**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 25 02:59:59 2013 Mar 25 04:10:15 netsplits are jsut going crazy today Mar 25 04:10:39 mranostay: you about Mar 25 04:10:58 somewhat Mar 25 04:20:49 sorry, mised you Mar 25 04:21:02 mranostay: have you ever messed with the soldermask pad size in Eagle? Mar 25 04:22:41 not really Mar 25 04:23:06 im just wanting to tweak my laser stencils a little bit Mar 25 04:24:34 mrpackethead: you don't use Eagle typically? Mar 25 04:24:44 i use eagle all the time Mar 25 04:24:57 i've just never done this before Mar 25 04:25:13 i know it can be done at gerber level Mar 25 04:25:19 but thats a tad annoying Mar 25 04:25:31 yeah a bit Mar 25 04:25:35 because my laser doe'nst work with gerbers Mar 25 04:26:00 i output a PS file from Eagle through the cam job Mar 25 04:26:13 i think you can change the package for that Mar 25 04:26:15 its a bit contrived Mar 25 04:26:41 i was just thinking there might be a way of doing things at a board level Mar 25 04:26:55 i know you can globally reduce pads in a gerber Mar 25 04:27:49 i don't think your can Mar 25 04:27:53 *you Mar 25 04:30:12 more googleing Mar 25 04:31:54 hey you can do it Mar 25 04:31:58 its in a dumb place Mar 25 04:32:01 in teh DRC Mar 25 05:12:41 mrpackethead: that is a dumb place to do it... Mar 25 05:12:57 why does the DRC change anything?!?! :/ Mar 25 05:16:57 yup.. good queston Mar 25 05:17:26 you can force changes on several things in the DRC Mar 25 05:27:40 news to me Mar 25 05:28:41 in DRC got to masks Mar 25 05:28:50 also restring will mess with stuff Mar 25 06:00:53 mranostay: yup, the DRC stuff in Masks messes with it Mar 25 06:02:07 weird Mar 25 06:04:22 Shadyman: how goes the dual soldering irons? Mar 25 06:06:28 mranostay: weird, but it acehives what i want to do Mar 25 06:06:29 :-) Mar 25 06:07:11 mranostay: Hot. Mar 25 06:07:48 shady, what are you doing with dual soldering irons Mar 25 06:08:16 mrpackethead: Karate Mar 25 06:08:29 geepers. Mar 25 06:13:37 Shadyman: you have a extension cord? Mar 25 06:13:47 but of course Mar 25 06:19:41 <_av500_> yawn Mar 25 06:20:49 <_av500_> dual irons is for SMD desoldering Mar 25 06:21:16 dueling irons? Mar 25 06:41:53 that sounds like it wouldn't end well Mar 25 06:49:17 headed to sleep. if anyone is up, would be great if we could get some edits to http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/Ideas Mar 25 07:00:03 jkridner (via the logs) - looked at the page. can't think of more specifics to add. Mar 25 07:08:50 jkridner: *ahem* i already created patches for iio sysfs entries.. *ahem* :) Mar 25 07:09:29 then put down what *does* need to be done! :) Mar 25 07:09:50 so is the Mentor list self sign up? :) Mar 25 07:10:16 er mentor Mar 25 07:12:40 gm Mar 25 07:19:35 mranostay: you just volunteered, no take-backsies Mar 25 07:20:01 i look forward to corrupting the youth Mar 25 07:22:24 <_av500_> mranostay: in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king :) Mar 25 07:22:57 gm av500 Mar 25 07:23:07 <_av500_> gm woglinde Mar 25 07:23:20 av500 schoolvaction too? Mar 25 07:23:26 <_av500_> yeah Mar 25 07:23:37 alright Mar 25 07:23:52 <_av500_> but luckily I am at work :) Mar 25 07:24:41 schoolvaction? Mar 25 07:24:51 <_av500_> Osterferien Mar 25 07:25:00 and a wonderfull CRUSADE! everyone! Mar 25 07:25:08 ah.. Mar 25 07:25:17 <_av500_> KotH: let's retake the Holy Land!1!1!1 Mar 25 07:25:26 koth sme have kids, you know Mar 25 07:25:53 ah damn crappy inet Mar 25 07:26:01 yeah.. i've heard about that illness...nasty thing... Mar 25 07:26:09 <_av500_> woglinde: use Frefunk Mar 25 07:26:11 <_av500_> woglinde: use Freifunk Mar 25 07:26:13 _av500_: i don't see you on there Mar 25 07:26:20 <_av500_> mranostay: I was a stealth mentor Mar 25 07:26:43 <_av500_> I mentored behind enemy lines Mar 25 07:26:59 