**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 31 03:00:00 2013
Mar 31 03:46:52 <ovatsug_> hello, i have a beaglebone, and i just 'installed' a new fresh angstrom destribution on my SD card, funny thing i don't have /etc/network/interfaces.
Mar 31 03:47:01 <ovatsug_> can someone tell me why? or is it in other place? i have internet connection on my beaglebone. ty
Mar 31 03:54:22 <angs> ubuntu/debian dists have /etc/network/interfaces
Mar 31 03:55:28 <angs> angstrom does not
Mar 31 04:04:51 <ovatsug_> so, what are the equivalents?
Mar 31 04:05:05 <ovatsug_> how can i config a static ip for example
Mar 31 04:05:06 <mrpackethead> ovatsug_: if you are familar with debian/ubuntu, both of those are easy enough to install on the beagle
Mar 31 04:05:36 <ovatsug_> ok, thank you, i think i will do that
Mar 31 04:06:01 <mrpackethead> hang on, i'll find a link with instructions for you
Mar 31 04:06:40 <mrpackethead> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian
Mar 31 04:06:57 <mrpackethead> Robert Nelsons build is sold
Mar 31 04:07:01 <mrpackethead> solid
Mar 31 04:07:50 <ovatsug_> thank you very much, i'm struggling with this since morning. but, just for the sake of knowledge, can you tell me what are the files in angstrom holding the same information as interfaces do in ubuntu?
Mar 31 04:08:00 <mrpackethead> i dont' actually know.
Mar 31 04:08:46 <ovatsug_> ok, you were big help anyway, thank you very much
Mar 31 04:09:02 <mrpackethead> back in the day, there was no debian build
Mar 31 04:09:48 <mrpackethead> so thats why it was an Angstrom world ( as far as i can tell )
Mar 31 04:09:54 <mrpackethead> but now there is
Mar 31 04:10:02 <mrpackethead> so, its a pretty useful option
Mar 31 04:11:23 <ovatsug_> yup, i was just confused because i saw some websites/blog's telling that, there was a /etc/network/interfaces, so, i thought i wasn't burning my SD card correctly or something.
Mar 31 04:11:44 <mrpackethead> what are you going to build with your beagle?
Mar 31 04:14:33 <ovatsug_> going to turn it into an Access Point, then develop some mini-servers, like audio (using vlc library) so i stream audio to the wire and my beaglebone receives it, and reproduces to a speakers
Mar 31 04:16:13 <ovatsug_> i will add mroe features to it, like plugging a webcam via USB, then my beaglebone transmites over the wire to a PC.
Mar 31 04:17:07 <ovatsug_> imagine, 5 beagle bones in the house, being AP's so you can access internet by them, plugging a speaker and a webcam and you suddendly have a sound system in your house, and a security system
Mar 31 04:17:27 <ovatsug_> kind of a nice hobby thing
Mar 31 04:38:05 <ka6sox> he will have a whole dogsled team!
Mar 31 04:39:22 <ds2> so there will be an xM to take verbal commands via the DSP? :D
Mar 31 04:40:00 <ka6sox> w00f!
Mar 31 04:40:08 <ds2> "Mosh"
Mar 31 04:43:32 <ka6sox> just throw them a "Bone"
Mar 31 05:35:40 <mranostay> hi all!
Mar 31 05:35:48 <mranostay> ka6sox: don't quit the day job
Mar 31 05:36:30 <ka6sox> mranostay, your point being?
Mar 31 05:36:45 <mranostay> ka6sox: the bone joke :P
Mar 31 05:38:48 <ka6sox> okay...I have to figure out why this transmission system is wrong...its blowing up insulators...
Mar 31 05:42:51 <ka6sox> okay thats why...its 10.6kV on the insulator...
Mar 31 05:59:43 <mranostay> ka6sox: what evil mad scientist project are you working on?
Mar 31 06:00:26 <ka6sox> 2mile transmission line....250kW@7.4Mhz
Mar 31 06:02:15 <ka6sox> I think the moose are trying to sharpen their antlers..
