstrom does Feb 10 03:35:14 out of beerz againz Feb 10 03:36:04 * mranostay steals one from alan_o Feb 10 03:36:14 oh wait Feb 10 03:38:00 mranostay: You must first troll alan_o before you steal his beer. Feb 10 03:38:36 iirc alan_o doesn't drink Feb 10 03:39:04 well, if you were a true ninja, you could still steal one anwyays. Feb 10 03:40:02 * emeb_mac has only 1 beer left Feb 10 03:40:11 * mranostay cluebats emeb_mac and steals it Feb 10 03:40:22 ow! where's my beer? Feb 10 03:42:17 mranostay: here's what you got: http://www.fourpeaks.com/#/the_regulars/8thStreetAle/ Feb 10 03:42:58 hehe Feb 10 03:43:18 emeb_mac: ever find a 6 pack your forgot you bought? :) Feb 10 03:43:30 <-- has done that Feb 10 03:43:32 sometimes the ones I hide around the house Feb 10 03:43:41 mranostay: can't say I recall that happening. Feb 10 03:43:54 how many fridges you got? Feb 10 03:44:36 alan_o: it was in a cabinet Feb 10 04:41:18 hello Feb 10 04:42:00 where can I find the weight of the ARM Cortex A8 processor used by the BeagleBoard? Feb 10 04:42:51 * mranostay is drunk Feb 10 04:42:56 i just didn't read that Feb 10 04:43:09 weight? as in "put it on a scale"? Feb 10 04:43:21 how could that possibly be important? Feb 10 04:45:40 heh we scared him off Feb 10 04:47:23 Since he's gone, I'm going to drop a "lrn2datasheet" in here. Feb 10 04:48:07 though admittedly, I should be nicer to noobs, seeing as I'm one myself in most aspects Feb 10 04:49:22 so I got an "I have doubts" email from someone today regarding one of the DIY boards I've written up. Feb 10 04:51:46 i am as bad as mru now.. irc from phone Feb 10 05:46:35 hi mrpackethead Feb 10 05:55:38 mranostay: hi Feb 10 05:58:30 how is it in the land down under? Feb 10 05:59:54 good good Feb 10 05:59:58 nice and warm Feb 10 06:01:07 i've been busy buidling a bit of a new bench at home Feb 10 06:01:14 put a few basic tools on the bench Feb 10 06:07:57 hammer, chisel, propane torch... Feb 10 06:09:22 hey emeb_mac the great Feb 10 06:09:40 hola mranostay Feb 10 06:11:59 slides off.. need to practice them maybe once more Feb 10 06:12:33 huh? Feb 10 06:12:44 emeb_mac: ELC Feb 10 06:12:52 oh - presentation slides. Feb 10 06:12:52 i forget are you going? Feb 10 06:13:00 no - Feb 10 06:13:23 lame Feb 10 06:13:28 really lame man :) Feb 10 06:13:32 can't take off for that kinda stuff. too far outside my day job. Feb 10 06:14:18 what is the day job? Feb 10 06:18:39 system engineering for Software Defined Radio. Feb 10 06:18:55 lots of Matlab & VHDL coding Feb 10 06:19:20 then again i'm in a related field (what they have me doing) and i have to take PTO.. Feb 10 06:22:29 emeb_mac: another HW guy? how do you know to use IRC? :) Feb 10 06:23:05 mranostay: inorite? Feb 10 06:27:58 emeb_mac: i impressed a hw guy at work that could understand a schematic.. :) Feb 10 06:28:46 the new college kids don't have to take any ac/dc circuits for CS Feb 10 06:29:43 lame Feb 10 06:35:46 im just rebuilding electroplating cape Feb 10 06:36:02 :-) Feb 10 06:36:08 thats prototyping Feb 10 06:37:43 mrpackethead: want to write a real driver for it? :) Feb 10 06:37:58 sleep 0.0012 annoy me :) Feb 10 06:38:05 lol. Feb 10 06:38:08 yeah, might do Feb 10 06:38:17 its pretty crappy the way it is Feb 10 06:38:23 but the hardware will work just fine Feb 10 06:38:53 i'm sure we'd give you a troll discount here :P Feb 10 06:39:03 trolls eat hobbits Feb 10 06:39:06 :-( Feb 10 06:39:32 it doe'snt really need that much precisio Feb 10 06:39:48 but i'd like to keep it repeatble Feb 10 06:39:58 here you go re hobbits: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WhLvwIUuLWg Feb 10 06:40:27 * mranostay clicks Feb 10 06:41:42 this is what a lifetime of doing drugs will do to your brain Feb 10 06:41:45 my servers are so unorginally named after middle-earth locations Feb 10 06:42:09 after years of boring corporate names, like "ns1" Feb 10 06:42:11 emeb_mac: well lucky my grandma says alcohol isn't a drug Feb 10 06:42:15 or "mail" Feb 10 06:42:21 there's a lot of potential names in tolkien's material. Feb 10 06:42:47 NFL hat is a nice touch Feb 10 06:42:49 its much more fun to call thigns, like "hobbiton", "theshire", "erebor", "isengard" Feb 10 06:42:51 mranostay: your grandma is a wise woman. Feb 10 06:43:01 alcohol is food. :) Feb 10 06:43:26 these days, i live 1.5km from teh gates of mordor. Feb 10 06:43:36 though i'm not sure if middle-earth is metric Feb 10 06:43:46 emeb_mac: except she views pot as gateway drug :) Feb 10 06:43:51 mrpackethead: where in AU are you? Feb 10 06:43:56 hehehe Feb 10 06:44:28 mranostay: well, everyone has their blind spots. Feb 10 06:44:53 emeb_mac: is that a serious question.. in reply.. what part of the Canada are you in Feb 10 06:45:12 snowy part Feb 10 06:45:26 its all snonwy this weekend is'nt it? Feb 10 06:45:35 Snow From Florida to Alaska Feb 10 06:45:49 never snows here so i'm happy Feb 10 06:45:55 mrpackethead: it was serious based on mranostay mentioning down under earlier. Feb 10 06:46:12 maybe flurries once in 50 years i'm told Feb 10 06:46:18 and in reply, I'm in the part of Canada where Canadians go during the winter. Feb 10 06:46:26 ie Arizona. :P Feb 10 06:46:43 * mranostay pokes mag Feb 10 06:47:06 some on a 100% year round basis :) Feb 10 06:47:07 emeb_mac: New Zealand.. 1800km east of Australia Feb 10 06:47:32 mrpackethead: Ah - sorry. Down Under is bigger than I thought. Feb 10 06:47:38 same diffenece :) Feb 10 06:48:04 * emeb_mac has rellies in Melbourne. Feb 10 06:48:05 like canada is the 51st^H^H^H^H52nd state Feb 10 06:48:46 good moaning Feb 10 06:48:47 dumb windows machien Feb 10 06:48:58 i can't have the laser cutter and the pcb mill plugged in at the same time Feb 10 06:49:03 ( at least not turned on ) Feb 10 06:49:50 i have a phone conference with CircuitCo on Tuesday ( monday uS time ) Feb 10 06:49:59 urgh.. 5:30am in the morning Feb 10 06:51:43 mrpackethead: CCO go on :) Feb 10 06:52:04 cape design? Feb 10 06:52:28 am investigating a single board design for somethign Feb 10 06:52:33 my prototype works Feb 10 06:53:09 software largely done Feb 10 06:53:09 but since i have to create a pcb and put parts on it Feb 10 06:53:09 why not just have one pcb Feb 10 06:53:12 with everything on it Feb 10 06:53:28 and since circuitco are alredy in this business with a lot of experiecne Feb 10 06:53:33 it might be a low pain path Feb 10 06:54:02 low pain can justify higher than chinese manufacuturing costs Feb 10 07:27:02 interesting? Feb 10 07:27:32 went very quiet did'nt it Feb 10 07:41:39 38 minutes to run though slides Feb 10 07:48:06 crap koen is here Feb 10 07:48:13 * mranostay sleeps Feb 10 08:17:22 lolo. Feb 10 08:17:37 hello keon Feb 10 08:17:44 koen: hello Feb 10 08:21:00 mru: in turkish, we have a very nice saying, it translates to "what does a cat understand of vinegard" :-) Feb 10 10:57:45 helloo Feb 10 10:59:26 I have created a patch for chipsee extension board but the thing is, my touchscreen works upside down :D Feb 10 10:59:52 left is left but up is down and down is up ;) and it is only with directfb, not tslib Feb 10 11:03:59 KotH: a cat might find mice in the vineyard Feb 10 11:05:42 :-) Feb 10 11:39:01 http://www.ti.com/lit/ug/spruf98x/spruf98x.pdf page 2614: OVF_Rate = (0xFFFF FFFF - GPTn.TLDR + 1) * (timer-functional clock period) * PS table16-11 the example for TLDR=0xFFFF FFF0 and PS=1 is equal to 524 ??s. however, (0xFFFF FFFF - 0xFFFF FFF0 + 1) * (1/32768) * 1 = 488 ??s Feb 10 11:39:03 can anyone explain why I calculate the value different than the TRM? Feb 10 11:39:18 *?? is usec Feb 10 11:39:23 you made a mistake? Feb 10 11:39:36 no paste it on google, it calculates the same Feb 10 11:47:03 aleek fix directfb Feb 10 12:02:24 <_av500_> or use it upside down Feb 