wait can we get the interns to do our crappy patches for us? Mar 25 07:27:10 like stuff nobody sane would want to do :) Mar 25 07:27:32 <_av500_> mranostay: mayabe you can find an intern that knows diagonals? Mar 25 07:27:42 _av500_: i hate you :) Mar 25 07:28:14 you know, 45 is 1/2 of 90 Mar 25 07:29:44 <_av500_> ynezz: mranostay is more in the 54° range... Mar 25 07:29:57 diagonals? Mar 25 07:30:11 * dm8tbr hands out 26° angles Mar 25 07:30:35 <_av500_> KotH: pcb traces Mar 25 07:30:51 what about them? Mar 25 07:30:59 <_av500_> well Mar 25 07:31:25 i havent been around this weekend, i missed quite a few things Mar 25 07:31:30 <_av500_> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-TuxCGCbO_0c/UU-Ne44_abI/AAAAAAAAMDQ/gwfvZnzWqqE/s961/Screen+Shot+2013-03-24+at+4.32.35+PM.png Mar 25 07:31:35 * dm8tbr posits that all traces should join at angles of multiples of 26° Mar 25 07:31:49 <_av500_> 26, 54, 78 Mar 25 07:31:55 <_av500_> like thel old records Mar 25 07:32:28 <_av500_> 26, 54, 78, 99 red ballons Mar 25 07:32:35 <_av500_> there, add that to your DRC file Mar 25 07:32:38 lol Mar 25 07:33:27 +1 Mar 25 07:33:37 -EUNROUTED Mar 25 07:37:08 morning Mar 25 07:38:30 greetings earthling, you come in pieces Mar 25 07:45:04 KotH: alien jihad? Mar 25 08:06:22 jihad against unreasonable schedules Mar 25 08:19:42 joel_, ping Mar 25 08:23:56 im wald ist es, bzw. war es zumindest früher, kostenlos Mar 25 08:23:58 uups Mar 25 08:25:37 free trolling in the woords? Mar 25 08:26:18 aholler: TMI Mar 25 08:29:04 someone still has hopes that the weather will become better and searches a place to barbecue. Mar 25 08:29:23 ah Mar 25 08:29:28 one can BBQ in the snow too Mar 25 08:29:44 so I told him about the woods around here: http://karlstern.de/ Mar 25 08:43:29 all back Mar 25 08:49:38 hi there! First time here Mar 25 08:50:47 I'd like to ask for some orientation regarding the beaglebone. I'm not new to the embedded world. I've been working with the OMAPL138 for some months and finally i decided to switch to the AM3359 so i purchased a nice little BeagleBone. Mar 25 08:50:57 Any tips regarding my first steps? Mar 25 08:51:17 I'm planning to start setting up Ubuntu from http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone#BeagleBone-LinuxBuildScript%3A Mar 25 08:51:24 gm Mar 25 08:51:55 strange choice of embedded os if you have previous experience Mar 25 08:52:42 could you explain that? Mar 25 08:52:55 apologies but not and expert or anything close Mar 25 08:53:31 hi! Mar 25 08:53:49 hi, good morning, i've just been fighting some months with the embedded world and i really discovered that it was what i liked Mar 25 08:55:07 erle: I'm not going to stop you from using ubuntu, but you might want to explore the other embedded options too. like angstrom Mar 25 08:58:51 dm8tbr Thanks for your comment. I'm going to evaluate that option carefully. Mar 25 08:59:22 np Mar 25 09:58:12 anyone used a FIT image on the bone ? I keep getting the "data abort" error though I based my scripts on the examples of the documentation. Tells me to take a look at arm_unaligned_access but I'm not sure what to do with that ... Mar 25 10:09:17 joel_: ^^^^ Mar 25 10:15:21 av500, tried pinging him friday and this WE to no avail :( Mar 25 10:16:20 seems a busy man Mar 25 10:16:35 tried #uboot? Mar 25 10:18:18 yup, will see what they have to say Mar 25 10:41:53 joel_ and I have been holding a conversation via two lines of znc storing per day. he's usually only around .eu hours Mar 25 10:42:15 or more like .in hours Mar 25 10:43:50 mdp: did you get a chance to take a quick look to see if the spi dma issue is present on your testboard? Mar 25 10:44:17 the one where you get the 16bits of data _______gap_____ rest of data Mar 25 10:44:22 not yet Mar 25 10:44:41 gym..bbl Mar 25 10:45:22 and