**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 19 02:59:58 2013 Feb 19 03:09:40 man... the geometery of things on the bone does not bold well for making it small Feb 19 03:20:48 ? Feb 19 03:21:08 you mean smaller than it already is? Feb 19 03:25:03 I can picture getting a minimal implementation of am335x under 700mm^2 Feb 19 03:25:13 am335x, pmic, ddr, and emmc Feb 19 03:27:32 compared to the other beagles Feb 19 03:27:38 the connectors are just huge. Feb 19 03:27:45 oh, the connectors Feb 19 03:27:45 Russ: you will be in SF this week, right? Feb 19 03:27:48 ya Feb 19 03:27:58 I'll show you a side by side comparism of the 2 Feb 19 03:28:04 yes, I imagine the connectors are huge on purpose Feb 19 03:28:16 not just P8/P9 Feb 19 03:28:24 the ethernet Feb 19 03:28:32 and then a Mini USB on the bottom Feb 19 03:28:42 then full size usb on the other side Feb 19 03:29:36 the full size is fine Feb 19 03:29:41 problem is the mini is on the bottom Feb 19 03:29:49 is there a micro ethernet connector yet? Feb 19 03:29:59 place it on top and you gain like 1/8" or more Feb 19 03:30:38 OTH, the battery connector along with the exposed power path pins makes life nice Feb 19 03:30:45 kudoes to doing that Feb 19 04:28:53 hello Feb 19 04:28:57 whats up folks Feb 19 04:31:05 blood pressure, stress, taxes Feb 19 04:41:48 insomnia Feb 19 07:53:08 goodmorning Feb 19 07:55:54 moaning Feb 19 08:30:30 trolls Feb 19 08:41:45 romans Feb 19 09:50:11 believers Feb 19 09:51:45 meh Feb 19 10:03:40 lol: .....Our technology grade of R&D? ---We have postdoctoral working station in factory.... Feb 19 10:07:03 well, it's factory, not a basement Feb 19 10:08:40 at least they are not flipping burgers Feb 19 10:08:48 since its not a meat factory... Feb 19 10:09:46 maybe they are researching horsemeat though Feb 19 10:40:44 greetings from LHR Feb 19 10:43:46 mru: greetings Feb 19 10:43:52 * prpplague is off to the airport as well Feb 19 10:43:53 laters Feb 19 10:44:16 mru: make it LHC Feb 19 10:45:01 collisions are generally frowned upon here Feb 19 10:45:11 not even baggage carts? Feb 19 10:45:21 hmm... Feb 19 10:45:40 koen rule #3? Feb 19 10:59:09 THC? Feb 19 11:53:02 ho ho ho Feb 19 11:53:14 merry freakin tuesday Feb 19 11:53:31 yo, its snowing here Feb 19 11:53:39 nice Feb 19 11:54:52 av500: not a single bar open at 5am.... Feb 19 11:55:06 hehe Feb 19 11:55:47 gm prpplague Feb 19 11:55:59 5 a.m. wow Feb 19 11:56:08 woglinde: greetings Feb 19 12:00:22 * prpplague hopes he gets a seat upgrade Feb 19 12:01:48 for that short flight, there should be only standing room Feb 19 12:01:50 hehe Feb 19 12:02:48 for three hours? Feb 19 12:03:07 i can see that if it were less than one hour... Feb 19 12:04:02 hi arun_ :-) Feb 19 12:05:54 ho ho hum going to be really weird not checking my TI email in two weeks Feb 19 12:06:04 hey beng-nl Feb 19 12:07:52 prpplague hehe soon enough it will be months or years Feb 19 12:09:03 woglinde: yea just seems an abrupt end to three years of work Feb 19 12:15:26 prpplague: your new work doesnt have email? Feb 19 12:15:41 cute Feb 19 12:15:54 gm koth Feb 19 12:16:14 koth I wondered if you are allowed to eat horse meat Feb 19 12:16:33 woglinde: i'm muslim, not catholic Feb 19 12:17:31 and? Feb 19 12:18:24 woglinde: muslims are not supposed to eat pork Feb 19 12:18:37 okay Feb 19 12:18:42 thats why I asked Feb 19 12:18:44 woglinde: catholics are not supposed to eat horse meat Feb 19 12:18:54 uhm really? Feb 19 12:18:57 yeah Feb 19 12:18:58 never heard of that Feb 19 