10 12:03:32 2nd options better :D Feb 10 12:03:39 s/options/option Feb 10 12:08:01 or do not use directfb Feb 10 12:08:04 gm av500 Feb 10 12:09:08 woglinde: that's a brilliant idea, have you patented it? Feb 10 12:09:28 mru no Feb 10 12:10:00 but unfornatly I like directfb Feb 10 12:10:15 and maintained the recipe in oe Feb 10 14:58:43 morning Feb 10 14:59:25 gm mranostay Feb 10 15:00:59 is that what it is? Feb 10 15:01:06 I thought it was raining Feb 10 16:13:16 _av500_: your g+ friends have stalking tendencies Feb 10 16:16:06 best kind of friends Feb 10 16:42:40 mru: that's a good thing right? Feb 10 16:43:46 insuffient data Feb 10 16:44:45 hehe Feb 10 16:59:53 overly attached g+ friends? Feb 10 17:00:52 * mranostay suspects mru loves his fonts Feb 10 17:00:59 with crazy eyes... Feb 10 17:01:35 I +1'd a comment on a post by av500, and the person who made the comment immediately checked out my profile Feb 10 17:01:42 * prpplague needs to setup an auto-reply for job offers wanting relocation to the bay area Feb 10 17:02:06 mru: linkedin? or g+? Feb 10 17:02:13 mranostay: g+ Feb 10 17:02:57 prpplague: I thought that was an option? Feb 10 17:03:36 I expect any company serious about hiring me to relocate to my city :) Feb 10 17:03:39 biot: i minimal option that after spending a couple of days in the bay area was quickly killed Feb 10 17:04:00 really? what was the major thing you disliked? Feb 10 17:04:06 mru: how were you able to determine that they visited your profile Feb 10 17:04:25 prpplague: she +1'd a bunch of my photos Feb 10 17:04:31 mru: ahh Feb 10 17:04:38 mru knows things... Feb 10 17:05:23 biot: probably the insane housing prices Feb 10 17:05:24 biot: top ones are a 10% state income tax, cost of purchasing a home, and the simple fact that most of the guns i own would not be legal there.... Feb 10 17:05:56 don't forget earthquakes! Feb 10 17:06:01 * mranostay rolls eyes Feb 10 17:06:10 guns Feb 10 17:06:10 emeb_mac: yea that is a trade off , since we have tornadoes here Feb 10 17:06:24 yeah tornados happen a bit more :) Feb 10 17:06:32 but bay area has _hipsters_!!! Feb 10 17:06:41 prpplague: well, can't argue with all that Feb 10 17:07:01 mru: that isn't a selling point Feb 10 17:07:06 mru: hence the gun thing Feb 10 17:07:07 prpplague: try Arizona - a few tech outfits here, no tornadoes, no earthquakes, plenty of guns. Feb 10 17:07:13 mranostay: exactly Feb 10 17:07:37 emeb_mac: how about sand worms? Feb 10 17:07:42 lol Feb 10 17:07:52 its not dune Feb 10 17:08:03 mru: minor annoyance Feb 10 17:08:11 emeb_mac: yea, i have few items of interest there Feb 10 17:08:36 * prpplague needs to make a decision on something soon Feb 10 17:08:55 prpplague: got another refugee from Dallas area here. Guy used to do contract work at TI too. Feb 10 17:08:57 prpplague: OTOH that's where all the tech is, Feb 10 17:09:46 prpplague: storage unit in nevada :) Feb 10 17:10:20 biot: indeed and i think a lot of the companies are starting to realize that they are loosing out on a lot of developers as well as business expenses doing business there Feb 10 17:10:37 mranostay: hehe that doesn't solve the other issues Feb 10 17:10:59 store hipsters in Nevada? Feb 10 17:11:39 hehe Feb 10 17:12:18 <_av500_> guns.... Feb 10 17:12:23 <_av500_> oh my Feb 10 17:12:57 _av500_: arm is sore from shooting 'high power' rifles yesterday :) Feb 10 17:13:09 <_av500_> fine Feb 10 17:13:33 <_av500_> one day you will rise up againt evil government Feb 10 17:13:47 hm no Feb 10 17:13:51 <_av500_> assuming the HOA will let you cross your lawn with a loaded gun Feb 10 17:13:59 _av500_: the first gun I ever remember seeing was at my grandparent's place in Bramsche. Feb 10 17:14:31 _av500_: you know some of us shoot for fun and not expecting an uprising :) Feb 10 17:14:41 prpplague: call me silly right? :) Feb 10 17:16:36 * emeb_mac has to vacuum his yard