**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Feb 20 02:59:58 2013 Feb 20 04:35:56 Made it to SFO Feb 20 05:30:08 Headed down to the parc55 bar Feb 20 05:38:50 Anyone else down here Feb 20 05:39:22 up here Feb 20 05:42:39 That makes no sense to me Feb 20 05:43:28 I saw Linus W, but that's it Feb 20 05:45:11 * dm8tbr is at !ELC Feb 20 05:45:30 I am using a Beaglebone with the preinstalled Angstrom linux. I want to set a boot option for the Kernel, i.e. "mem=128M". Tried editing uEnv.txt in /boot/ but I see no effect. Does anyone have an idea? Feb 20 05:46:08 Which /boot? Feb 20 05:46:25 The one on the ext3 partition? Feb 20 05:46:46 after booting the device, log in and then /boot/uEnv.txt Feb 20 05:47:34 Check /proc/mounts top see weekday you ate dealing with Feb 20 05:47:40 Bah Feb 20 05:47:50 See what you are dealing with Feb 20 05:49:51 thats propably the problem. don't see a separate entry for boot there. Feb 20 05:50:13 I'll stop the device and access the card directly on my laptop Feb 20 05:53:42 Thanks a lot for the quick help. Solved it already. I somehow assumed that /boot/ would be the one where uEnv was read from.... Feb 20 05:59:42 something-killer: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/annikaskywalker/microprocessor-about-the-cost-and-size-of-a-pack-o Feb 20 06:00:39 Hello everyone! Could I have a question? I´ve had a BeagleBoard xM since last year a it worked perfectly. But now it seems like the Angstrom does not save data to memory. If I boot up my BealeBoard and make change by gedit in my .c file, chnge are not saved after switch off the Beagle. So I make changes and file is (after reset, or switch off,switch on) same as after I switch on the Beagle at the first time. Deos anybody have the Feb 20 06:02:30 Av500, I'm guessing kitting all the boards will cost more than just assembling an smd version Feb 20 06:02:57 Not to mention the smd version will have a much smaller PCB Feb 20 06:04:24 but but but Feb 20 06:04:29 then you cannot upgrade it Feb 20 06:04:31 later Feb 20 06:04:41 with an atmega 328 DX4 Feb 20 06:05:19 Heh Feb 20 06:06:30 Show me a kick starter that wants to make 10M with a wire bonded bare die Feb 20 06:07:01 10 cents per Feb 20 06:10:02 something-else-killer: http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/02/20/59-pcduino-allwinner-a10-board-with-arduino-compatible-headers Feb 20 06:10:18 Anyway, these days, of the 8 bit micro is why you can't build your robotics project, what is your robot, a blinking led? Feb 20 06:14:26 I'm building a custom kernel, and booting it with the u-boot.bin that came with the beagleboard-xm. After mod'ing UENV.TXT to change ttyS2 to ttyO2, I boot with many errors and then stall on "Waiting for root device /dev/mmcblk0p2" Feb 20 06:15:17 Kernel is 3.8 via git://github.com/beagleboard/kernel.git Feb 20 06:16:03 I don't think the device tree file is getting loaded at boot. Think that's the problem? Feb 20 06:17:07 pastebin a full boot log Feb 20 06:21:43 av500: http://pastebin.com/HbWLwhTD Feb 20 06:27:17 lot of fails in there Feb 20 06:29:13 av500: yeah, I expected more things to "just work." Should I try to build 3.7 or something? Feb 20 06:29:34 * gabrbedd tried rebuilding u-boot, but then u-boot wouldn't work. :-/ Feb 20 06:30:32 3.8 stock + dt + u-boot v2013.01 worked for me on xm as far as MMC is concerned Feb 20 06:32:17 Russ|mobile: what compiler do you use? (I was building u-boot v2013.01) Feb 20 06:32:31 ...and used omap3_beagle_config Feb 20 06:32:56 Don't remember Feb 20 06:33:25 Probably a 4.7 one Feb 20 06:33:50 Russ|mobile: codesourcery? Feb 20 06:34:29 No Feb 20 06:40:47 Russ|mobile: does x-loader and u-boot have to be matched, somehow? Feb 20 06:41:08 Afaik Feb 20 06:41:14 And it Feb 20 06:41:53 It's MLO and u-boot.img now Feb 20 06:43:24 ok. Feb 20 07:04:31 Russ|mobile: had to use the MLO and u-boot.img that was generated by u-boot v2013.01 Feb 20 07:04:49 Russ|mobile: I was mistaken to think I needed to download and build x-loader separately. Feb 20 07:05:15 Doesn't fix the original problem... but at least I'm cussing less, now. :-) Feb 20 07:11:11 * gabrbedd will tackle the device tree issue tomorrow. Feb 20 07:11:17 good night! Feb 20 07:11:26 Russ|mobile: and... thanks! Feb 20 07:14:52 Russ|mobile: you en route? Feb 20 07:16:36 I'm in my room Feb 20 07:16:46 gm Feb 20 07:20:12 