**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 30 02:59:59 2013 Mar 30 03:47:42 Hmmm Mar 30 03:47:57 indeed Mar 30 03:48:08 what are you doing sober on a friday night? :D Mar 30 03:48:09 * prpplague grumbles about the fact that amazon video is down Mar 30 03:48:25 ds2: forgot to pickup beer before i dropped my car off for repairs Mar 30 03:48:30 DOH Mar 30 03:48:33 indeed Mar 30 03:48:49 no emergency beer or 'shine? Mar 30 03:49:00 "a bottle with 3 X'es on 'em" Mar 30 03:49:08 DOH Mar 30 03:49:17 Fire up the beer cannon! Mar 30 03:49:51 Now to build the BOM and order parts for these cape prototypes :/ Mar 30 03:50:51 ds2: naw, i generally don't "stock" anything, hehe Mar 30 03:51:09 oh JIT'ing the beers Mar 30 03:51:17 indeed Mar 30 03:52:32 livin' life on the edge ;) Mar 30 03:52:37 indeed Mar 30 03:52:55 indeed Mar 30 03:52:56 * prpplague checks to see if amazon is back up Mar 30 03:54:02 * prpplague grumbles Mar 30 03:54:04 nope Mar 30 04:04:07 prpplague, he's dead dave? Mar 30 04:04:13 (mixing movies) Mar 30 04:04:29 ka6sox-farfarawa: something like that Mar 30 07:23:14 * mranostay checks in Mar 30 07:23:20 beer! Mar 30 07:58:45 [kernel] koenkooi pushed 4 new commits to 3.8: http://git.io/CJUb4g Mar 30 07:58:45 kernel/3.8 80202ca Alan Ott: configs: turn on IEEE802154 and MRF24J40 for BeagleBone... Mar 30 07:58:45 kernel/3.8 2524b87 Alan Ott: not-capebus: add updated support for MRF24J40 cape... Mar 30 07:58:45 kernel/3.8 4935b84 Alan Ott: 6lowpan: Updated 6lowpan patches... Mar 30 08:34:45 greetings boys Mar 30 08:44:54 KotH: hey dude Mar 30 08:46:10 heyo! Mar 30 08:46:22 how's the beer treating you? Mar 30 08:47:11 under the legal limit Mar 30 08:47:43 back home i could change that Mar 30 08:47:50 hehe Mar 30 08:48:12 i hope you're not drinking alone Mar 30 08:48:26 av500: the gerbers i sent to oshpark are nicer Mar 30 08:48:34 KotH: wasn't at the bar Mar 30 08:48:57 was at what classifies as dive bar in CA Mar 30 08:49:29 KotH: you have swiss dive bars? Mar 30 08:49:46 i dont know what a dive bar is... and my dictionary isn't clear about it either Mar 30 08:49:59 hmmm hole-in-the-bar? Mar 30 08:50:03 *wall-bar Mar 30 08:50:24 erm... using idioms i dont know isn't going to help Mar 30 08:51:02 ah.. wiki has a nice entry Mar 30 08:51:11 yes, there are quite a few of those Mar 30 08:51:23 yeah that is my kind of bar Mar 30 08:51:33 reminds me of 'home' Mar 30 08:51:44 "home"? Mar 30 08:51:51 well the midwest Mar 30 08:51:58 ah.. Mar 30 08:52:25 i would guess you've such bars everywhere in the world Mar 30 08:52:32 maybe Mar 30 08:52:35 even in a clean and sterile country like japan Mar 30 08:52:52 but i hate uppity bars with an insane cover Mar 30 08:52:58 eh.. Mar 30 08:53:04 * KotH doesnt go to them either Mar 30 08:53:04 and night clubs + dance clubs suck Mar 30 08:53:19 :-) Mar 30 08:53:27 spoken like a true geek! :-) Mar 30 08:54:35 heh Mar 30 08:56:04 bah have to be in SF-ish in 10 hours i probably should sleep but bah Mar 30 08:56:23 why? Mar 30 08:56:30 KotH: problem with 'dive bars' is no girls usually :) Mar 30 08:56:32 it's saturday Mar 30 08:56:46 overhere, that's the problem with most bars and clubs :) Mar 30 08:57:04 KotH: you are in Zurich? Mar 30 08:57:04 actually, if you want to meet girls, you've to go to student parties Mar 30 08:57:16 but these can be a bit young... Mar 30 08:57:17 yeah Mar 30 08:57:27 in the middle of the big village called switzerland Mar 30 08:57:47 KotH: so would being an american help or hurt me there in bars? :) Mar 30 08:58:03 i dont know Mar 