for the HOA today... Feb 10 17:17:09 emeb_mac: astroturf? Feb 10 17:17:22 <_av500_> mranostay: that must the vocal majority that is all for controlling guns more, right? because since you use them only for fun you are all for more backgroubd checks and having them safely locked up in the gun clubs etc... Feb 10 17:17:28 mranostay: no - rock. Feb 10 17:17:43 lots of rock/gravel yards here in AZ. Feb 10 17:18:10 _av500_: well self defense too but you don't have to get all crazy about it :) Feb 10 17:18:52 _av500_: despite what the media says, background checks are already done on the vast majority of sales. i am all ok with background checks, but not for being locked up in gun clubs Feb 10 17:19:41 <_av500_> prpplague: right, along with the mandatory training that is more rigorous than being allows to drive a car, right? Feb 10 17:19:50 <_av500_> allowed* Feb 10 17:20:21 _av500_: cars don't travel at supersonic speeds Feb 10 17:20:37 what are we joining the SWAT team? :) Feb 10 17:20:45 _av500_: hehe, yea i think there should be some training, or proof that it is not required Feb 10 17:20:50 <_av500_> but, in fact, you can stop, I stopped caring. I will still mourn your dead kids, but I have 0 sympathy left for anybody else Feb 10 17:21:00 <_av500_> go shoot Feb 10 17:21:18 prpplague: aren't the background checks mostly on new sales only? Feb 10 17:21:24 <_av500_> mru: of course Feb 10 17:21:34 I've heard once sold, a gun can be resold without any checks or paper trail Feb 10 17:21:36 mru: only sales from a dealer Feb 10 17:21:47 mru: varies from state to state Feb 10 17:21:48 mru: depends on the state Feb 10 17:21:55 california for sure no :) Feb 10 17:22:02 <_av500_> do bullets stop at stae borders? Feb 10 17:22:07 <_av500_> state* Feb 10 17:22:12 <_av500_> like polica cars do Feb 10 17:23:00 no but yout caught with illegal guns in CA you are getting a few long sentences Feb 10 17:23:23 _av500_: how are the laws in europe, are police allowed to pursue crooks across, say, the german/belgian border? Feb 10 17:23:48 <_av500_> mru: I always got away clean :) Feb 10 17:23:55 anyway i'm going to miss my train if i get bogged into this talk :) Feb 10 17:24:02 <_av500_> a train? Feb 10 17:24:06 mranostay: hehe Feb 10 17:24:07 <_av500_> now you are trolling Feb 10 17:24:32 caltrain... barely counts Feb 10 17:24:54 <_av500_> thats like one of these courtesy trams in amusement parks :) Feb 10 17:25:00 <_av500_> just a bit bigger Feb 10 17:25:03 that thing makes even the british trains feel fast Feb 10 17:25:23 US trains are pretty sad. Feb 10 17:27:17 hm our german railsstuff will get worser too, first area is now driven by a uk based company Feb 10 17:27:25 <_av500_> run Feb 10 17:28:34 owche. Trains in DE always were the epitome for me. Times change. Feb 10 17:28:54 <_av500_> yes Feb 10 17:29:05 <_av500_> emeb_mac: if you want punctual trains, see switzerland Feb 10 17:29:29 av500 there net is small Feb 10 17:29:36 with all the hills Feb 10 17:29:46 <_av500_> and? Feb 10 17:33:03 the stockholm metro has been run by the hong kong MTR for some time Feb 10 17:33:13 I've had no reason to complain Feb 10 17:38:24 wonder if they post signs prohibiting durian. Feb 10 17:38:36 oh wait - that's singapore. Feb 10 17:46:23 guns.. I like the idea that is written into the constitution Feb 10 17:46:56 that the people must have ultimate power in form of weapons, so that they can shoot off their government if the government isn't behaving. Feb 10 17:47:06 the us constitution has a lot of good things in it Feb 10 17:47:17 shame about the interpretation Feb 10 17:47:27 that's not really how it works in practise though Feb 10 17:48:22 the constituents were probably noble men with noble intentions Feb 10 17:48:23 it was also written well before high-capacity assault rifles were invented Feb 10 17:48:30 mm Feb 10 17:48:53 law tends not to