I'm trying to make UART2 with flow control working... So far, I've enabled RX and TX pins (set 0x01 to spi0_d0 and 0x21 to spi0_sclk), however I've also tried to set 0x36 to lcd_data8 and lcd_data9, which in mode 6 should work as UART2_RTSn and UART2_CTSn. However, these flow control signals doesn't work. Maybe someone could help me why? Feb 20 07:21:46 scrts_ hm nearly all gurus are at elc Feb 20 07:21:52 so you have to wait Feb 20 07:22:08 sorry, what is elc? :) Feb 20 07:28:34 Russ|mobile: Parc55? Feb 20 07:29:06 Ya Feb 20 07:29:09 scrts embedded linux conference Feb 20 07:34:52 * joel_ in room too. just got here. ran into kevin, chase, and also saw jkridner and mru grabbing a drink ;) Feb 20 07:36:00 where is Linus W and mdp ? Feb 20 07:36:13 too tired to drink Feb 20 07:36:18 same Feb 20 07:39:55 * joel_ hacks some code for the demo Feb 20 07:43:09 too drink to tired Feb 20 07:43:39 av500, its too early there....(and late here) Feb 20 07:51:12 mranostay, are you here? Feb 20 07:54:26 drinking is good Feb 20 08:00:12 yes, but usually after Tea Feb 20 08:04:07 ka6sox I did not say what to drin Feb 20 08:04:08 k Feb 20 08:04:53 Perrier? Evian? Feb 20 08:08:41 PBR Feb 20 08:42:52 Tartarus: just fyi, I will have a patch soon that creates a FIT out of dtbs-y Feb 20 08:57:25 Tartarus: btw, at ELC too? Feb 20 09:49:39 <_av500_> /me throws a fit Feb 20 09:51:56 hm? Feb 20 11:04:25 bone-killer: http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/02/20/silica-pengwyn-low-cost-open-industrial-development-platform-powered-by-sitara-am3354-processor/ Feb 20 11:41:04 av500: seems a nice board, a cheaper AM3352 variant minus the DVI would be nice, an SD card slot seems an odd addition with the onboard NAND Feb 20 11:42:59 depending on the price of the whitelabel bbb, it might seem hard to justify when they appear; especially as they call it industrial, but don't seem to make any claims about longevity; temperatures etc... Feb 20 11:47:24 es Feb 20 12:16:32 It looks very nice. I agree I would like a variant minus DVI, plus lvds Feb 20 13:03:50 with a sata board, i'd imediatly buy it Feb 20 13:03:55 but other than that... well.. Feb 20 13:04:04 s/board/port/ Feb 20 13:05:04 why do people insist on sata ports on SoCs that have no native SATA? Feb 20 13:05:43 jackmitchell: I guess it has NAND because the Arago Wiki is full of "copy MLO to the sdcard" Feb 20 13:05:47 only 256 mb ram Feb 20 13:08:33 av500: i dont insist on a sata port on SoCs that dont have SATA, but i want a _board_ that has SATA, small but important difference :) Feb 20 13:09:05 then this board is not for you Feb 20 13:13:43 juup Feb 20 13:13:52 * KotH is rather a customer of chocolate boards Feb 20 13:16:12 * av500 rather buys snowboards Feb 20 13:21:37 hm, DVI Feb 20 13:22:00 there must have been some wholesale of those connectors Feb 20 13:22:14 isn't it like 90's? Feb 20 13:22:21 no? Feb 20 13:22:40 no? Feb 20 13:22:45 I only very recently jumped from DVI to DisplayPort and that wasn't by choice Feb 20 13:24:39 the "industrial" people move slower Feb 20 13:24:48 *g* Feb 20 13:25:01 these baords are replacing some 486 running DOS Feb 20 13:25:19 any ETA on that blackbomb with uHDMI and eMMC (finally!) Feb 20 13:25:22 ? Feb 20 13:28:02 what? Feb 20 13:28:14 s3cr3t Feb 20 13:28:16 you mean the secret device? Feb 20 13:28:17 blackish bone! Feb 20 13:28:25 * av500 should boot his Feb 20 13:28:42 ynezz: all you need is a black sharpie Feb 20 13:29:18 spraycans can do wonders Feb 20 13:51:43 * KotH knows someone who does wonders by putting her finger into a bathtube and stiring the water Feb 20 13:53:40 So back her with some eroors to setup the Angstrom building with http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom Feb 20 13:54:28 I have the sript cloned but when I run MACHINE=beagleboard ./oebb.sh config beagleboard Feb 20 13:55:14 fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly /home/ttu/OE_beagle/setup-scripts/scripts/layerman: line 19: cd: /home/ttu/OE_beagle/setup-scripts/sources/bitbake: No such file or directory fatal: Could not parse object 'b1dbc24ebcc4e5100c32568c2c41fd982fb4bcce'. Layers present in repository: find: `/home/ttu/OE_beagle/setup-scripts/sources/bitbake': No such file or directory Feb 20 13:56:00 a a lot of othr errors this kind Feb 20 14:00:38 you've probably missed that 'fatal' error Feb 20 