on that note, has anyone ever seen the chip select toggle between words work (cs_change flag) Mar 25 10:46:04 I have look at mainline and it seems there are TWO implementations of it in the same driver, so I assume someone has noticed it didn't work and tried to re-implement it on top without fixing the underlying problem Mar 25 12:35:20 [kernel] koenkooi pushed 1 new commit to 3.8: http://git.io/sCiltw Mar 25 12:35:20 kernel/3.8 20e92cc Koen Kooi: 3.8: add atmel_mxt_ts patchset... Mar 25 12:37:03 * mru stabs glibc Mar 25 12:37:26 post-dreper-anger? Mar 25 12:38:17 roland mcgrath broke arm configuration Mar 25 12:38:56 i'm trying to configure a gpio as an output pin via DT. a snipped i found references a section 9.3.1: CONTROL_MODULE registers in some "TRM". can this document for the beaglebone be found on the web? Mar 25 12:39:13 pinctel Mar 25 12:39:21 ehm Mar 25 12:39:23 pinctrl Mar 25 12:40:53 the pin configuration is at the moment 0x34 0x37, which seems to be gpmc_ad13.gpio1_13 input, pull up, mux mode 7... until now i just found some header files with some macros which could be the solution... but a table would be nice ;) Mar 25 12:42:31 * mru stabs autoconf Mar 25 12:46:40 mru: use a pike! Mar 25 12:49:16 mru, AM_CONFIG_IKE Mar 25 12:49:18 *PIKE Mar 25 12:50:41 Luca256: what's the status of wl127x and DT? Mar 25 12:54:17 panto: rob pike? Mar 25 12:54:29 wl127x still exists? Mar 25 12:54:52 CC3000 is the future Mar 25 12:54:59 internet of things Mar 25 12:55:40 IoT(tm) Mar 25 12:56:12 * av500 got his CC3000 today Mar 25 12:56:43 * av500 wonders what to do with it Mar 25 12:57:31 av500 what is a cc3000? Mar 25 12:59:31 http://www.google.de/search?q=cc3000 :) Mar 25 13:02:30 wireless network processor Mar 25 13:02:31 hjaha Mar 25 13:02:55 2,4 ghz only Mar 25 13:02:56 haha Mar 25 13:02:59 forget it Mar 25 13:04:17 lol nd even b/g Mar 25 13:04:23 what a useless product Mar 25 13:06:14 koen: my plan was 3.10, but I'll be on vacation the next 3 weeks, so I don't think it will make it Mar 25 13:06:36 koen: I already have some changes in the driver in preparation for DT, but the actual DT definitions and stuff are not ready Mar 25 13:07:20 woglinde: not useless at all Mar 25 13:07:39 woglinde: there are tons of uC out there that want to connect to av500's network Mar 25 13:10:22 woglinde: your coffee machine needs N speed? Mar 25 13:10:57 av500, only for espresso Mar 25 13:12:01 for that, we have a couple of syringes ready Mar 25 13:12:06 much faster than drinking Mar 25 13:13:08 av500: build a wireless mouse Mar 25 13:14:33 gah Mar 25 13:14:36 its only the naked module Mar 25 13:14:37 write drivers, be happy ;) Mar 25 13:14:42 not something ready to use Mar 25 13:14:50 * av500 stares at TI Mar 25 13:15:18 $35 and out of stock Mar 25 13:15:31 inspires confidence Mar 25 13:25:36 * mdp predicts they were all allocated to lead customers Mar 25 13:25:47 half of them to av500 Mar 25 13:26:08 mdp: we were almost a lead customer :) Mar 25 13:26:16 lucky you Mar 25 13:27:51 ... 1. You must have the Android SDK, and you must be free of command line phobia. Mar 25 13:28:54 I thought all android user have a command line phobia Mar 25 13:29:16 swipe to compile Mar 25 13:29:28 touch to program Mar 25 13:29:42 shake to fix bug Mar 25 13:29:48 users do not program Mar 25 13:29:54 bump to share to github Mar 25 13:30:52 glare to become famous Mar 25 13:31:40 how easy it is to become an expert ;) Mar 25 13:31:54 expert in 21 days Mar 25 13:32:28 build your own chad goodman cred in 21 days Mar 25 13:36:15 mdp ;) Mar 25 13:37:47 omg, the ti-rtos doesn't need registration Mar 25 13:38:08 the sales department must be in holidays Mar 25 13:38:15 quick, kang it! Mar 25 13:38:20 then its no good Mar 25 13:43:31 panto: the adc iio bits, is that to get sysfs entries for each adc