12:19:15 some pope forbid it, because he liked horses so much Feb 19 12:19:35 nobody follows that ofc :) Feb 19 12:20:02 meh... i like undocumented registers Feb 19 12:22:30 KotH: entire undocumented IP blocks are even better Feb 19 12:22:49 KotH: like the TI crypto stuff Feb 19 12:27:17 KotH: are you implying, that this whole hores-meat thing is a muslim conspiracy to taint all the catholics? ;) Feb 19 12:28:46 dm8tbr: nope, it is actually the catholics trying to frame the muslims Feb 19 12:28:47 dm8tbr: you would imagine they already got tainted by all the pedo stuff with the priests .. Feb 19 12:28:59 :D Feb 19 12:29:05 Jacmet: pedo stuff is ok, the bible doesnt forbid it Feb 19 12:29:12 * dm8tbr loves conspiracy theories Feb 19 12:38:05 * prpplague gets ready to board Feb 19 12:38:08 laters Feb 19 12:38:30 * KotH eats some läderach chocolate Feb 19 12:39:32 no durumsnickers? Feb 19 12:40:42 ynezz: i guess we have never met, have we? Feb 19 12:41:05 dunno, maybe two lifes ago Feb 19 12:41:20 taht means no Feb 19 12:41:30 if we had met, you would remember my chocolate :) Feb 19 12:42:04 .o(mental notice, do not take chocolate from the muslim) Feb 19 12:42:38 poor woglinde! he'll miss all the fun! Feb 19 12:47:05 oh my god what a useless project Feb 19 12:47:06 Droidifi Feb 19 12:49:11 wifi routers, now with worms and troyans Feb 19 12:49:57 you can run angry birds on it Feb 19 12:50:06 hm hey wait where is the touchscreen Feb 19 12:50:20 remote controlled over your cellphone Feb 19 12:52:58 vnc? Feb 19 12:54:14 i'm quite sure android contains its own NIH clone of vnc Feb 19 12:57:32 no Feb 19 13:18:30 hm Feb 19 13:58:21 "Power Boost - boost the wireless power output" Feb 19 13:58:33 how do they do that? jelly beans? Feb 19 13:58:59 I thought, that beans boost another output Feb 19 13:59:44 512MB RAM, let's waste it Feb 19 14:02:44 ynezz? Feb 19 14:03:02 which router has 512 mb ram? Feb 19 14:03:11 LOL: ....the use of this product will have a fever, which is a normal phenomenon.... Feb 19 14:03:18 that droidifi Feb 19 14:03:28 besides I wonder how android will fit inside 8mb Feb 19 14:03:40 droidifi is software not hw Feb 19 14:03:44 the rest on usb flashdisk? :p Feb 19 14:04:01 and wifi bitbanged over hdmi Feb 19 14:04:03 Droidek Feb 19 14:04:05 Droideky Feb 19 14:04:06 Droideka Feb 19 14:04:08 artgh Feb 19 14:04:12 * av500 gices up Feb 19 14:04:14 lol Feb 19 14:04:16 no Feb 19 14:04:20 av500 calm down Feb 19 14:04:32 hehe Feb 19 14:04:32 DONT TELL ME TO CALM DOWN Feb 19 14:04:36 I AM PERFECTLY CALM!!!!!!!!!!! Feb 19 14:04:41 ynezz: wifi bitbanged over hdmi Feb 19 14:04:49 +1 Feb 19 14:04:50 ynezz: that a RPi thing? Feb 19 14:04:59 yep, dual band Feb 19 14:05:21 hehe Feb 19 14:05:45 i love the hackaday post about "hacking hdmi" when all they did was sniff i2c Feb 19 14:06:16 prpplague the flight was short Feb 19 14:06:38 woglinde: on the flight now Feb 19 14:06:46 uh Feb 19 14:06:57 I thought only in the big ones they have wifi Feb 19 14:06:57 d'oh Feb 19 14:07:09 ping prpplague Feb 19 14:07:31 woglinde: everything is bigger in texas Feb 19 14:07:40 ynezz: pong Feb 19 14:07:46 not bad Feb 19 14:08:00 thats a nice picture haha Feb 19 14:08:02 http://oregonianphoto.tumblr.com/post/42651006146/salem-oregon-february-8-2013-jacob-kalmbach Feb 19 14:08:10 in germany you would be dead Feb 19 14:08:42 woglinde: a little warning, i am on a plane... Feb 19 14:08:47 :D Feb 19 14:09:36 NSFP Feb 19 14:10:01 looks like screenshot from counterstrike Feb 19 14:10:20 prpplague