14:01:28 ? Feb 20 14:02:08 fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly Feb 20 14:02:11 fix that Feb 20 14:02:22 how Feb 20 14:02:30 buy the remote more chocolates Feb 20 14:02:54 or ask your supervisor Feb 20 14:04:13 those damn 3 steps... Feb 20 14:05:40 no chocolate, no supervisor so need help here Feb 20 14:08:13 im guesing Im behing hevily protected network in the univeryty lab Feb 20 14:09:33 then edit oebb.sh and add your proxy host/port Feb 20 14:09:42 tried to modify the oebb.sh by removing the # of first 2 proxy lines and comendting out the 3-d line Feb 20 14:09:58 then it's time to go home Feb 20 14:10:24 and enjoy your unprotected interweb access Feb 20 14:11:11 yep seems to be working on my laptop with public wireless network Feb 20 14:11:29 but I need to get it working on my despktop machine also Feb 20 14:11:41 witch has no wireless Feb 20 14:11:48 ask your network administrators Feb 20 14:12:14 unfortunately we can't diagnose the issues with your network topology from gere Feb 20 14:12:18 s/gere/here Feb 20 14:16:30 I used http to clone the stript Feb 20 14:16:54 cant I modyfy the oebb script tu use http insted Feb 20 14:17:54 you're missing a lot of details here Feb 20 14:18:07 simply forget about it and don't waste your time Feb 20 14:18:25 use unrestricted internet Feb 20 14:18:59 universities these days... Feb 20 14:19:42 OK Feb 20 14:59:37 trolls trolls trolls Feb 20 15:00:37 trololololo Feb 20 15:39:29 /window goto 1 Feb 20 15:39:33 gah Feb 20 15:40:00 * KotH moves mranostay to window 1 Feb 20 15:41:51 morning trolls Feb 20 15:43:29 hey mru Feb 20 15:45:54 Hi Guys Feb 20 15:46:15 I am trying to find some examples ho to program beaglebone as I2C Feb 20 15:46:21 can anyone help me ? Feb 20 15:46:37 i mean I2C slave Feb 20 15:48:43 is anyone here, that knows how to get monitor output using omapdss? i have a beagle xm Feb 20 15:49:31 the linux kernel does Feb 20 15:50:36 are you joking or is that someone's user handle? Feb 20 15:50:48 huh? Feb 20 15:51:20 dss driver is a part of the kernel Feb 20 15:51:44 yes. i'm aware of that. Feb 20 15:51:47 so that's one way to put something on the screen Feb 20 15:52:05 i guess the trolls should get stirring Feb 20 15:52:33 mranostay: hi Feb 20 15:53:28 i tried googling it. but I didn't really find any guides or tutorials at all for using it. I'm kind of a noob. Feb 20 15:53:53 doesnt the default angstrom image output something already? Feb 20 15:54:32 yes, it does. I then downloaded buildroot to build my own enviroment Feb 20 15:55:05 *yawn* Feb 20 15:55:59 i'm under the impression that I need to configure omapdss to work. not sure what exactly I need to do and in what order? Feb 20 16:00:39 i was hoping someone could at least point me in the right direction Feb 20 16:01:26 what do you want to display? Feb 20 16:01:29 the framebuffer? Feb 20 16:01:31 the console? Feb 20 16:01:33 X? Feb 20 16:01:53 well, for now I would like to get the console to the monitor Feb 20 16:02:31 should be enough to enable omapfb Feb 20 16:02:43 and give it the same kernel command params as angstrom dies Feb 20 16:02:45 does Feb 20 16:02:58 ok Feb 20 16:03:11 assuming you are using the same kernel Feb 20 16:06:13 ok, enable omapfb. do i need to tell the kernel to create a console on the monitor output? Feb 20 16:09:15 [17:02:31] should be enough to enable omapfb Feb 20 16:09:16 [17:02:43] and give it the same kernel command params as angstrom dies Feb 20 16:09:18 does Feb 20 16:09:31 see, you have a known good system with angstrom Feb 20 16:11:04 i have tested with the angstrom image, and everything works Feb 20 16:13:26 so, use it as a basis Feb 20 16:18:23 av500: hey my favorite troll Feb 20 16:18:31 hey punk Feb 20 16:18:32 :) Feb 20 16:18:38 that gpio posting changed my life :P Feb 20 16:18:44 :) Feb 20 16:19:50 gimme some o' that allwinner goodness. Feb 20 16:20:15 mmmm Feb 20 16:20:37 I wonder if we should design a high speed bitbanger Feb 20 16:20:44 so who is trolling me in 2.5 hours? Feb 20 16:20:56 some insanely fast shift register that blasts out bits at 10gbit/s Feb 20 16:20:58 probably illegal in some southern US states. Feb 20 16:21:12 Need help with Angstrom building Feb 20 16:21:29 Akzzz: the old rules still apply Feb 20 16:21:29 ERROR: OE-core's config sanity checker detected a potential misconfiguration. Feb 20 16:21:43 * av500 