**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 21 02:59:59 2013 Feb 21 03:37:19 whats up Feb 21 03:42:02 ugh.. been in deadlock hell for a couple of days.. think I finally dug out Feb 21 05:14:11 trolls Feb 21 05:33:51 hi Feb 21 07:18:29 hi there Feb 21 07:18:45 ho there Feb 21 07:19:03 beer!!!! Feb 21 07:35:26 skal. Feb 21 07:39:19 yo there Feb 21 07:57:57 hmm, still struggling with UART2 RTSn/CTSn. I've enabled stty -F /dev/ttyO2 crtscts and now I see that it waits until CTSn signal is 0. However I RTSn doesn't work :/ Feb 21 08:36:56 minnow all the tings! Feb 21 08:37:20 mirror all the tarballs Feb 21 08:37:28 announced yet? Feb 21 08:39:33 whats wrong with the world, why are they all hyping some atom thing? Feb 21 08:40:13 morning Feb 21 08:40:45 until Mr Higgs is found the world is still built on atoms :-D Feb 21 08:44:38 XorA: Higgs? CSO of Intel? Feb 21 08:45:09 * dm8tbr throws a large hadron at LetoThe2nd Feb 21 08:45:21 * LetoThe2nd collides Feb 21 08:45:35 * XorA watches the blackhole consume the universe Feb 21 08:45:41 mru: ^^^^ 26+26 :) Feb 21 08:47:05 everything-killer: http://www.minnowboard.org/ Feb 21 08:48:26 ah it went public Feb 21 08:48:51 indeed Feb 21 08:49:05 dont you have Linus' minder in your g+? Feb 21 08:49:19 hum? Feb 21 08:49:59 the guy that carts him around the world and puts him either on a stage or in a diving suit Feb 21 08:50:18 um, no? Feb 21 08:51:48 dm8tbr: Dirk Hohndel Feb 21 08:51:59 yeah, found him on g+ by now Feb 21 08:52:42 so this is essentially a low cost FRI2? Feb 21 08:52:59 Hi , Am trying to get the ADC working on the Beaglebone with the 3.2.0 kernel picked up from TIPSP05.06.00.0 Feb 21 08:53:27 have followed the steps mentioned here http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/AM335x_ADC_Driver%27s_Guide Feb 21 08:54:08 but when i check the list of devices here ls -al /sys/bus/iio/devices Feb 21 08:54:14 nothing is lised out Feb 21 08:54:24 Am i missing anything? Feb 21 09:06:22 dm8tbr: its an ATOM beagle Feb 21 09:06:35 dm8tbr: afaik, cco is making it Feb 21 09:08:57 dm8tbr: Linus' minder did not get the fish reference, being a diver and such.... Feb 21 09:09:00 with icky powervr gpu Feb 21 09:09:22 av500: it looks exactly like http://uk.kontron.com/products/systems+and+platforms/m2m/m2m+smart+services+developer+kit.html from the chipset side of things Feb 21 09:09:24 ... like the beagles ;) Feb 21 09:12:43 this board has SATA exposed though, which is nice, but not a must Feb 21 09:12:55 dm8tbr: it is a must for KotH Feb 21 09:12:57 total exposure! Feb 21 09:13:19 dm8tbr: you are totally off, one is E620, the other E640 :) Feb 21 09:13:59 dm8tbr: fun fact, when we did the A9, it was done by our HW team with 0 SW involvement Feb 21 09:14:00 * dm8tbr throws away his FRI2 then Feb 21 09:14:15 the intel docs were so good that you basically follow them and get a working x86 desing Feb 21 09:14:20 * dm8tbr demands a minnowboard instead Feb 21 09:14:34 oh _that_ A9 Feb 21 09:14:40 yes Feb 21 09:14:56 A9 münchen nürnberg? Feb 21 09:15:00 yes Feb 21 09:15:04 just that then Microsoft went and ruined the party with Vista... Feb 21 09:15:17 win7 I think Feb 21 09:15:29 or maybe it was vista Feb 21 09:15:38 I know people were installing XP and happy Feb 21 09:15:43 yes Feb 21 09:15:55 vista took 1GHZ out of the 1.2GHz available Feb 21 09:16:59 only going to atom with HT made it usable Feb 21 09:17:22 hmm, spec pdf mentions pci express, but I don't see anything. is it on the Lure connector? Feb 21 09:17:58 yes Feb 21 09:18:01 http://www.minnowboard.org/?page_id=8 Feb 21 09:18:37 it has no HDMI :( Feb 21 09:18:47 it's got DVI Feb 21 09:19:03 yes Feb 21 09:19:10 not good for media player box Feb 21 09:19:16 analog audio only Feb 21 09:19:23 ah Feb 21 09:19:23 no ac3 passthru on hdmi Feb 21 09:19:47 but then the $28 A10 desings dont to AC3 either Feb 21 09:19:53 but at least they have hdmi Feb 21 09:20:53 hmm, no sata per se Feb 21 09:20:56 only per lure Feb 21 09:21:21 I see a SATA connector on the bottom side of the board Feb 21 09:21:29 actually it's the top... Feb 21 09:21:34 CPU is on the bottom Feb 21 09:22:35 hmm Feb 21 09:22:55 J7 Feb 21 09:23:21 ah ok Feb 21 09:23:29 block diagram does not show it Feb 21 09:23:44 hmm, there is HD audio there Feb 21 09:30:42 Him Feb 21 09:30:46 I've included the ADC driver support and built the kernel under TI PSP relase 05.06.00.00 as per the following Wiki page : http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/AM335x_ADC_Driver%27s_Guide ; When the BeagleBone is booted with this kernel, Am not able to list out the IIO device.Below is the snapshot on the