did not you teacher explained to you that you do not klick on links the stranger gives you Feb 19 14:10:47 woglinde: are you a stranger? Feb 19 14:11:01 in chat all are strangers Feb 19 14:11:13 woglinde: here in .cz you can even shoot at president(with plastic balls) and still be alive :) Feb 19 14:11:35 ynezz do not forget it is inside the local parliment Feb 19 14:11:43 and LEGAL Feb 19 14:11:52 hell yeah! Feb 19 14:12:15 ynezz: and if you're a group of Danish students you can apparently trash hotels and what not without problems :P Feb 19 14:12:17 prpplague: why a warning? are you in a fighter plane? Feb 19 14:12:27 av500 sky marshall Feb 19 14:12:34 is that like Sky MAll? Feb 19 14:12:48 Jacmet: our customer is our king :) Feb 19 14:13:41 * prpplague grumbles and complains about the stupidness of ubuntu 12.04 with (Dis)Unity Feb 19 14:13:54 prpplague o.O Feb 19 14:13:57 install lxde Feb 19 14:14:42 install Linux Feb 19 14:15:03 install droidifi Feb 19 14:15:23 argh Feb 19 14:15:32 onboard wifi - no beer Feb 19 14:15:44 nerdplane Feb 19 14:15:45 no whiskey? Feb 19 14:16:46 * av500 had 2 beers flying back from sofia Feb 19 14:16:52 one to Munich and one to Fra Feb 19 14:17:58 sternpils? Feb 19 14:18:15 or neptune? Feb 19 14:18:17 warsteiner Feb 19 14:18:51 in fact the beer is best value for money Feb 19 14:18:58 if you ask for a softdrink you get like 0.1l Feb 19 14:19:07 http://www.biertest-online.de/cgi-bin/show/ebs.pl?Data=neptun_krone_pilsener Feb 19 14:19:14 in a dentist cup Feb 19 14:19:28 beer yields a 0.3bottle Feb 19 14:19:34 5 euros Feb 19 14:19:39 ? Feb 19 14:19:45 6? Feb 19 14:19:49 or free Feb 19 14:19:56 free Feb 19 14:19:59 LH Feb 19 14:19:59 ah Feb 19 14:20:02 yes Feb 19 14:20:19 only the best for useless tripps Feb 19 14:20:26 yes Feb 19 14:20:37 in fact, it was the cheapest too Feb 19 14:20:46 intressting Feb 19 14:21:03 I thought there was some cheap bulgarian airline Feb 19 14:21:06 and aeroflot Feb 19 14:21:13 to moscow maybe Feb 19 14:21:25 moscow sofia hm Feb 19 14:22:59 woglinde: ok, airberlin via berlin Feb 19 14:23:20 or KLM via AMS, lol Feb 19 14:23:34 many ways to rome Feb 19 14:25:56 what will you do in rome ? Feb 19 14:26:12 joining the club ? Feb 19 14:26:17 visting the pope? Feb 19 14:27:34 k3.8 stats - https://lwn.net/Articles/537110/ Feb 19 14:27:41 looks like TI is already dropping Feb 19 14:28:55 prpplague: yeah :/ Feb 19 14:29:44 prpplague: pls post the working link Feb 19 14:30:21 av500 haha Feb 19 14:30:29 its in the future Feb 19 14:30:29 av500: hehe Feb 19 14:30:30 :D Feb 19 14:30:39 back to it Feb 19 14:30:48 av500: maybe you should subscribe, hehe Feb 19 14:30:56 maybe Feb 19 14:31:00 av500: http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/537110/1caa5502ab9b5bfa/ Feb 19 14:31:02 I will not Feb 19 14:31:15 I can wait Feb 19 14:31:28 damn snow again Feb 19 14:39:33 damn it, woke up too early Feb 19 14:39:51 Crofton: doh Feb 19 14:40:11 * prpplague hands Crofton a beer Feb 19 14:40:19 I need to suppress audible otification o phone based on local time Feb 19 14:40:30 hmm, I hvae a couple in the fridge Feb 19 14:40:39 and my office stash was found yesterday Feb 19 14:40:52 which is good, because i forgot I hid them Feb 19 15:06:10 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.subversion.user/112538 Feb 19 15:06:51 odd Feb 19 15:19:32 av500: heh Feb 19 15:23:17 girly Feb 19 15:34:39 * koen- yawns Feb 19 15:34:58 gm koen Feb 19 16:16:30 morning trolls Feb 19 16:17:10 and flying trolls Feb 19 16:20:53 