**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 22 02:59:58 2013 Feb 22 05:53:25 And at that point it would also make sense to move any other "help folks Feb 22 05:53:27 get things going" tooling happens to exist out of the kernel. Feb 22 05:53:31 oops Feb 22 05:53:32 sorry Feb 22 06:02:42 ....DT installation must be outside of the distribution's responsibilities. It should be the OEM's responsibility, just like BIOS updates for PCs which don't come from Fedora/Debian/Ubuntu.... Feb 22 07:42:28 FRIDAY! Feb 22 07:42:34 er.. i mean JIHAD! Feb 22 07:42:52 av500: what are you reading again? :) Feb 22 07:43:49 KotH: friday! Feb 22 07:51:50 Koth, hows your cheese Feb 22 07:53:40 freezing :) Feb 22 07:54:43 KotH: a most interesting thread on lkml Feb 22 07:54:57 oh? what is ita bout Feb 22 07:55:03 DT Feb 22 07:55:10 and delusion Feb 22 07:55:12 Koth is the cheese troll from now on Feb 22 07:57:28 morning Feb 22 08:02:39 grüezi Feb 22 08:03:32 hi $&&$&&)s Feb 22 08:05:21 its the bridge troll Feb 22 08:16:23 morge woglinde Feb 22 08:16:38 mranostay: wassup? you sound a bit muffled? Feb 22 08:19:17 i got my bind sorted, and a redundant pair of dhcp servers running. Feb 22 08:19:44 and got ldap running as well Feb 22 08:20:32 what was the prob with bind? Feb 22 08:20:42 nothing Feb 22 08:20:47 my zone file was erronous Feb 22 08:21:01 lol Feb 22 08:21:05 good learning exercise Feb 22 08:22:42 Installed openldap Feb 22 08:22:50 and got user authetnication working between servers Feb 22 08:22:52 which is good Feb 22 08:23:04 but i need some kind of user-admin tool Feb 22 08:23:36 once i sort this on these servers, i'll hopefully install LDAP client stuff on some beagles Feb 22 08:26:32 what's your reason for using a user auth based on ldap instead of something simpler, like nis? Feb 22 08:28:36 nis is insecure Feb 22 08:28:50 only passwds with length 8 allowed Feb 22 08:28:55 max length Feb 22 08:30:25 woglinde: not anymore Feb 22 08:30:25 NIS restricts me to using *Nix systems Feb 22 08:30:31 woglinde: that was 10y ago.. or even more Feb 22 08:30:58 and LDAP is considerable more extensible than NIS Feb 22 08:31:05 mrpackethead: uhm.. you know that windows doesnt work with standard ldap? Feb 22 08:31:23 mrpackethead windows has nis support too Feb 22 08:31:40 and windows is certified as unix Feb 22 08:31:59 koth did you tested it? Feb 22 08:33:28 woglinde: it's known Feb 22 08:33:34 woglinde: AD is ldap + extensions Feb 22 08:33:47 woglinde: and ofc those extensions are not documented Feb 22 08:33:59 woglinde: that's why it took the samba team so fucking long to get it implemented Feb 22 08:34:20 and who cares about windows Feb 22 08:34:22 ? Feb 22 08:34:37 koth no I meant nis Feb 22 08:34:43 we ony have a few winbloze bthings anyway Feb 22 08:34:55 woglinde: i have it running at home, with passwords longer than 8 characters :) Feb 22 08:35:06 koth I played myself windows server stuff so I could use ssh + kerberos from windows system to linux server Feb 22 08:35:27 * woglinde wonders why koth needs NIS at home Feb 22 08:35:33 woglinde: hmm.. i've never touched kerberos.. always seemed too complicated for the job at hand Feb 22 08:35:56 koth uhm single sign on and than using ssh is really nice Feb 22 08:35:59 woglinde: for the same reason why i have a >10TB fileserver at home :) Feb 22 08:36:19 your home is porn cinema? Feb 22 