Mar 31 06:02:36 <ka6sox> (although I haven't heard of any Moose Steaks there recently)
Mar 31 06:03:09 <mranostay> ka6sox: will you be able to control our minds with it?
Mar 31 06:03:31 <ka6sox> stand in front of the antenna...I can make Mud Volcanos with it :)
Mar 31 06:05:17 <mranostay> but can do you anything evil with ti?
Mar 31 06:05:19 <mranostay> *it
Mar 31 06:06:48 <ka6sox> yes, control Russian Minds...
Mar 31 06:06:59 <ka6sox> (we are still working on the Chinese)
Mar 31 06:07:07 <mranostay> i know a few russian friends we can test it on :P
Mar 31 06:07:26 <mranostay> ka6sox: no north korean?
Mar 31 06:07:38 <ka6sox> The effective Radiated Power is about 3.4MW
Mar 31 06:08:43 <ka6sox> mranostay, they have blown up the slewing phasor...I'm trying to work out the calcs as one of the switchers fell over and took the phasing lines with it.
Mar 31 06:09:51 <mranostay> i understand almost none of that :P
Mar 31 06:12:46 <ka6sox> basically its stuck heading towards Moscow
Mar 31 06:14:16 <ka6sox> I don't want to go there...its too darned cold.
Mar 31 06:14:56 <mranostay> send me.. send me! :P
Mar 31 06:15:07 <ka6sox> Moose Fodder
Mar 31 06:15:24 <mranostay> ka6sox: in .ru?
Mar 31 06:15:31 <ka6sox> .ak
Mar 31 06:15:55 <ka6sox> sorry .ak.us
Mar 31 06:18:25 <mranostay> hmmm Alaska seems like a state you only visit once
Mar 31 06:19:36 <ka6sox> I did 5 trips there.
Mar 31 06:19:47 <ka6sox> I built this station
Mar 31 06:20:06 <ka6sox> (in 2001)
Mar 31 06:20:26 <ka6sox> the baseball game didn't start till midnight!
Mar 31 06:20:43 <ka6sox> (had to wait till the sun got below the yardarm)
Mar 31 06:21:15 <mranostay> what is baseball?
Mar 31 06:22:04 <mranostay> ka6sox: doesn't MLB have a curfew for games?
Mar 31 06:23:20 <ka6sox> they have a saying up there.... TIA
Mar 31 06:23:28 <ka6sox> This is Alaska...
Mar 31 06:23:58 <ka6sox> I wish this had waited till the END of may!
Mar 31 06:25:44 <ka6sox> dunno if "LOW" power works....
Mar 31 06:27:40 <ka6sox> everytime I think about 'rewriting' the control system for that station I keep coming back to ...it works..don't mess with it.
Mar 31 06:28:49 <ka6sox> its about 100 10-turn pots...
Mar 31 06:30:03 <dm8tbr> ka6sox: curtain with phase switching for beam direction?
Mar 31 06:31:17 <ka6sox> dm8tbr, yes
Mar 31 06:31:20 <ka6sox> 2X4
Mar 31 06:31:28 <ka6sox> TCI-611
Mar 31 06:31:38 <dm8tbr> nice stuff for contesting ;)
Mar 31 06:32:08 <ka6sox> ya, if I go I'll bring my TS-450
Mar 31 06:32:30 <ka6sox> long path to New Jersey!
Mar 31 06:32:36 <ka6sox> (Auroral)
Mar 31 06:33:23 <ka6sox> the phasor is broken and we have it bypassed and into 1ea 2 high array...but you can't put 250kW into 1 bay
Mar 31 06:33:45 <ka6sox> so tonight they are going to try "low power"
Mar 31 06:33:57 <ka6sox> I don't htink thats been done since I was there.