serial console: root@beaglebone:/sys/bus/iio/devices# ls -al total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 2000 . drwxr-xr-x 4 root Feb 21 09:36:03 TI PSP relase 05.06.00.00 is supported by TI Feb 21 09:38:44 yeah Am using the same kernel Feb 21 09:39:39 but not able to list out the devices under "/sys/bus/iio/devices" Feb 21 09:41:14 When's the Beaglebone black coming out? Feb 21 09:41:55 soon Feb 21 09:42:05 Is there a detailed spec sheet for it available yet? Feb 21 09:45:09 Gothbone! Feb 21 09:47:59 Ahhaah. Found it :D Feb 21 09:52:04 grrrh.! Feb 21 09:52:14 bind is a dog. Feb 21 09:52:32 yup Feb 21 10:03:25 it resolves names ok Feb 21 10:03:36 but i cna't get it to resolve a local host Feb 21 10:03:43 sorry local zone file Feb 21 10:04:43 let me guess, you forgot to update the serial number and reload the zone? Feb 21 10:05:37 KotH: Feb 21 10:05:39 nup Feb 21 10:06:16 but i got one for you Feb 21 10:06:21 since you are swiss Feb 21 10:06:30 Swiss cheese has holes Feb 21 10:06:41 some do, yes Feb 21 10:07:11 the MORE holes you have, the LESS chesse you have Feb 21 10:07:12 the MORE cheese you have, the MORE holes you have Feb 21 10:07:12 Thus, the MORE cheese you have, the LESS cheese you have Feb 21 10:07:43 * KotH pats mrpackethead on his head Feb 21 10:07:58 here, have a nickel and buy yourself some real cheese Feb 21 10:08:08 nickels no good here Feb 21 10:08:17 dont' wnat that funny greenback coinage Feb 21 10:08:25 its almost as useful as bitcoin Feb 21 10:08:39 you dont read enough dilbert Feb 21 10:08:42 bitcoin you can use to buy drugs Feb 21 10:08:48 very useful Feb 21 10:08:53 av500: now Im interested :-D Feb 21 10:09:22 http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1995-06-24/ Feb 21 10:14:14 trying to run a network without a dns server is hard Feb 21 10:14:16 :-( Feb 21 10:14:27 there is always /etc/hosts Feb 21 10:14:41 dont you have all the needed computers in there? Feb 21 10:14:55 there is Feb 21 10:15:05 but then you need to copy it to all your machines Feb 21 10:15:12 it does'nt scale Feb 21 10:15:38 what's your prob in setting up a dns server? Feb 21 10:15:45 i'm not sure Feb 21 10:15:48 thats the bizzare bit Feb 21 10:15:52 o_0 Feb 21 10:15:53 i've done this several times before Feb 21 10:16:05 my configuraiton no doubt is not quite riht Feb 21 10:16:06 are you using some weird distro that doesnt have a useable default config? Feb 21 10:16:29 its resolving names happily from ---> out there Feb 21 10:16:40 its the local zone files its ignoring Feb 21 10:17:22 What's the recommended kernel for the beaglebone these days? is 3.8 in a fairly fit state? Feb 21 10:17:29 did you enable any of the security features (like split view, disalow recursion, acls,...)? Feb 21 10:17:44 no. Feb 21 10:17:55 have you checked the acls? Feb 21 10:18:05 what do the logs say? Feb 21 10:18:08 what does dig say? Feb 21 10:18:34 digs saying its failing Feb 21 10:18:55 ;; global options: +cmd Feb 21 10:18:56 ;; Got answer: Feb 21 10:18:56 ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 42762 Feb 21 10:18:57 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 Feb 21 10:19:56 logs? Feb 21 10:22:18 not turned on by default Feb 21 10:22:20 grr. Feb 21 10:22:40 what weird distro are you using? Feb 21 10:22:51 debian squeeze Feb 21 10:22:54 that werid one Feb 21 10:23:00 eh.. Feb 21 10:23:05 logs are turned on by default Feb 21 10:23:24 and this reaction begs the question: why didnt you check the logs before? Feb 21 10:23:48 becase i was looking for more cheese but only found holes Feb 21 10:25:17 gah. Feb 21 10:25:21 will try something new Feb 21 10:30:57 tommorrow Feb 21 10:33:15 exosyst: I use 3.8 without issues, from the beagleboard github page (aka 3.8 + patches) Feb 21 10:33:35 :q Feb 21 10:34:05 No issues with USB? Feb 21 10:34:22 exosyst: I don't use USB Feb 21 10:34:34 so I can't comment Feb 21 10:34:47 jackmitchell, Ah, that's the thing. We use USB rocket launchers for our courses and I don't want to chance it breaking :( Feb 21 10:34:56 jackmitchell, Have you done any testing? Feb 21 10:35:11 well, I use it for developing our commerical software Feb 21 10:35:54 it seems ok, no major issues so far Feb 21 10:36:35 OK cheers i'll give it a go. Feb 21 10:38:06 Did you grab the u-boot tree from somewhere too? I'm guessing going this route I'm better off keeping Yocto for generating my packages/rootFS and then keeping the kernel/uboot in sync from Beaglebone.org Feb 21 10:38:15 jackmitchell, , ^ Feb 21 10:38:33 exosyst: I just use u-boot master and rebuild every so often Feb 21 10:38:55 jackmitchell, No bone/TI patches? Feb 21 10:39:12 