08:36:28 juup Feb 22 08:36:32 makes good money Feb 22 08:36:33 is that allowed for muslims? Feb 22 08:36:33 10TB is nothing. Feb 22 08:36:36 I bet not Feb 22 08:37:04 i have a 10MB MFM drive on my shelf Feb 22 08:37:10 I can even get filled 250 gb at home Feb 22 08:37:15 ups can not Feb 22 08:37:33 any advance on a 10MB Drive Feb 22 08:38:13 woglinde: i'm a collector of data Feb 22 08:38:32 woglinde: filling a couple of TB is an easy busines.. even if you delete all the shit Feb 22 08:38:50 its full as soon as it exisis Feb 22 08:39:28 woglinde: and it didnt happen all at once. the fileserver grew over the last 14 years Feb 22 08:39:40 i have 3TB of email Feb 22 08:39:44 thats scary in itself Feb 22 08:39:54 i have it all dating back from 1989 Feb 22 08:40:17 mrpackethead uhm Feb 22 08:40:24 though only 2008 onwards is online. Feb 22 08:40:39 the previous stuff is archived Feb 22 08:41:13 mrpackethead: let me guess, most of the mails contain some word documents that contain pictures that are screenshots of the text? Feb 22 08:41:35 Not many word docs probably Feb 22 08:42:01 there will be 1000's of change control documetns though Feb 22 08:42:02 lol. Feb 22 08:42:05 and work permits Feb 22 08:42:14 i probalby shoud't have all this mail Feb 22 08:42:20 but i made sure i had copies of it Feb 22 08:42:28 as i left various jobs Feb 22 08:42:29 :-) Feb 22 08:44:44 KotH: dont' suppose you know of a good web based ( or other than text ) UI for LDAP Feb 22 08:44:54 adding users and mofiyng at the command line is a bit painful Feb 22 08:44:57 alothough it works Feb 22 08:46:46 mrpackethead: i'm an old school unixer, i dont use fancy gui or web frontends Feb 22 08:47:03 typically i am as well Feb 22 08:47:16 though there are some jobs that are just not so easy Feb 22 08:47:28 even more a reason not to use a frontend Feb 22 08:47:49 what? so jobs are made harder? Feb 22 08:47:52 that is a good reason? Feb 22 08:48:15 on unix there is a simple rule: if something is difficult, then it is difficult for a reason. hiding that difficulty asks for a desaster to happen Feb 22 08:48:27 thats a crap rule Feb 22 08:48:34 no, it's true Feb 22 08:48:43 its not an rule Feb 22 08:48:43 believe me, i had to learn that rule the hard way Feb 22 08:48:47 its opinion Feb 22 08:48:55 if its hard or difficult Feb 22 08:48:57 best fix it Feb 22 08:48:59 so its not Feb 22 08:49:05 so mistakes are less likely to happen. Feb 22 08:50:08 lets just agree to dissagree Feb 22 08:50:31 well.. maybe you'll learn it as well.. some day... Feb 22 08:50:42 UI = more bugs Feb 22 08:51:11 well, 20 years of IT in many many environmetns has taught me somethign differnet Feb 22 08:51:38 simpifly and standize = more stable systems Feb 22 08:52:19 IT could mean whatever, it's like beer Feb 22 08:52:33 SAP for example... Feb 22 08:53:01 thigns that i coudl talk about; Feb 22 08:53:34 anyway.. Feb 22 08:53:38 no point arguing about it Feb 22 08:53:54 becuase we sinmply disagree Feb 22 08:53:56 sure, live in the dark forever :) Feb 22 08:54:02 likewise Feb 22 08:58:39 mrpackethead: hint: tooting how many years of experience in IT you have does not increase your credibility Feb 22 08:59:22 mrpackethead: i've been long enough in this business to know that years of "experience" does not mean anything in IT or electronics Feb 22 08:59:31 last comment. I've got a differnent opinon based