be very forward compatible Feb 10 17:49:06 I wonder if we will see this change over the next few generations Feb 10 17:49:20 I've heard a theory that the 2nd amendment was added at the behest of southern slave owners afraid of insurrection. Feb 10 17:51:04 emeb_mac: and an equally common story is that it was added at the behest of the northern abolitionists to prevent southern plantation owners from taking weapons from freed slaves Feb 10 17:51:32 prpplague: theories are dime-a-dozen. Feb 10 17:51:37 indeed Feb 10 17:52:38 emeb_mac : you a yankee? Feb 10 17:52:46 lol Feb 10 17:53:18 CareBear\: in what sense? Northerner or USian? Feb 10 17:53:23 northerner Feb 10 17:53:49 emeb_mac: and the best theories are completely made-up Feb 10 17:53:57 Born in OH, so I guess I'm a Yankee in that sense. Live in the SW, but married to a Texan. Feb 10 17:54:19 mru: those usually make more sense than the reality. Feb 10 17:54:23 wow Feb 10 17:54:51 emeb_mac : so you get the best out of everything ;) Feb 10 17:55:08 except maybe growing up in OH was not so hot Feb 10 17:55:44 never mind - just funny to imagine a little north & south in #beagle Feb 10 17:55:48 emeb_mac: like this one I found in the guardian: "Julian Assange is a creation and agent of the global right, specifically designed to make the left look ridiculous." Feb 10 17:56:30 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_&_South_(video_game) Feb 10 17:57:42 CareBear\: we like to mix it up. Feb 10 17:57:56 mru: most awesome. Feb 10 17:57:57 emeb_mac : that's the way to go Feb 10 17:58:26 mru: You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike Feb 10 18:04:05 "A Native American who lives to the west of the territory might hurl a giant tomahawk randomly at one of the westernmost states, destroying the army unfortunate enough to be garrisoned there. Similarly, a sombrero-clad Mexican living to the southwest might suddenly wake up from his siesta and toss a bomb into Texas, result being the same." Feb 10 18:04:40 better watch out for the sombreros Feb 10 18:05:03 don't see a lot of those these days. Feb 10 18:05:03 mexicans either sleep or toss bombs into texas Feb 10 18:05:08 how is that for pc :p Feb 10 18:05:52 oh! Feb 10 18:06:06 remake! Feb 10 18:06:11 http://ifanzine.com/the-bluecoats-north-vs-south-review/ Feb 10 18:07:02 CareBear\: oh man, you mentioning that brings back such memories :) Feb 10 18:07:10 biot : good fun! Feb 10 18:07:32 really was Feb 10 18:08:24 CareBear\: BTW had the cops over yesterday... they're saying I hit some car on my way out of the FOSDEM parking lot Feb 10 18:08:33 !! Feb 10 18:08:45 not possible Feb 10 18:08:46 I think that makes me a bad open source person Feb 10 18:09:10 omg, I know someone who commited a crime! Feb 10 18:10:00 biot : so what's next? Feb 10 18:10:05 biot : how long will you go to jail for? Feb 10 18:10:37 meh Feb 10 18:10:46 hehe Feb 10 18:14:28 I'm impressed that the police will come seek you out Feb 10 18:16:08 Belgian police. Resourceful. Feb 10 18:16:30 at least that day Feb 10 18:17:01 Come to Belgium - we have beer and chocolate. And resourceful police. Feb 10 18:18:31 this looks really cool actually :) http://www.gamespot.com/the-bluecoats-north-and-south/videos/the-bluecoats-north-and-south-launch-trailer-6374013/ Feb 10 18:21:02 CareBear\: well, biot didn't tell us it was a police car... Feb 10 18:21:17 hah Feb 10 18:21:29 I see Feb 10 18:22:08 "hit some car with a molotow coctail" Feb 10 18:23:41 hello again Feb 10 18:25:20 hiya Feb 10 18:25:33 had to fire up the linux box to try something... Feb 10 18:51:21 hi all. Please help, trying to get BB-XM revC to use 10" LCD...no luck Feb 10 18:51:43 touchscreen, btw Feb 10 18:57:24 I am relatively novice to linux but, I can manage. Anyone else get BB to work with Chalk-elec 10" Touchscreen Feb 10 19:10:51 Scud : it is impossible to say anything