Mar 31 06:35:31 <ka6sox> mranostay, http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=2994
Mar 31 06:40:44 <ka6sox> I needed a day off from EDT
Mar 31 06:45:13 * dm8tbr is on UTC and UGT anyway so didn't really feel todays DST switch
Mar 31 06:45:41 <mansgrf> http://xteensx.info/german-amateur-fucking-outdoors/
Mar 31 06:53:15 <ds2> ka6sox: so YOU are responsible for the northern lights, huh?
Mar 31 06:56:54 <ka6sox> ds2, no HAARP does that.
Mar 31 07:02:22 <mranostay> nice porn spam
Mar 31 07:02:23 <mranostay> ...
Mar 31 07:02:33 <mranostay> ka6sox: i thought that mind control
Mar 31 07:04:42 <ka6sox> I found HAARP by accident and wandered in...
Mar 31 07:05:46 <ka6sox> now thats some serious power
Mar 31 07:07:56 <ka6sox> 3.6MW
Mar 31 07:08:31 <mranostay> wandered in?
Mar 31 07:08:41 <mranostay> doesn't the Air Force control that?
Mar 31 07:11:26 <ka6sox> the gate was open.
Mar 31 07:11:41 <ka6sox> go figure!
Mar 31 07:12:46 <ka6sox> I was told that there was a OTH-B radar there...
Mar 31 07:14:33 <dm8tbr> well, I guess they don't get many accidental visitors...
Mar 31 07:14:46 <ds2> ka6sox: but they use proper insulators unlike you ;)
Mar 31 07:17:31 <ka6sox> ds2, they failed to tell me the phasor fell over..
Mar 31 07:19:14 <ka6sox> dm8tbr, trying to find your link again...that shows a picture of something similar.
Mar 31 07:20:08 <dm8tbr> yeah, they had phasing too
Mar 31 07:20:13 <dm8tbr> let me look it up real quick
Mar 31 07:20:20 <ka6sox> your album link?
Mar 31 07:20:33 <dm8tbr> http://www.ruecker.fi/~dm8tbr/ham/dw/pict2262.jpg
Mar 31 07:21:35 <dm8tbr> what I must say I found beautiful was their way to go from coax to symmetric line for QRO
Mar 31 07:21:47 <dm8tbr> http://www.ruecker.fi/~dm8tbr/ham/dw/pict2260.jpg
Mar 31 07:21:59 <dm8tbr> logarithmic aperiodic line
Mar 31 07:22:04 <ka6sox> http://www.ruecker.fi/~dm8tbr/ham/dw/pict2262.jpg
Mar 31 07:22:11 <ka6sox> ya thats the one
Mar 31 07:22:31 <ka6sox> thats a "Balun"
Mar 31 07:22:48 <dm8tbr> yes, just not what the ordinary 'ham' knows as a balum
Mar 31 07:23:01 <dm8tbr> "where's the ferrite then, duuuuh?!"
Mar 31 07:23:15 <_av500_> Baloo?
Mar 31 07:23:21 <dm8tbr> wazoo?
Mar 31 07:24:35 <ka6sox> uh...
Mar 31 07:24:42 <ka6sox> at those power levels....
Mar 31 07:24:50 <dm8tbr> exactly
Mar 31 07:25:02 <ka6sox> we would call this a "trombone" style balun
Mar 31 07:25:33 <ds2> is that a tuned cavity style one?
Mar 31 07:27:20 <dm8tbr> it covers all of HF, so not sure if it's really 'tuned'
Mar 31 07:27:22 <ka6sox> thankfully no...this is a broadband section
Mar 31 07:27:47 <ka6sox> iirc the impedence of the ladder it 450ohms
Mar 31 07:27:57 <ka6sox> (we use a 2 wire not a 4 wire system)
Mar 31 07:28:42 <dm8tbr> do you also have those neat little bulbs hanging from the transmission lines and the antenna?
Mar 31 07:29:19 <ka6sox> yes
Mar 31 07:29:42 <ka6sox> and a GIANT Moose fence
Mar 31 07:29:47 * mranostay loves the trolling of his board designs :)
Mar 31 07:31:16 <ka6sox> well at least the Engineer's Hot Tub should be warm tonight.