30 08:58:24 i dont usually go to bars, and when, it's together with friends Mar 30 08:58:41 weird thing in CA i get asked if an 'american' :) Mar 30 08:58:49 lol Mar 30 08:59:08 no joke Mar 30 08:59:12 why? Mar 30 08:59:22 i mean.. you dont look mexican or something Mar 30 08:59:27 you dont sound like a canadian Mar 30 08:59:38 well i do have accent that isn't CA Mar 30 08:59:39 ok.. you are not a 100kg fatty... Mar 30 08:59:48 weird thing in CA i get asked if an 'australian' Mar 30 08:59:54 rotfl Mar 30 08:59:58 heh Mar 30 09:00:10 why the heck australian? Mar 30 09:00:15 you definitly dont sound like that Mar 30 09:00:20 my accent is 'netural' for english Mar 30 09:00:36 NZ and Australian accents are similar to Americans it seems Mar 30 09:00:52 mrpackethead: not really Mar 30 09:01:01 mrpackethead: they are quite easy to tell apart Mar 30 09:01:17 at least for someone living in europe Mar 30 09:01:20 KotH: to my ears yes. To many americans no Mar 30 09:01:31 i think my last name makes them think i'm russian Mar 30 09:01:46 however, some Australian accents are very similar to NZ Mar 30 09:01:55 huh? dont they know that russian names end of -ov? Mar 30 09:01:59 South Australia and NZ is very very similar. I cant' pick that Mar 30 09:02:09 A sydney-ite is very distintive Mar 30 09:02:16 KotH: bah it isn't russian at all :) Mar 30 09:02:28 mrpackethead: i dont have a large enough sample to tell .au and .nz apart Mar 30 09:02:31 it should be ranostaj technically Mar 30 09:02:35 mrpackethead: for me, they sound the same :) Mar 30 09:02:57 Its kind of like saying the Swiss and the Germans soudn the same Mar 30 09:02:59 :-) Mar 30 09:03:14 and to many people down here, you do Mar 30 09:03:49 KotH: my grandfather just changed the j to a y. not legally. but somehow he got a driver's license with that :P Mar 30 09:04:00 mranostay: slovakian name? Mar 30 09:04:11 i made some low cost solder stencil frames today with the laser cutter Mar 30 09:04:17 KotH: yes Mar 30 09:04:21 mrpackethead: yeah.. when speaking english, swiss germans and germans have the same accent Mar 30 09:04:45 mostly a german background though Mar 30 09:05:19 mranostay: considering that most usians think that switzerland is in skandinavia and children have to walk hours trough snowy mountains to go to school... i'd say that slovakia is close enough to russia for american purposes Mar 30 09:05:38 mylar sheets some nuts and bolts.. using a putty knife Mar 30 09:05:42 it works really well Mar 30 09:05:43 :-) Mar 30 09:06:09 * mranostay is bummed he didn't go to Prague for ELC-E Mar 30 09:06:27 yeah i know that is Czech but whatever :) Mar 30 09:06:47 lol Mar 30 09:06:58 has been the same country... before you were born ;) Mar 30 09:07:44 yes i know :P Mar 30 09:08:03 i might end up in prague this july Mar 30 09:08:07 but only since certain political and soviet influences :P Mar 30 09:08:09 maybe.. havent decided yet Mar 30 09:08:39 * KotH still doesnt really know why they split the country... but then it's not really important either Mar 30 09:08:58 * mranostay has though of changing his name legally to ranostaj to annoy HR and a dozen other entities :) Mar 30 09:09:12 and i'm pretty sure that in 30-50 years, the history books will contain any reason, but what has really happend Mar 30 09:09:23 everything will be closed tommorrow Mar 30 09:09:28 grr. Mar 30 09:09:37 mrpackethead: surprise! it's sunday! Mar 30 09:09:50 only Easter Sunday and Christmas Mar 30 09:09:59 everyother sunday, everything is open Mar 30 09:10:00 well.. Mar 30 09:10:03 