channel? Mar 25 13:44:35 yes Mar 25 13:45:17 panto: so if I stick something equivalent to this https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/blob/41dbd166a6394be45389e25459cd127854615366/patches/not-capebus/0133-Update-iio-helper-with-more-channels.patch Mar 25 13:45:21 there's a patch (mranostay's started it) in the bone kernel that will allow you to also scale Mar 25 13:45:27 yeah, that's the one Mar 25 13:45:33 in my devicetree I should get entries for the adc Mar 25 13:45:51 jackmitchell: I will give that a try today..fighting some "advanced pointer" issues...can't write C today ;) Mar 25 13:46:03 yes, under the helper's sysfs dir Mar 25 13:46:15 panto: thanks Mar 25 13:46:22 mdp: re: spi issues? Mar 25 13:46:29 twiddle the scaling factors to get meaningful values for your h/w Mar 25 13:46:35 use references instead of pointers ;) Mar 25 13:46:41 just some changes I'm making to the entire series Mar 25 13:46:52 to support davinci booting from DT (required now) Mar 25 13:46:56 koen: also, the cs_change in the 3.8 is borked Mar 25 13:47:02 <100> gets you the mvolts at the pins Mar 25 13:47:10 for chipselects per word Mar 25 13:47:21 jackmitchell: er, but yeah, will test and cap a spi transmission to compare with you Mar 25 13:47:24 panto: ok thanks panto Mar 25 13:47:32 mdp: which davince? Mar 25 13:47:32 np Mar 25 13:47:38 mdp: DM6441? Mar 25 13:48:11 the spi-omap2 driver in mainline seems to be weird, I had to port a patch over to get it working Mar 25 13:48:21 in the 3.8 circuitco tree Mar 25 13:48:48 av500: all of them, already support them all via platform data Mar 25 13:49:07 da850 causes some problems..long story Mar 25 13:49:34 jackmitchell, huh? which patch? Mar 25 13:49:40 so I can run my gen4 with DT :) Mar 25 13:49:47 mdp: can I send you some? Mar 25 13:50:12 it's a trap Mar 25 13:50:44 panto: chip selects per word is broken on CircuitCo 3.8, I had to put the code at line 957 into the circuitco kernel Mar 25 13:50:58 and force it to be always on Mar 25 13:51:08 just as a temporary hack Mar 25 13:51:51 there is still code that is wrong in there, as it also tries to do chipselects per word at line 1012 Mar 25 13:52:06 but that bit of code doesn't work Mar 25 13:52:19 https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git/tree/drivers/spi/spi-omap2-mcspi.c?id=refs/tags/next-20130325 Mar 25 13:52:20 good morning alan_o Mar 25 13:52:35 av500: the only obsolete h/w I want is 6502-based ;) Mar 25 13:52:40 jackmitchell, hrmf Mar 25 13:52:55 make sure you email koen or me, so that we don't forget about it Mar 25 13:52:58 mdp: my brother still has a c64, if you want ;) Mar 25 13:53:08 yes ;) Mar 25 13:53:27 iirc the original "Brotkasten" Mar 25 13:53:29 panto: ok, I think it is _still_ wrong in mainline as setting cs_change to 1 should work, and it doesn't Mar 25 13:53:35 it's actually one I never had..I was a vic-20 -> apple ii person Mar 25 13:53:48 hmm? Mar 25 13:53:49 why not Mar 25 13:53:58 ok, maybe it's a swiss thing Mar 25 13:54:02 it looks like someone implemented it over the top as controller_data when it should be configurable on a per-transfer basis Mar 25 13:54:09 the vic and the appleII were not really popular overhere Mar 25 13:54:19 but everyone and their girlfriend had a c64 Mar 25 13:54:19 jackmitchell, doesn't surprise me Mar 25 13:54:24 KotH: here too Mar 25 13:54:36 only weird people hade apple2 Mar 25 13:54:38 apple ii was *it* here Mar 25 13:54:47 weird yuropeens had c64 Mar 25 13:55:00 mdp: yeah, c64 was very much a euro thing Mar 25 13:55:02 * KotH hasnt seen an apple2 until highschool Mar 25 13:55:22 the education channel for apple ii in .us was huge Mar 25 13:55:24 high school computer class had Apple2 Mar 25 13:55:26 VIC20 was for the brave ... Mar 25 13:55:33 C64 for the gamers Mar 25 13:55:35 the