trolls are crepuscular? Feb 19 16:21:56 hi mranostay Feb 19 16:24:17 hi everyone Feb 19 16:24:56 Having some problems displaying the X window on systemd-gnome-image. The system boots properly but shows the console login in both the serial terminal and the screen. screen shows terminal tty1 and serial terminal ttyO2. Any ideas? Feb 19 16:26:15 yes, don't use systemd. Feb 19 16:27:02 haha. which other image has gui/gtk/x window? Feb 19 16:32:24 starklombardi just your xlogin manager manually Feb 19 16:32:29 first option Feb 19 16:32:33 second option Feb 19 16:32:45 get familiar with systemd and how debug it Feb 19 16:32:51 hehe http://xkcd.com/1162/ Feb 19 16:33:11 mranostay yes already seen Feb 19 16:34:25 woglinde: you are no fun :P Feb 19 16:35:37 Hi Feb 19 16:36:06 @woglinde thanks Feb 19 16:36:42 Anybody can suggest, how good is using netbeans as a ide for beaglebobe with angstrong linux Feb 19 16:37:35 sounds horrible Feb 19 16:58:43 Anyone has 5 mins to confirm that the bone crashes at 720 MHz but not at 600 MHz, here is a script to config the gpmc http://pastebin.ca/2314242 and here is the trivial c code: http://pastebin.ca/2314245 Feb 19 17:06:38 jsabeaudry: I have no bone with me atm, sorry Feb 19 17:21:21 gm Feb 19 17:23:03 panto: morning greek dude Feb 19 17:23:13 hi mr Feb 19 17:23:18 hi mranostay even Feb 19 17:23:22 tab fail Feb 19 17:27:39 woglinde solved it. did not know that the gnome environment needed to be configured, as I could see all the gnome/x-window programs were installed. Thanks for all the help Feb 19 17:29:08 not for that Feb 19 18:37:34 Anyone has had issues disabling write protect on the bone rev a6? writing to the eeprom times out on two of the boards I have Feb 19 20:40:54 hm all at elc now Feb 19 20:42:21 not yet Feb 19 20:57:38 yocto day! Feb 19 20:57:46 still haven't seen koen yet Feb 19 21:00:02 he got eaten by a yoctopus Feb 19 21:01:39 alan_o for trolling? Feb 19 21:01:47 kraken!!!!!!!!!!! dm8tbr Feb 19 21:02:10 woglinde: you've awakened _it_ Feb 19 21:02:19 better than awakening IT though Feb 19 21:02:27 godzilla !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Feb 19 21:05:09 oh hey, koen is trolling in the back Feb 19 21:05:15 and so is jkridner Feb 19 21:07:25 aye Feb 19 21:07:39 and at 2:30 I'll be trolling from the front Feb 19 21:25:30 lumdidum Feb 19 21:38:49 ds2 in da house! Feb 19 21:39:07 * koen- hides the NAND Feb 19 21:41:25 I am willing to pay the iron price Feb 19 21:44:25 oooh Feb 19 21:44:28 GoT references Feb 19 21:44:33 gm Feb 19 21:44:45 hey koen- Feb 19 21:44:49 where are you now? Feb 19 21:44:51 heja panto Feb 19 21:45:06 panto: yocto room (mission) Feb 19 21:45:33 hi woglinde Feb 19 21:45:49 I haven't paid for that :) Feb 19 21:46:08 lazing in the conference lobby Feb 19 21:47:37 I have a panel in 40 minutes Feb 19 21:47:44 so I can't escape :) Feb 19 21:47:45 I got to troll that Feb 19 21:48:50 http://cgit.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/commit/src/compositor-fbdev.c?id=4f49917ec5a3e212d85b15c96a580116c3ef5a15 Feb 19 21:49:13 hmmm Feb 19 21:49:27 I'd like to run that on the 1.8" spi lcd Feb 19 21:49:34 koen-, ohh nice Feb 19 21:50:57 so its going directfb Feb 19 21:51:42 yes Feb 19 21:51:42 but without the NIH Feb 19 21:51:52 I'm pretty sure directfb is more optimized Feb 19 21:51:56 don't they have neon opts? Feb 19 21:52:13 this is using pixman Feb 19 21:52:22 panto not for all framebuffers Feb 19 21:52:37 that has neon all around Feb 19 21:52:39 and mmx Feb 19 21:52:42 