exosyst: the above is what I do at the moment, then when meta-beagleboard is ready I will move over to that Feb 21 10:39:29 exosyst: I don't believe you need any for the latest u-boot Feb 21 10:39:53 "Still, the Tizen 2.0 release offers a detailed changelog (as an ODS spreadsheet file)" <- heh Feb 21 10:40:00 jackmitchell, Oh ok, just make am335x_config && make for u-boot master then? Feb 21 10:40:48 exosyst: I'm not sure, I haven't built it for a while; if you struggle I can send my binary over Feb 21 10:41:28 I'll see how I get on... I think I have backups :D Feb 21 10:46:54 I wish that patch.sh did a shallow checkout of the kernel... yeesh! Feb 21 10:47:19 yeah; it's a big one Feb 21 10:55:06 especially at a blistering 142KiB/s Feb 21 11:21:48 exosyst: be glad you aren't on dial up with a 14.4 modem :) Feb 21 11:29:51 ciao! Feb 21 11:29:58 !list Feb 21 11:29:58 zenzi1982: Admin, Bugzilla, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Karma, MeetBot, Misc, MoobotFactoids, Owner, Quote, QuoteGrabs, RSS, Seen, and User Feb 21 11:30:37 lol Feb 21 11:30:48 someone mistook freenode for rizon Feb 21 11:42:01 crap - i forgot to build my meta-toolchain Feb 21 11:42:11 this could take me a while Feb 21 12:42:31 jackmitchell, Saw your email on the list - I had to add BBMASK ?= ".*/meta-ti/recipes-(misc|bsp/formfactor)/" to make things work Feb 21 12:56:58 exosyst: yes, they used to have it in the README but I don't know where it's gotten to Feb 21 12:57:15 omg-there-is-almost-nothing-left-to-kill-killer: http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/02/21/wandboard-dual-unboxing-and-quick-start-guide Feb 21 12:58:24 av500: the wandboard is an exciting piece of kit Feb 21 13:00:10 gm av500 Feb 21 13:00:20 I have somewhat become insensitive to pieces of kit Feb 21 13:01:12 av500: do you write the cnx blog or just frequent it? Feb 21 13:06:01 I follow the RSS feed Feb 21 13:09:34 nice touch with a sata connector on a duallite board :P Feb 21 13:21:05 av500: and it even has SATA! ;) Feb 21 13:21:12 !!!!!!11!!!! Feb 21 13:22:38 KotH: .. connector :P Feb 21 13:26:25 Jacmet: so what? i can still plug a HD in... sure it wont work, but who cares? ;) Feb 21 13:29:15 KotH: yes, like SATA powered coffee warmer Feb 21 13:29:41 av500: i'm sure they already exist somewhere in china Feb 21 13:30:10 KotH: just google for it Feb 21 13:30:22 some bot in china will setup a product page for it in seconds Feb 21 13:30:40 I think a lot of stuff from there is due to mistyped google searches Feb 21 13:34:39 i just typed it into alibaba Feb 21 13:34:46 lets see how long it takes them to start shipping Feb 21 13:39:06 :) Feb 21 13:39:17 maybe you need to add more features Feb 21 13:39:23 like FM radio Feb 21 13:39:58 FM ? pfft use AM ... gets way more stations Feb 21 13:46:34 ogra_: not in any developed country Feb 21 13:46:54 like switzerland ? Feb 21 13:47:03 thats your excuse for the mountains, eh ? Feb 21 13:49:09 a landscape is like a girl: it's nicer if she has curves :) Feb 21 13:49:24 but not jagged ridges Feb 21 13:50:35 av500: some like their girls on the skinny side ;) Feb 21 13:57:10 hrm, still people here Feb 21 13:57:23 I thought everybody would have left for #minnow by now Feb 21 14:06:24 mdp: we need to spread the word here Feb 21 14:11:49 then mass exodus! Feb 21 14:11:58 * mdp places beagle boards on ebay Feb 21 14:12:40 mdp: send it overhere Feb 21 14:18:34 what's in #minnow? Feb 21 14:18:53 the other channel Feb 21 14:22:01 KotH: ;) Feb 21 14:22:42 pbbt Feb 21 14:24:39 mdp: could you please tell the other Ti that changing the clock core in the newer MSP430 was not a nice thing to do Feb 21 14:24:57 mdp: now i have to revwrite half of our msp430 framework ^^' Feb 21 14:30:05 mdp: hi Feb 21 14:31:20 mdp: spl more-or-less works on ti816x now Feb 21 14:32:08 Jacmet: ok, cool. I was on holiday until yesterday..so haven't been able to follow up on the u-boot patches. Feb 21 14:32:21 mdp: no problem, I was away last week as well Feb 21 14:32:35 Jacmet: with the usual conf stuff, it looks like I'll be away from serious work until monday Feb 21 14:33:18 Jacmet: I'm finding that there are others crawling out of the woodwork looking for upstream ti81xx support now..private mails..being accosted at elc Feb 21 14:34:28 mdp: Great. I've also been talking to people at Adeneo Feb 21 14:34:51 mdp: It would be good to align a bit Feb 21 14:35:21 I'm not sure how many of these people I've run into are wanting to contribute..but we'll see as they go. Feb 21 14:35:33 mdp: I could imagine other people also being interested in a way out from the evil 2.6.37 vendor tree ;) Feb 21 14:36:04 I