unless you provide all details about what is going wrong Feb 10 19:11:19 Scud : the internet can not magically appear on your workbench and debug the problem for you - you have to do that on your own :) Feb 10 19:11:54 really? what's it good for then? Feb 10 19:12:02 touche Feb 10 19:13:13 well, the 10" is recognized and i can use as mouse on my win 7 pc. What I need to do is recompile the kernel on BB to use the 10" Feb 10 19:13:24 what interface does it use? Feb 10 19:13:56 n-trig duosense, that what you refering to? Feb 10 19:14:51 http://www.chalk-elec.com/?p=1592 Feb 10 19:15:49 i am trying to get it going with Angstrom, initially. I will then apply to the Android ICS build I have Feb 10 19:21:46 .c Feb 10 19:21:59 .o Feb 10 19:27:40 <_av500_> .d Feb 10 19:29:32 ? Feb 10 19:29:39 <_av500_> unrelated Feb 10 19:29:56 to what? Feb 10 19:30:02 <_av500_> Scud: well, you need to tell the linux kernel that you have an lcd connected Feb 10 19:30:09 <_av500_> and provide .e.g the timing values Feb 10 19:30:30 <_av500_> didnt the vendor provide you with that? Feb 10 19:30:38 <_av500_> given that they advertise BB support Feb 10 19:31:36 thx av500. That's what I thought too. I changed the Uenv line. Do I need to add something into the kernel? Feb 10 19:32:46 <_av500_> you changed the line to what? Feb 10 19:33:52 <_av500_> eek, XML's 15th birthday Feb 10 19:34:03 one sec Feb 10 19:35:25 dvimode="1024x600MR-32@60 mem=99M@0x80000000 mem=384M@0x88000000 omapfb.vram=0:12M,1:8M,2:4M" Feb 10 19:35:33 http://harmoniccode.blogspot.com/2012/10/who-let-dogs-out.html Feb 10 19:36:15 <_av500_> woof woof Feb 10 19:36:27 haha Feb 10 19:42:44 <_av500_> wtf is /usr/bin/cpuType Feb 10 19:43:16 where? Feb 10 19:43:17 _av500_: unheard of Feb 10 19:43:49 <_av500_> some script it seems Feb 10 19:43:51 oh, ic Feb 10 19:43:57 <_av500_> that one must sed around in to make sgx work Feb 10 19:44:14 sed? Feb 10 19:44:22 <_av500_> Scud: again, what instructions did the vendor give you? Feb 10 19:44:25 pico Feb 10 19:44:28 woglinde: an editor written before you were born Feb 10 19:44:29 <_av500_> woglinde: see above url Feb 10 19:44:43 a500 cpuType? Feb 10 19:44:52 <_av500_> woglinde: clikc on link, read Feb 10 19:44:53 yeah, the webpage for how to... Feb 10 19:45:33 <_av500_> drum roll Feb 10 19:45:44 hehe javafx Feb 10 19:45:56 <_av500_> woglinde: yes, its for you Feb 10 19:46:10 cputype must be the OMAP3530 Feb 10 19:46:19 <_av500_> thats for sgx Feb 10 19:46:26 <_av500_> not to get your display to work Feb 10 19:46:32 <_av500_> Scud: again, what instructions did the vendor give you? Feb 10 19:46:33 ah Feb 10 19:46:42 none Feb 10 19:46:49 <_av500_> you bought a display from a vendor that says beagle is supported Feb 10 19:46:52 <_av500_> ah Feb 10 19:47:08 av500 if I remeber correctly cpuType was for the sgx foo Feb 10 19:47:20 <_av500_> woglinde: yes, I said that :) Feb 10 19:48:10 so he needs to compile the timings in Feb 10 19:48:18 :-/ ...there is much on the page re: get it to work and other resources but, im having issues recompiling kernel with correct info Feb 10 19:48:38 right, woglinde Feb 10 19:48:56 because of lack of ddc Feb 10 19:49:15 so download the sdk Feb 10 19:49:19 and recompile it Feb 10 19:49:47 ah not ddc edid Feb 10 19:49:50 it was Feb 10 19:50:26 but first you need the timings Feb 10 19:50:30 i have other PC with backtrack 5, the source kernel sourcery...just mucho roadblockage Feb 10 19:55:23 what is backtrack 5? Feb 10 19:56:03 a distribution Feb 10 19:56:09 yeah Feb 10 19:57:00 I'm thinking of installing linux on a pc, but which distribution should I use, gaussian or poisson? Feb 10 19:57:07 what I need to know is how, where to decompile the kernel. Trying to educate myself in linux Feb 10 19:57:11 mru: normal Feb 10 19:57:46 meh, that's gauss apparently... Feb 10 19:59:02 pardon my noob self all Feb 10 19:59:45 