Mar 31 07:32:41 <ka6sox> Yay!! 100kW fwd, 1.6kW reflected..not bad
Mar 31 07:32:46 <ka6sox> I can go to bed now.
Mar 31 07:32:52 <ka6sox> nite all
Mar 31 07:36:26 <mrpackethead> wat are we winding up today
Mar 31 07:37:25 <mranostay> mrpackethead: building a troll cape
Mar 31 07:37:44 <mrpackethead> troll-trap-cape
Mar 31 07:37:50 <mrpackethead> taht would sell
Mar 31 07:38:39 <ds2> just 1.6kW reflected?
Mar 31 07:38:50 <mrpackethead> and a we-might-have-a-beagle-board-that-is-compatible-cape
Mar 31 07:38:57 <ds2> should get a directional coupler and suck off that 1.6kW
Mar 31 07:39:29 <mrpackethead> whos got a 100kW tx
Mar 31 07:39:31 <mranostay> mrpackethead: JTAG + LA + pulse generator cape
Mar 31 07:40:00 <mrpackethead> thats not the average HAM set
Mar 31 07:40:31 <mrpackethead> im needing to buy a milling machine
Mar 31 07:41:04 <dm8tbr> ds2: a circulator rated for 250kW could be sizeable and expensive :)
Mar 31 07:55:46 <ds2> dm8tbr: given the local utility rates, that might still be cheaper
Mar 31 07:56:23 <ds2> mrpackethead: getting a nice HAAS VF-2?
Mar 31 07:56:45 <mrpackethead> i know nothing about milling machiens
Mar 31 07:56:46 <mrpackethead> :_)_
Mar 31 07:56:55 <dm8tbr> heh, if you live close enough to the side you can just put up a coil and leech off the near-field
Mar 31 07:57:28 <dm8tbr> in germany that's a punishable crime though. "energy theft"
Mar 31 08:04:31 <mranostay> heh
Mar 31 08:16:34 <ds2> but reflected energy is wasted energy so....
Mar 31 08:59:16 <mrpackethead> where does the 1.6kW end up?
Mar 31 08:59:29 <mrpackethead> somethign getting warm?
Mar 31 09:02:31 <mranostay> mrpackethead: he is giving russians cancer
Mar 31 09:03:08 <mrpackethead> they are immune, its a side effect of drinking vodka
Mar 31 09:05:26 <mranostay> heh
Mar 31 09:20:06 <dm8tbr> mranostay: likely heat in the valves
Mar 31 09:20:15 <dm8tbr> usually water cooled
Mar 31 09:21:07 <dm8tbr> mrpackethead: ^^^^
Mar 31 09:21:32 <mrpackethead> ahh reflected back into the transmitter
Mar 31 09:21:45 <mrpackethead> i guess you dont' wnat too much of that happening!
Mar 31 09:21:47 <dm8tbr> mrpackethead: http://www.ruecker.fi/~dm8tbr/ham/dw/DCP_4576.JPG - that's about the size of those I'd expect. For comparison, that small speck next to it is something the size of a 4CX100
Mar 31 09:22:17 <dm8tbr> yes, usually there is a protection circuit that will shutter your output power if the VSWR is bad
Mar 31 09:22:26 <mrpackethead> you still use valves?
Mar 31 09:23:14 <dm8tbr> yes, for high power HF/LF applications they are actually easier than semiconductors
Mar 31 09:24:00 <dm8tbr> using FETs you'd need racks full of modules and combiners
Mar 31 09:25:35 <dm8tbr> also if you over-spec the valve it will virtually 'never' break
Mar 31 09:26:17 <mrpackethead> yeah, i guess, 100kW is quite big for a semiconductor
Mar 31 09:26:29 <mrpackethead> though, why so much power?