wish he had a sanity checker Feb 20 16:21:51 * emeb lost his long ago Feb 20 16:22:47 i traded mine for some PBR Feb 20 16:22:49 wicth old rules Feb 20 16:23:00 the old rules of actually asking a question Feb 20 16:23:13 + info] Feb 20 16:23:52 Hav been following the http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom guid Feb 20 16:24:11 and when I input MACHINE=beagleboard ./oebb.sh bitbake virtual/kernel Feb 20 16:24:16 I got error Feb 20 16:24:23 ERROR: OE-core's config sanity checker detected a potential misconfiguration Feb 20 16:24:41 ERROR: Execution of event handler 'check_sanity_eventhandler' failed Feb 20 16:24:42 * av500 lols at: https://www.yoctoproject.org/sites/yoctoproject.org/files/featured/os64yocot-q4-assetsweb-bannerv1b.jpeg Feb 20 16:25:10 Akzzz: pastebin the whole error, those two lines are pretty meaningless Feb 20 16:26:04 mranostay: speaking of PBR.... Feb 20 16:27:08 DEBUG: Using cache in '/home/akz/OE/setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_v2012_05-eglibc/cache/bb_codeparser.dat' for codeparser cache ERROR: OE-core's config sanity checker detected a potential misconfiguration. Either fix the cause of this error or at your own risk disable the checker (see sanity.conf). Following is the list of potential problems / advisories: Do not use Bitbake as root. ERROR: Execution of event handler 'c Feb 20 16:27:14 pastebin Feb 20 16:27:17 not pastehere Feb 20 16:27:32 never met pastebin Feb 20 16:27:54 * mranostay facepalms Feb 20 16:28:14 av500: need to submit a talk on how to irc properly Feb 20 16:28:32 Akzzz: take note of this Feb 20 16:28:39 Akzzz: Do not use Bitbake as root. Feb 20 16:29:00 Akzzz: did you meet google? Feb 20 16:29:05 I would advise you not to use bitbake as root, as it will fail Feb 20 16:29:06 he is a nice guy Feb 20 16:29:09 knows a ton Feb 20 16:29:11 when I used as a user I got another error Feb 20 16:29:15 so I used root Feb 20 16:29:24 ok, lets go round the loop again, question + info Feb 20 16:29:49 Akzzz: using root also gave you an error Feb 20 16:30:41 Akzzz: http://www.google.de/search?q=pastebin Feb 20 16:31:31 http://pastebin.com/NmvQXAk7 Feb 20 16:32:06 Again: Do not use Bitbake as root. Feb 20 16:32:25 What is the error when you don't use root? Feb 20 16:33:58 jackmitchell, Akzzz It's possible that the run through with root may have created some broken files that his unpriveleged self can't access/change Feb 20 16:34:20 ok then another pasebin Feb 20 16:34:23 http://pastebin.com/EKaKLq2K Feb 20 16:35:10 ok, yes. It seems your directory now has some 'root' file which when you use a normal user, can't read Feb 20 16:35:38 delete the whole angstrom directory, clone the git repo again, and this time don't use root Feb 20 16:35:50 OK Feb 20 16:35:53 will tray Feb 20 16:38:13 jackmitchell: if root is not good, how about sudo? :) Feb 20 16:38:48 sudo make me a sandwich Feb 20 16:39:02 av500: sudo solves all problems without the danger of being root, right? Feb 20 16:39:15 when I need a new kernel, here's what I do: http://pastebin.com/cTmBK9wJ Feb 20 16:40:23 av500: like Ubuntu OS where they only give you sudo so you can't break the system with root... ;) Feb 20 16:42:41 its just a Texas Speedbump.. Feb 20 16:43:20 sudo = armadillo? Feb 20 16:43:34 armasudo. Feb 20 16:43:45 yup Feb 20 16:44:27 do you have to be careful not to get leprosy when using sudo? Feb 20 16:45:18 emeb: you do the above pastebin steps each time you need a kernel? Feb 20 16:45:30 Deleted the OE floder and started over as normal user, still the same: Feb 20 16:45:31 http://pastebin.com/FhT6DMPS Feb 20 16:45:49 Akzzz: not the smae Feb 20 16:45:54 s/smae/same Feb 20 16:46:05 Akzzz: this time it tells you to: Feb 20 16:46:06 Please install following missing utilities: texi2html,makeinfo,chrpath Feb 20 16:46:09 av500: not always. Only when I'm not sure of the provenance of the current oe build dir. Feb 20 16:46:19 Akzzz: can you read? Feb 20 16:46:22 Akzzz: It even tells you, are you reading the error messages? Feb 20 16:46:29 OK diferent error :) Feb 20 16:46:36 answer the question Feb 20 16:46:39 can you read? Feb 20 16:46:40 Please install following missing utilities: texi2html,makeinfo,chrpath Feb 20 16:46:46 yes Feb 20 16:46:51 then do :) Feb 20 16:46:53 i think Feb 20 16:46:58 OK Feb 20 16:47:06 read first, think later :) Feb 20 16:47:15 good