its 7 day madness here Mar 30 09:10:14 in .ch (or most european countries) shops are closed on sundays Mar 30 09:10:25 yup. thats because you are smarter than us Mar 30 09:10:26 and everything was closed yesterday as well Mar 30 09:10:28 well i could sigrok code my sunday Mar 30 09:10:42 yes, closed here on Friday as well Mar 30 09:10:45 mranostay: good idea! Mar 30 09:10:56 Anzac day is half closed Mar 30 09:10:58 mranostay: can you modify the firmeware to allow continous sampling? Mar 30 09:10:58 other than that Mar 30 09:11:06 you can be open whenever you like Mar 30 09:11:10 and its just insane Mar 30 09:11:17 we could do with one day Mar 30 09:11:23 * KotH wouldnt mind being able to shop on sundays Mar 30 09:11:34 but i need a 25mm drill bit Mar 30 09:11:37 KotH: for what device? :) Mar 30 09:11:42 mranostay: ols Mar 30 09:11:48 not likely Mar 30 09:11:52 why not? Mar 30 09:11:58 dont you know verilog? Mar 30 09:12:03 it must come natural to you Mar 30 09:12:04 need to get DDR and external clock rate working Mar 30 09:12:14 no i'm not that hw Mar 30 09:12:21 of the unnamed colour? Mar 30 09:12:38 but me and panto have an evil plan with the am335x :) Mar 30 09:13:02 LA cape! :) Mar 30 09:13:04 well..he is greek, you are usian... nothing good can come out of such an aliance Mar 30 09:13:25 bah we are friends kinda :P Mar 30 09:13:47 i'm barely an american and he is barely greek :P Mar 30 09:14:41 i have an evil plan Mar 30 09:14:48 KotH: can we nab a turk too :P Mar 30 09:15:17 mrpackethead: btw bring a DMX cape with you on your little tour :P Mar 30 09:15:24 at least a PCB Mar 30 09:15:49 maybe.. Mar 30 09:15:50 :_ Mar 30 09:15:58 Sean's work just offends me :P Mar 30 09:16:12 whats the drama with cape-ids Mar 30 09:16:17 can i just make one up? Mar 30 09:16:18 cape ids? Mar 30 09:16:27 the info you store in teh EEPROM Mar 30 09:16:30 DMX-CAPE-BLAH-01 Mar 30 09:16:55 so, i can jsut make up my own.. Mar 30 09:17:04 i'm sure if you give me a $$ or $$$ i could do it easily :P Mar 30 09:17:07 that seems like a good plan for interop gramas Mar 30 09:17:21 but really the PRU code is the only hard part Mar 30 09:18:17 like my nixie cape only sets up the pinmux and PWM Mar 30 09:18:36 and the PRU code is another thing that is loaded Mar 30 09:21:46 KotH: OLS person as well? Mar 30 09:22:41 wanted to have an LA a year or two back... and it was so cheap i didnt think much about buying it :) Mar 30 09:22:57 now i'm waiting for the software to get better ;) Mar 30 09:23:22 and the guy really could have connected a faster uC and a DDR ram to the fpga Mar 30 09:23:39 would have made it at most 10usb more expensive... but also much more usable Mar 30 09:47:49 gm shoppers Mar 30 10:13:03 gm greek Mar 30 10:15:01 shouldn't that normally be 'die greek'? Mar 30 10:15:26 it's saturday and i'm in a good mood Mar 30 10:23:55 troll troll troll Mar 30 10:25:20 * KotH hands mru a nice and shiny bridge with lots of dark corners Mar 30 11:02:16 <_av500_> fun fact: I broke a toe Mar 30 11:02:44 aaah Mar 30 11:02:50 I hope it heals soon Mar 30 11:02:54 ouch Mar 30 11:03:05 <_av500_> actually it did not hurt much Mar 30 11:19:40 ouch Mar 30 11:19:45 which one did you break? Mar 30 11:19:46 and how? Mar 30 12:42:41 hello Mar 30 12:45:10 <_av500_> KotH: little one, on a door Mar 30 12:45:15 <_av500_> door won Mar 30 12:46:53 aua Mar 30 13:04:20 _av500_: just cut it off... you wont need it anyways ;) Mar 30 13:06:28 <_av500_> KotH: yeah Mar 30 13:10:05 next time our dear service-desk asks me for 'a screenshot' of the