Mar 31 09:26:44 <dm8tbr> the site we visited back then used 3dB over-speced ones and loved it. 8x200kW = 8x100kW and 2x400kW = 2x200kW
Mar 31 09:27:56 <dm8tbr> are you familiar with the Shannon-Hartley theorem?
Mar 31 09:28:07 <mrpackethead> no.
Mar 31 09:28:23 <dm8tbr> it defines channel capacity based on variables
Mar 31 09:29:11 <dm8tbr> and you can increase your channel capacity by among other things power
Mar 31 09:30:40 <dm8tbr> with the power rating mentioned, you can easily cover a whole continent with good quality radio signal
Mar 31 09:31:19 <dm8tbr> and the continent doesn't need to be right next to the transmitter either
Mar 31 09:32:34 <Aditya> hello
Mar 31 09:33:11 <Aditya> i am doing a project on beagleboard xm to send and receive data from BB and smartphone using Bluetooth
Mar 31 09:33:16 <Aditya> i need you r help
Mar 31 09:33:37 <Aditya> can any one provide me simple C programs to start with this..
Mar 31 09:34:02 <mrpackethead> What does your assignment suggest
Mar 31 09:34:11 <dm8tbr> printf('hello world')
Mar 31 09:34:19 <mrpackethead> and when do you have to hand in your homework
Mar 31 09:34:40 <_av500_> and what does your supervisor say, other than "go askin #beagle"
Mar 31 09:34:40 <Aditya> I need some sample C programs to send and receive data over BT
Mar 31 09:34:47 <_av500_> tried google?
Mar 31 09:34:52 <Aditya> i am presently using Blez
Mar 31 09:35:02 <dm8tbr> you meant bluez
Mar 31 09:35:13 <Aditya> i am new to this embedded field so need help to start with
Mar 31 09:35:19 <Aditya> yup bluez..
Mar 31 09:35:27 <dm8tbr> I'd recommend to start on your desktop/laptop
Mar 31 09:35:28 <Aditya> i am trying to install Affix kernel
Mar 31 09:35:37 <dm8tbr> if it doesn't have bt, just add a dongle
Mar 31 09:35:38 <Aditya> but not working
Mar 31 09:35:49 <mrpackethead> Aditya: are familar with Linux?
Mar 31 09:36:00 <dm8tbr> once you have it working on your desktop linux, you can move it to your BBxm
Mar 31 09:36:11 <Aditya> http://people.csail.mit.edu/albert/bluez-intro/c404.html
Mar 31 09:36:18 <Aditya> ya i am familiar with linux
Mar 31 09:36:21 <Aditya> i refered this site
Mar 31 09:36:37 <Aditya> bb has dongle and all..
Mar 31 09:36:40 <mrpackethead> so, you are a student/
Mar 31 09:36:42 <mrpackethead> ?
Mar 31 09:36:53 <Aditya> ya..i am student of computers..
Mar 31 09:37:00 <Aditya> i am new to embedded
Mar 31 09:37:10 <mrpackethead> and wy do you think we want to do your homework for you
Mar 31 09:37:39 <Aditya> its not homework its out of my interest i am trying to learn. if you can help me out i will be greateful
Mar 31 09:38:05 <mrpackethead> theres only one thing that trolls like eating more than hobbits, its assignments.. the Cheif troll is here.
Mar 31 09:38:05 <Aditya> atlaeast as a first step i would like to transfer the data between my laptop and phone..
Mar 31 09:38:09 <Aditya> i am using ubuntu'
Mar 31 09:39:05 <Aditya> can u please help me out in this regard..
Mar 31 09:40:01 <Aditya> mrpackethead can you help me learn it??
Mar 31 09:40:27 <Aditya>  mr dm8tbr can you please elaborate it
Mar 31 09:40:48 <mrpackethead> Aditya: exact steps?
Mar 31 09:41:22 * dm8tbr puts an elmer fudd mask on: "It's TROLL SEASON!"
Mar 31 09:41:42 <mrpackethead> Aditya: did you bring Troll food?