advice Feb 20 16:47:22 :) Feb 20 17:01:44 How long does this image building usualy takes Feb 20 17:02:45 And if I want a working DSPlink I need to MACHINE=beagleboard ./oebb.sh bitbake ti-dsplink Feb 20 17:12:31 I got BINGO! Feb 20 17:12:53 bone-killer-killer: http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/02/20/phytec-india-unveils-open-board-am335x-development-kit Feb 20 17:13:53 1G ethernet? Feb 20 17:13:54 Russ: sounds like something out of the Zippy the Pinhead quote database. Feb 20 17:14:17 I feel like I am sharing a ``CORN-DOG'' with NIKITA KHRUSCHEV.. Feb 20 17:14:20 heh 'The company provides support for Linux 3.2.0' Feb 20 17:14:43 emeb, it was "internet of things" that got it for me Feb 20 17:15:17 wonder if its based on the 3.2 psp kernel Feb 20 17:15:24 isn't the 15 minutes up on "internet of things" yet? Feb 20 17:16:34 Russ: inst it the .32 PSP kernel? Feb 20 17:18:19 my flask is almost empty Feb 20 17:18:22 heh, 2.6.32, them be the classics Feb 20 17:18:34 we are doing the keynote drinking game, right? Feb 20 17:20:30 hi Feb 20 17:52:58 progress! Finally got the DT passed to the kernel. Feb 20 17:53:15 Now I get a kernel oops instead of a hang waiting on root fs Feb 20 17:53:15 :-) Feb 20 18:07:46 Did you use the xm DT? Feb 20 18:09:03 Russ|mobile: yes. Feb 20 18:09:43 Russ|mobile: oops is in omapdss... null pointer deref in dss_feat_get_num_ovls() Feb 20 18:09:51 You can always try pastebinning your boot log Feb 20 18:10:34 Russ|mobile: I'm putting in a printk() trace to see when the omapdss global var is supposed to be init'd, first. Feb 20 18:15:34 Looks like omapfb_probe() is getting called before omap_dss_probe(), and omapfb_probe() references the dss stuff. Feb 20 18:17:44 * gabrbedd tries to disable FB Feb 20 18:20:55 ...and that brings me back to "Waiting for root device /dev/mmcblk0p2..." Feb 20 18:21:42 http://pastebin.com/kA5zWmve Feb 20 18:28:16 check around line 240 or so in the bootlog Feb 20 18:29:08 looks like perhaps it's not set for kernel muxing? Feb 20 18:30:28 thurbad: you talking about this: Feb 20 18:30:31 [ 6.144104] omap_hsmmc mmc.20: unable to select pin group Feb 20 18:30:33 [ 6.150085] /ocp/mmc@4809c000: can't find DMA channel Feb 20 18:30:35 [ 6.155395] omap_hsmmc mmc.20: unable to obtain RX DMA engine channel 62 Feb 20 18:30:37 ? Feb 20 18:38:25 gabrbedd yeah, that's what I was looking at Feb 20 18:39:58 thurbad: well, I have pinmux enabled in the kernel. Not sure why devm_pinctrl_get_select_default() is failing, though. Feb 20 18:40:09 thurbad: but I think you're right... that seems like the root cause. Feb 20 18:40:31 gabrbedd: the led stuff hints at that too Feb 20 18:46:50 thurbad: Looks like pinctrl_get_select_default() calls pinctrl_get_select(dev, PINCTRL_STATE_DEFAULT);, which pinctrl_get(dev);... Feb 20 18:47:09 which eventually calls find_pinctrl(dev)... Feb 20 18:47:35 That searches a linked list for a pinctrl_list that matches the device. Feb 20 18:47:43 Where does this list come from... the board file? Feb 20 19:08:00 Is the up-to-date device tree file in the kernel? Looking in omap3-beagle-xm.dts, I don't see any pinctrl-* stuff. Feb 20 19:12:53 \ Feb 20 19:13:00 / Feb 20 19:13:26 - Feb 20 19:14:02 | Feb 20 19:15:04 U Feb 20 19:15:34 <_av500_> Å¿ Feb 20 19:31:50 Russ: you said that you got xm booting with 3.8+dt -- but all signs are pointing to the dtb missing pinmux info for me here. Any idea where the disconnect is? Feb 20 19:32:46 E.g. see this omap4-panda patch where i've got the same error messages..... http://us.generation-nt.com/patch-3-5-arm-dts-omap4-panda-add-i2c-pinctrl-data-help-210420292.html Feb 20 19:41:30 it may be that once you get the one of problem related to twl audio, that device tree processing stops Feb 20 19:55:10 howdy Feb 20 19:55:30 hmm Feb 20 19:58:04 <_av500_> mranostay: got punk'd? Feb 20 19:58:38 ran through the slides a little fast.. but i survived Feb 20 19:58:58 * mranostay read the schmatics for the board that doesn't not exist Feb 20 19:58:58 <_av500_> KotH: https://yaler.net/ Feb 20 19:59:40 <_av500_> mranostay: bbb? Feb 20 20:00:36 bbb? Feb 20 20:00:42 oh right Feb 20 20:00:43 yes Feb 20 20:06:18 mranostay: how's the other board that doesn't exist Feb 20 20:06:19 ? Feb 20 20:09:14 _av500_, nice Feb 20 20:14:51 mmm ddr3 hmm nand hmmm Feb 20 20:15:54 <_av500_> emmc Feb 20 20:16:04 bah