problem, when I report e.g. a command line problem and include text output in the ticket: http://www.bfst.de/funpix/screenshot.jpeg Mar 30 13:15:06 dm8tbr: any background story to that laptop? Mar 30 13:15:41 _av500_: i know how it feels... Mar 30 13:15:54 _av500_: broke my big toe once... was worse than the clavicula Mar 30 13:16:21 KotH: no, popped up on our internal social network. origin is probably imgur/reddit judging by who posted it. Mar 30 13:16:35 heh Mar 30 13:16:58 imgur and redit are prolly the most common source of such pics these days... no matter who posts it Mar 30 13:19:16 reddit and imgur deliver: http://imgur.com/rDhhgEz Mar 30 13:31:13 <_av500_> KotH: yeah, big one would have been worse Mar 30 13:35:59 * ogra_ once kicked an oven pipe in anger ... afterwards i could do a vulcan salute with my right foot ... luckily i didnt break anything though Mar 30 13:36:23 (very painful though) Mar 30 13:52:03 <_av500_> +1 Mar 30 13:57:03 hi all Mar 30 13:58:34 I've just got a beaglebone and would like to connect my laptop to the beaglebone via serial but I can't get a login Mar 30 13:59:51 I have attached the beaglebone to my laptop which is centos linux via usb and used the eject option from the dropdown menu from the icon Mar 30 14:00:13 that probably completely disabled the usb composite device Mar 30 14:00:18 FHigh: to get to the serial, eject isn't needed Mar 30 14:00:50 OK i'll try again without ejecting and see what happens Mar 30 14:00:55 FHigh: do 'dmesg | tail' and see if a serial port was created when you inserted the board Mar 30 14:01:27 gm Mar 30 14:02:34 this is what I did to find the the device: dmesg | grep FTDI | grep "now attached to" | tail -n 1 | awk '{ print $NF }' ttyUSB1 was returned, also is it OK for me to plug out the power to the board to reboot it? Mar 30 14:02:36 FHigh: can you simply try 'screen `ls /dev/{tty.usb*B,beaglebone-serial}` 115200' Mar 30 14:03:01 well, then it sounds like you have a serial port at ttyUSB1 to connect to. Mar 30 14:03:27 FHigh: ideally you'd issue a shutdown Mar 30 14:10:25 Ok, i've solved my problem, it was permissions Mar 30 14:42:28 koen: thanks for fixing all of the build issues. nightly is building again. Mar 30 14:43:56 oh, wait, maybe I missed something.... exo still isn't building. looking at it again. Mar 30 14:44:19 * jkridner can't figure out why the tarball gets build without it. Mar 30 15:12:22 Any idea's, I am trying to use NFS with my laptop as server and the beaglebone as client they are connected via usb-serial and I have setup the nfs serer on my laptop which seems to be working, when issuing the command: busybox mount -t nfs 19.20.1.1:/home/diskshare /diskshare I get the following error : mount: RPC: Remote system error - Network is unreachable, any ideas Mar 30 15:29:15 FHigh: let me guess, you have forgotten to connect the network cable? Mar 30 15:30:15 <_av500_> hmm, usbserial does not really do networking Mar 30 15:30:22 <_av500_> unless you do slip or so Mar 30 15:30:23 gm koth and av500 Mar 30 15:30:33 <_av500_> gm woglinde Mar 30 15:30:40 moin woglinde Mar 30 15:30:46 did you sleep well? Mar 30 15:30:59 composite gadget can do gether too though Mar 30 15:31:07 yeah Mar 30 15:31:28 koth no Mar 30 15:31:47 the little thought he do not to sleep anymore around 2-3 a.m. Mar 30 15:31:52 +one Mar 30 15:34:13 <_av500_> naturally Mar 30 15:34:25 <_av500_> he is preparing for DST Mar 30 15:34:54 * _av500_ marvels at this pink network cable Mar 30 15:35:25 hehe your daugther thinks its nice Mar 30 15:38:23 Ye i've connected