on my experiences Feb 22 08:59:39 just like you Feb 22 08:59:55 juup, and i accept that Feb 22 09:00:12 and think that you might learn something different as well, as you gain more experience... or not Feb 22 09:00:29 yes, absolutely, the day i stop learning, should be the day i die Feb 22 09:07:49 mrpackethead hm try gosa Feb 22 09:08:28 hm ah its only german Feb 22 09:08:29 theres also apache directory studio Feb 22 09:08:38 so why do you ask us Feb 22 09:08:51 because i foudn that just a minute ago Feb 22 09:09:21 https://demo.gonicus.de/gosa.html Feb 22 09:11:17 sadly the demo passwords dont' work :-( Feb 22 09:11:38 hm Feb 22 09:11:43 but its php Feb 22 09:11:46 anyway Feb 22 09:42:11 * av500 curses FTDI bitbanging Feb 22 09:57:51 i hope you are doing it in the most complex way Feb 22 10:05:27 its too slow Feb 22 10:05:27 can do only 3MHZ Feb 22 10:05:28 and only 64 bytes at a time Feb 22 10:05:29 :( Feb 22 10:05:55 I'm banging a LED strip Feb 22 10:06:02 with adressable LEDS Feb 22 10:06:29 there was this ledstrip controller recently... Feb 22 10:06:49 http://www.hoektronics.com/2013/02/20/blinkyboard-china-pollution-data/ Feb 22 10:06:54 I bought the ALDI strip yesterday Feb 22 10:07:36 there are different controllers Feb 22 10:07:40 2 pin and 1 pin Feb 22 10:07:44 the aldi is 1 pin Feb 22 10:07:47 we have it working on some AVR Feb 22 10:07:54 trolls Feb 22 10:08:13 so I guess I need some uC to proxy that Feb 22 10:08:14 mranotroll Feb 22 10:08:23 maybe the unused launchpad.. Feb 22 10:08:32 bit-proxy-bang Feb 22 10:08:44 i make a living out of dealing with contronable leds Feb 22 10:09:03 kontron-able? Feb 22 10:09:16 lol. Feb 22 10:09:54 av500, what chipset is on the strip Feb 22 10:10:24 unknown Feb 22 10:10:30 ahh Feb 22 10:10:44 common ones, Feb 22 10:10:46 on the avr we do 260ns for 0 and 3x that for 1 Feb 22 10:10:46 6803 Feb 22 10:10:47 2801 Feb 22 10:10:59 no Feb 22 10:11:03 these are all 2-pin Feb 22 10:11:07 this is 1-pin Feb 22 10:11:10 more like 2811 Feb 22 10:11:18 ok. Feb 22 10:11:22 its an 8pin, no marking Feb 22 10:11:33 as said, it works, but not with FTDI bitbang :( Feb 22 10:15:34 where do you need the led-strip av500? Feb 22 10:15:45 you ask the wrong question Feb 22 10:15:50 "because I can" Feb 22 10:16:21 ah waste of time Feb 22 10:16:23 okay Feb 22 10:17:22 yes :) Feb 22 10:19:19 jm mental note for buying mickey mouse next week Feb 22 10:58:26 hi Feb 22 11:01:56 that was fast Feb 22 14:00:09 * SilicaGel Do Not Eat Feb 22 14:05:42 hi silicagel Feb 22 14:05:52 Hi! How goes the war? Feb 22 14:06:10 which? Feb 22 14:06:45 You choose! Feb 22 14:06:59 check mate Feb 22 14:07:36 I'm building a 32-node hadoop cluster :D Feb 22 14:08:04 lol Feb 22 14:08:17 so you are in the cloud now Feb 22 14:09:09 sort of. We built a 2-room ECO IT lab. It's sort of like 2 mini server rooms. One will be regularly air conditioned, the othe rwill be free air - humidity controlled but intended to run it fairly hot (90 deg F) all the time Feb 22 14:09:22 we're going to do energy use comparisons vs. reliability and performance Feb 22 14:09:33 so I figured ok, sounds like a hadoop cluster, half in each room Feb 22 14:10:27 you got money from the university for it? Feb 22 14:10:28 i really wanted it to be arm based but arm server hardware is still pretty sketchy Feb 22 14:10:40 Yeah, from new york state actually Feb 22 14:11:09 