discount my mom got as a teacher was significant Mar 25 13:55:52 c64 ftw Mar 25 13:55:56 hi jkridner Mar 25 13:55:59 gamer ! Mar 25 13:56:10 did hack on it too Mar 25 13:56:17 av500: by the time I took pascal in high school, they had upgrade to apple iigs...so *fast* !!! Mar 25 13:56:20 action replay cartridge ftw Mar 25 13:56:32 * ogra_ learned soldering when building his 16k extension card for the VIC20 Mar 25 13:56:46 * av500 burned 6526s all the time Mar 25 13:57:03 * mdp notes that he successfully took everybody down memory lane Mar 25 13:57:20 old farts! Mar 25 13:57:32 (myself included) Mar 25 13:57:39 ++ Mar 25 13:57:39 my first computer: http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=1000 Mar 25 13:57:56 hehe Mar 25 13:57:59 I did knew most registers of the c64, something never happened again ;) Mar 25 13:58:20 * panto predicts the thread of conversation to descend quickly to "I've chiseled by stone abacus by hand you n00bs" Mar 25 13:58:45 av500, our first family PC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TI-30 Mar 25 13:59:20 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TI-57 <-- mine Mar 25 13:59:35 no wonder you are all in a TI channel Mar 25 13:59:37 first game console: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnavox_Odyssey Mar 25 13:59:37 http://pc-museum.com/gallery/rcm-057-big-Amstrad-NC100.jpg <- first laptop Mar 25 13:59:59 Jacmet: nice ;) Mar 25 14:00:09 the ti-30 was famous Mar 25 14:00:46 i think most pupils had one at that time Mar 25 14:01:05 if the had one at all Mar 25 14:01:22 +y Mar 25 14:01:52 * Crofton|work hand assembled 6800 assembly Mar 25 14:02:26 the good thing with the TI-57 was that it looked like the TI-30 ... teachers didnt catch that you could progam it in a far superior way :) Mar 25 14:02:59 Crofton|work: +1 Mar 25 14:03:03 panto: does the bone_iio_helper do pinmuxing, or the TI adc driver? Mar 25 14:03:16 * ogra_ remembers all his classmates had the 30 ... i could program the formulas in advance :) Mar 25 14:03:54 av500: our apple2 was proped right next to a superbrain :-) Mar 25 14:04:19 jackmitchell, the adc pins don't do pinmuxing Mar 25 14:04:28 KotH: Tell's head in a jar? Mar 25 14:04:40 av500: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intertec_Superbrain Mar 25 14:04:43 panto: ah, I see Mar 25 14:05:03 I guess it's too hard to do muxing for analog Mar 25 14:05:14 [ 1.170043] bone-iio-helper adc_testing.9: Could not get AIN0 analog input Mar 25 14:05:26 being at Uni during the HP48SX era...I noticed some friends at other Unis weren't allowed calculators at all during engineering exams.. Mar 25 14:05:29 so where do you think that comes from, I assumed it was because it didn't have control of the pin Mar 25 14:05:47 that seemed odd as we were pretty much all open book and whatever you want for calcs..it was all design problems Mar 25 14:05:53 so none of that helped Mar 25 14:05:55 jackmitchell, you need a device Mar 25 14:06:01 tsadc is required Mar 25 14:06:01 panto: ah, it seems iio_helper get initialised before the device Mar 25 14:06:06 its poor teaching and tests when you need a calc at math and engeneering Mar 25 14:06:10 [ 1.170043] bone-iio-helper adc_testing.9: Could not get AIN0 analog input Mar 25 14:06:10 [ 1.213727] ti_tscadc 44e0d000.tscadc: Initialized OK. Mar 25 14:06:10 [ 1.616204] tiadc tiadc: Initialized Mar 25 14:06:15 yeah Mar 25 14:06:21 you have to make sure that's the case Mar 25 14:06:24 I need to do some DT re-ordering Mar 25 14:06:36 if you put in a dtbo, the order is guaranteed Mar 25 14:06:55 dtbo? Mar 25 14:07:01 looks like ideal candidate for -EDEFFER_PROBE Mar 25 14:07:05 device tree blob overlay Mar 25 14:07:07 hi KotH what's new in .ch? Mar 25 14:07:10 ah Mar 25 14:07:15 XorA, that too Mar 25 14:07:19 gm alan_o Mar 25 14:07:31 