decompile? Feb 10 19:59:50 you have the source Feb 10 20:00:00 hopefully Feb 10 20:00:04 yes Feb 10 20:01:44 rootfs.tar.bz2 can't seem to open though Feb 10 20:02:46 thats the rootfs Feb 10 20:02:50 not the kernel source Feb 10 20:03:09 did you try to change your uenv.txt? Feb 10 20:03:27 also have kernel from https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel Feb 10 20:03:48 used wget but can't find file atm Feb 10 20:05:37 ok, got it again, changed dir for dl. now that I have source...? Feb 10 20:06:11 open with note? Feb 10 20:07:22 wget? Feb 10 20:07:27 you need git Feb 10 20:07:38 wgit? Feb 10 20:07:40 seems you have to learn a lot Feb 10 20:07:49 before you will have sime results Feb 10 20:08:02 try first to change your uenv.txt Feb 10 20:08:40 wget got me the download. is it not the same as git? I changed unev no results Feb 10 20:09:07 if you downloaded the right file Feb 10 20:09:22 <_av500_> Scud: sorry, this is way out of your league Feb 10 20:09:35 scud did you check with dmesg | grep cmdline Feb 10 20:09:46 on the beagle Feb 10 20:10:05 i can follow along, i'll admit it is a bit above me but im not total noob Feb 10 20:10:31 Scud : you'll need to spend some time learning linux Feb 10 20:10:39 Scud: leave that judgement to others Feb 10 20:11:14 wo: dmesg, I have not gotten to that point. Feb 10 20:11:28 Scud : an embedded system like the beagle isn't a very helpful environment for learning linux, so I suggest that you pause the embedded project and spend a few months on learning linux on a regular pc Feb 10 20:11:59 Scud : as a bonus, you will then have a linux system that you know pretty well, which helps when you want to produce things for the linux system on the beagle Feb 10 20:12:35 Scud : if you want to learn the most about linux then work through installing a Linux From Scratch system Feb 10 20:13:04 a couple months full time is reasonable for that if you are a good learner Feb 10 20:13:25 mru: i get that, just trying to get some guidance. My boss gave me this project and i just need to be able to decompile the kernel add what i need and recomp it. Feb 10 20:13:51 that's not how it works Feb 10 20:15:18 Scud : "decompile" suggests that you have fairly little experience with programming, that's a whole other discipline which you really need to learn before you can accomplish much with any embedded system Feb 10 20:15:38 Scud : it looks like you're the wrong person for the job Feb 10 20:15:55 Scud : I don't expect that your boss wants to wait a year for you to educate yourself before delivering Feb 10 20:17:15 understood all, sometimes gotta hit the ground running though...especially in a day where a job is not easy to come by and advancing is more difficult Feb 10 20:17:54 * mru never saw that place/time Feb 10 20:18:55 some resources on how to decompile a kernel would be helpful. if I fudge it up then its on me. if i succeed, I will be able to provide assistance to others like me Feb 10 20:19:46 i have found armtool from toolchain. will that help? Feb 10 20:21:33 hi newbie here.. anyone using beagle to make their own tablet? curious where to source parts like a display, etc Feb 10 20:21:42 Scud : no can do Feb 10 20:23:13 Scud : you really need to climb the learning curve. there is no quick fix, and what you have in mind simply can not succeed Feb 10 20:23:27 q2on : someone making a tablet doesn't want to use the beagle Feb 10 20:23:31 ok Carebear. q2on: chalk-elec has LCD's they claim are useable with beagle, however, having issues getting it going (not building a tablet though) Feb 10 20:23:41 CareBear\: what would you suggest? Feb 10 20:23:52 Scud: hm okay Feb 10 20:23:58 q2on : why do you ask? Feb 10 20:24:20 a2on look at touchbook http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/ Feb 10 20:24:22 interested in hooking up a touch display to custom hardware for fun :) Feb 10 