I kind of wanted one of those Dell Copper 192-core arm contraptions but they said sorry we won't sell you one. Feb 22 14:17:21 thats life Feb 22 14:18:21 now for the price i'm spending on this x86 cluster I could install Feb 22 14:18:37 472 beaglebones Feb 22 14:18:57 I wonder if anybody has tried to run hadoop on 472 beaglebones Feb 22 14:25:57 I don't think that would pay off, bang for the buck :) Feb 22 14:29:26 bitbang hadoop yes Feb 22 14:39:08 <_av500_> bit badaboom bang Feb 22 14:41:10 beowulf! Feb 22 14:48:01 beaglewulf! Feb 22 15:15:33 TROLLS!!! Feb 22 15:16:56 mooo Feb 22 15:19:27 mooing trolls? Feb 22 15:21:33 aptitude moo Feb 22 15:28:03 moos at KotH Feb 22 15:31:24 mranostay: be carefull.. someone might mistake you for a cow and try to milk you Feb 22 15:35:45 that would be creepy Feb 22 15:41:35 hey purple Feb 22 15:42:44 mranostay: hey bud Feb 22 15:42:52 mranostay: whats cookin this morning? Feb 22 15:45:54 hmm.. aren't there any lcd's out there that use less than 1mA on idle? Feb 22 15:46:29 uh no Feb 22 15:46:58 :-/ Feb 22 15:47:18 how do all those lcd clocks do it then? Feb 22 15:47:28 what up dogs? Feb 22 15:48:29 Does anyone know where I can get an accurate 3D model of the Bone? I found a .STP but an .SLT, or anyting that will import into Blender would be better. Or even something that is free and would do a conversion. Feb 22 15:51:47 the step file is what you are looking for Feb 22 15:51:55 i'm quite sure there are converters for blender out there Feb 22 15:52:20 Thanks, I've been looking but so far no dice. Feb 22 15:55:38 prpplague: correction, there is: ls013b4dn02 15uW typical when idle Feb 22 15:58:09 yo prpplague Feb 22 16:00:43 KotH: i assumed you were talking about an LCD that is functional for some type of mobile device Feb 22 16:00:57 KotH: that is more of a dedicate lcd module Feb 22 16:02:10 KotH: sure if you looking for something that is black/greyscale only and is as doing static display refresh, then yea it is possible Feb 22 16:02:28 KotH: if you are doing a full TFT or STN color display, 1mA isn't happening Feb 22 16:03:56 prpplague: ofc.. sorry, yes i was looking for something greyscale Feb 22 16:05:01 prpplague: looking for some device that displays data that is updated somewhere between once per second to once per minute and has to run from 2 AAA cells for at least half a year Feb 22 16:05:23 KotH: epaper is a better choice Feb 22 16:05:24 prpplague: current plan is to use an msp430 with some low power lcd Feb 22 16:05:41 prpplague: do you know where i can get them single pieces? Feb 22 16:08:06 hmm.. found one on mouser Feb 22 16:15:13 meh.. 8mA use when powered and 40mA inrush current... Feb 22 16:29:15 hi, i'm getting an unknown package for lighthttpd for beaglebone Feb 22 16:37:15 David_, isn't it lighttpd? Feb 22 16:42:00 david we have recipe for lighttpd Feb 22 16:42:14 so angstroem should have it Feb 22 17:03:18 It smells like updog in here. Feb 22 17:06:09 <_av500_> Jacmet: that thread about FIT is epic Feb 22 17:06:45 Whoo-hoo! (Homer voice) about to start soldering parts on my first cape PCB design. Feb 22 17:07:01 <_av500_> solder all the things! Feb 22 17:08:15 hell yes Feb 22 17:08:48 epic thread is epic Feb 22 17:09:53 mranostay, which thread now? Feb 22 17:09:59 the signing one/ Feb 22 17:10:00 ? Feb 22 17:20:24 <_av500_> the one about DT Feb 22 17:20:43 <_av500_> and