Mar 31 09:42:03 <Aditya> ya..atleast i need sample programs to start with it..
Mar 31 09:42:24 <mrpackethead> what was wrong with the ones in the page that you refered to
Mar 31 09:42:41 <Aditya> i am unabel to install affix kernel
Mar 31 09:42:50 <Aditya> its aksing me to give kernel source flder
Mar 31 09:43:37 <dm8tbr> what's an affix kernel?
Mar 31 09:43:50 <Aditya> i gave it as /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-35-generic-pae
Mar 31 09:43:55 <Aditya> but compilation failed..
Mar 31 09:44:36 <Aditya> dm8tbr:http://affix.sourceforge.net/documentation.shtml
Mar 31 09:44:53 <dm8tbr> why do you need to use that?
Mar 31 09:45:26 <Aditya> its given to write and execute C Program to transfer data over BT
Mar 31 09:47:08 <Aditya> u guys ae experienced..
Mar 31 09:47:15 <Aditya> can u please help me out
Mar 31 09:56:00 <Aditya> hey guys
Mar 31 09:56:17 <Aditya> anything you can help me out
Mar 31 15:49:58 <mranostay> mourning
Mar 31 15:50:18 <woglinde> trool
Mar 31 16:15:06 <mranostay> troll!
Mar 31 16:16:17 <ka6sox-away> well..that blew up
Mar 31 16:37:38 <mru> troll troll troll
Mar 31 16:38:24 <woglinde> easter troll now
Mar 31 16:39:24 <ka6sox-away> wet soggy trolls
Mar 31 16:42:54 <mranostay> ka6sox-away: transmitter?
Mar 31 18:14:11 * mranostay does the fun process of finding 30 pru lines on the mux
Mar 31 18:52:56 <ka6sox-away> mranostay, nope...not enough
Mar 31 18:58:25 <mranostay> woot a free buffer line for a pop delay  test
Mar 31 20:07:18 <mrpackethead> i saw some Angstrom Bashing in teh mailing list today
Mar 31 20:08:43 <woglinde> haha
Mar 31 20:09:40 <thurbad> .. why
Mar 31 20:09:57 <thurbad> it's not like they paid for it
Mar 31 20:10:20 <mrpackethead> ;ikely because tye did'nt understnad it
Mar 31 20:10:29 <mrpackethead> opps, thats some bad typing
Mar 31 20:10:39 <mrpackethead> likely because they didn't understand it.
Mar 31 20:11:05 <mrpackethead> i say " if it works for you, thats cool "
Mar 31 20:12:31 <mranostay> and new zealand logs on
Mar 31 20:12:51 <mrpackethead> morning captain troll
Mar 31 20:13:09 <mranostay> that is mru
Mar 31 20:13:23 <mranostay> i am the commanding officer until he or av500 logs on
Mar 31 20:13:31 <woglinde> lol
Mar 31 20:13:31 <mrpackethead> i have a problem now.. Customer is about to order 260 of those DMX capes
Mar 31 20:13:38 <mrpackethead> and they are not finished
Mar 31 20:13:39 <mrpackethead> :-)
Mar 31 20:13:42 <woglinde> hm
Mar 31 20:13:51 <mranostay> heh
Mar 31 20:13:54 <mrpackethead> thats what you get for selling vaporware
Mar 31 20:13:55 <mranostay> no software? :)
Mar 31 20:13:55 <mrpackethead> :-)
Mar 31 20:13:57 <woglinde> what does the capes do?
Mar 31 20:14:08 <mrpackethead> its not as bad as it seems
Mar 31 20:14:14 <mranostay> or just no hardware?
Mar 31 20:14:20 <mrpackethead> hardware looks fine
Mar 31 20:14:47 <mranostay> 260 seems like a nice order
Mar 31 20:14:50 <mrpackethead> all the ports electrically behavior
Mar 31 20:15:03 <mrpackethead> i have a coupel of large cusomters, who when they buy stuff
Mar 31 20:15:08 <mrpackethead> they buy lots of stuff
Mar 31 20:16:40 <mranostay> hmm well some of us have and are doing PRU projects :)
Mar 31 20:16:51 <mrpackethead> yup.