but that would depend on the iio subsystem returning DEFFER_PROBE Mar 25 14:07:39 alan_o: winter has returned Mar 25 14:07:43 I'm not sure that's the case Mar 25 14:07:49 alan_o: we are all freezing to death ^^' Mar 25 14:07:57 panto: should be a simple enough patch if it doesn't, things like regulator now are AFAIK Mar 25 14:08:01 hi woglinde Mar 25 14:08:05 KotH: global warming? Mar 25 14:08:15 alan_o: yeah.. global warming Mar 25 14:08:31 * KotH wouldnt mind 30�C and a sandy beach Mar 25 14:08:35 XorA, dunno Mar 25 14:08:39 panto, is there a 20,000m View of how capemanager works and how the overlay magic works? Mar 25 14:08:53 but no, the germans must go all green, banish nuclear power and build solar power everywhere! Mar 25 14:09:06 :) Mar 25 14:09:12 you can have our waste Mar 25 14:09:14 ka6sox, you see, there's a tiny goblin in the device tree compiler that sort through the properties Mar 25 14:09:39 seriously, the patches have documentation entries that explain how everything works Mar 25 14:10:06 devices/goblin/base.c :-D Mar 25 14:10:14 in a nutshell, you can inject fragment of DT at specific points in the live tree Mar 25 14:10:42 if the changes alter the state of device nodes, they are affected accordingly Mar 25 14:11:04 KotH: the waste will even glow a million years, so you won't have to fear the cold Mar 25 14:11:05 so if you add a device, or modify the status of a device from disabled to okay, a new device will be registered Mar 25 14:11:20 aholler: s/cold/dark/ Mar 25 14:11:25 panto, I was just suggesting the firmware/capes/cape-bone-dvi-00A2.dts as a similar example to ka6sox's hdmi audio work Mar 25 14:11:43 mdp, yeah Mar 25 14:12:16 prpplague: ping Mar 25 14:12:17 ka6sox, another way to think about it is this: take the contents of the fragments and paste them in the boot dts Mar 25 14:12:37 ka6sox: in fact, the ugly thing is there is cape-boneblack-hdmi-00A0.dts for just the display out..which normally you would extend...but since koen wants this a cape to support beaglebone white + hdmi cape..I think the name is misleading Mar 25 14:13:01 ka6sox: but that explains why he really wants it as cape..the display part is already there as a cape Mar 25 14:13:06 yes, I see the patches for that. Mar 25 14:13:14 hmmm, and you can load an overlay automatically on boot, or would I need a script to do that? Mar 25 14:13:16 btw. the global warming will make it cold in europe if the gulf stream gets confused. so no warming for us :( Mar 25 14:13:34 jackmitchell: kernelcmdline, sysfs, etc Mar 25 14:13:50 koen, where is the hdmi cape? Mar 25 14:14:01 does it use the *same* chip as the LT? Mar 25 14:14:56 ka6sox, firmware/capes/cape-boneblack-hdmi-00A0.dts Mar 25 14:14:56 aholler: did you know that most of the climate models that predict global warming predict the same outcome independent of their input data? :) Mar 25 14:15:13 av500: pong Mar 25 14:15:19 hi prpplague Mar 25 14:15:19 ka6sox: the only job of the hdmi cape was to be able to pretend to be a black :) Mar 25 14:15:21 av500: hide! Mar 25 14:15:25 av500: the plague is after you! Mar 25 14:15:30 koen: heh, if its in the kernel command line that can be recursive :-D Mar 25 14:15:33 it's like allmost everything physicist are predicting about the universe Mar 25 14:15:37 panto: hey Mar 25 14:15:42 panto, I'm asking the cape for white..is it the *same* except for being on a *real* cape. Mar 25 14:16:00 ka6sox, I think it's the same Mar 25 14:16:12 koen ^^ Mar 25 14:16:13 I don't have one, so I can't be 100% sure Mar 25 14:16:51 ka6sox: that's what I said Mar 25 14:17:12 no difference between white+hdmicape+emmccape and black from a cape pov Mar 25 14:17:41 do you want to split audio from video as that is a possibility? Mar 25 14:17:52 koen, so it should be possible to make an 'upgrade' cape