how arm boards will ship with DT in flash that will never be touched again Feb 22 17:21:01 <_av500_> because the OEMs will make it flawless Feb 22 17:21:09 <_av500_> makes a nice fairy tale Feb 22 17:22:40 ah yes, even jkridner jumped in Feb 22 17:23:01 I'll be sure to request a complete DT with the next piece of ARM hardware I purchase Feb 22 17:23:57 reminds me of the "you keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means" Feb 22 17:24:28 _av500_: any ponies in this tale? Feb 22 17:27:37 not yet at least Feb 22 17:27:50 I think we need to figure out what each person's pony would be Feb 22 17:28:01 would rmk's pony be device trees in an external repo? Feb 22 17:28:18 the death of u-boot? Feb 22 17:29:01 <_av500_> yeah Feb 22 17:29:12 <_av500_> btw, are DTs GPL? Feb 22 17:29:24 <_av500_> if I have a random far east OEM and ask for his GPL code Feb 22 17:29:27 long live omapboot Feb 22 17:29:33 <_av500_> do I get only the kernel Feb 22 17:29:39 <_av500_> or also the DT Feb 22 17:29:58 just the codez Feb 22 17:30:02 don't need the datez Feb 22 17:30:08 <_av500_> of course not Feb 22 17:30:15 <_av500_> I can decompile the one in flash Feb 22 17:30:19 <_av500_> right? Feb 22 17:30:22 dtb disassembler? Feb 22 17:30:28 <_av500_> or trace the PCB with my multimeter Feb 22 17:30:43 _av500_: yeah Feb 22 17:30:48 <_av500_> mdp: serious question btw, about DT and GPL Feb 22 17:31:29 if your dts is in an external repo, I don't think there are any restrictions on licensing Feb 22 17:31:38 <_av500_> perfect Feb 22 17:31:54 the ones in the kernel source at least seem to have gpl headers Feb 22 17:32:21 scripts/dtc/dtc -I dtb -O dts -o fromdtb.dts boot_with_this.dtb Feb 22 17:32:40 course, your licensing terms may mean that running that command means you are a very bad person Feb 22 17:33:04 <_av500_> what does it do? Feb 22 17:33:13 lemme see Feb 22 17:34:17 it gives you a pony Feb 22 17:34:19 http://hastebin.com/fegihofako.xml Feb 22 17:35:01 also, I think you get a dt in /proc/device-tree Feb 22 17:35:01 _av500_: choose your vendor wisely Feb 22 17:35:17 scripts/dtc/dtc -I fs -O dts -o reverse.dts /proc/device-tree/ Feb 22 17:35:59 yeah Feb 22 17:38:00 <_av500_> mdp: well, I am the vendor :) Feb 22 17:39:03 <_av500_> is that proc/device-tree as good as the original file? Feb 22 17:39:34 uhhhhh Feb 22 17:40:29 _av500_, you are missing out on the /include/ divisions at the very least Feb 22 17:40:29 you mean with human readable comments? Feb 22 17:40:50 http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6003/5899571386_98d7930888_z.jpg just 'cause it's apropos Feb 22 17:40:56 pretty sure you don't get any of those either Feb 22 17:41:14 it's like a disassembly Feb 22 17:44:16 consider that the input was a dtb...all those pretty labels are gone Feb 22 17:50:26 <_av500_> mdp: yes Feb 22 17:50:33 <_av500_> so not the original Feb 22 17:56:27 there are strange projects out there: measuring femtosecond light pulses using a LED (yes, that's not a typo) Feb 22 17:58:58 with LED? Feb 22 17:59:06 juup Feb 22 17:59:14 how does that work? Feb 22 17:59:21 quickly Feb 22 17:59:25 yoy dont mean photodiode? Feb 22 17:59:30 nope, led Feb 22 17:59:55 mranostay: http://qolah.org/thesis/thesis-syed.pdf <- read for yourself Feb 22 18:00:22 mranostay: the way how it works is simple: any pn junktion is basically a photodetector and a