Mar 31 20:17:08 <mrpackethead> we'll get there
Mar 31 20:17:08 <mrpackethead> :0)
Mar 31 20:17:48 <mranostay> this troll cape is going to rock
Mar 31 20:18:10 <mrpackethead> do you have the exact-steps patch going yet mranostay
Mar 31 20:18:28 <mranostay> that is a patchset? :)
Mar 31 20:19:05 <mranostay> i forgot crystals are rather expensive
Mar 31 20:19:26 <mrpackethead> jelly crystals are about $0.80/packet
Mar 31 20:19:31 <mrpackethead> have you tryed those
Mar 31 20:20:39 * mranostay thinks the unbuffered part of the troll cape should be a clear void warranty 
Mar 31 20:21:31 <mranostay> almost no pop delay but if you pipe 10 volts down it well you are screwed :)
Mar 31 21:15:24 <WonderClown> I'm trying to get Debian or Ubuntu running on my Beaglebone and I'm at my wit's end.
Mar 31 21:15:36 <WonderClown> Does anybody have an sdcard image they can share with me?
Mar 31 21:16:12 <WonderClown> I've tried everything mentioned at http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian
Mar 31 21:16:29 <WonderClown> Always hangs when starting the init process.
Mar 31 21:21:31 <mrpackethead> WonderClown: have you got the USB ethernet widget plugged into something
Mar 31 21:21:52 <mrpackethead> I've seen this problem, when the USB is not connected
Mar 31 21:21:54 <mrpackethead> it just sits thre
Mar 31 21:22:02 <WonderClown> mrpackethead: I have the serial console connected.
Mar 31 21:22:20 <WonderClown> mrpackethead: But I didn't configure the USB gadget thingy on the host.
Mar 31 21:22:25 <mrpackethead> ok..
Mar 31 21:22:30 <mrpackethead> thats likely your problme
Mar 31 21:22:35 <WonderClown> mrpackethead: I've tried with and without the USB attached.
Mar 31 21:23:00 <mrpackethead> USB gagdet, or just the USB serial?
Mar 31 21:23:11 <WonderClown> They're the same cable, aren't they?
Mar 31 21:23:29 <mrpackethead> yes, same cable
Mar 31 21:23:33 <mrpackethead> but two devices
Mar 31 21:23:43 <WonderClown> I mean I've tried it powered by a 5V adaptor and nothing on the USB, but an Ethernet connection.
Mar 31 21:23:52 <WonderClown> And I wait for the ssh server to come up, and it never does.
Mar 31 21:24:09 <WonderClown> I suppose that might just be an ssh problem.  I'll try making the USB networking work.
Mar 31 21:24:17 <mrpackethead> yes, you need to.
Mar 31 21:24:34 <mrpackethead> the USB network port seems to need to be up for the first boot
Mar 31 21:24:38 <mrpackethead> once you get past that
Mar 31 21:24:41 <mrpackethead> and configure thigns
Mar 31 21:24:45 <mrpackethead> it seems to be fine.
Mar 31 21:24:57 <WonderClown> Oh, for the first boot only.
Mar 31 21:24:57 <mrpackethead> I need to talk to Robert Nelson about this.
Mar 31 21:25:37 <WonderClown> I've been working on this for the past 48 hours.  If it's this simple I am going to need counseling.
Mar 31 21:31:00 <Archimedes> Hey, everyone.
Mar 31 21:32:11 <Archimedes> I'm having trouble with the real time clock battery on my beagleboard xM.  Is there a known issue with it?  Also, is it possible to get the board to recharge this battery?
Mar 31 21:34:02 <thurbad> what rtc battery?
Mar 31 21:34:55 <mru> I guess you could call that a known issue
Mar 31 21:35:17 <Archimedes> What do you mean, mru?