the cable, I've found out how to load and unload the g_ether and g_mass_storage, Is it not possible to nfs over the usb? Mar 30 15:39:09 <_av500_> it sure is Mar 30 15:39:22 <_av500_> can you ping the laptop from the bone? Mar 30 15:39:26 <_av500_> and vice versa? Mar 30 15:39:32 <_av500_> did you setup IPs? Mar 30 15:40:19 <_av500_> also, 19. belongs to Ford Mar 30 15:44:47 heh Mar 30 15:45:27 _av500 - will need to reboot everything, will be back soon Mar 30 15:45:35 <_av500_> maybe some car now booted Linux..... Mar 30 15:46:16 <_av500_> hmm Mar 30 15:46:37 <_av500_> what did you connect where? Mar 30 15:46:44 <_av500_> if you connected to the debug port on the bone Mar 30 15:46:48 <_av500_> you have only serial Mar 30 15:46:48 and there he quit Mar 30 15:47:01 <_av500_> loading g_ether helps little there Mar 30 15:47:07 interner police got him Mar 30 15:47:16 <_av500_> yeah Mar 30 15:47:25 <_av500_> driven avaon in a black Ford Transit Mar 30 15:47:28 <_av500_> away Mar 30 15:48:38 typing with that broken toe? Mar 30 15:48:50 <_av500_> yeah Mar 30 15:56:40 No i can't ping my server from the bone, but I can ping my bone from the server Mar 30 15:57:30 [@_av500] No i can't ping my server from the bone, but I can ping my bone from the server Mar 30 16:00:34 firewall Mar 30 16:01:42 probably have to fiddle with iptables :/ Mar 30 16:01:52 or use firestarter Mar 30 16:14:34 hi av500 Mar 30 16:15:14 gm mranostay Mar 30 16:34:43 thurbad: just put everything on the dmz :P Mar 30 16:34:54 lol Mar 30 16:35:29 <_av500_> DMV Mar 30 16:35:44 <_av500_> mranostay: cleaned up yer diagonals? Mar 30 16:37:47 heh Mar 30 16:38:26 * mranostay pictures av500 making a diagonal DRC :) Mar 30 16:38:36 <_av500_> of course Mar 30 16:39:00 "ERROR: This angle is only 44.5 degrees needs to be 45 degrees" Mar 30 16:43:35 mranostay: there is a reason why doing "layout" is still called "artwork" Mar 30 16:43:55 mranostay, there is that DRC Mar 30 16:58:53 Still no joy guys been messing around with iptables even switched of the services added a number of ports for nfs in /etc/sysconfig/nfs : RQUOTAD_PORT=875 LOCKD_TCPPORT=32803 LOCKD_UDPPORT=32769 MOUNTD_PORT=892 STATD_PORT=662 and still no joy, any ideas Mar 30 17:00:02 use ubuntu Mar 30 17:00:09 install firestarter.. very easy to use Mar 30 17:00:54 ogra_: almost linux? :) Mar 30 17:01:07 it just works ... :) Mar 30 17:01:39 FHigh: iptables -F Mar 30 17:01:39 iptables -X Mar 30 17:01:48 iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT Mar 30 17:01:58 iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT Mar 30 17:02:10 dont forget selinux :P Mar 30 17:02:27 would you trust anything the NSA has meddled with? Mar 30 17:02:47 totally secure, until they turn their key Mar 30 17:02:53 hehe Mar 30 17:04:03 ogra_: don't tell mru that Mar 30 17:04:32 *g* Mar 30 17:41:26 <_av500_> koen: wrt serial port, we once had to write a driver that had RX and TX on different UARTs :) Mar 30 17:42:54 o_0 Mar 30 17:46:00 _av500_: were you on drugs? Mar 30 17:50:53 _av500_: HW bug or performance reasons? Mar 30 18:01:56 ds2: probably design by accident Mar 30 18:05:52 ds2: performance on a UART? :) Mar 30 18:06:19 my guess wrong pinout and too late to fix :) Mar 30 18:10:13 I could imagine reliable 1mbit+ UART being an issue Mar 30 18:11:08 I loaded the prebuild image from http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu, how can I get the kernel-headers? Mar 30 18:15:07 maybe apt-get install build-essential? Mar 30 18:15:09 opkg install? Mar 30 18:15:26 ... ubuntu Mar 30 