for white right? Mar 25 14:18:02 yes Mar 25 14:18:11 so you could have HDMI Video and a 6-8 channel audio? Mar 25 14:18:18 minus the new rev of am335x Mar 25 14:18:49 ka6sox, no idea if the horrors of mcasp would allow it Mar 25 14:18:55 should be possible ofcourse Mar 25 14:19:23 there are guys doing 4 channel recordings (but having issues with the buffering getting confused) Mar 25 14:19:50 the h/w is capable for this Mar 25 14:19:57 the rest is s/w Mar 25 14:19:57 more than capable Mar 25 14:20:01 should be easy right? Mar 25 14:20:06 ((snickers)) Mar 25 14:20:11 there's several people on davinci platforms doing lots of channels Mar 25 14:20:14 Mar 25 14:20:18 panto, "It's just software!" Mar 25 14:20:40 klick to build Mar 25 14:20:52 swipe to debug Mar 25 14:21:28 damn straight..make it so...engage Mar 25 14:21:35 shake to harlem Mar 25 14:21:58 * ka6sox continues down the rabbit hole of DT Mar 25 14:22:21 (and hopes he doesn't run into a goblin) Mar 25 14:22:27 * mdp hands ka6soc some muck boots Mar 25 14:22:29 I may be being very stupid, and I have prepared myself for ridicule, but where in the docs does it say about loading dtbo's from userspace... Mar 25 14:23:16 mdp: funny you have to point that out, since da850 is a *D*igital*A*udio part :) Mar 25 14:23:37 koen, did I mention that it's just software ?!? Mar 25 14:24:08 jackmitchell, Documentation/devicetree/bindings/misc/capes-beaglebone.txt Mar 25 14:24:08 mdp: and marketing Mar 25 14:24:16 koen, everybody thinks they are useless obsolete parts..forgets this stuff has been deployed forever Mar 25 14:24:21 I think the entire universe is a simulation running on software Mar 25 14:24:31 and coffee Mar 25 14:24:35 and since all software is buggy, there's probably a way to break through to the underlying hw Mar 25 14:24:39 +1 Mar 25 14:24:40 mru, I'll have to ask my hamster Mar 25 14:24:42 and run stuff directly on reality Mar 25 14:24:54 or the next level simulation as the case may be Mar 25 14:25:11 KotH, Nuclear has a capacity factor of 80-90%, Solar is 1-2%....so that means I hope the germans like to be in the DARK at night :P Mar 25 14:25:39 jackmitchell, and echo "part-number" >/slots to the capemgr sysfs entry will attempt to load that dtbo from /lib/firmware Mar 25 14:25:54 ka6sox: but we will the only then which still can replicate Mar 25 14:26:21 ka6sox: we just buy nuclear power from france Mar 25 14:26:37 ka6sox: the problem is, their nuclear is all not working Mar 25 14:26:46 so they buy from us Mar 25 14:26:58 there is a free energy joke in there somewhere Mar 25 14:27:37 ka6sox: well the germans use austria and switzerland as storage :) Mar 25 14:27:59 ka6sox: fun fact: germany paid .ch and .at big bucks this summer, to _take_ their electric power Mar 25 14:28:36 koen, unless we *have* to bind them together I'm going to treat it like we can mix/match...so use the TDA for video and 320AIC for Audio. Mar 25 14:29:18 since you did that for the DVI+Audio. Mar 25 14:30:24 KotH, last time I checked you can't *store* AC current...unless you change it from electric to something else...like stored water. Mar 25 14:30:29 ka6sox, well, if you have multiple configs just create a different dts for each Mar 25 14:31:13 okay Mar 25 14:31:26 ka6sox: who said anything about ac? Mar 25 14:31:37 ka6sox: alps = high mountains with lots of water :) Mar 25 14:31:38 if you have common parts you can just use /include/ in the dts Mar 25 14:31:39 so one for the HDMI+AUDIO and a different one for HDMI+AIC Mar 25 14:31:44 yeah Mar 25 14:32:05 panto, got it Mar 25 14:32:07 get them right, and we can worry about aesthetics later Mar 25 14:32:29 ka6sox: aka pumped storage hydro power station Mar 25 14:32:29 the swiss should build ponds on their mountains Mar 25 14:32:46 KotH, thats what I meant. Mar 25 14:32:53