photoemitter Feb 22 18:00:41 TIL Feb 22 18:00:43 mranostay: wheter you get the one or the other depends on the biasing and current trough the junction Feb 22 18:01:29 (and yes, in the good old days, people reverse engineered chips by looking at the light pulses emitted from it) Feb 22 18:01:45 ! Feb 22 18:02:25 KotH: it makes me wish I knew what a PN junction was, so I could work out whether that's true Feb 22 18:02:31 no nodejs to help? Feb 22 18:02:33 cause it sounds like magic Feb 22 18:03:08 any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic Feb 22 18:03:08 biot: pick up an introductory book on semiconductor physics Feb 22 18:03:29 mru: any sufficiently advanced magic is indistiguishable from technology Feb 22 18:14:51 at gate now Feb 22 18:15:31 _av500_: right..you'll essentially have obfuscated code Feb 22 18:15:58 <_av500_> good Feb 22 18:16:04 <_av500_> the evil vendor in my likes that Feb 22 18:16:33 * _av500_ makes a note to disable dt in proc Feb 22 18:19:56 mranostay: if you want do learn something else that's kind of weird, have a look at optical phase locked loops :) Feb 22 18:23:06 _av500_: we are all evil vendors inside Feb 22 18:23:31 Is it me or have 0805 resistors gotten smaller in my old age? Feb 22 18:25:42 (beagleboard-xm question:) when I do `i2cget -f -y 2 0x1a 0x00` I don't always see a signal. Should I? Feb 22 18:25:57 I sometimes see a clock signal... but never have seen a data signal yet. Feb 22 18:26:16 Pins are muxed to be I2C (according to debugfs and u-boot configs) Feb 22 18:27:05 Greyhound: they didnt, but you remember the old 1206 resistors that are nearly extinct these days ;) Feb 22 18:29:11 ...nevermind. Feb 22 18:30:08 was actually joking about my degrading eyesight but that works. Feb 22 18:30:24 KotH: that sounds phd'ish :) Feb 22 18:31:17 mranostay: you dont need a phd to read that stuff ;) Feb 22 18:31:40 Greyhound: alzheimer does work as well ;) Feb 22 18:32:38 KotH: if i want to understand it Feb 22 18:33:58 mranostay: you dont need a phd for that either Feb 22 18:34:39 mranostay: all you need to know is how a pll works (compares the phase of two signals using a non-linear device) and you will understand how an opll works Feb 22 18:34:54 mranostay: it's so simple, even i understand it... (and yes, i dont have a phd ;) Feb 22 18:37:43 now, shift registers...gotta have a phd to grok those Feb 22 18:38:54 mdp: was mmc working ok for you in uboot on ti814x? Feb 22 18:40:34 mdp: from a quick look at the 814x datasheet it seems to be clocked at 192MHz, but you didn't change MMC_CLOCK_REFERENCE from am335x (which uses 96MHz) Feb 22 18:43:41 * KotH remembers seen books on the topic on whether electronics past 100MHz would be physically possible Feb 22 18:44:06 clearly it's not Feb 22 18:47:10 Jacmet: yes..worked...must be lucky. i'm about to take off and then gone for the weekend...will check and sync with you on monday. Feb 22 18:47:37 <_av500_> KotH: coworker did a PhD on optical signal filtering at 10GHz thinking electronics will not be able to do it, by the time he was done, it was possible :) Feb 22 18:47:57 *g* Feb 22 18:47:59 mdp: ok, enjoy the weekend Feb 22 18:48:08 you too..cys Feb 22 18:48:11 cya Feb 22 18:48:21 and...friday!!! Feb 22 18:48:49 troll troll troll! Feb 22 18:49:15 your boat ... Feb 22 18:49:36 mranostay got shirt Feb 22 18:49:44 <_av500_> gently down the twitter