try to make clear that my focus is on some specific ti8148 features..and I mentioned you were planning to do 816x work so they should watch the list traffic ;) Feb 21 14:36:28 mdp: ok, cool Feb 21 14:36:40 Jacmet: yeah…one guy quickly realized that he might be in trouble as he needs the syslink gunk Feb 21 14:37:20 you know, doesn't want to start a product on 2.6.37 now…but then, if you need all that working stack stuff TI produces... Feb 21 14:39:08 mdp: yeah, tell me about it. Seems like I won't be needing any of the hdvicp2/dsp stuff before the end of the year, so hopefully things looks better by then Feb 21 14:39:14 (always the optimist) Feb 21 14:40:27 the ne/ce work in a nuclear silo is all I know Feb 21 14:40:37 the rest of us seem to be on our own Feb 21 14:40:48 s/work/people work/ Feb 21 14:41:08 I'm trying to build uboot master for the am335x_evm, anyone know why there's linker flag issues? Feb 21 14:41:15 mdp: I forwarded Kevin's mainline slides to our TI FAE ;) Feb 21 14:41:17 arm-poky-linux-gnueabi-ld.bfd: unrecognized option '-Wl,-O1' Feb 21 14:42:14 Jacmet: consider that Kevin's odyssey was purely in Sitara-land. Feb 21 14:42:33 Jacmet: that took a *long* calendar time to get done :( Feb 21 14:43:28 mdp: well, it's always a good opportunity to point out that we want mainline support Feb 21 14:43:57 jackmitchell, Did you build uboot with the poky toolchain? Feb 21 14:44:29 yep, one thing he doesn't cover is that we used documented customer losses/wins in Sitara too…showed them lost/gained revenue for parts without upstream and with. Feb 21 14:44:53 mdp: ahh, I didn't know that Feb 21 14:44:57 Jacmet: so customers have to hammer the supplier with the reqmts for anything to change Feb 21 14:45:27 Jacmet: some abstract "this is the right thing to do" has no hope of succeeding. Feb 21 14:45:31 mdp: which is what I'm trying to do. Not that I expect big impact, but you can always try Feb 21 14:45:42 every bit helps Feb 21 14:45:52 I'm afraid on those parts that most people don't care Feb 21 14:46:05 they get their vertical s/w drop and go Feb 21 14:46:49 mdp: huh? you've still a hard time getting that into markedroids heads? Feb 21 14:47:11 no no, different TI Feb 21 14:47:16 ah.. Feb 21 14:47:18 ok Feb 21 14:47:44 * KotH wonders how many TIs are out there Feb 21 14:48:07 "this is not the TI you are looking for" Feb 21 14:48:09 Legion, for we are many. Feb 21 14:48:35 What version of u-boot (with no patches) are we using? Feb 21 14:48:49 master doesn't build due to bad flags Feb 21 14:49:15 odd, it did last week Feb 21 14:49:37 exosyst: I believe it still does here. Did a few days ago atleast Feb 21 14:50:39 Jacmet, I can't get master to build using the poky toolchain - bad flags etc. I would prefer to not have to patch against older versions if there's a known working branch of upstream u-boot Feb 21 14:51:30 make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux- am335x_evm_config Feb 21 14:51:33 Configuring for am335x_evm - Board: am335x_evm, Options: SERIAL1,CONS_INDEX=1 Feb 21 14:51:39 make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux- -s -j4 Feb 21 14:51:47 Image Name: U-Boot 2013.01-00328-g47104c3 fo Feb 21 14:51:52 seems to work ok Feb 21 14:52:03 http://beagleboard.org/unzipped/ Feb 21 14:52:03 nice Feb 21 14:53:49 exosyst: not with a poky toolchain though Feb 21 14:54:11 http://pastebin.com/18NU607C Jacmet Feb 21 14:54:54 Jacmet, I wanted to keep the toolchain consistent with the Poky rootfs/kernel and u-boot but I managed to build the kernel just fine using it Feb 21 14:55:09 exosyst: sorry, don't know anything about poky Feb 21 14:55:19 Jacmet, I'm working with the 3.8 kernel and figured I better use the latest and greatest u-boot too Feb 21 14:56:12 * mdp successfully adds "hootenanny" into slides Feb 21 14:56:23 exosyst: yes, that might good Feb 21 14:57:20 Jacmet, it would be... if it worked. The fact there's missing files in the upstream v2013-01-01 doesn't bode well :( Feb 21 14:59:18 exosyst: what files? u-boot v2013.01 builds ok here Feb 21 14:59:25 Image Name: U-Boot 2013.01 for am335x board Feb 21 14:59:25 Created: Thu Feb 21 15:59:05 2013 Feb 21 15:00:53 Jacmet, yeah, but not with the poky toolchain - what happens if you run arm--linux-ld.bfd -Wl Feb 21 15:01:30 exosyst: I can confirm it's knackered with the oecore toolchain Feb 21 15:01:45 jackmitchell, Ah good - it's not just me :D Feb 21 15:01:59 jackmitchell, wait.. no that thing that's the opposite of good. Dammit! Feb 21 15:02:30 exosyst: the ldflags set in the environment file are weird Feb 21 15:04:44 jackmitchell, Yeah, it sets flags for $(LD) that the bfd