Mar 31 21:35:25 <thurbad> afaik it doesn't even have pins fora battery
Mar 31 21:37:58 <mru> otoh it's always fully charged, in a sense
Mar 31 21:40:02 <Archimedes> thurbad - I'm talking about a 3V battery that I soldered into the board, while also removing R65.  This option is in the documentation.
Mar 31 21:40:43 <Archimedes> mru - so I'm afraid I'm confused.  Is the not keeping time what you are calling the "known issue"?
Mar 31 21:41:17 <thurbad> I've never seen it keep tme whenturned off, didn't even realize that was a battery there
Mar 31 21:42:18 <Archimedes> The batteries I have used have discharged over time, so I don't know what you would mean by "always fully charged", either.
Mar 31 21:42:53 <mru> the non-existent battery is always 'full'
Mar 31 21:43:16 <mru> you didn't mention you'd added one
Mar 31 21:44:00 <Archimedes> Now that I have . . . do you have any insights into this, sir?
Mar 31 21:46:24 <WonderClown> mrpackethead: That worked.  Holy crap.
Mar 31 21:46:30 <WonderClown> Oh, he left.
Mar 31 21:47:58 <woglinde> WonderClown he will come back
Mar 31 21:51:03 <WonderClown> Is there anything to be done about microsd access being really slow?  Faster card, or maybe align the filesystem blocks?
Mar 31 21:51:17 <woglinde> faster card
Mar 31 21:57:51 <WonderClown> So the system seems to hang every time I attach the USB debug cable until I do "ifconfig usb0 up" on the host.
Mar 31 21:58:03 <WonderClown> That's annoying, but I guess I can live with it.
Mar 31 23:37:19 <WonderClown> mrpackethead: Your suggestion worked.  Thanks very much.
Mar 31 23:39:37 <mrpackethead> cool
Mar 31 23:39:39 <mrpackethead> :-)
Mar 31 23:40:02 <mrpackethead> I need to figure out why its doing that though
Mar 31 23:50:21 <mrpackethead> WonderClown: are you rnortman?
Mar 31 23:50:58 <WonderClown> I am.
Mar 31 23:51:03 <mrpackethead> i jsut saw your message
Mar 31 23:51:06 <WonderClown> I guess you saw the desperate email post too.
Mar 31 23:51:09 <WonderClown> I'm about to follow up.
Mar 31 23:51:32 <WonderClown> Waiting to finish the squeeze netinst first so I can report on that also.
Mar 31 23:52:24 <mrpackethead> i use squeeze
Mar 31 23:53:22 <WonderClown> I probably will too, if I can get my usb wifi dongle to work in it.
Mar 31 23:53:34 <WonderClown> But I'm doubtful, as it's a recent atheros chipset.
Mar 31 23:54:20 <WonderClown> Yup, the squeeze netinst completed successfully as well.
Mar 31 23:54:41 <WonderClown> But it hangs when you plug in the USB cable every time until you "ifconfig usb0 up" on the host.
Mar 31 23:55:04 <WonderClown> If the USB cable isn't plugged in at all it seems to boot.
Mar 31 23:55:37 <mrpackethead> mmm.
Mar 31 23:56:06 <mrpackethead> add that bit of info to the reply in the list
Apr 01 01:52:09 <WonderClown> Sweet... Wheezy netinst also works, and my wifi dongle works out of the box on it.
Apr 01 01:52:26 <WonderClown> Did not work out of the box on squeeze, and I'm just not going to bother trying to wrestle with it.
Apr 01 01:52:42 <WonderClown> Thanks for all the help.  I'm sure I'll be back...
Apr 01 01:55:31 <mrpackethead> hey, we have a happy custoer.. i'm glad to have been able to help
Apr 01 02:19:19 <mranostay> ka6sox-away: boo :)
Apr 01 02:45:15 <mranostay> hi Crofton|work
Apr 01 02:46:14 * mranostay notes finding a SP3T switch is hard to find
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