stream Feb 22 18:49:52 woglinde: shirt? Feb 22 18:50:13 mranostay troll troll troll Feb 22 19:04:33 hmmm Feb 22 19:05:50 ds2 yes? Feb 22 19:06:20 people are vanishing!!!!! Feb 22 19:07:05 * KotH vanishes Feb 22 19:08:32 ugh Feb 22 19:08:34 aliens Feb 22 19:09:39 timetravelers Feb 22 19:14:42 ds2: warn them about the dalek's Feb 22 19:15:56 not to mention the Cybermen ;) Feb 22 19:22:01 <_av500_> weeping angels Feb 22 19:22:07 ds2, STM32L1 Feb 22 19:23:31 L1? Feb 22 19:24:20 I'm just a copy/paste monkey Feb 22 19:24:32 context? Feb 22 19:24:35 everyone in the multicore talk? Feb 22 19:24:45 saying i have a typo? Feb 22 19:24:48 the watch the other guy is doing Feb 22 19:24:54 ohhhh Feb 22 19:24:56 that's the processor he's using Feb 22 19:25:06 i am using a stm32f1 Feb 22 19:25:12 which omap3 did your watch have? Feb 22 19:25:23 hence the typo q Feb 22 19:25:30 motoactv Feb 22 19:33:13 troll troll the gentoo users Feb 22 19:35:29 Crofton: !!! Feb 22 19:35:38 hi Feb 22 19:38:29 Where do you guys buy stuff to connect to those small 1.27mm (.050") pitch connectors? Feb 22 19:38:48 connector stores? Feb 22 19:39:55 ds2: right... but I'm coming up zero with digikey, fry's, and anybody else. Feb 22 19:40:45 I can find lots of "headers" in that size... but can't find anything to connect to them. Feb 22 19:41:36 i got them from digikey Feb 22 19:42:01 ds2: The Connector Store? :P Feb 22 19:42:17 sure! Feb 22 19:42:56 batteries+! Feb 22 19:43:11 â€¦or not Feb 22 19:52:26 fat elves? how non-PC Feb 22 19:53:11 I remember the whole fat elf discussion Feb 22 19:54:08 just got a beaglebone the other day Feb 22 19:54:18 congratz Feb 22 19:54:31 can't wait to try it out- didnt have a sd adapter to load an image Feb 22 19:54:41 so have to wait until monda Feb 22 19:54:43 *monday Feb 22 19:54:54 pity they didnt provide one, but meh Feb 22 19:55:18 djlewis- thanks, it seems like alot of fun Feb 22 19:55:25 so many different projects Feb 22 19:55:54 its a mini-linux computer with alot of nice I/O tagged on Feb 22 19:56:37 I plan to use mine to make a PBX for home Feb 22 19:57:05 the only problem with this thing is -I will want to take it apart to make something else Feb 22 19:58:31 so, what have you guys built with your beagle board? Feb 22 20:11:35 tablets! Feb 22 20:11:41 trolling begin Feb 22 20:11:50 fur coats Feb 22 20:12:33 haha :) Feb 22 20:12:38 and i thought dbus is bad... Feb 22 20:12:41 viagra tablets ?:P Feb 22 20:13:42 troll troll the greek dude Feb 22 20:13:47 man, panto is in a hurry, when did he start? Feb 22 20:15:34 I wonder has anyone wrote a driver to allow bit-banging to an analog display through something like scart Feb 22 20:15:37 or component Feb 22 20:15:51 LCD's seem expensive Feb 22 20:16:56 lcds are cheap. engineering is expensive Feb 22 20:17:07 Russ: he has 44 slides Feb 22 20:17:25 but someone did a quick and dirty vga Feb 22 20:17:39 I came in here with a few minutes to spare, but he was already going Feb 22 20:17:51 this looks interesting?? Feb 22 20:17:52 http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/bchafy/lood.html Feb 22 20:18:03 yeah he started 5 minutes early Feb 22 20:18:41 ds2- more for experience than saving money Feb 22 20:19:48 that link deals with vga-component Feb 22 20:20:09 I wonder what about straight GPIO-component Feb 22 20:20:13 who's baby showed up to panto's talk? Feb 22 20:20:35