version doesn't understand... Feb 21 15:05:17 So that's a poky bug by my reckoning... who to poke who to poke... hmm Feb 21 15:05:28 oe-core mailing list, or yocto bugzilla Feb 21 15:05:46 exosyst: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/ Feb 21 15:06:53 the sdk is a little bit of a mess in my opinion, it's slowly improving though Feb 21 15:07:15 urgh - *another* bugzilla account. A single signon for bugzilla would be awesome Feb 21 15:07:40 I will pay £200 to whoever implements it (I want gnome, redhat and Yocto compat!) Feb 21 15:07:57 it does LDAP already Feb 21 15:08:18 and I've seen installations that used SSO Feb 21 15:08:48 exosyst: facebook login? Feb 21 15:08:52 ;) Feb 21 15:09:07 dm8tbr that's good to know. And no, FB login would cause me to just abandon the OSS world I think. Feb 21 15:09:20 The defining Jumping the Shark moment Feb 21 15:11:05 so who would you trust with an account for all your open source bugzilla etc logins? Feb 21 15:11:42 OpenID? Feb 21 15:15:41 I like how TI has a specific Singlecore Processor Solutions Feb 21 15:15:57 s/Solutions/Communications Feb 21 15:21:11 yeah, openID would be fine Feb 21 15:21:23 I have no issues with that :D Feb 21 15:21:33 bug filed:: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3920 Feb 21 15:21:34 Bug 3920: was not found. Feb 21 15:22:15 Why must you lie DevBot? Feb 21 15:23:30 I don't think it is capable of lying, it just runs programmes. Feb 21 15:24:40 programs can lie Feb 21 15:25:29 or at least run into the wrong direction Feb 21 15:25:48 KotH, you have to prove Intent. Feb 21 15:27:33 the intent is visible in the comments Feb 21 15:27:33 morning Feb 21 15:27:43 hau di mranostay Feb 21 15:31:32 re Feb 21 15:38:29 KotH: how is in the land of chocolate and money laundering? Feb 21 15:40:21 quite good Feb 21 15:40:25 SOAB Error: unrecognized/unsupported machine ID (r1 = 0x00000e05). Feb 21 15:40:50 mranostay: got my monthly package of 10kg chocolate and another bar of gold Feb 21 15:40:51 I hate patchsets Feb 21 15:42:11 belgium? Feb 21 15:42:19 or switzerland? Feb 21 15:44:40 Is there any rhyme nor reason why the machine ID should be different for u-boot and TIs kernel? Feb 21 15:48:16 jacekowski: belgium doesnt have good chocolate... at least i have not yet found anything there i'd call good Feb 21 15:59:09 exosyst: the machine id depends on what hardware was built for Feb 21 15:59:23 you want them to match obviously Feb 21 15:59:39 if one doesn't match it's because it's not for your hardware Feb 21 16:00:04 thurbad, I'm surprised the kernel wants 0xffffffff for flattened device tree... that seems wrong (and would imply something wrong with the 3.8 beaglebone patchset) Feb 21 16:06:30 HE'S DONE IT Feb 21 16:06:32 booyah Feb 21 16:07:12 The wiki is wrong :( Feb 21 16:11:32 tell news Feb 21 16:11:46 a bag of rice fell down in china Feb 21 16:13:47 wikis are great when updated with accurate information... for about a couple of hours :/ Feb 21 16:15:37 yeah, that's the case. I opened an issue on the github instead. If it gets fixed, it helps everyone. If not, at least it'll appear in the googles Feb 21 16:17:21 You know what i LOVE?... when you reboot a beaglebone with an ext4 formatted partition and it gives you a nice sexy oops from the kernel Feb 21 16:17:47 [ 61.514082] (NULL device *): gadget not registered. Feb 21 16:17:47 [ 61.520497] Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 7665645 Feb 21 16:17:47 7 Feb 21 16:17:47 - no shit! Feb 21 16:23:29 heh Feb 21 16:24:27 how is that ext4 related? Feb 21 16:25:57 mranostay, It was the first bit of output... but actually... It's really not. Culprit is a call to dsps_musb_exit Feb 21 16:28:23 Which makes me think it's to do with the USB stack... possbily something broken in musb_dsps.c Feb 21 16:30:44 yup - pretty sure it's a bug when calling usb_put_phy on a device that's been cleared elsewhere. Feb 21 16:33:45 musb again Feb 21 16:33:48 lalalalaaala Feb 21 16:36:30 moose-bee? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_n71MiUoqS0U/TL7_mquC8WI/AAAAAAAACyc/bWNgit3aWlg/s320/Bumblebee+moose1.jpg Feb 21 16:37:47 that's beautiful emeb. Draw it yourself? :D Feb 21 16:37:58 And yea, musb... why, who can I moan to? Feb 21 16:38:55 the other other other ti Feb 21 16:38:57 hahahhahaa Feb 21 16:38:58 exosyst: har. this is the interweb - nothing original. Feb 21 16:44:47 oh dear - is musb a known place for issues? Feb 21 16:45:03 On the plus side, I prefer being able to open GitHub issues https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/issues/26 Feb 21 16:46:21 lol Feb 21 16:48:06 on the flip side - I'm chuffed I managed to get yocto/poky to make a rootfs and toolchain, then used that to get uboot and the kernel built (filing bugs as I go!) and then deployed it. Almost feels like it wasn't a wasted day Feb 21 16:53:22 use release branches maybee Feb 21 16:53:52 I thought that 3.8 was pretty much good to go - at least in as good a state as 3.2 Feb 21 16:54:20 I meant for poky Feb 21 16:54:24 and angstroem Feb 21 16:54:30 poky was done from danny Feb 21 16:54:35 ah okay Feb 21 16:54:45 still buggy :-/ Feb 21 17:15:06 Russ: Did you say that you had 3.8+dt booting with a beagleboard (not -bone) ? Feb 21 17:15:17 * gabrbedd has 3.2 booting and is now trying to get back to 3.8 Feb 21 17:15:36 koen: the angstrom stuff is really nice, btw. Thanks. :-) Feb 21 17:15:42 xm Feb 21 17:16:32 Russ: were you using git://github.com/beagleboard/kernel.git ? Feb 21 17:16:47 no, I was using mainline Feb 21 17:17:09 not to say that the branch koen keeps wouldn't be a better choice Feb 21 17:17:18 Russ: vanilla? no special patches? Feb 21 17:17:31 mru: skipping keynote? Feb 21 17:17:37 no Feb 21 17:18:32 no special patches Feb 21 17:18:56 Russ: did you use the omap2plus_defconfig ? Feb 21 17:19:08 yes Feb 21 17:19:13 (sorry for all the questions, I know you're at the conf) Feb 21 17:19:17 Russ: Thanks! Feb 21 17:20:01 Russ: oh yeah... what linux distro did you use? angstrom? Feb 21 17:20:48 Doesn't really matter if you aren't mounting the mmc, does it? Feb 21 17:21:30 Russ: but I do plan to mount the mmc. Feb 21 17:22:16 Russ: so... you had your root fs in the initrd? Feb 21 17:22:33 no, on the mmc Feb 21 17:37:06 Russ: thanks... that worked. :-) Feb 21 18:28:56 ]] Feb 21 18:36:20 ds2: [[ Feb 21 18:36:40 ][ Feb 21 18:38:02 <{[( Feb 21 18:39:09 fish Feb 21 18:39:32 )]}> Feb 21 18:40:09 >-=) Feb 21 18:41:20 lets play spot the balds in the front of the room Feb 21 18:41:44 * mru spots prpplague Feb 21 18:41:57 you in here? Feb 21 18:42:00 ⁅ Feb 21 18:42:17 I'm here, no idea if you are Feb 21 18:42:46 BoF? Feb 21 18:42:49 so, what's the word about the fishboard? Feb 21 18:42:51 ack Feb 21 18:43:03 dm8tbr: it's on animalboard.org Feb 21 18:43:11 :) Feb 21 18:43:37 and at ELC? Feb 21 18:44:04 there were some on display yesterday Feb 21 18:45:31 no giveaways or 'register here for one'? :) Feb 21 18:45:38 like with the FRI2 Feb 21 18:46:06 it's not in production yet Feb 21 18:46:26 FRI2 took 11 months to ship too ;) Feb 21 18:47:36 haven't done #$@#$ with it Feb 21 18:49:19 koen-: to remind you, http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/core/ipk/eglibc/ has no packages further down Feb 21 18:59:45 mranostay: I've started playing with the 802.15.4 part in it. still need to get the userspace bits and maybe update the kernel bits Feb 21 19:02:10 dm8tbr: only useful part of that imho Feb 21 19:03:21 doh. Feb 21 19:04:59 love how sched makes you interested in your own talk by default :) Feb 21 19:14:22 so, how good is the new beagle going to be Feb 21 19:14:24 lower cost Feb 21 19:14:28 higher memroy Feb 21 19:14:33 onboard eMMC Feb 21 19:14:56 * dm8tbr likes the DVI thing Feb 21 19:15:20 i just wished it had audio in as well as audio out Feb 21 19:15:45 it's HDMI Feb 21 19:15:47 so it has audio Feb 21 19:15:57 but he asked for input Feb 21 19:16:24 ddr3 and not ddr2 Feb 21 19:16:27 too bad :) Feb 21 19:16:34 yeah, and it's faster to boot Feb 21 19:16:46 * mranostay looks at the schmatic that doesn't exist Feb 21 19:17:33 panto: audio-over-HDMI? Feb 21 19:20:46 HDMI has both video and audio streams Feb 21 19:21:11 but is audio part of the HDMI spec? Feb 21 19:21:16 yes Feb 21 19:21:25 that's the point of hdmi Feb 21 19:21:35 otherwise it would just be dvi Feb 21 19:21:55 ah right Feb 21 19:22:32 audio is actually transmitted during the horizontal blanking interval Feb 21 19:23:04 nifty Feb 21 19:37:05 anyone seen jkridner today? Feb 21 19:37:15 besides jkridner of course Feb 21 19:39:44 YOCTO! Feb 21 19:39:47 hi davest Feb 21 19:42:15 lol Feb 21 19:46:53 re florian Feb 21 19:50:34 i hate bind Feb 21 19:50:38 or it hates me Feb 21 19:54:55 if i setup a zone on a local dns server for example " beaglefarm.mydomain.com", and point my local clients to that dns server to resolve Feb 21 19:56:05 will bind look to its local zones first, before trying to resolve them Feb 21 20:00:55 <_av500_> one bind to ring them Feb 21 20:04:05 thanks. Feb 21 20:04:12 its been a *long* time since i set up bind Feb 21 20:04:17 and i'm struggling to remember how it works Feb 21 20:10:26 Hi all, I have a beagle boad XM, I am interested to do some assembly programming and run on the board, soon after bootrom execution, please give