and mips dsp Feb 19 21:52:44 etc Feb 19 21:52:49 and I lied a bit Feb 19 21:52:59 hi alan_o Feb 19 21:53:04 are you here yet? Feb 19 21:53:06 hey man :) Feb 19 21:53:12 its not directly directfb but the compositor based on top Feb 19 21:53:14 panto: yeah, I'm at Yocto day Feb 19 21:53:28 channel trolls yocto talks Feb 19 21:53:47 woglinde: are you here? Feb 19 21:53:51 I'll probably go troll koen's panel Feb 19 21:54:00 woglinde: I guess I don't know what you look like :) Feb 19 21:54:09 heh, me neither Feb 19 21:54:11 panto: cool. 2:30 Feb 19 21:54:32 mranostay will get here by 4 I think Feb 19 21:55:26 alan_o I am not at elc Feb 19 21:55:33 I am at home Feb 19 21:55:35 sorry Feb 19 21:55:44 next time :) Feb 19 21:56:44 hmm, 3.8 is out Feb 19 21:57:22 panto *g* did you sleep? Feb 19 21:57:43 barely Feb 19 21:57:54 * Russ practices saying umm a bunch of times Feb 19 21:58:09 I'm not in contant with the developer intertubes here Feb 19 22:01:13 hmmm Feb 19 22:01:26 Yocto kernel lab => exact steps. I like it Feb 19 22:01:58 ick Feb 19 22:30:13 bleh Feb 19 22:30:25 yucky abomination Feb 19 22:30:43 which one? there are plenty abominations to go around Feb 19 22:32:59 all Feb 19 22:34:03 So, when's the black hitting the stores? Feb 19 22:54:24 I have no idea to what you are referring sir Feb 19 22:54:40 haha Feb 19 22:54:53 jsabeaudry before the blue ones Feb 19 23:00:18 woot Crofton Feb 19 23:01:08 heh Feb 19 23:01:18 I am trolling Feb 19 23:01:38 Crofton: troll louder. I can't hear you :) Feb 19 23:07:07 what noise does a troll make Feb 19 23:09:35 WHARGARBL Feb 19 23:09:49 If you wanted to know. Feb 19 23:09:58 good nite to all Feb 19 23:23:03 Swiss cheese has lots of holes Feb 19 23:23:17 the MORE holes you have, the LESS chesse you have Feb 19 23:23:29 the MORE cheese you have, the MORE holes you have Feb 19 23:23:45 Thus, the MORE cheese you have, the LESS cheese you have Feb 19 23:35:39 hi trolls Feb 19 23:35:58 who is all here? Feb 19 23:36:07 we are all here Feb 19 23:36:27 in spirit? Feb 19 23:37:39 no one is here Feb 19 23:39:40 here is o relative Feb 19 23:39:46 so Feb 20 00:22:33 where is everyone? Feb 20 00:22:51 mru: some are at yocto day Feb 20 00:23:07 mru can't speak for panto, mranostay, or mdp Feb 20 00:23:10 When building kernel for -xM, do I still use omap2plus_defconfig ? Feb 20 00:34:22 gabrbedd: check out this https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/3.8 Feb 20 00:34:42 bone and -xM kernels come from that Feb 20 00:34:56 (change branch for version). I'm not sure the status of 3.9 Feb 20 00:39:28 Hmmm... but that's a patch set -- not a kernel tree. Feb 20 00:39:44 alan_o: and even then -- which config do I use? Feb 20 00:40:16 alan_o: oh, I see. Feb 20 00:40:29 (Was looking at 3.6 before) Feb 20 00:40:47 oh well, I guess that's *it* Feb 20 00:46:12 gabrbedd: The readme.md tells how to build it Feb 20 00:46:31 There's a script that downloads mainline and patches it Feb 20 00:46:43 then you build it with configs/beagleboard (copy that to .config) Feb 20 00:47:13 readme.md even has exact steps :) Feb 20 00:51:42 alan_o: thank you. that's what I'm working with, now. Feb 20 00:57:06 almost at sf hotel for elc, would love to meet some of you. give me a shout if you're around. should be there by around 9'ish Feb 20 00:58:16 in flight internet sucks Feb 20 00:58:17 same here Feb 20 00:58:25 leaving for the airport now Feb 20 00:58:34 Russ: ah, safe flight **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Feb 20 02:59:58 2013