20:24:48 woglinde: thanks Feb 10 20:25:07 Carebear: I'll get back with you when I get it going. hoped for help here all... Feb 10 20:25:08 I'd like to build it though rather than purchase prebuilt Feb 10 20:25:23 scud we give you all help Feb 10 20:25:34 ask your supllier for help Feb 10 20:25:43 if you want it faster Feb 10 20:26:18 the suggestions are appreciated wo and care, etc. If/when i progress I will return Feb 10 20:27:07 whew Feb 10 20:27:13 mru? Feb 10 20:27:30 sometimes it's better if they just leave... Feb 10 20:28:00 this guy clearly had no clue at all what he was doing Feb 10 20:28:49 gm packethead Feb 10 20:50:49 <_av500_> mru: decompilin' a kernel cant be that hard, all you need is pen and paper Feb 10 20:53:13 _av500_: would DT help here? Feb 10 20:54:58 <_av500_> omg, HTML%5 is so much better than Flash: http://tiamat.tsotech.com/surface-pro-tip Feb 10 20:55:02 <_av500_> NOT!!!! Feb 10 20:55:08 <_av500_> what an asshole Feb 10 20:55:27 <_av500_> if I wanted to have a website distract me with spinning circles, I would time travel back 10 years Feb 10 20:58:03 _av500_: in japan, geocities still exists Feb 10 20:59:26 <_av500_> i know Feb 10 21:00:24 and then there's http://www.textfiles.com/underconstruction/ Feb 10 21:00:24 in japan 90% have yahoo is first browser site Feb 10 21:00:28 as Feb 10 21:00:48 but yeah, the guy needs som intensive treatment. maybe force-feeding fphover for a couple of weeks Feb 10 21:03:43 <_av500_> sit him in front of for a week Feb 10 21:04:07 with Feb 10 21:05:22 <_av500_> yes Feb 10 21:05:51 bah, what game was this from http://www.textfiles.com/underconstruction/AtAthensOracle8165construct.gif ? Feb 10 21:43:55 what is l4 core? Feb 10 21:44:19 never heard of it Feb 10 21:45:35 0x4800 0000 is address of L4-core. and on example codes, mmap(NULL, 0x10000, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, fd, 0x48000000); is used Feb 10 21:45:55 I wonder why it is mapped to that address for GPIO pin muxing on beagleboard Feb 10 21:46:04 oh, you're talking about the interconnect Feb 10 21:46:29 it is at that address because the chip designers put it there Feb 10 21:51:08 nfuw : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L4_microkernel_family Feb 10 21:51:25 CareBear\: I don't think that's what he's talking about Feb 10 21:51:47 I don't know Feb 10 21:52:20 well, he mentioned 0x480000000 Feb 10 21:52:36 -0 Feb 10 21:52:46 which is the address of the L4 interconnect Feb 10 21:58:12 oh that kind of core Feb 10 21:58:15 yes makes sense Feb 10 22:00:00 core here might be referring to power domains Feb 10 23:22:13 http://x4350.blogspot.se/2011/01/digital-io-on-beagleboard-using-gpio.html uses "pinconf = (ulong*) mmap(NULL, 0x10000, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, fd, 0x48000000); // set lower 16 pins to GPIO bank5; pinconf[0x2158/4] = 0x00040004;" what is the purpose of /4 on pinconf[0x2158/4]? Feb 10 23:23:46 I can see that /4 removes two least significant bits of the hex value. what is the purpose of it? Feb 10 23:26:25 changing register offset to pin number Feb 10 23:26:34 register size is 4 Feb 10 23:41:41 hi Feb 10 23:42:13 who let him in? Feb 10 23:42:28 me? Feb 10 23:43:05 yeah Feb 10 23:44:14 no love from mru today Feb 10 23:44:26 * mru does not believe in love Feb 10 23:47:50 Russ: I want to use GPT9_PWMEVT, its physical address is lower 16 bit of 0x2174, why it is used pinconf[0x2174/4]=0x0000001A instead of pinconf[0x2174]=0x0000001A? Feb 10 23:48:49 what are we doing here? Feb 10 23:49:03 I could not get how 0x85D (=0x2174 / 4) refers to lower 16 bit of 0x2174 offset? Feb 11 00:03:50 mranostay: just hanging around trying to match people to jobs. Feb 11 00:15:24 I have no clue what you are saying Feb 11 00:15:30 pinconf is an array Feb 11 02:12:37 wb davest **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Feb 11 02:59:58 2013