me some directions Feb 21 20:17:34 mrpackethead yes frist localzones Feb 21 20:17:44 than asking the forwarders Feb 21 20:18:06 yeah, i thought so Feb 21 20:18:27 somethings wrong with my config Feb 21 20:19:47 gvk51: do you know arm assembly already? Feb 21 20:20:16 gvk51 why assembly you can programm in java Feb 21 20:20:21 heh Feb 21 20:21:47 I would suggest starting with the baremetal tutorials that exist for C first, then adapt them to assembly, rather than jumping in with both feet so if soemthing doesn't work you have a reference point Feb 21 20:21:52 @thurbad: Y a I have Feb 21 20:22:42 @woglinde: I wish to work on assembly or C Feb 21 20:23:34 thurbad: my intrest is the same, go with baremetal code Feb 21 20:24:49 give me in some suggestions, I have idea that soon after bootrom x-loader does the initialization, and then u-boot.... but I dont want to go with x-loader or u-boot Feb 21 20:25:00 head bang desk Feb 21 20:25:08 bind 2, mrpakcetheaad 0 Feb 21 20:27:25 gvk51 why not go with existing boot loaders? Feb 21 20:28:48 at least MLO (x-loader) Feb 21 21:23:45 <_av500_> pixel all the things! Feb 21 21:34:28 nope Feb 21 21:34:41 <_av500_> heretic! Feb 21 21:48:51 mru: er this talk is about what again? Feb 21 21:49:04 I had the same thought Feb 21 21:49:06 <_av500_> stuff Feb 21 21:49:11 <_av500_> which one? Feb 21 21:51:58 zzzzzzzzzz Feb 21 21:52:37 * _av500_ kicks mranostay Feb 21 21:52:42 <_av500_> what talk? Feb 21 21:52:46 hmmmmmm Feb 21 21:52:51 toybox Feb 21 21:53:23 which i think this the right room Feb 21 21:53:34 nfc Feb 21 21:54:09 <_av500_> landley? Feb 21 21:54:09 * panto kicks mranostay Feb 21 21:54:15 ack Feb 21 21:54:19 <_av500_> ic Feb 21 21:54:42 mru keeps kicking me Feb 21 21:54:55 <_av500_> mru: dont stop Feb 21 21:54:58 good Feb 21 21:55:24 no love here :/ Feb 21 21:58:10 ready to book? Feb 21 21:59:50 hehe Feb 21 22:00:57 so any news about toybox? Feb 21 22:01:10 <_av500_> woglinde: read his blog Feb 21 22:01:23 <_av500_> there is news every week Feb 21 22:01:26 av500 you did you can tell me Feb 21 22:01:36 <_av500_> he is working on it Feb 21 22:01:41 <_av500_> you can help Feb 21 22:01:55 <_av500_> i might, if it wasnt bzr Feb 21 22:02:04 <_av500_> there, convenient excuse found :) Feb 21 22:02:23 ah Feb 21 22:02:24 http://www.landley.net/talks/celf-2013.txt Feb 21 22:02:52 hehe you would work on it because of bsdish Feb 21 22:05:38 <_av500_> ? Feb 21 22:07:04 no? Feb 21 22:07:16 what would be the reason than? Feb 21 22:09:56 <_av500_> woglinde: no you are right Feb 21 22:10:24 I mean in its state now its far from really usefull Feb 21 22:10:41 <_av500_> patches welcome Feb 21 22:10:48 and I doubt he will finish it in 2 years Feb 21 22:11:28 av500 haha nono I am wasting my time with porting tegra gst modules to 1.0 Feb 21 22:11:45 but now I go to sleep Feb 21 22:11:47 <_av500_> gee, you are still on that t2? Feb 21 22:11:48 good nite Feb 21 22:12:02 sure ac100 is nice Feb 21 22:12:11 no need to buy a chromebook Feb 21 22:12:17 <_av500_> right Feb 21 22:12:28 jkridner is carrying his portable mustache app machine around ELC today. :-/ Feb 21 22:12:31 <_av500_> if you have time... Feb 21 22:12:52 av500 I could waste it to update meta-java too Feb 21 22:12:58 <_av500_> woglinde: I have 2 T2 tablets and browsing on them is horribly slow Feb 21 22:13:10 <_av500_> compared to omap4 or similar Feb 21 22:13:21 android? Feb 21 22:13:57 btw. I have the foilo too Feb 21 22:14:01 <_av500_> no, maemo Feb 21 22:14:05 good for angry birds Feb 21 22:14:05 <_av500_> of course android Feb 21 22:14:17 2.3? Feb 21 22:14:22 _av500_: i noticed that Linus can't use ARM devices with a bad cache model :) Feb 21 22:15:01 av500 another waste of time could be testing freedreno on my cellphone Feb 21 22:15:13 and get a200 running Feb 21 22:16:16 <_av500_> mdp: ah Feb 21 22:16:39 * _av500_ hugs AnyDVD Feb 21 22:16:43 * _av500_ might even buy it Feb 21 22:17:27 so now really off Feb 21 22:20:28 <_av500_> I hope Google opens a store soon so I can camp there for a week to get a 1.3k chromebook Feb 21 22:26:04 lol Feb 21 22:26:10 yeah, thats fun Feb 21 22:46:37 trolls trolls trolls Feb 21 22:53:22 <_av500_> epic thread is epic: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1445369/focus=1445405 Feb 21 22:54:41 _av500_: hehe Feb 21 22:56:55 linus is a a**hole, part #83434 Feb 21 22:56:57 hehe Feb 21 23:01:49 heh Feb 21 23:02:39 we don't have those contests in the Heartland...hrm Feb 21 23:05:32 just hate crime beard cutting Feb 21 23:06:14 +1 Feb 21 23:06:37 * mdp hatses neckbeardses Feb 21 23:07:17 panto, prpplague, https://github.com/russdill/mite Feb 21 23:07:26 