whatever Feb 20 20:16:49 oh please no http://img.pr0gramm.com/2013/02/b17pry2.jpg Feb 20 20:17:20 image loads so slow from here it's like a punchline Feb 20 20:17:21 <_av500_> wonder where that comes from... Feb 20 20:17:37 someone just spotted my trollpost? Feb 20 20:17:42 yep Feb 20 20:17:52 where is purple at? :) Feb 20 20:20:38 dm8tbr, yup Feb 20 20:20:50 all I have are 'not for classified use' stickers Feb 20 20:22:33 imagine my surprise to find purple's stickers featured on a popular 'funny images' page... Feb 20 20:22:37 would someone give me a quick heads up on angstrom-v2012.12? I'm about to rebuild from scratch for the BBxM and after pulling setup-scripts I see there is now a 2012.12 branch Feb 20 20:22:49 Google isn't telling me much Feb 20 20:23:59 trollllllllllllllllllllllllll Feb 20 20:24:08 ` Feb 20 20:24:33 spacecolonyone whats your question? Feb 20 20:26:17 I just did git fetch on setup-scripts there is now a 2012.12 branch. I'm on master (I can't remember why). I need to rebuild my custom angstrom image, but would first like to track down and include any helpful improvements that have been made in the ~12 months since i last built Feb 20 20:26:23 mru: *AHEM* Feb 20 20:26:33 oh no it books anymore from pearson Feb 20 20:26:45 My git-fu is weak, but I'm trying to wade through the logs to see what I've missed Feb 20 20:27:00 I should fas order the two java books Feb 20 20:27:24 spacecolonyone you should try harder with git and get familiar Feb 20 20:27:32 I'm working on it Feb 20 20:28:58 But this is also highly nested. setup-scripts branch sets layers.txt which points to commits on layer repos, which I then need to wade through as well. I can do it, but I'm asking in case someone off hand knows where the current "stable" build starting point is Feb 20 20:29:12 who let jkridner in? :) Feb 20 20:29:26 * mru did Feb 20 20:31:23 the main things I've got on my mind are: 1) did smart reflex ever get fixed and patches integrated, 2) has a newer (> 0.79) connman been brought in, and 3) what kernel version is default now (on master/2012.05 (I believe there it is 3.2.28, no?)/ 2012.12)? Feb 20 20:32:54 just build an image Feb 20 20:32:57 you will see Feb 20 20:36:38 on each branch and wait 5 hours for each? Come on. But honestly my biggest concern is ensuring that I be able to recover my current state. The easy way is to just start from scratch, but I'm low on disk space. Feb 20 20:37:13 and really, wolglinde, that suggestion was totally unhelpful :) Feb 20 20:42:07 spacecolonyone I do not know what you want to achieve Feb 20 21:05:06 woglinde, do you mean by my rebuilding or by my question? Feb 20 21:05:25 * gabrbedd steps back... Feb 20 21:06:04 Ok, this shouldn't be that hard.... but I keep banging my head against getting the xM to boot. Feb 20 21:06:29 What I would /like/ is to boot a 3.8 kernel on the xM with some minimal fs like buildroot. Feb 20 21:07:22 What I've been doing is using the rootfs that came with the xM and trying to boot a 3.8 kernel. Feb 20 21:07:38 Would someone please prod me in the right direction? :-) Feb 20 21:08:46 I've been building the kernel using git://github.com/beagleboard/kernel.git (using the "3.8" branch) Feb 20 21:08:56 and? Feb 20 21:09:16 But it doesn't even build cleanly without having to patch include/linux/usb/musb.h Feb 20 21:10:04 and? Feb 20 21:10:05 And even after that, I'm running in to http://pastebin.com/kA5zWmve Feb 20 21:10:46 lol Feb 20 21:10:51 3 years old gcc Feb 20 21:10:57 :-) Feb 20 21:11:14 What do you mean by 3 years old gcc? That my compiler is too old? Feb 20 21:12:04 omap_hsmmc mmc.20: unable to select pin group Feb 20 21:12:10 so no sdcard support Feb 20 21:12:17 no Feb 20 21:12:27 gcc 4.4.1 should work Feb 20 21:12:45 but problems with pinmux and devicetree as far as I see Feb 20 21:12:49 for mmc Feb 20 21:13:39 trolls trolls Feb 20 21:15:28 woglinde: I'm using arch/arm/boot/dts/omap3-beagle-xm.dtb from the kernel build Feb 20 21:15:37 woglinde: Not sure what else to try. :-) Feb 20 21:15:44 me neither Feb 20 21:15:54 all other are busy at elc Feb 20 21:15:58 with trolling Feb 20 21:16:00 Did I mention I have to disable FB in order to boot? :-) Feb 20 21:16:15 woglinde: thanks :-) Feb 20 21:16:36 * gabrbedd will try 3.7. Why not/ Feb 20 21:24:14 Same results with 3.7 Feb 20 21:24:33 What do you guys usually use for load