18:16:01 I think that meta package includes headers, not sure though Mar 30 18:16:06 for generic kernels it it is possible to install the headers with apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` but it is a customize kernel Mar 30 18:16:39 headers should be roughly the same unless they're patched too Mar 30 18:17:46 if the headers are patched you need to go to however modded them Mar 30 18:17:53 * mranostay wanders outside Mar 30 18:18:07 sho, not how Mar 30 18:18:12 err who even Mar 30 18:18:14 i've heard rumours that outside exists need to investigate Mar 30 18:18:32 I've heard there's this great big burny thing out there Mar 30 18:18:58 hurts the eyes Mar 30 18:19:02 I will try to compile the kernel by myself, I also have an issue using SPI on that image Mar 30 18:20:31 mranostay: no no, you're supposed to be doing ols+sigrok things today Mar 30 18:24:34 mranostay: it would split the interrupt load Mar 30 18:25:28 and you never know what kind of processor it was Mar 30 18:39:47 <_av500_> ds2: HW did not think about a debug uart Mar 30 18:39:58 <_av500_> they forget that every year Mar 30 18:40:03 <_av500_> oh, you need that again Mar 30 18:40:09 <_av500_> inst the SW done by now... Mar 30 18:41:30 here's an odd question.. what happens if you pass a negative value into sem_timedwait()? Mar 30 18:41:47 use the source luke Mar 30 18:42:07 together we can rule the galaxy Mar 30 18:42:41 hehhhhhh Mar 30 19:31:11 <_av500_> thurbad: people come and take you away Mar 30 23:24:14 no easter trolls? Mar 30 23:27:16 no Mar 31 00:02:09 easter trills Mar 31 00:06:58 gm mrpackethead Mar 31 01:09:15 I installed the ubuntu image from http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu (uname -a > Linux arm 3.7.10-x10 #1 SMP Thu Mar 28 13:45:57 UTC 2013 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux). I enabled buddy=spidev on uEnv.txt and spidev4.0 is enabled on /dev. But https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/spi/spidev_test.c code outputs only FF when I execute it. Is it a wrong command to run? Why spidev does not work? Mar 31 02:23:43 angs, these questions are best asked in #ubuntu-arm Mar 31 02:25:14 ka6sox-away: since I use http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu, they say it is not the official ubuntu files, therefore they don't support it. Their ubuntu image is too old (3.2) Mar 31 02:26:38 angs, not many people here use ubuntu...on beagle..we use a whole range of things from Andoid to webOS Mar 31 02:27:19 so specific Ubuntu issues may or may *not* be something that can be solved by people here... Mar 31 02:29:21 jkridner told me that that rcn's image is better supported here. I am trying my chance to find someone who uses ubuntu and knows SPI Mar 31 02:29:53 angs, then you need to use the mailing list and not IRC as I rarely see RCN here. Mar 31 02:30:24 and patience also helps. Mar 31 02:31:14 right, thank you for the hints Mar 31 02:32:08 you are welcome... Mar 31 02:33:06 even though there are 140 people, bots and Trolls here doesn't mean we are all standing around waiting for questions... :) Mar 31 02:35:47 sure, I have been asking the same question for 3 days already, I hope to get an answer eventually :) Mar 31 02:38:30 at some point people just start to ignore the same plea...best to go on the ML and ask there...then be patient. Mar 31 02:39:31 this is a holiday weekend for quite a few people..and that reduces the number of people actually near their computers... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 31 02:59:59 2013