drawing.png shows connector locations Feb 21 23:08:54 Russ: dandy! Feb 21 23:09:12 <_av500_> whats that? Feb 21 23:09:13 Russ, nice Feb 21 23:09:19 I think I got one from prpplague Feb 21 23:09:31 <_av500_> ah,readme Feb 21 23:10:07 prpplague: hrm....we forgot to showcase your hdmi board! Feb 21 23:10:22 mdp: yea i know we were running short on time Feb 21 23:10:30 mdp: i was just about to send you an email Feb 21 23:10:33 prpplague: really need 2 hours to dive into that stuff Feb 21 23:10:40 mdp: we need to do the Bof again but need 2 hours Feb 21 23:10:42 mdp: HA Feb 21 23:10:48 jinx! Feb 21 23:10:58 mdp: with an extra hour for some hands on tech demo Feb 21 23:11:02 mdp: ELCE? Feb 21 23:11:09 maybe ti will send me to sunny .uk for that :) Feb 21 23:11:13 jinx! Feb 21 23:11:26 hehe Feb 21 23:12:00 * prpplague goes over his slides Feb 21 23:12:24 could you imagine a group session with some stuff demoed? Feb 21 23:12:44 as a next-gen version of that bof? Feb 21 23:12:53 indeed Feb 21 23:13:11 line up 3-4 people for a demo of their pet tricks Feb 21 23:13:18 discuss! Feb 21 23:13:28 but I don't have a pet trick! Feb 21 23:13:41 I can't even eye-wink with my right eye Feb 21 23:13:47 some people are just here for their good looks Feb 21 23:14:01 can you wear a monocle? Feb 21 23:14:17 just barely Feb 21 23:14:41 mdp: i'd need some of your "street cred" to grab some big names... Feb 21 23:15:45 lol Feb 21 23:16:08 i've never been accused of having street cred..hehe Feb 21 23:16:41 can't be Feb 21 23:16:42 will you endorse me for that on linkedin? Feb 21 23:16:58 you mean you lied when you said that you were sitting at the back desks at class? Feb 21 23:17:03 prpplague: anyway, what do you meam? Feb 21 23:17:06 no tattoos? Feb 21 23:17:36 * kkeller all along I thought mdp had street crud Feb 21 23:17:51 prpplague: i'm thinking rostedt with a quick demo of ktest.pl...my project should be done by then to demo it Feb 21 23:18:21 mdp: yea rostedt and a few other would be great! Feb 21 23:18:23 you with hdmi analysis...etc Feb 21 23:18:35 yea Feb 21 23:18:46 he'll do it if we ask him Feb 21 23:18:46 mdp: i think it would be a great session based on the turnout today Feb 21 23:19:41 yes, i was 100% surprised...i was thinkimg it would be 5 of us and we could pack up and go watch FIT fireworks. Feb 21 23:20:28 mrpackethead 17, bind 16 Feb 21 23:20:29 i wind Feb 21 23:20:31 win Feb 21 23:20:33 finaly Feb 21 23:20:41 and now i know how it works. Feb 21 23:21:30 prpplague, btw, offering a session model a little like Plumbers would fit this well. dunno how flexible the progrsm committee is on elc formst though Feb 21 23:21:53 mdp: we have a procom meeting this evening Feb 21 23:22:58 wait jkridner is at elc, I totally missed him last night Feb 21 23:23:20 not sure i can get .eu conf approved this year though..but I'll try. Feb 21 23:24:02 calculus: he was out to some meetings Feb 21 23:24:23 mdp: well play it by ear but i'll discuss it with the procom Feb 21 23:24:34 he's out drawing mustaches Feb 21 23:24:51 prpplague: sounds good Feb 21 23:25:23 * prpplague packs up to go down to troll mru Feb 21 23:25:23 yeah, that mustache thing, I am trying to duplicate it but angstrom feeds are broken Feb 21 23:25:35 prpplague: bummer Feb 21 23:25:39 aha...mru time! Feb 22 00:00:58 * prpplague prepares to troll mru Feb 22 00:01:21 rmk, always a ray of sunshine Feb 22 00:01:26 'I'm not looking to add yet another crappy uboot image format to the kernel just for the hell of uboot.' Feb 22 00:03:26 what is with those weirdo a letters in mru's name? Feb 22 00:03:46 they have a weird circle above them Feb 22 00:04:33 å Feb 22 00:06:24 that is the one Feb 22 00:07:53 europe thingie Feb 22 00:12:13 weirdos Feb 22 00:21:04 mranostay: hehe Feb 22 00:21:27 multiple and surrender!!!!! Feb 22 00:21:28 he's got some really good tips/tricks Feb 22 00:33:09 prpplague: going to make use feel guilty tossing tomatoes Feb 22 00:33:31 *us Feb 22 00:41:46 * Russ reads the FIT thread, geez joel_ Feb 22 00:41:53 some people just want to watch the world burn Feb 22 00:42:12 (not joel_ of course) Feb 22 00:47:39 y0 Feb 22 00:51:53 vv0vv, 4r3 w3 1337? Feb 22 01:05:40 everyone trolling anders? Feb 22 01:05:47 you bet Feb 22 01:10:41 heh Feb 22 01:24:59 mranostay : I can offer some more: äöü Feb 22 01:25:05 mranostay : ø Feb 22 01:25:22 * mranostay hides Feb 22 01:26:06 CareBear\, careful, ?ml??ts are a protected species Feb 22 01:27:40 who will ask for exact steps first? Feb 22 02:39:59 mranostay : łœ€ßð Feb 22 02:40:05 note especially the € **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Feb 22 02:59:58 2013