addresses for the uImage and dtb ? Feb 20 21:28:19 trolls trollingly trolling Feb 20 21:29:33 looks like mranostay is drunken Feb 20 21:31:01 early in the day for that Feb 20 21:31:06 or not... Feb 20 21:33:19 jo prpplague Feb 20 21:43:26 woglinde: what do you know about the angstrom-v2012.05-yocto1.2 branch of setup scripts? Feb 20 21:43:49 nothing I am using master Feb 20 21:43:54 ok Feb 20 21:44:03 same here Feb 20 21:49:30 woglinde: greetings Feb 20 21:54:47 so cold Feb 20 21:55:16 cold? Feb 20 21:55:32 this conference room Feb 20 21:55:49 i swear they have the air on Feb 20 21:58:26 <_av500_> somebody set you up the air Feb 20 22:01:20 i ii or iii? Feb 20 22:02:20 ii Feb 20 22:02:34 only room i've been in so far Feb 20 22:03:09 i hear rostedt through the wall again :) Feb 20 22:06:17 oh uh the speaker is talking about balls...bga... Feb 20 22:06:20 :) Feb 20 22:27:07 linus kills my bitbang dreams Feb 20 22:28:39 av500, you got the linkedin 5% email? Feb 20 22:28:52 Russ: i think everyone here did Feb 20 22:29:05 not me, but I did get one from the marrow registery Feb 20 22:29:24 'Your HLA type, determined from the cheek swab or blood sample you provided when you joined the registry, is considered uncommon—yet extremely valuable' Feb 20 22:30:36 Russ: donating marrow? Feb 20 22:30:52 no, I'm just on the registry Feb 20 22:31:00 <_av500_> Russ: yeah Feb 20 22:31:11 but now I know to ask for more money if that chance comes around Feb 20 22:31:14 Russ: on purpose? Feb 20 22:31:19 on purpose Feb 20 22:31:42 Maybe I should email them back and ask, 'just how valuable we talkin?' Feb 20 22:31:52 heh Feb 20 22:32:27 hehehe Feb 20 22:32:35 can that be cloned? Feb 20 22:32:50 Russ: are you lost a bit? Feb 20 22:32:56 ds2: well, marrow clones itself, once implanted Feb 20 22:33:18 nope, I'm pretty familiar with gpio and pinctrl Feb 20 22:33:33 ds2: afaik Feb 20 22:33:38 missed the definition of a gpio hog though Feb 20 22:34:00 ah, I see now Feb 20 22:34:24 Russ: yeah i assume it is the same as the pinmux hogs Feb 20 22:34:37 <_av500_> like a GND hog? Feb 20 22:34:38 this slide is scarey Feb 20 22:34:46 <_av500_> whta talk is that? Feb 20 22:34:57 gpio and pinctrl Feb 20 22:35:01 gpio + pinctrl Feb 20 22:35:02 <_av500_> exiting Feb 20 22:35:15 <_av500_> is 2013 the year of gpio and pinctrl? Feb 20 22:35:26 <_av500_> finally Feb 20 22:37:09 dunno, but the dt interface to pinctrl-single is a real pain Feb 20 22:37:27 _av500_: 2013 is the year of bitbanging on the desktop Feb 20 22:38:03 emeb: oh baby don't tease me like that :P Feb 20 22:38:26 :) Feb 20 22:38:43 <_av500_> please do not bang any bits on the desktop Feb 20 22:38:52 <_av500_> do that embedded Feb 20 22:38:56 its ok, I'll do it in an SMI Feb 20 22:38:58 you'll never know Feb 20 22:39:03 please pull curtains before banging bits Feb 20 22:39:23 <_av500_> in SF, one can bang in the open Feb 20 22:39:40 only in some parts Feb 20 22:39:52 I first read that as 'only in some ports' Feb 20 22:40:11 <_av500_> sir, how can I port bitbanging? Feb 20 22:40:20 to yocto? Feb 20 22:40:32 <_av500_> what exactly is yocto? Feb 20 22:40:52 I think koen said distribution Feb 20 22:41:35 so yocto is wire? Feb 20 22:42:12 right Feb 20 22:42:55 <_av500_> koen- says its an umbrella Feb 20 22:43:05 with holes? Feb 20 22:43:34 <_av500_> ...5. Think about SoC pin muxing and avoid multiplexing.... Feb 20 22:43:42 <_av500_> how boring Feb 20 22:43:47 angstrom sized holes? Feb 20 22:46:16 for filtering out viruses. It's a feature. Feb 20 22:53:00 <_av500_> ...Ground-up reimplementation of GNU make... Feb 20 22:53:58 how fine a grind did they use? Feb 20 23:03:19 where are the trolls in? Feb 20 23:04:19 who let the trolls out. who. who. Feb 20 23:09:47 one hit wonder Feb 20 23:17:42 Bletch. So the mmc card is failing (i'm pretty sure) because the dma channel info is missing from the device tree. Feb 20 23:17:58 <_av500_> fell off the tree? Feb 20 23:18:03 I think the pinmux stuff is probably benign because it's been set by xloader. Feb 20 23:18:17 _av500_: It's there for the -bone, but not for the -board Feb 20 23:19:03 I'm starting to believe that the beagleboard is bitrotting. Feb 20 23:19:08 emeb, so I'm getting photo reports of snow in south scottsdale Feb 20 23:19:26 <_av500_> gabrbedd: the stock angstrom stuff should still work Feb 20 23:19:53 <_av500_> if not, blame koen- Feb 20 23:19:58 aye Feb 20 23:20:02 Russ: Yep - heard from the in-laws up there that they were getting some. Feb 20 23:20:10 http://imgur.com/EAjyjEm.jpg Feb 20 23:20:31 OK - that's more than I was expecting. Feb 20 23:20:32 <_av500_> somebody spray painted the lawn Feb 20 23:20:38 if I'm not around, blame Crofton Feb 20 23:20:47 _av500_: the angstrom stuff that came with the board does indeed work and it's a 2.6.?? kernel. Feb 20 23:20:54 <_av500_> no Feb 20 23:21:01 <_av500_> there are newer images for sure Feb 20 23:21:02 heh Feb 20 23:21:11 I heard good things aout koen's talk Feb 20 23:21:13 * gabrbedd looks Feb 20 23:21:41 http://i.imgur.com/0vWhYWC.jpg Feb 20 23:22:05 * XorA likes that he gets no blame these days Feb 20 23:22:34 * gabrbedd blames XorA Feb 20 23:23:09 Crofton: mru was doing a fine job trolling koen's talk Feb 20 23:23:51 emeb: sitting next to Russ, he showed me the south scottsdale snow pics..wow! Feb 20 23:24:08 mdp: the end is nigh! Feb 20 23:24:17 <_av500_> how is it in north scottdale? Feb 20 23:24:24 mdp: nothing like that down here in Mesa tho. Feb 20 23:24:25 * XorA has not tried a DT kernel on beagleboard Feb 20 23:24:53 Maybe more, it's at a higher elevation Feb 20 23:25:05 mdp: Looks like central PHX got some too: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_phoenix_metro/central_phoenix/snow-in-phoenix-graupel-falls-in-valley-during-february-storm Feb 20 23:25:06 or bone for that matter Feb 20 23:25:18 North is always uphill Feb 20 23:25:27 <_av500_> its higher up on the wall Feb 20 23:25:36 Winter is coming! Feb 20 23:25:40 <_av500_> +1 Feb 20 23:25:47 muahaha..they don't have snow brushes in their cars! Feb 20 23:25:49 everyone out of the way! Feb 20 23:25:53 trolled by snow Feb 20 23:26:19 _av500_: where do they put recent validation images. I've run in to about 3 out-of-date sites so far. Feb 20 23:26:19 ? Feb 20 23:26:21 <_av500_> snow pa-troll Feb 20 23:26:34 <_av500_> koen-: ^^^ Feb 20 23:27:17 http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ ? Feb 20 23:27:33 _av500_: koen-: ^^^ ? Feb 20 23:27:49 I would guess on angstrom-distribution.org Feb 20 23:27:49 you know Feb 20 23:27:50 the homepage of angstrom Feb 20 23:27:51 tell me if I'm saying something outrageous Feb 20 23:30:46 koen-: Sorry, can't help if I overlooked it between gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation and all the out-of-date beagleboard wiki's titled "This is the Angstrom validation image" Feb 20 23:33:07 gabrbedd: wikis are the worst form of communication on internet :-( Feb 20 23:33:33 how dare you :p Feb 20 23:33:56 * mranostay covers wmat's ears Feb 20 23:43:19 hi davest Feb 20 23:45:29 there's an infinite number of wiki and blog entries on how to do stuff..only 1 of them is correct at a given moment in time. Feb 20 23:46:36 good nite Feb 20 23:48:28 mranostay: howdy! Feb 21 00:09:49 * Russ notices eagleboard listed on animalboard Feb 21 00:13:50 heh Feb 21 00:15:02 they need to list pandaborad also Feb 21 00:29:13 Russ: oops! Feb 21 00:32:27 ? Feb 21 00:33:36 * Russ finally notices the '[RFC/NOT FOR MERGING 2/3] serial: omap: remove hwmod dependency' thread Feb 21 00:34:31 where are the trolls trollingly trolling now? Feb 21 00:35:11 Russ: omap5 board was never released, and it was not going to be called "eagle" (although that name was considered) Feb 21 00:35:13 I don't know about you guys, but I'll be checking our 'Your New ARM SoC Linux Support Checklist!!!1!1eleven' Feb 21 00:35:49 gabrbedd, I'm thinking the whole eagleboard thing was just an elaborate hoax :p Feb 21 00:36:28 Russ: mdp: graupel falling here in Mesa now too. Time to git right with god. Feb 21 00:38:05 Russ: kind of like omap5 :-p Feb 21 00:38:16 mdp: joel_: denix: ok i think you guys need to convince the channel which of your talks is the best to attend :P Feb 21 00:38:40 mru: or should split and troll one talk each? Feb 21 00:40:58 Russ|mobile: !! Feb 21 00:41:38 Conference WiFi Feb 21 00:59:03 hobbbbbiiiit. Feb 21 01:12:00 mranostay, if I were choosing a talk, I would go to Joel's Feb 21 01:12:19 it's been proposed that maybe I can set the BoF in motion and just leave and go watch Joel Feb 21 01:12:32 s/Joel/joel_/ Feb 21 01:13:22 emeb: :) Feb 21 01:44:30 * mru just heard tizen mentioned **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Feb 21 02:59:59 2013